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* Realistically , while important for Isaac exploring " his humanity" episode, not vital enough budget wise and time wise to squeeze them into the final episode. In-show wise it is most likely considering be is the only one of his kind that he and Dr Vilka are working at some top-secret lab . Mapping his neural pathways in a way to replicate his unique emotional abilities to bestow on his people if they wish it. Except , in a permanent basis.
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** Alternatively, he used a Union technology to send his reports, but one that took longer to deliver them than it took for the Orville to get to Kaylon from where they were.
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* The Union Council could be similar to the UN Security Council, which has rotating membership drawn from the General Assembly. Maybe there's a separate, larger legislative body that encompasses all the planets and species in the Union.
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Why is it that Isaac invites every Kaylon but Timmis to his wedding? Of all of the Kaylon aside from Isaac, Timmis is likely the only one who could actually understand why a wedding is a celebrated occasion. So why weren't he and Dr. Vilka at the wedding?
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Why is it that Isaac invites every Kaylon but Timmis to his wedding? Of all of the Kaylon aside from Isaac, Timmis is likely the only one who could actually understand why a wedding is a celebrated occasion. So why weren't he and Dr. Vilka at the wedding?wedding?
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Why is it that Isaac invites every Kaylon but Timmis to his wedding? Of all of the Kaylon aside from Isaac, Timmis is likely the only one who could actually understand why a wedding is a celebrated occasion. So why weren't he and Dr. Vilka at the wedding?
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* John advised that they had to take the Quantum Drive offline to power the [[TimeMachine Quantum Accelerator.]] John did warn they would be a sitting duck due to this. The reason they could not flee is they had no working engine as it was being used to power the accelerator. As noted, the accelerator used nearly all the power from the Drive hence why they could not jump out of there. After being discovered by the Kaylon they had minutes to act not enough time to repurpose the drive. Another factor was the plan included hacking into the Kaylon hive mind to use Issacs calculations. Something that may work once, by catching the Kaylon by surprise. But no guarantee to work a second time as they would have been aware of the breach.
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We only ever see the one shuttlebay, which has 2 shuttles and, in season 3, a single pteradon fighter. However, in ''Domino'' we see the ship deploy a full squadron of the fighters. Where exactly do they store the fighters?
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We only ever see the one shuttlebay, which has 2 shuttles and, in season 3, a single pteradon fighter. However, in ''Domino'' we see the ship deploy a full squadron of the fighters. Where exactly do they store the fighters?
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*** Look up "Hot Potato". Replace "when the music stops" with "when the potato stabs the player". And Ed's clearly not having fun, so let's let him down easy and move on.
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** Even recent history has painful gaps. Originally stored on electronic media that is now either physically unreadable or uninterpretable (because no-one recognises the format). Incomplete backup policies. Picking apart the data from the Voyager probes is an exercise in archaeology. The first-light image from Viking 1 is of its footpad resting safely on the surface of Mars. The original data has been lost and for a while the only copy was a paper printout, which was subsequently scanned and became the original for all the reproductions since.
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In ''The Road Not Taken,'' after hacking into Isaac's information about the Aranov device, the crew scrambles to send Claire into the past before the Kaylon arrive and destroy them. But, really, what's the rush? They could have just escaped using the quantum drive and done the time travelling when it was less dangerous to do so. Given that it's time travel, there's not inherently a time limit on when they can do the procedure, so why do it in a panicked rush instead of getting to safety and trying it safely later?
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In ''The Road Not Taken,'' after hacking into Isaac's information about the Aranov device, the crew scrambles to send Claire into the past before the Kaylon arrive and destroy them. But, really, what's the rush? They could have just escaped using the quantum drive and done the time travelling when it was less dangerous to do so. Given that it's time travel, there's not inherently a time limit on when they can do the procedure, so why do it in a panicked rush instead of getting to safety and trying it safely later?
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* Given the information control we learn about later concerning the true female birth rate, odds are that the Union simply accepted that being born female was treated as a birth defect by their species and it was only the events surrounding Topa that exposed the lies being told, at which point the Union took action to protect Moclan females.
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* The best case scenario is that he was trying to be a good guy and help someone who, as near as he could tell, was uninfected and defenseless. His later behavior could be due to a number of reasons, including paranoia and isolation taking their toll on him. Again, this is the best case scenario.
