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Headscratchers: The Rock
  • At no point in the operation is Agent Goodspeed's knowledge of chemical agents ever actually relevant. He disables the rockets by removing the guidance chips which completely ignores the payload and would instead seem to suggest an expert in ordnance would be required. At no point does he ever actually counteract the VX. In fact, his solution entirely amounts to "it'll fall in the Bay" with no concern for the potential effects of all that deadly neurotoxin now in coastal waters.
    • Yeah, and? A significant part of being trained to deal with chemical weaponry is disarming chemical weaponry dispersal. Goodspeed is trained in ordnance disposal, and specializes in disabling chemical ordnance disposal. He did precisely what he was supposed to do when he extracted the warheads and disarmed them of their guidance chips. And salt water is actually quite effective at neutralizing chemical agents.
    • He is an expert in ordinance, remember him defusing the bomb in the teddy bear? And he wasn't even supposed to go. His original plan was to train the Navy Seals, but the commander insisted on bringing him.
    • Also, did you miss the part where Goodspeed had to take the VX capsules out of the rockets to get at the chips? Your bog-standard bomb squad tech wouldn't have the faintest idea how to handle that crap, or what to do if one got squished.

  • I have no idea how that antidote to VX Goodspeed uses to inject himself with works; so this may be a totally ridiculous question... why didn't they just inject themselves with it before the mission began?
    • It apparently only acts over a short-term period.
    • The drug was Atropine and it is some seriously strong shit. From what I understand, a dose like they would take will incapacitate you if not kill you outright, so it's only beneficial when you are actually under the effects of the equally nasty gas.
    • It's an antidote, not a vaccine. It counteracts the effects of the bioweapon once it's hit you, it doesn't necessarily offer protection if you administer it beforehand.

  • If Hummel was bluffing the entire time...than why did he not remove the guidance chips himself or tell his men this, or even launch one if he was going to let it be destroyed anyway?
    • Because that might just cause bigger problems for Hummel than he wanted. If Hummel was bluffing, then he needs the guidance chips to make sure the missiles land away from civilian territory. IIRC Goodspeed was describing the situation when a marine had a gun to his back. If Hummel removed the guidance chips, he'd have no control over the missiles' course and they could still land in San Francisco or any other towns.
    • The Marines from the second group, who were all psychopaths who were willing to fire gas at civilian targets, would have noticed if there weren't any guidance chips, and then they would have started asking questions.
    • Maybe he wasn't bluffing, but the SEAL team massacre and all the heinous things he was doing gave him a My God, What Have I Done? moment.
      • He almost certainly was bluffing, but like it's said above, he needed the guidance chips to take the bluff as absolutely far as it could go. Note that the missile flies over heavily populated areas before it diverts back to the ocean... that's going to make the news, people are going to start asking questions about what happened. If Hummel could manage to get his story out after he escaped (he still wanted to do that), it would serve to make at least some people take notice. That was really what he wanted all along... it wouldn't have been as direct or effective as actually making the government pay out the money, but he still would have accomplished at least one goal.
  • That one marine calls Sean Connery an English prick. Sean Connery? Why was there not the post modern one-liner. 'I'm Scottish, you fucking moron'?
    • Isn't this after Mason identifies him as former RAF and British Intelligence?
      • Yes he's British. He was born in Glasgow. i.e) Scotland i.e)He really wouldn't like to be called English.

  • It's been a while, but the timeline of Mason's imprisonment doesn't quite add up. He was captured and imprisoned for acquiring information on the Kennedy assassination, which occurred in November of 1963. Alcatraz was shut down in March of 1963.
    • No, he was captured and imprisoned for acquiring information on numerous national secrets. The plot to assassinate Kennedy (He was killed in November 1963, doesn't mean they didn't start planning it earlier) is just one of them.
    • You're assuming it was one continuous set of imprisonment. Remember, Mason kept breaking out, including from Alcatraz... which was sort of the whole point of his involvement. If he'd just been transferred from Alcatraz to some other prison when Alcatraz shut down, they wouldn't really need him for anything.

  • I am almost completely ignorant about military tactics, but the shower shootout has puzzled me since I saw the film first time. The entire SEAL team goes down apparently without eliminating a single enemy, despite they were more-or-less equal in numbers and training and the marines were still visible targets. I know it, the point is that the marines were on elevated positions, but that should not completely nullify the SEAL's capacity as if they were A-Team firing novices.
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