History Headscratchers / TheMatrix

18th Jan '18 12:37:28 PM MeaJae97
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* I've been thinking of this for years, but, how would have Neo's life gone if he had swallowed the blue pill?

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* I've been thinking of this for years, but, how [[folder: How would have Neo's life gone if he had swallowed the blue pill?pill?]]
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18th Jan '18 12:35:35 PM MeaJae97
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31st Dec '17 11:59:06 AM nombretomado
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** How about a piece of software that could [[{{Hackers}} make an ATM spit cash out into the street]]?

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** How about a piece of software that could [[{{Hackers}} [[Film/{{Hackers}} make an ATM spit cash out into the street]]?
3rd Dec '17 12:40:09 PM nombretomado
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* Why hasn't Morpheus' ship still got weapons? It's not just the energy guns now - we've seen that the rebels have conventional ones too: machine guns and even rocket launchers. And we've seen that they do put those on the ships, so what the hell? Some rank-and-file ship has guns, but the ship that carries the freaking One doesn't? What, did Commander [[ConfusedMatthew Angryfuck]] intentionally refuse to issue Morpheus some guns as a revenge for stealing his girl?

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* Why hasn't Morpheus' ship still got weapons? It's not just the energy guns now - we've seen that the rebels have conventional ones too: machine guns and even rocket launchers. And we've seen that they do put those on the ships, so what the hell? Some rank-and-file ship has guns, but the ship that carries the freaking One doesn't? What, did Commander [[ConfusedMatthew [[WebVideo/ConfusedMatthew Angryfuck]] intentionally refuse to issue Morpheus some guns as a revenge for stealing his girl?
27th Nov '17 8:13:50 PM AmourMitts
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*I've been thinking of this for years, but, how would have Neo's life gone if he had swallowed the blue pill?
18th Sep '17 7:43:12 AM Gess
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* A case of IfIWanterYouDead maybe? She could've engineered a situation we she had an upper hand over the zionists but didn't act upon hence proving that's she's not a threat.
8th Jul '17 12:49:02 PM nombretomado
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*** There's nothing to say that "Beyond" is set anywhere except an outlying neighborhood of the same city. If it was really set in Japan, why would the agents, who are treated as local authority figures, still be caucasian and look and act exactly like the movie agents, instead of something more geographically relevant? That would make sense if Yoko lives in a Japanese district of the city, not so much if she's supposed to be in another country thousands of miles away. Also, a character referring to "her aunt in France" means little. Did we see the aunt? Does the aunt really even exist? The Matrix is a false reality. It's a lie. That's the whole point. You can't trust anything inside it. The television shows what the machines want it to show, the newspapers have whatever headlines the machines want them to have, the maps look like whatever the machines like. The whole point is that none of it's real. So the only thing to be trusted is what we actually see, which is a gigantic city with lots of districts and the surrounding mountains. As for the Capitol building and Capitol City, for all we know the city itself is called Capitol City and thought of as a national capitol by the bluepills. The Matrix isn't just time travel into the 1990s like some people seem to treat it. It's a virtual ant farm, an MMORPG that mimics daily modern life. Given the choice between an entire, unseen virtual planet and what the movies actually showed us, which is the megacity and its surroundings, I prefer going with the megacity and its surroundings as the Matrix, especially since that fits with the theme of the Matrix as a mental prison, a bottle-world that drives some people mad. TheOtherWiki presents both explanations side by side, and the Matrix wikia goes with the CityInABottle one, so it's up to the viewer to decide which answer they personally prefer.

