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***** Fine. The easiest explanation is the Machines ARE NOT relying on humans for power - they are using all those feasible sources that were suggested here: nuclear power, gheothermal, hydro, wind, whatever. They may be collecting whatever energy the bodies of Matricians yields (why waste it?) and add it to the pool, but it is not by any mean decisive. The purpose of the Matrix is different. My theory is that the machines are actually benevolent (or just controlled by humans) and the Matrix is basically a life support system for the humanity. It may also be some grand social experiment that the Machines are conducting, or just their idea of fun ([[SouthPark Reality show: Earth!]]).
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***** Fine. The easiest explanation is the Machines ARE NOT relying on humans for power - they are using all those feasible sources that were suggested here: nuclear power, gheothermal, hydro, wind, whatever. They may be collecting whatever energy the bodies of Matricians yields (why waste it?) and add it to the pool, but it is not by any mean decisive. The purpose of the Matrix is different. My theory is that the machines are actually benevolent (or just controlled by humans) and the Matrix is basically a life support system for the humanity. It may also be some grand social experiment that the Machines are conducting, or just their idea of fun ([[SouthPark ([[WesternAnimation/SouthPark Reality show: Earth!]]).
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****** We see in the last movie that the System can voluntarily release a person from the Matrix if it wants to. So he doesn't need an operator to make him an exit; the Agents are giving him one.
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****** If you're entering the Matrix with the System's willing cooperation, then logging off should be a piece of cake. Remember, the Operators are just hacking into functions already in the Matrix's code -- the Matrix itself could use those capabilities as well, if it chose to.
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* Perhaps the simplest [[WatsonianVersusDoylist Watsonian]] answer is that Morpheus, like many other humans, is an [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18443_6-famous-movie-wisemen-who-were-totally-full-shit_p2.html idiot]] and doesn't actually understand the real reason the Machines use humans.
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* Perhaps the simplest [[WatsonianVersusDoylist Watsonian]] answer is that Morpheus, like many other humans, is an [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18443_6-famous-movie-wisemen-who-were-totally-full-shit_p2.html idiot]] and doesn't actually understand the real reason the Machines use humans. humans.
* There is a possibility that the entire concept was inspired by ValiantComics. In a cross-series storyline set in the future, sentient machines invade Earth and imprison humans with PsychicPowers in pods as an energy source. At least one such captive human is sufficiently-skilled as a [[{{Telepathy}} telepath]] that she is able to spy on the machines through the psychic network and give advice to her student in the real world. All of this was in the titles: ''Magnus: Robot Fighter'', ''Rai and the Future Force'' and ''Psi-Lords'' during the early-90's, before ''The Matrix'' movies were made.
* There is a possibility that the entire concept was inspired by ValiantComics. In a cross-series storyline set in the future, sentient machines invade Earth and imprison humans with PsychicPowers in pods as an energy source. At least one such captive human is sufficiently-skilled as a [[{{Telepathy}} telepath]] that she is able to spy on the machines through the psychic network and give advice to her student in the real world. All of this was in the titles: ''Magnus: Robot Fighter'', ''Rai and the Future Force'' and ''Psi-Lords'' during the early-90's, before ''The Matrix'' movies were made.
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** Given the rather sketchy look of that guy, anything that could scramble evidence, delete criminal records, or conceal monetary transactions could be worth it.
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** How about a piece of software that could [[{{Hackers}} make an ATM spit cash out into the street]]?
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* At the beginning of the first movie, Neo sold some kind of illegal computer program to that dude for $2,000. Does anyone know exactly what it was? I mean, I'm not by any means a computer geek, so I can't think of any kind of software I'd be willing to pay 2 grand for.
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*** Even if you argue that humanity ''needs'' saving from the Matrix, which is debatable, the sad truth is that the Zionists cannot and will not save anyone. The planet is '''dead'''. Those of the "liberated" that survive the diconnection with their sanity intact will either die of starvation and exposure or be forced to live in a ''true'' slavery and dictatorship, because that would be the only way to ensure their survival.
