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* What if several people watch the video at the same time and are in the same room when [[IncrediblyLamePun they hit the deadline]]? Does Sadako/Samara kill them sequentially or duplicate herself so she can kill them simultaneously? Does the number of TV sets in the room have any effect (e.g. two people who will die are in the room which has two televisions, will she come out of both)? What if they are in different places when their time comes? Can Sadako/Samara kill them all at the same time? If she can appear in multiple places simultaneously, what if one of her clones gets "killed"? Does it affect the rest?

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* What if several people watch the video at the same time and are in the same room when [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} they hit the deadline]]? Does Sadako/Samara kill them sequentially or duplicate herself so she can kill them simultaneously? Does the number of TV sets in the room have any effect (e.g. two people who will die are in the room which has two televisions, will she come out of both)? What if they are in different places when their time comes? Can Sadako/Samara kill them all at the same time? If she can appear in multiple places simultaneously, what if one of her clones gets "killed"? Does it affect the rest?
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*** People don't seem to be affected unless they actually ''see'' the tape. After all, in the openning sequence of ''The Ring 2'', a girl sits right in front of the tv while the video is playing. This is well within hearing range (and-ahem-grabbing range), but her eyes (and ''only'' her eyes) are closed. She remains physically unnaffected, even though Samara apparently crawled right out of the tv and attacked the boy she was with (who had watched the film).

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*** People don't seem to be affected unless they actually ''see'' the tape. After all, in the openning opening sequence of ''The Ring 2'', a girl sits right in front of the tv TV while the video is playing. This is well within hearing range (and-ahem-grabbing range), but her eyes (and ''only'' her eyes) are closed. She remains physically unnaffected, even though Samara apparently crawled right out of the tv and attacked the boy she was with (who had watched the film).
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** This ties in to her psychic abilities in life being nensha. She can only affect things where she is close to. Hence why the tape and the phone in that cabin. What's rather confusing between the books and films is that in the books Koji Suzuki clearly intended this is to be more sci-fi based than ghost based. As such in Ring and Spiral the only real things being done from the beyond the grave are from people who were psychic in life. Are they a physical ghost somewhere? Are they just like a consciousness waiting for their resurrection or is this what their physic abilities set in motion before they died? The third book took the series into a retcon to find a way to continue the story but from there on things were much harder scifi that we never really understand how Suzuki's world intended this. In the films its much more straight forward Sadako/Samara is clearly a ghost that comes to do her own killing.
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** This actually happens in the ''Rasen'' TV series, and it works! Then again, the character who does it is not actually under Sadako's curse, and Sadako's powers are widely inconsistent in that series.


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*** The second novel ''Spiral'' elaborates further and explains that this actually made the curse even worse. By removing the escape clause for the victims from the tape, the curse no longer had a means to spread itself causing it to mutate, taking on a new and even deadlier form.


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** In the novel and 1998 film, the phone call only happens in the cabin where Asakawa first watches the tape, and it doesn't actually say anything (in the novel, no sound is heard, but Asakawa ''feels'' a malevolent presence on the other end of the line. In the film, an eerie metallic scraping sound is heard). The fact that the phone call only happens in one location even becomes a vital clue to figuring out where Sadako's remains are. So the phone call is not important for the curse to happen.
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** Note that Book Sadako is a bit more explicit that simply copying the tape isn't actually good enough to get you a pass. You have to actively help her spread the curse or vow not to interfere in her goals. Which ironically despite her being cruel enough to kill the infant, from as much as was written Sadako does appear to keep her word if she does grant you a pass.


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** This is one thing that is lost from the books. As while Sadako still is an impressive telepath she was still rather limited in range. The idea that her curse is an actual telepathic virus most certainly gives her far more range to kill then she ever had before she created it. I'd imagine she can telepathically shut as many people down as she wants with the ring virus no matter where her spirit or reincarnated body are. Movie versions usually just have her ghost show up to kill you, which makes this more an AdaptationInducedPlothole unless you just assume she goes from one to the other.
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** She's probably asking why Mai and Koichi were allowed to escape the well whilst she was down there for thirty years and no one came to save her.
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*** In that case [[{{Kaiju}} a twelve-story-tall]] StringyHairedGhostGirl climbs out and gets you.
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* They really didn't think out the whole, "Watch the tape, and a week later a crazy bitch comes out of your TV and kills you" thing, did they? I mean, what if, on the seventh day, you're camping or something, nowhere near a TV? Or, what if you had watched the tape at a friend's house, and didn't actually own a television? Yes, I know how absurd that would be, but these are hypothetical questions, OK? With hypothetical questions, I could suggest any situation, such as, if a dog watches the tape, does it turn into a gorilla? So, anyway, [[LeftFielder how about those Red Sox? They sure a baseball team, aren't they?]]

