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20th Jun '16 2:39:34 PM MrDeath
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* The biggest headscratcher here is trying to figure out what in the ''hell'' M. Night was thinking...

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* The biggest headscratcher here is trying to figure out what in the ''hell'' M. Night was thinking...
20th Jun '16 2:22:48 PM Taskmaster123
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* The biggest headscratcher here is trying to figure out what in the ''hell'' M. Night was thinking...
30th Apr '16 8:50:31 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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*** Given that benders have to take a few seconds to build up their chi, a quick non-bender probably could do so.
29th Apr '16 11:38:25 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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* So, apparently they're planning to make the sequel. Nonwithstanding why they'd want to do that when the original tanked so hard, how will they manage it? They cut Bumi, the Kyoshi Warriors, the Freedom Fighters, and several other people who would go on to play important parts in the next season.
21st Apr '16 9:20:34 PM Dillo
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** First of all, that little rock was NOT floating, it was being ''bent'', and it never stopped touching the table. It doesn't need to be explained. Different levels of imbalanced emotion effect the way the elements around a bender are subtly manipulated, just like the cartoon. Mild imbalanced emotions will only be capable of manipulating ''small'' samples of elements, and even then it might be too subtle for anyone to care, ''unless you're a banished prince trying to find the master of all four elements''. On the other hand, EXTREME imbalanced emotions (like Cartoon!Zuko getting angry in a room full of candles while meditating, or Cartoon!Katara getting furious next to an iceberg or inside a room made entirely of ice) can be strong enough to cause devastation in the area if not properly managed or relaxed... Nobody knows what the purpose of the test is, otherwise Iroh wouldn't have been so secretive when explaining it to Aang. And obviously, Aang at the time would never be expected to make an anvil-sized boulder stand upright, or expand an entire bed of flames, or be the obvious cause of rippling/waves in a big bowl full of water. That's why Zuko and Iroh used ''small'' samples of elements, because those objects have more physical freedom and will therefore be easier to manipulated with mild emotion. Zuko and Iroh didn't even need the little rock to stand upright, or the little puddle of water to form into a perfect circle. They both watch the element samples closely, and even the tiniest hint of unnatural movement will show them whether someone is the Avatar or not. If the elements hadn't been bent so quickly after placed in front of him, it's safe to presume that Zuko and Iroh had already planned to provoke emotional reactions so that Aang would subconsciously bend any of the small elements. It's just lucky for them that Aang was already in a state of considerable emotional imbalance (uneasiness and fearful confusion) from what was going on, that he bent the small elements more blatantly.


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** First of all, that little rock was NOT floating, it was being ''bent'', and it never stopped touching the table. It doesn't need to be explained. Different levels of imbalanced emotion effect the way the elements around a bender are subtly manipulated, just like the cartoon. Mild imbalanced emotions will only be capable of manipulating ''small'' samples of elements, and even then it might be too subtle for anyone to care, ''unless you're a banished prince trying to find searching for the master of all four elements''. On the other hand, EXTREME imbalanced emotions (like Cartoon!Zuko getting angry in a room full of candles while meditating, or Cartoon!Katara getting furious next to an iceberg or inside a room made entirely of ice) can be strong enough to cause devastation in the area if not properly managed or relaxed... Nobody knows what the purpose of the test is, otherwise Iroh wouldn't have been so secretive when explaining it to Aang. And obviously, Aang at the time would never be expected to make an anvil-sized boulder stand upright, or expand an entire bed of flames, or be the obvious cause of rippling/waves in a big bowl full of water. That's why Zuko and Iroh used use ''small'' samples of elements, because those objects have more physical freedom and will therefore be easier to manipulated with mild emotion. Zuko and Iroh didn't even need the little rock to stand upright, or the little puddle of water to form into a perfect circle. They both watch the element samples closely, and even the tiniest hint of unnatural movement will show them whether someone is the Avatar or not. If the elements hadn't been bent so quickly after placed in front of him, it's safe to presume that Zuko and Iroh had already planned to provoke emotional reactions so that Aang would subconsciously bend any of the small elements. It's just lucky for them that Aang was already in a state of considerable emotional imbalance (uneasiness (a combination of uneasiness and fearful confusion) from what was going on, that he bent the small elements more blatantly.