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***** Fine. The easiest explanation is the Machines ARE NOT relying on humans for power - they are using all those feasible sources that were suggested here: nuclear power, gheothermal, hydro, wind, whatever. They may be collecting whatever energy the bodies of Matricians yields (why waste it?) and add it to the pool, but it is not by any mean decisive. The purpose of the Matrix is different. My theory is that the machines are actually benevolent (or just controlled by humans) and the Matrix is basically a life support system for the humanity. It may also be some grand social experiment that the Machines are conducting, or just their idea of fun ([[SouthPark Reality show: Earth!]]).
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*** That's something of a lazy answer, especially since BellisariosMaxim is so frequently invoked by lazy creators to justify [[TheyJustDidntCare not caring]] about their writing.
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**** That's not good enough. If you wanted to come up with an In-Universe answer for a digital watch in Gladiator, you absolutely could, as far-fetched as it may be (time travel? hyperadvanced gifts from the Gods? magic? aliens?). Some things that are mistakes to begin with turn into something bigger - the {{Franchise/Grand Theft Auto}} series was created when an accidental glitch in a racing game turned out to be pretty cool on its own. If it's a mistake, even if the creators themselves [[TheyJustDidntCare don't care]] enough to explain it, it's our duty as tropers to do so.
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* Perhaps the simplest [[WatsonianVersusDoylist Watsonian]] answer is that Morpheus, like many other humans, is an [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18443_6-famous-movie-wisemen-who-were-totally-full-shit_p2.html idiot]] and doesn't actually understand the real reason the Machines use humans.
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** What it ultimately comes down to is this: The Zionist goal is to save ''humanity'' from the matrix. They do not care about the individual humans. They care about the whole of the species, and if they have to kill hundreds, or thousands, or hundreds of thousands to save ''billions'', that is what they are prepared to do.
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*** Except that in Reloaded Neo ''does'' incapacitate them that way. The Agents' bodies are still built on the rules of bodies in the Matrix, meaning that there's only so much damage they can shrug off before their bodies just can't continue functioning. Plus, the first bunch of them Neo fights, he deliberately doesn't want the fight over quickly... he's keeping the Agents focused on him so that the other Zionites can evacuate. If he just pulled out a weapon and killed them, they'd hop to a nearby body and might interfere with the others getting clear.
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*** The way I see it, part of it just has to do with the way a punch works. People who can already move at high speeds have more likelihood of being able to dodge a punch than a bullet because the punch is slower and more telegraphed, probably part of every martial arts program the Zionites upload includes reading the opponent's movements... Agents have to do a lot more body movements to throw a punch than just raise and fire a gun.
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*** The Agents are probably authorized to break the Masquerade to various extents depending on the severity of the situation. Letting the Keymaker out and about probably posed a significant risk, so they could be more open about what they were doing in the name of stopping him. The Machines also clearly have some sort of memory-alteration thing (we see them use it on Neo to make him wake up in bed after the interrogation and think it was all a horrible dream), they could probably just do a "reset" on that day and make everyone wake up as normal thinking "Wow, that's a hell of a dream, I'm gonna feel weird doing this morning's commute." And even aside from all that... the Machines know this iteration of the Matrix is approaching the end of its operational life. They probably don't care as much about preserving the Masquerade as they normally would.
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** She means it's the only surefire, effective weapon they have. The electro-guns can take out Sentinels, but they only take out one at a time and they take several moments to do that. Sentinels don't really attack singly. Those "awesome" energy "cannons" show that they can't even reliably kills a ''human'' let alone Machines, plus they seem to be fairly short-range. For point defense some of the hoverships have more conventional weaponry, which again isn't absolutely effective... it makes Sentinels go reeling, but we don't know that it actually kills them, plus the Machines tend to send a ''lot'' of them. The EMP is the only weapon they have that is absolutely, instantly effective. Any Machine in the radius of the EMP just dies, period, the moment the switch is thrown. Anything else is basically screwing around and desperation tactics.
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** First off, as we learn later, they don't actually want to kill the One, they just want to make a good show of it. Secondly, they may have temporarily abandoned the Nebuchadnezzar, hiding out in the junk around them and keeping their heat signatures down, until the Machines stopped looking for them or until help arrived. Since it fades out directly after that scene, we don't know ''what'' happened. Be creative, come up with your own explanation for how they got out of it.
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** Why not use a sling? It's something the Sentinels can do without building another machine that's cripplingly overspecialized. Even the explosive robot probably has plenty of other uses. The Machines probably covet every material resource, building something that ''just'' shoots projectiles (projectiles that are not good for anything else, at that) is probably considered a waste.