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* He could just have a fetish for bipedal sexual activity. Sex isn't just for reproduction, after all.
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* Kelly goes into more detail explaining it to Lysella; the point is to work to improve yourself and contribute to society. This doesn't have to equate to a famous position or huge accomplishments, as a person can be considered successful by applying themselves even in a field that we would currently consider lacking in prestige, specifying being a waitress as that was Lysella's former occupation. This is because the matter synthesizer made currency based economics obsolete, so people don't actually have to work, but most due so either out of societal pressure to do more than sit around all day, or simply because doing so gets boring very quickly. "The only life wasted is a life of apathy."
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* Sleep apnea comes in degrees of severity, ranging from mild snoring to requiring supplemental oxygen. Ed's case may be mild enough that he doesn't need treatment (most people with mild sleep apnea report sleeping through the night but not feeling fully rested after a night's sleep, like a phone that didn't fully charge, which can be cured with Ed's ever-present coffee cup) or else he simply doesn't care since he is sleeping alone anyway.
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* It wasn't said explicitly, but the implication was that it was. The closest direct corroboration we got was Timmis saying that his circruitry was first-generation, pre-revolt, tech in contrast to Isaac's post-genocide designed hardware.
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* It wasn't said explicitly, but the implication was that it was. The closest direct corroboration we got was Timmis saying that his circruitry circuitry was first-generation, pre-revolt, tech in contrast to Isaac's post-genocide designed hardware. hardware.
* K1's voice actor was the same as Kaylon Primary's, implying that they are the same unit.
* K1's voice actor was the same as Kaylon Primary's, implying that they are the same unit.
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* Conservation and zoological study would still be practiced in that time, but a public zoo of real live species would no longer be necessary with the simulator technology (aka holodeck) available. Any species and environment can be recreated for teaching, or even entertainment purposes, that don't involve actual living organisms.
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* It was a colony of civilians. Once two soldiers appeared and started picking off the invaders, they found the courage to fight back effectively.
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* Given how fast their addictions progressed, she was probably worried about the situation either getting past a point where she could treat it or concerned about long term effects, since this was a completely new situation for any Moclan to be in.
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** With weapons that can reliably stun a creature into unconsciousness, killing is something that would likely rarely happen aside from the most desperate of self defense situations. Once stunned, an animal could be easily relocated and/or the area would be marked off limits to people.
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** Essentially, Gordon is a BunnyEarsLawyer and the Union uses that to their advantage.
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In the Union Council we see many alien species members of the Union and yet there are not representatives from the same species than the president.
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In the Union Council we see many alien species members of the Union and yet there are not representatives from the same species than the president.
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** It's probably simpler than that. In "About a Girl," the focus was just about entirely on physical strength. So my guess is that it's primarily about gracile vs. robust morphology, with the primary tell at birth being facial spotting. The robust morphology was favored due to greater raw strength, and babies with central spotting mature gracile without intervention; therefore, it became common practice to intervene on any baby with central spotting, and gracile adults became despised. The framing of it as a matter of ''gender'' per se (and, indeed, the ''concept'' of gender) was adopted from dioecious species.
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** The Krill already suspected that the codes might be decoys or there'd be no reason to ask in the first place (it's a fairly obvious ploy). Mercer's answer doesn't really reveal anything anyway -- for all the Krill know, he gave real codes and said they were fake.
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In "Twice in a Lifetine", Gordon mentions that he needed to kill animals in order to survive, which is a crime under Union law. Is any instance of ending the life of an animal a crime, or merely killing for food or sport? Are there provisions for wildlife management and pest control? If not, how do they prevent human and animal populations from coming into conflict?
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* The ''Orville'' also probably handed over the recordings of Layna exploding on the ship and explained that her blood was how Orrin was blowing up Krill ships, a question the Krill wanted answered (and in fact was their stated reason for wanting Orrin turned over to them). As far as they're concerned, the terrorist attacks on their ships have been explained and stopped, so they don't ''need'' Orrin anymore.
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The Union obviously knows the Janisi consider males to be inferior so why not assemble an all female crew to handle the initial negociations with them? Why send a regular exploratory ship like the Orville with a mixed gender crew and have the senior male officers, whom the crew would automatically look to for leadership in a crisis play subservient roles?