21st Apr '16 9:18:01 PM Dillo
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** First of all, that little rock was NOT floating, it was being ''bent'', and it never stopped touching the table. It doesn't need to be explained. Different levels of imbalanced emotion effect the way the elements around a bender are subtly manipulated, just like the cartoon. Mild imbalanced emotions will only be capable of manipulating ''small'' samples of elements, and even then it might be too subtle for anyone to care, ''unless you're a banished prince trying to find the master of all four elements''. On the other hand, EXTREME imbalanced emotions (like Cartoon!Zuko getting angry in a room full of candles while meditating, or Cartoon!Katara getting furious next to an iceberg or inside a room made entirely of ice) can be strong enough to cause devastation in the area if not properly managed or relaxed... Nobody knows what the purpose of the test is, otherwise Iroh wouldn't have been so secretive when explaining it to Aang. And obviously, Aang at the time would never be expected to make an anvil-sized boulder stand upright, or expand an entire bed of flames, or be the obvious cause of rippling/waves in a big bowl full of water. That's why Zuko and Iroh used ''small'' samples of elements, because those objects have more physical freedom and will therefore be easier to manipulated with mild emotion. Zuko and Iroh didn't even need the little rock to stand upright, or the little puddle of water to form into a perfect circle. They both watch the element samples closely, and even the tiniest hint of unnatural movement will show them whether someone is the Avatar or not. If the elements hadn't been bent so quickly after placed in front of him, it's safe to presume that Zuko and Iroh had already planned to provoke emotional reactions so that Aang would subconsciously bend any of the small elements. It's just lucky for them that Aang was already in a state of considerable emotional imbalance (uneasiness and confusion) from what was going on, that he bent the small elements more blatantly.


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** First of all, that little rock was NOT floating, it was being ''bent'', and it never stopped touching the table. It doesn't need to be explained. Different levels of imbalanced emotion effect the way the elements around a bender are subtly manipulated, just like the cartoon. Mild imbalanced emotions will only be capable of manipulating ''small'' samples of elements, and even then it might be too subtle for anyone to care, ''unless you're a banished prince trying to find the master of all four elements''. On the other hand, EXTREME imbalanced emotions (like Cartoon!Zuko getting angry in a room full of candles while meditating, or Cartoon!Katara getting furious next to an iceberg or inside a room made entirely of ice) can be strong enough to cause devastation in the area if not properly managed or relaxed... Nobody knows what the purpose of the test is, otherwise Iroh wouldn't have been so secretive when explaining it to Aang. And obviously, Aang at the time would never be expected to make an anvil-sized boulder stand upright, or expand an entire bed of flames, or be the obvious cause of rippling/waves in a big bowl full of water. That's why Zuko and Iroh used ''small'' samples of elements, because those objects have more physical freedom and will therefore be easier to manipulated with mild emotion. Zuko and Iroh didn't even need the little rock to stand upright, or the little puddle of water to form into a perfect circle. They both watch the element samples closely, and even the tiniest hint of unnatural movement will show them whether someone is the Avatar or not. If the elements hadn't been bent so quickly after placed in front of him, it's safe to presume that Zuko and Iroh had already planned to provoke emotional reactions so that Aang would subconsciously bend any of the small elements. It's just lucky for them that Aang was already in a state of considerable emotional imbalance (uneasiness and fearful confusion) from what was going on, that he bent the small elements more blatantly.