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* They really didn't think out the whole, "Watch the tape, and a week later a crazy bitch comes out of your TV and kills you" thing, did they? I mean, what if, on the seventh day, you're camping or something, nowhere near a TV? Or, what if you had watched the tape at a friend's house, and didn't actually own a television? Yes, I know how absurd that would be, but these are hypothetical questions, OK? With hypothetical questions, I could suggest any situation, such as, if a dog watches the tape, does it turn into a gorilla? So, anyway, [[LeftFielder [[WeirdAside how about those Red Sox? They sure a baseball team, aren't they?]]
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*** This bugs ''me''; how the hell does she do it? Where the heck does her power come from? Is she the only eldritch thing in the world, and if not, why is there no defense against her? What's with the tendency of horror movies in general to make their villain a GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere?

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*** This bugs ''me''; how the hell does she do it? Where the heck does her power come from? Is she the only eldritch thing in the world, and if not, why is there no defense against her? What's with the tendency of horror movies in general to make their villain a GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere?DiabolusExNihilo?

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** Rachel does seem to be able to destroy the tape, burning the one she watched in the first film and another one in the second. But the first time, she's already copied it and showed it to Noah, so she's spared from the curse - so we can assume it balances out.



*** And here's the thing - most of her victims don't have this Machiavellian foresight to game the system. Anyone who knows that she kills by coming out of the TV won't be able to tell, because by the time they know she's already killed them.



** Samara in the remake seemed to be able to drive people to kill themselves. When she was alive, she did it to the horses. In death, her powers manifest in the form of the curse; she's punishing everyone for her parents taking away her chance to hurt people. Copying the tape allows her curse to spread. Plus it probably makes it more enjoyable for her; to save yourself you have to condemn someone else to the same fate. Either they do the same, passing the curse on, or they get to be another person for Samara to kill.



** And Aiden was staying with his aunt when Noah and Rachel really got proactive. Rachel is merely trying to find out information when she goes to the island. It's only after she's gone there that it becomes about helping or saving Samara. So at this point Aiden doesn't know what's going on.




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** If there are, she doesn't appear to have found them yet.
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*** It is based on the original novel where it is shown that her mother's powers seem to start from when they pulled the figurine out of the water. There's also the indirect suggestion that Sadako's younger brother dies young with no powers, that perhaps Sadako and him had different fathers. This plot idea so far at least has never been followed up on but to be fair Sadako has had more important things on her mind than going on Maury to see if sea demon is her daddy.

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* I understand that Sadako/Samara kills people through fear (right?). But aren't there always SOME people who are just not to be shocked, and who would survive the attack?

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* I understand that Sadako/Samara kills people through fear (right?). But aren't there always SOME people who are just not to be shocked, and who would survive the attack?attack?

* This is kind a hypothetical based on the way the ring virus was set up in the first two books. Obviously in general it is a physical virus but is one that is spread via psy rather than traditional infection. Her choice of the video at first is obviously because she practices nensha and no one knew anything about her new plan until after she died. But later in Spiral we learn she later learns to basically achieve the same ability to pass her virus on by various things that simply manage to tell her story. So if Sadako broke out of her book like she did in Loop into our modern world, could give us all her virus just by making a simple online article or youtube video? I feel like the American version nerfed something that the original version would realistically be our conqueror already.

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** Katie and her friends could not have been the first people to stay in that cabin and watch a videotape. There could have been other people who died the same way, and told other people about the tape and phone call during the seven day interim. But none of them had aunts who were reporters to investigate their story.


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** Aiden wasn't really in the loop for what Rachel and Noah were doing. As for how he knew in the first place, it could simply be the "all children have some form of psychic powers."
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*** ''Film/ScaryMovie3'' spoofed that question, with Sidney haggling over whether she meant seven business days and whether holidays counted. (They didn't.)
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* What exactly does Sadako mean when she asks Mai "Why were you the only one saved?" Is it an IronicEcho of when Reiko asked that at the end of the first film? What does it mean?
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*** This is ItJustBugsMe. You are supposed to ask in the Mass Speculation page.

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*** This is ItJustBugsMe.Headscratchers. You are supposed to ask in the Mass Speculation page.
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* Ok, the book's general use of bad biology in the original books, especially the ways in which smallpox is involved. It would be much less of a wallbanger just to say that AWizardDidIt (which is probably why both movies take this approach).
** Considering that Sadako is said to have ''genetically modified'' the smallpox virus with her PsychicPowers, doesn't that pretty much say "AWizardDidIt"?



