History Headscratchers / TheRock

24th Feb '16 8:31:52 AM Kooshmeister
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* Mason was able to get through the MalevolentArchitecture of the random spinning gear and timed flame room (why exactly did Alcatraz need that?) because he had memorized the timing during his escape. After getting through himself, he was able to open the door from the other side to let the team through. So, prisons routinely have doors that can only be opened from the inside? And Mason memorized the pattern necessary to break ''into'' Alcatraz because...?

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* Mason was able to get through the MalevolentArchitecture of the random spinning gear and timed flame room (why exactly did Alcatraz need that?) because he had memorized the timing during his escape. After getting through himself, he was able to open the door from the other side to let the team through. So, prisons routinely have doors that can only be opened from the inside? And Mason memorized the pattern necessary to break ''into'' Alcatraz because...??
** He memorized it to break ''out''. He was taking Goodspeed and the SEAL team in through the way he'd escaped originally.
14th Jan '16 8:48:00 PM laserviking42
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** Special forces are not super soldiers, they are simply very well trained to set up a very specific set of circumstances and use them to their advantage. When caught by surprise in the open like that, all that special training is rendered worthless. For a real world equivalent, look up Operation Red Wings that ended with 19 Navy Seals dead by Taliban militia.
3rd Dec '15 8:19:17 PM Folamh3
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*** In the teddy bear scene, I thought the issue was that because the gas was corrosive and eating through Goodspeed's suit, his colleagues were concerned that he'd soon be affected by the gas, hence why they were instructing him to administer the atropine.
13th Sep '15 8:59:20 PM RyanW
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** At least one marine was shown to be carried off by his comrades after the fight, but it only appears in special wide-screen editions in the corner of the screen.

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** At least one marine was shown to be carried off by his comrades after the fight, but it only appears in special wide-screen editions in the corner of the screen.screen.

* Mason was able to get through the MalevolentArchitecture of the random spinning gear and timed flame room (why exactly did Alcatraz need that?) because he had memorized the timing during his escape. After getting through himself, he was able to open the door from the other side to let the team through. So, prisons routinely have doors that can only be opened from the inside? And Mason memorized the pattern necessary to break ''into'' Alcatraz because...?
13th Feb '15 9:31:19 PM lorgskyegon
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** Because the level of protection you would need to guard against VX would be impossible for the team to carry onto the island. You would basically need the full suit Goodspeed wore in the bomb room and those require a separate air supply.



*** Yes he's British. He was born in Glasgow. i.e) Scotland i.e)He really wouldn't like to be called English.

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*** Yes he's British. He was born in Glasgow. i.e) Scotland i.e)He Glasgow, Scotland. He really wouldn't like to be called English.English. Especially for a character played by Scottish separatist Sean Connery.
8th Feb '15 9:38:42 AM hive17
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*** That is actually the job of Army units known as Technical Escort, who, if this movie made any sense, would on-hand to make entry and take care of the rockets. The rockets would have been M55s and look nothing like the set-up in the movie.


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** Pyridostigmine is used as a pre-treatment to most nerve agents.


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* If the entire premise of the movie is to defeat chemical weapons, why was not a single person (depot gaurds at the beginning, the bad guys, the Navy SEALS, or the supposed chemical "super freak") wearing chemical-protective garments or a frigging protective mask (gas mask) at their side? That's Day 3 basic training stuff.
6th Feb '15 2:40:17 AM DoctorNemesis
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*** To be fair, he clearly has bigger fish to fry than correcting a corpse on his nationality of origin at that particular moment.
21st Dec '14 11:21:47 AM Damar
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** Also the [=SEALs=] were surrounded. Even if one of the Marines missed a shot on an intended target, it'd be likely to hit the guy standing behind him. The set up was an almost perfect crossfire.

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** Also the [=SEALs=] were surrounded. Even if one of the Marines missed a shot on an intended target, it'd be likely to hit the guy standing behind him. The set up was an almost perfect crossfire.crossfire.
** At least one marine was shown to be carried off by his comrades after the fight, but it only appears in special wide-screen editions in the corner of the screen.
29th Nov '14 6:53:32 PM TangoKitty
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** The marines are behind hard cover and the [=SEALs=] are caught entirely out in the open. Also, the lighting is extremely poor -- the marines are backlit so the [=SEALs=] can only see vague silouhettes, but the marines can clearly see the [=SEALs=]. Its still a stretch that the [=SEALs=] didn't hit even ''one'' enemy before dying, but not as large a stretch as it would have been under better conditions.

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** The marines are behind hard cover and the [=SEALs=] are caught entirely out in the open. Also, the lighting is extremely poor -- the marines are backlit so the [=SEALs=] can only see vague silouhettes, but the marines can clearly see the [=SEALs=]. Its still a stretch that the [=SEALs=] didn't hit even ''one'' enemy before dying, but not as large a stretch as it would have been under better conditions.conditions.
** Also the [=SEALs=] were surrounded. Even if one of the Marines missed a shot on an intended target, it'd be likely to hit the guy standing behind him. The set up was an almost perfect crossfire.
29th Nov '14 6:48:46 PM TangoKitty
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*** And in this case, it was probably a good thing he was taken along. The commander and everyone else probably knew that crash course training on how to handle a bomb doesn't actually work out too well.
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