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** Commander Angryfuck may have indeed done that. But also the ships are shown to all be different, as evidenced by the complaint of "She's got a fat ass!" in the third film (it's apparently bigger and less maneuverable than her own ship). Morpheus seems to primarily do "search and rescue" operations, meaning he looks for people who want to be Redpills. The Nebuchadnezzar is thus probably built for speed, relative stealth, and operational efficiency at using the Matrix, not for combat. The Mjolnir, by comparison, is apparently a big boat of a thing and is thus studded with guns, so probably does more missions venturing into hostile territory and expectations of confronting the enemy.
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** Again, ''they don't actually want to kill Neo''. They just want to make him feel he's on the run and in danger, to put the pressure on him and keep him from thinking he's got other options or could really win. But also the Machines aren't watching the movie, they don't necessarily know that Neo did it and passes out dramatically after disabling the Sentinels nearby. It's entirely possible they thought "Oh crap, the humans have made portable EMP charges, better get out of here and report this."
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** There are clearly civilians in Zion, including those who weren't born there... else there'd be no one to volunteer for military service when the Machines are invading, as we see people doing. The whole "poor Cypher got drafted" thing is baloney. However, freed people probably are expected to work at ''some''thing, probably taking care of their food crops or repairing homes and stuff like that, because the Resistance is operating on a shoestring... everyone needs to work so that everyone can survive. Cypher is shown to be lazy, entitled, and a hedonist... if he joins Morpheus' crew, sure he's in danger and he still has to work, but at least he gets to sit around a lot too, playing voyeur with the monitors, but more than that ''he gets to go into the Matrix'' where he can ditch his duties to grab a simulated hot dog or cheesesteak or whatever. He's addicted to comfort and fine things, which is why he demands to live the sweet life as part of his conditions. Cypher's not some poor guy who got forcibly kidnapped from his home and drafted, he's someone who asked for the truth, didn't like it when he got it, and tried to kill a few thousand people so he could go back to having steak dinners.
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*** Aside from the whole "preserving the masquerade of the resistance" thing the Machines have going on, there's nothing to say that they actually know that's how the Resistance gets new members. The very point of a covert resistance movement is keeping your methods secret... the Machines may think they actually fly out to the appropriate pods and snag them and have been trying to figure out how the Resistance got stealth ships. (Again, if we were to assume they're not just playing along.) Add to that, the Machines have billions of people to look after. In those numbers someone's probably dying pretty much constantly... building the service drones to be capable of delivering neck-snaps and then having them take the time to perform neck-snaps may be too resource and time intensive. Some Machine analyst may have crunched the numbers and said "Hey, we actually lose less resources and time just dealing with the occasional new Resistance member than we would by making sure every human we read as dead really is before we flush 'em." After all, bullets from an Agent are just software and thus free, servos that can perform a neck-snap are not.
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** I'm uncertain why people are confused about this. Morpheus himself says, in that scene, ''directly after'' that line, something to the effect of "We can't tell you exactly what year it is, because we don't know." He says himself that they have no way of knowing what the actual year is, and have simply made a best guess. He says they've been fighting for 100 years because some form of resistance has been going on for awhile and because it sounds more inspiring than "We have been fighting the machines for roughly 83 years, depending on when you consider our resistance to have officially started!"
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* You basically answered your own question. Why would the humans want to blanket a large portion of their own planet with something that would make it impossible for them to live a technological lifestyle?
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** And as Morpheus says, some bluepills will actively fight to preserve their existence as cattle rather than confront the harsh reality of... reality, as Matrix Online showed (since I believe there was an entire faction of "Cypherites"). Entire crops could have been lost in civil war.
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** Could also be a manifestation of problems that occur in the pods. Contaminated feeding tube = influenza, that sort of thing. They get better when the machines service the problem, or they become fatal if the machines don't bother or don't service the pod in time.
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* Momentum. As illustrated by the fact that it doesn't "soar" for long.
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** Morpheus explains this. He says that Agents still have to work within the boundaries of the Matrix's programming. When Neo stops bullets or flies, he's essentially rewriting the Matrix's code on the fly. He's hacking and altering the system... something that Agents, as ''part'' of the system, cannot do.