* An AIS woman cannot impregnate herself, and neither would she have visible testicles. AIS women have vaginas, but no wombs, fallopian tubes, or ovaries, and therefore cannot bear children; and although they have testes instead of ovaries, there is no external evidence of the difference - their gonads stay undescended, tucked up inside their lower bodies like ovaries. Basically, the entire idea of book-Sadako's "hermaphroditic" ability to self-impregnate, not to mention the idea of the doctor who raped her discovering her condition by finding physical evidence of a scrotum/testicles, is the purest case of research failure.
** That depends. Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome is a spectrum ranging from a woman with no uterus and testes instead of ovaries to a man with low sperm count. If she had complete AIS, the books would be a wallbanger, but it is entirely likely she had an incomplete form of the condition (the description seems to be pretty clear that she had only partial AIS, and the condition itself is poorly explained in the book). After being resurrected, however, she deliberately altered her biology into that of a self-impregnating hermaphrodite, and did not have this ability previously (thus fulfilling her desire to reproduce... ''herself'', [[BodyHorror again and again]]).
** Or, more simply, AWizardDidIt.

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* Can you just tape over Samara with ''Series/AmericanIdol''? Sure, you might die, but you'd remove Samara's evil forever...

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* Can you just tape over Samara with ''Series/AmericanIdol''? Sure, you might die, but you'd remove Samara's evil forever...forever..t.


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** Also, you don't generally pay when people phone you.
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** [[spoiler: This question becomes the main premise of the film's second sequel ''Film/{{Rings}}'', where Samara managed to digitalize her video so that it reaches the Internet and distribute to multi-digit numbers of people]].

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** [[spoiler: This question becomes the main premise of the film's second sequel ''Film/Rings'', where Samara managed to digitalize her video so that it reaches the Internet and distribute to multi-digit numbers of people]].

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** [[spoiler: This question becomes the main premise of the film's second sequel ''Film/Rings'', ''Film/{{Rings}}'', where Samara managed to digitalize her video so that it reaches the Internet and distribute to multi-digit numbers of people]].
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** [[spoiler: This question becomes the main premise of the film's second sequel ''Film/Rings'', where Samara managed to digitalize her video so that it reaches the Internet and distribute to multi-digit numbers of people]].
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* I understand that Sadako/Samara kills people through fear (right?). But aren't there always SOME people who are just not to be shocked, and who would survive the attack?
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* Can you just tape over Samara with ''AmericanIdol''? Sure, you might die, but you'd remove Samara's evil forever...

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** In the remake, the teens claimed they tried to tape over it but it didn't work. So you can't overwrite the video.


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** Note that Rachel's iris contracts when she watches the tape in the remake. It seems that you physically have to see it.
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** What the above troper said. But I think Samara wanted Rachel to be her mother-figure. If Rachel was someone else Samara probably wouldn't let her touch her and instead kill her on the spot.


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*** In the new movie ''Rings'' a woman pushes the tv down to the floor but Samara just pushes it back up again. If you are trying to make her fall off the balcony then Samara probably wouldn't leave the tv and just come out somewhere else.


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** I don't think so. Like a disease, you can only get infected once. It's not like you get twice the amount of disease or something.


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** The phone call is probably not a necessary thing. It's just a way of Samara to let you know that you're cursed. If you don't have a phone you'll still die seven days later.
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* In the second of the American films, The Ring Two, Rachel and Sarah move house, move home, to a smaller town and all. The film opens with them picking up new furniture. Why do they have a TV with a VCR? After everything they've been through, all of it, they'd move home, and have a TV and VCR in their new house? At all?
** Aidan was a really big fan of ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'', and Rachel had just rented ''Film/DonnieDarko''?
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** The 2016 film ''Rings'' seems to imply this is the case. The video is now received through email, and it's confirmed that Samara can now come out of HD TV's [[spoiler: and the ''in flight entertainment systems and cockpit displays of airplanes.'']]

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** The ''Sadako 3D'' and the 2016 film ''Rings'' seems seem to imply this that Sadako/Samara is indeed taking full advantage of the case. The advent of digital technology. In both films the video is now received through email, online, and it's confirmed the former states that Computers, Laptops and Cell Phones can be infected with the curse, and the latter has Samara can now come coming out of HD TV's [[spoiler: and the ''in flight entertainment systems and cockpit displays of airplanes.'']]
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** The 2016 film ''Rings'' seems to imply this is the case. The video is now received through email, and it's confirmed that Samara can now come out of HD TV's [[spoiler: and the ''in flight entertainment systems and cockpit displays of airplanes.'']]

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