21st Apr '16 9:14:47 PM Dillo
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** First of all, that little rock was NOT floating, it was being ''bent'', and it never stopped touching the table. It doesn't need to be explained. Different levels of imbalanced emotion effect the way the elements around a bender are subtly manipulated, just like the cartoon. Mild imbalanced emotions will only be capable of manipulating ''small'' samples of elements, and even then it might be too subtle for anyone to care, ''unless you're a banished prince trying to find the master of all four elements''. On the other hand, EXTREME imbalanced emotions (like Cartoon!Zuko getting angry in a room full of candles while meditating, or Cartoon!Katara getting furious next to an iceberg or inside a room made entirely of ice) can be strong enough to cause devastation in the area if not properly managed ... Nobody knows what the purpose of the test is, otherwise Iroh wouldn't have been so secretive when explaining it to Aang. And obviously, Aang at the time would never be expected to make an anvil-sized boulder stand upright, or expand an entire bed of flames, or be the obvious cause of rippling/waves in a big bowl full of water. That's why Zuko and Iroh used ''small'' samples of elements, because those objects have more physical freedom and will therefore be easier to manipulated with mild emotion. Zuko and Iroh didn't even need the little rock to stand upright, or the little puddle of water to form into a perfect circle. They both watch the element samples closely, and even the tiniest hint of unnatural movement will show them whether someone is the Avatar or not. If the elements hadn't been bent so quickly after placed in front of him, it's safe to presume that Zuko and Iroh had already planned to provoke emotional reactions so that Aang would subconsciously bend any of the small elements. It's just lucky for them that Aang was already in a state of considerable emotional imbalance (uneasiness and confusion) from what was going on, that he bent the small elements more blatantly.


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** First of all, that little rock was NOT floating, it was being ''bent'', and it never stopped touching the table. It doesn't need to be explained. Different levels of imbalanced emotion effect the way the elements around a bender are subtly manipulated, just like the cartoon. Mild imbalanced emotions will only be capable of manipulating ''small'' samples of elements, and even then it might be too subtle for anyone to care, ''unless you're a banished prince trying to find the master of all four elements''. On the other hand, EXTREME imbalanced emotions (like Cartoon!Zuko getting angry in a room full of candles while meditating, or Cartoon!Katara getting furious next to an iceberg or inside a room made entirely of ice) can be strong enough to cause devastation in the area if not properly managed ...managed or relaxed... Nobody knows what the purpose of the test is, otherwise Iroh wouldn't have been so secretive when explaining it to Aang. And obviously, Aang at the time would never be expected to make an anvil-sized boulder stand upright, or expand an entire bed of flames, or be the obvious cause of rippling/waves in a big bowl full of water. That's why Zuko and Iroh used ''small'' samples of elements, because those objects have more physical freedom and will therefore be easier to manipulated with mild emotion. Zuko and Iroh didn't even need the little rock to stand upright, or the little puddle of water to form into a perfect circle. They both watch the element samples closely, and even the tiniest hint of unnatural movement will show them whether someone is the Avatar or not. If the elements hadn't been bent so quickly after placed in front of him, it's safe to presume that Zuko and Iroh had already planned to provoke emotional reactions so that Aang would subconsciously bend any of the small elements. It's just lucky for them that Aang was already in a state of considerable emotional imbalance (uneasiness and confusion) from what was going on, that he bent the small elements more blatantly.

21st Apr '16 9:09:11 PM Dillo
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** First of all, that little rock was NOT floating, it was being ''bent'', and it never stopped touching the table. It doesn't need to be explained. Different levels of imbalanced emotion effect the way the elements around a bender are subtly manipulated, just like the cartoon. Mild imbalanced emotions will only be capable of manipulating ''small'' samples of elements, and even then it might be too subtle for anyone to care, ''unless you're a banished prince trying to find the master of all four elements''. On the other hand, EXTREME imbalanced emotions (like Cartoon!Zuko getting angry in a room full of candles while meditating, or Cartoon!Katara getting furious next to an iceberg or in an entire room made of ice) can be strong enough to cause devastation in the area if not properly managed ... Nobody knows what the purpose of the test is, otherwise Iroh wouldn't have been so secretive when explaining it to Aang. And obviously, Aang at the time would never be expected to make an anvil-sized boulder stand upright, or expand an entire bed of flames, or be the obvious cause of rippling/waves in a big bowl full of water. That's why Zuko and Iroh used ''small'' samples of elements, because those objects have more physical freedom and will therefore be easier to manipulated with mild emotion. Zuko and Iroh didn't even need the little rock to stand upright, or the little puddle of water to form into a perfect circle. They both watch the element samples closely, and even the tiniest hint of unnatural movement will show them whether someone is the Avatar or not. If the elements hadn't been bent so quickly after placed in front of him, it's safe to presume that Zuko and Iroh had already planned to provoke emotional reactions so that Aang would subconsciously bend any of the small elements. It's just lucky for them that Aang was already in a state of considerable emotional imbalance (uneasiness and confusion) from what was going on, that he bent the small elements more blatantly.