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*** There's nothing to say that "Beyond" is set anywhere except an outlying neighborhood of the same city. If it was really set in Japan, why would the agents, who are treated as local authority figures, still be caucasian and look and act exactly like the movie agents, instead of something more geographically relevant? That would make sense if Yoko lives in a Japanese district of the city, not so much if she's supposed to be in another country thousands of miles away. Also, a character referring to "her aunt in France" means little. Did we see the aunt? Does the aunt really even exist? The Matrix is a false reality. It's a lie. That's the whole point. You can't trust anything inside it. The television shows what the machines want it to show, the newspapers have whatever headlines the machines want them to have, the maps look like whatever the machines like. The whole point is that none of it's real. So the only thing to be trusted is what we actually see, which is a gigantic city with lots of districts and the surrounding mountains. As for the Capitol building and Capitol City, for all we know the city itself is called Capitol City and thought of as a national capitol by the bluepills. The Matrix isn't just time travel into the 1990s like some people seem to treat it. It's a virtual ant farm, an MMORPG that mimics daily modern life. Given the choice between an entire, unseen virtual planet and what the movies actually showed us, which is the megacity and its surroundings, I prefer going with the megacity and its surroundings as the Matrix, especially since that fits with the theme of the Matrix as a mental prison, a bottle-world that drives some people mad. TheOtherWiki Wiki/TheOtherWiki presents both explanations side by side, and the Matrix wikia goes with the CityInABottle one, so it's up to the viewer to decide which answer they personally prefer.
3rd Jul '17 3:11:56 PM DanteCorwyn
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* Anyone else have issues with how the Oracle is presented? Morpheus's us vs them discussion points out just how dangerous anyone not unplugged in the matrix can be, but he doesn't have any issues talking to the oracle, who he must know doesn't exist in the free world. It's only in the second film that non-hostile programs are encountered, so why do any of the rebels willingly visit someone who has any chance of turning hostile at any minute?
21st Jun '17 5:24:12 AM hermanJnr
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** Uhm, no. The Machines are in control of the real world. Remember that? And always will be. And they obviously have no interest in giving up the spot of the dominant species. So any kind of rebuilding or repopulation will be severely limited and "free" humans will live under a constant threat of annihilation should they ever become an annoyance. That is, if it will be at all possible, since, I'd like to reiterate, ''the planet is dead''. There's no sun, meaning they cannot grow food. Simple as that.[[/folder]]

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** Uhm, no. The Machines are in control of the real world. Remember that? And always will be. And they obviously have no interest in giving up the spot of the dominant species. So any kind of rebuilding or repopulation will be severely limited and "free" humans will live under a constant threat of annihilation should they ever become an annoyance. That is, if it will be at all possible, since, I'd like to reiterate, ''the planet is dead''. There's no sun, meaning they cannot grow food. Simple as that.that.
** People are really overcomplicating the morality of the whole thing. The bluepills are *oblivious slaves* 100% in the control of the Machines, it's that simple. They can't even choose what side they want to be on; they're a zombie army for the Machines. That doesn't mean killing them is a nice choice, but it's the *only* choice if you're detected by the system as a Redpill and you don't want to die. Bluepills are plugged into a network that can fatally use them as pawns them whenever it likes by literally morphing them into an Agent. The true monsters morally are the Agents themselves: they happily use humans as substitute bodies and ditch them when they get killed without a moment's pause or care. Additionally, the cops, SWAT teams and soldiers are all shown to be completely subservient to the Agents and at no point do they ever disagree with what they are ordered to do (except for the rooftop chase scene where the Agents leap over a highway and the cops simply can't follow). When Neo walks into the lobby in the first movie and guns down the security staff, he is (at that point) undetected by the Agents in the Matrix. When word gets to the Agents they immediately begin morphing (and thus killing) Bluepill bodies near Neo and try to kill him - so his shooting spree is the only way to neutralise potential Agents before they can teleport to his position. The guards were basically dead men walking already.
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20th May '17 1:44:42 PM nombretomado
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* There is a possibility that the entire concept was inspired by ValiantComics. In a cross-series storyline set in the future, sentient machines invade Earth and imprison humans with PsychicPowers in pods as an energy source. At least one such captive human is sufficiently-skilled as a [[{{Telepathy}} telepath]] that she is able to spy on the machines through the psychic network and give advice to her student in the real world. All of this was in the titles: ''Magnus: Robot Fighter'', ''Rai and the Future Force'' and ''Psi-Lords'' during the early-90's, before ''The Matrix'' movies were made.

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* There is a possibility that the entire concept was inspired by ValiantComics.Creator/ValiantComics. In a cross-series storyline set in the future, sentient machines invade Earth and imprison humans with PsychicPowers in pods as an energy source. At least one such captive human is sufficiently-skilled as a [[{{Telepathy}} telepath]] that she is able to spy on the machines through the psychic network and give advice to her student in the real world. All of this was in the titles: ''Magnus: Robot Fighter'', ''Rai and the Future Force'' and ''Psi-Lords'' during the early-90's, before ''The Matrix'' movies were made.
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