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** There's a fair bit of time between the movies, y'know. Time in which Tank continued to go out and do the second-most dangerous job a Zionite can do. (Basically, if you're on a ship, you're in danger. You're only in more danger going into the Matrix itself.) He probably got killed at some later point, trying to do repairs outside the ship where a drone could get at him before they could activate the EMP, something like that.
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**** The part that doesn't obey the second law is the idea, only narrowly escaped by Morpheus's speech, that the machines could derive perpetual energy simply by feeding the dead humans back to each other and extracting their energy output. They would need to continually add more food into the supply, and it would take energy from elsewhere to continue to produce that food, and ultimately this method would be very low on the efficiency list. If they didn't, the nutritional content of the dead humans would increasingly dwindle, and eventually the new crops of humans would starve to death before they passed infancy. Now Morpheus did say "combined with a form of fusion"; it's not clear whether they meant that that's how they replenish the food supply for the humans or simply another source of energy for the machines themselves.
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**** The part that doesn't obey the second law is the idea, only narrowly escaped by Morpheus's speech, that the machines could derive perpetual energy simply by feeding the dead humans back to each other and extracting their energy output. They would need to continually add more food into the supply, and it would take energy from elsewhere to continue to produce that food, and ultimately this method would be very low on the efficiency list. If they didn't, the nutritional content of the dead humans would increasingly dwindle, and eventually the new crops of humans would starve to death before they passed infancy. Now Morpheus did say "combined with a form of fusion"; it's not clear whether they he meant that that's how they replenish the food supply for the humans or simply another source of energy for the machines themselves.
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**** The part that doesn't obey the second law is the idea, only narrowly escaped by Morpheus's speech, that the machines could derive perpetual energy simply by feeding the dead humans back to each other and extracting their energy output. They would need to continually add more food into the supply, and it would take energy from elsewhere to continue to produce that food, and ultimately this method would be very low on the efficiency list. If they didn't, the nutritional content of the dead humans would increasingly dwindle, and eventually the new crops of humans would starve to death before they passed infancy. Now Morpheus did say "combined with a form of fusion"; it's not clear whether they meant that that's how they replenish the food supply for the humans or simply another source of energy for the machines themselves.
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*** In addition, you might not be able to call up every mole, freckle, wrinkle, etc on your body from memory, but if something changes, even a small one, you're gonna notice.
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*** Mitochondria. You mentioned it. Human beings are one of the animals with the highest mitochondria on the planet due to the high numbers of mitochondria in neurons, so maintaining humans would be much easier than having to maintain an oogleplex of bacteria or modify something else when you have a human being filled with mitochondria which it keeps synthesizing over and over again ad infinitum (and plants and plankton... chloroplasts mayb?). What would be the point of spending energy creating something when you could use the human body ''as'' a mitochondria factory (which is ''what I said''). I certainly don't see the point, anyway. And the point of "providing substrates" (e.g. eating, IV drip etc.) is that it's necessary for energy production... so I don't know why you mentioned that. Anyway, I wasn't explain a better option, I just explained why it would work. And it ''does'' obey the second law of thermodynamics. If you don't know why please look up the meaning.
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*Yes, you can not gain more energy from a system than you put in. Yet this does not stop us from have power plants all across the globe, generating power 24/7. How is this possible, despite the laws of physics? Because no power plant CREATES energy, they CONVERT energy from one form to another. Most operate by converting potential energy in fuel to thermal, then thermal to kinetic, then kinetic to electric. At no point is any energy being true created, since this is impossible. Were the Matrix and the Machines real, they would operate in a similar fashion, using human bodies to convert the energy in organic fuel, which the machines cannot use, into heat and electric, which they can use quite easily. As for why the Machines are doing all this with humans, and not, say, bacteria? One of the points in the later films was that the Machines, loathe though they were to admit it, still had an emotional attachment to humanity, and therefore could not bring themselves to just wipe their creators out. The Matrix killed two birds with one stone, resolving both the energy problem and the human problem.
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** According to one fan theory, Zion is a part of the Matrix. Here's a [[link http://www.cracked.com/article/18367_6-insane-fan-theories-that-actually-make-great-movies-better]]The Zion is a part of the Matrix thing does make Neo's power thing more believable.
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* Who's to say they didn't try that in a previous simulation? "Entire crops were lost" after all.