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** First of all, that little rock was NOT floating, it was being ''bent'', and it never stopped touching the table. It doesn't need to be explained. Different levels of imbalanced emotion effect the way the elements around a bender are subtly manipulated, just like the cartoon. Mild imbalanced emotions will only be capable of manipulating ''small'' samples of elements, and even then it might be too subtle for anyone to care, ''unless you're a banished prince trying to find the master of all four elements''. On the other hand, EXTREME imbalanced emotions (like Cartoon!Zuko getting angry in a room full of candles while meditating, or Cartoon!Katara getting furious next to an iceberg or in an entire inside a room made entirely of ice) can be strong enough to cause devastation in the area if not properly managed ... Nobody knows what the purpose of the test is, otherwise Iroh wouldn't have been so secretive when explaining it to Aang. And obviously, Aang at the time would never be expected to make an anvil-sized boulder stand upright, or expand an entire bed of flames, or be the obvious cause of rippling/waves in a big bowl full of water. That's why Zuko and Iroh used ''small'' samples of elements, because those objects have more physical freedom and will therefore be easier to manipulated with mild emotion. Zuko and Iroh didn't even need the little rock to stand upright, or the little puddle of water to form into a perfect circle. They both watch the element samples closely, and even the tiniest hint of unnatural movement will show them whether someone is the Avatar or not. If the elements hadn't been bent so quickly after placed in front of him, it's safe to presume that Zuko and Iroh had already planned to provoke emotional reactions so that Aang would subconsciously bend any of the small elements. It's just lucky for them that Aang was already in a state of considerable emotional imbalance (uneasiness and confusion) from what was going on, that he bent the small elements more blatantly.

21st Apr '16 9:07:20 PM Dillo
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** It doesn't need to be explained. We see shots of Aang acknowledging the objects placed in front of him, and he is nervous/uneasy as he looks at the objects, so we can easily assume that the emotions cause the uneasy manipulation. That's no different from the show: where Show!Zuko's anger alone caused candles to erupt...Plus, those 3 objects were ''tiny'', so they could easily be manipulated by a child/beginner.
*** So why didn't Ong subconsciously manipulate the water he was having trouble with "for some reason"? Or the Earth that he was staring at a good few times, namely during his RousingSpeech? Consistency?
*** He did subconsciously manipulate water, multiple times - at least in the Northern Earth Kingdom and the Water Tribe City, both during moments of his training where he was in emotional turmoil, uncertain of himself, and nervous. When he gave his speech to the Earthbenders it was just the opposite - he was very confident in himself and used his determination to motivate his allies. It is consistent.
*** So...what exactly was Aang "uncertain about" when he was being tested by Eeroh and Zuko that caused him to subconsciously manipulate the elements placed in front of him?
*** The movie isn't that consistent. There are several points where Aang clearly isn't that confident (not to mention Katara constantly looking like she's about to cry) without the same effect. Besides that we have ''no idea'' why Iroh actually thought that the test would work in the first place. It's clearly shown that they were expecting an old man experienced in at least air bending. Why would they expect a trained and mature Avatar to be nervous around a teenager and his ineffectual uncle? Also they mention that they've performed this specific test on people in the past, so they clearly expect this test to be able to determine if he is the Avatar or not. But there's no reason ever given for why this test would absolutely determine the truth. Are the rock, candle and water spiritual somehow? Where did they come from in the first place? All we're left with is either an incomprehensible scene or the implication that the hero is an idiot.