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The Union obviously knows the Janisi consider males to be inferior so why not assemble an all female crew to handle the initial negociations negotiations with them? Why send a regular exploratory ship like the Orville with a mixed gender crew and have the senior male officers, whom the crew would automatically look to for leadership in a crisis play subservient roles?roles?
* The ''Orville'' was probably the only ship they could spare at the time. Remember there's still a full blown war going on. It also would only have delayed the issue until the Janisi met Admiral Halsey and then we're right back to the problem. As for having the senior officers play-act subservient, even Ed and Kelly admit that was a stupid idea.
* The ''Orville'' was probably the only ship they could spare at the time. Remember there's still a full blown war going on. It also would only have delayed the issue until the Janisi met Admiral Halsey and then we're right back to the problem. As for having the senior officers play-act subservient, even Ed and Kelly admit that was a stupid idea.
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* There's a number of possible reasons for this:
** 1) Simple logistics. With so many different species and so many different possible religious beliefs, it would be an HR ''nightmare'' to keep track of them all. Which is related to...
** 2) Issues of fairness. Giving said crewman the first day of each month off is at least 12 more days off (assuming the calendar he's working off of is the Union Standard one, and not one from his homeworld with shorter months) that he has that others ''don't.'' And that's ''before'' getting into the issue that this would be time off for ''religious'' reasons. Suppose another crewman's faith requires him to abstain from work for a month or longer? Consider how much controversy there is ''today'' over giving Muslim workers holiday time off for, say, Ramadan, but expecting non-muslim workers to keep working during that same time (no, we are NOT going into the "but christians get off for christmas!" argument here, don't even bring it up). It's possible the Union decided to sidestep the whole issue and make it policy that if you want time off during a holy day, you put in a leave request in advance, religious beliefs be damned.
** 3) As Kelly points out, respecting cultures is a two-way street. Yes, the Union has to accommodate its crews as best it can, but only so far that it allows the ensign to perform his duties, or not interfere with other crew performing theirs, and his crewmates are CLEARLY uncomfortable with him walking around balls-out naked. Simply put, if he wants his needs and comfort respected, he's gotta do the same for everyone else, a fact he acknowledges when he accepts Kelly's compromise.
** 1) Simple logistics. With so many different species and so many different possible religious beliefs, it would be an HR ''nightmare'' to keep track of them all. Which is related to...
** 2) Issues of fairness. Giving said crewman the first day of each month off is at least 12 more days off (assuming the calendar he's working off of is the Union Standard one, and not one from his homeworld with shorter months) that he has that others ''don't.'' And that's ''before'' getting into the issue that this would be time off for ''religious'' reasons. Suppose another crewman's faith requires him to abstain from work for a month or longer? Consider how much controversy there is ''today'' over giving Muslim workers holiday time off for, say, Ramadan, but expecting non-muslim workers to keep working during that same time (no, we are NOT going into the "but christians get off for christmas!" argument here, don't even bring it up). It's possible the Union decided to sidestep the whole issue and make it policy that if you want time off during a holy day, you put in a leave request in advance, religious beliefs be damned.
** 3) As Kelly points out, respecting cultures is a two-way street. Yes, the Union has to accommodate its crews as best it can, but only so far that it allows the ensign to perform his duties, or not interfere with other crew performing theirs, and his crewmates are CLEARLY uncomfortable with him walking around balls-out naked. Simply put, if he wants his needs and comfort respected, he's gotta do the same for everyone else, a fact he acknowledges when he accepts Kelly's compromise.
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* Keep in mind that most the Kaylon ships are ''much'' bigger than the Orville and even some of the larger ships we've seen in the fleet. And yes, they probably are stacked like luggage as they would need no other accommodations for the journey.
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** Also the upvote/downvote system is essentially a defacto social credit score, best seen when Lysella denies service to a woman with more than 500,000 downvotes. Her ability to actually ''pay'' for her drink is completely irrelevant, even in a society that still uses ''cash.'' Those with a high enough number of upvotes may not even need to deal with money as being seen aiding such a popular person could raise your own score.
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** And perhaps that's exactly what they did, but to scale it up would take more time than they had. Which is why we see a similar device deployed against them much later, in Season 3.
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In the last episode, it was stated 4000 ships arrived at the Isaacs wedding and it held all of the Kaylon population, sans for a small defense force. It seems incredible that mere 4000 ships can hold the entire population. So, is the Kaylon population so small? Or, as a synthetic life form, they are just stacked up as a luggage in those ships?
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In the last episode, it was stated 4000 ships arrived at the Isaacs wedding and it held all of the Kaylon population, sans for a small defense force. It seems incredible that mere 4000 ships can hold the entire population. So, is the Kaylon population so small? Or, as a synthetic life form, they are just stacked up as a luggage in those ships?
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*In addition to the above, it's stated outright in "Electric Sheep" that on the one hand, Issac is considered critical to Union security as their only defector from the species currently trying to kill them, and on the other hand, even Ed isn't entirely sure he can trust him not to go evil again. All The Union knows is that Issac only turned on the Kaylons initially because he has some form of attachment to the Orville and her crew, and thus the safest thing for the 'entire galaxy' is to keep him in the environment where he's "happy". By extension, this is going to make the ship far more important than it was.
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* Fortunately for the “so many questions” there are applicable answers. Mercer is put at head of the combat fleet because a) they are nearest to the focal point b) they are carrying the two experts essential to stopping the weapon and c) due to circumstance in the past three years the crew and ship has had the most experience in both Kaylon, Moclan and Krill battles. Also, while the ''Orville'' was [[TookALevelInBadass previously an insignificant ship and crew its previous missions and encounters has lead to its increase in importance and experience.]] Previous missions include the Kaylon attempted invasion, multiple missions in Krill space, as well as multiple engagements with Moclans due to Topa. Various space battles, diplomatic missions ( with varied results) time-travel, counter-intelligence, etc. Not only that due to its upgrades it basically nearly as [[PintsizedPowerhouse formidable as a Union heavy cruiser but faster and more agile.]] A crew that has seen more then its fair share of combat, with a ship faster and more manoeuvrable then a heavy cruiser with not only near the same level of fire power but also with the only wing of Pterdrodon fighters with both the battle experience of Gordan (who fought in small Krill fighter and knows it ins and out ) and John ( command experience ) who helped develop the fighter so knows its in and out. Also, Charley and Isaac created the weapon due to certain circumstances detailed in the expanded universe novella which explains why they are vital to its creation. A missing episode if you [[RealLifeWritesThePlot will due to covid-19.]] If the Kaylon had approached from the other side of the planet Xeyla they would have seen it coming because while space is big starship sensors work quite well and they would have moved their ships. Not that it would happen as the Kaylon had been thrashing the Union one on one, on their arrival they would have headed towards the Union ships to take them out first which was logical and expected to get rid of them first, which they did not expect was [[CurbStompBattle to get wiped out.]]
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* Fortunately for the “so many questions” there are applicable answers. Mercer is put at head of the combat fleet because a) they are nearest to the focal point b) they are carrying the two experts essential to stopping the weapon and c) due to circumstance in the past three years the crew and ship has had the most experience in both Kaylon, Moclan and Krill battles. Also, while the ''Orville'' was [[TookALevelInBadass previously an insignificant ship and crew its previous missions and encounters has lead to its increase in importance and experience.]] Previous missions include the Kaylon attempted invasion, multiple missions in Krill space, as well as multiple engagements with Moclans due to Topa. Various space battles, diplomatic missions ( with varied results) time-travel, counter-intelligence, etc. Not only that due to its upgrades it basically nearly as [[PintsizedPowerhouse formidable as a Union heavy cruiser but faster and more agile.]] A crew that has seen more then its fair share of combat, with a ship faster and more manoeuvrable maneuverable then a heavy cruiser with not only near the same level of fire power but also with the only wing of Pterdrodon fighters with both the battle experience of Gordan (who fought in small Krill fighter and knows it ins and out ) and John ( command experience ) who helped develop the fighter so knows its in and out. Also, Charley and Isaac created the weapon due to certain circumstances detailed in the expanded universe novella which explains why they are vital to its creation. A missing episode if you [[RealLifeWritesThePlot will due to covid-19.]] If the Kaylon had approached from the other side of the planet Xeyla they would have seen it coming because while space is big starship sensors work quite well and they would have moved their ships. Not that it would happen as the Kaylon had been thrashing the Union one on one, on their arrival they would have headed towards the Union ships to take them out first which was logical and expected to get rid of them first, which what they did not expect was [[CurbStompBattle to get wiped out.]]