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** First of all, that little rock was NOT floating, it was being ''bent'', and it never stopped touching the table. It doesn't need to be explained. We see shots Different levels of imbalanced emotion effect the way the elements around a bender are subtly manipulated, just like the cartoon. Mild imbalanced emotions will only be capable of manipulating ''small'' samples of elements, and even then it might be too subtle for anyone to care, ''unless you're a banished prince trying to find the master of all four elements''. On the other hand, EXTREME imbalanced emotions (like Cartoon!Zuko getting angry in a room full of candles while meditating, or Cartoon!Katara getting furious next to an iceberg or in an entire room made of ice) can be strong enough to cause devastation in the area if not properly managed ... Nobody knows what the purpose of the test is, otherwise Iroh wouldn't have been so secretive when explaining it to Aang. And obviously, Aang acknowledging at the time would never be expected to make an anvil-sized boulder stand upright, or expand an entire bed of flames, or be the obvious cause of rippling/waves in a big bowl full of water. That's why Zuko and Iroh used ''small'' samples of elements, because those objects have more physical freedom and will therefore be easier to manipulated with mild emotion. Zuko and Iroh didn't even need the little rock to stand upright, or the little puddle of water to form into a perfect circle. They both watch the element samples closely, and even the tiniest hint of unnatural movement will show them whether someone is the Avatar or not. If the elements hadn't been bent so quickly after placed in front of him, and he is nervous/uneasy as he looks at the objects, so we can easily assume it's safe to presume that the emotions cause the uneasy manipulation. That's no different from the show: where Show!Zuko's anger alone caused candles Zuko and Iroh had already planned to erupt...Plus, those 3 objects were ''tiny'', provoke emotional reactions so they could easily be manipulated by a child/beginner.
*** So why didn't Ong
that Aang would subconsciously manipulate bend any of the water he was having trouble with "for some reason"? Or the Earth small elements. It's just lucky for them that he Aang was staring at a good few times, namely during his RousingSpeech? Consistency?
*** He did subconsciously manipulate water, multiple times - at least
already in the Northern Earth Kingdom and the Water Tribe City, both during moments a state of his training where he was in considerable emotional turmoil, uncertain of himself, imbalance (uneasiness and nervous. When he gave his speech to the Earthbenders it was just the opposite - he was very confident in himself and used his determination to motivate his allies. It is consistent.
*** So...
confusion) from what exactly was Aang "uncertain about" when he was being tested by Eeroh and Zuko going on, that caused him to subconsciously manipulate he bent the small elements placed in front of him?
*** The movie isn't that consistent. There are several points where Aang clearly isn't that confident (not to mention Katara constantly looking like she's about to cry) without the same effect. Besides that we have ''no idea'' why Iroh actually thought that the test would work in the first place. It's clearly shown that they were expecting an old man experienced in at least air bending. Why would they expect a trained and mature Avatar to be nervous around a teenager and his ineffectual uncle? Also they mention that they've performed this specific test on people in the past, so they clearly expect this test to be able to determine if he is the Avatar or not. But there's no reason ever given for why this test would absolutely determine the truth. Are the rock, candle and water spiritual somehow? Where did they come from in the first place? All we're left with is either an incomprehensible scene or the implication that the hero is an idiot.
more blatantly.

1st Apr '15 8:59:12 PM GrantMK2
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*** The movie isn't that consistent. There are several points where Aang clearly isn't that confident (not to mention Katara constantly looking like she's about to cry) without the same effect. Besides that we have ''no idea'' why Iroh actually thought that the test would work in the first place. It's clearly shown that they were expecting an old man experienced in at least air bending. Why would they expect a trained and mature Avatar to be nervous around a teenager and his ineffectual uncle? Also they mention that have performed this specific test on people in the past, so they clearly expect this test to be able to determine if he is the Avatar or not. But there's no reason ever given for why this test would absolutely determine the truth. Are the rock, candle and water spiritual somehow? Where did they come from in the first place? All we're left with is either an incomprehensible scene or the implication that the hero is an idiot.

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*** The movie isn't that consistent. There are several points where Aang clearly isn't that confident (not to mention Katara constantly looking like she's about to cry) without the same effect. Besides that we have ''no idea'' why Iroh actually thought that the test would work in the first place. It's clearly shown that they were expecting an old man experienced in at least air bending. Why would they expect a trained and mature Avatar to be nervous around a teenager and his ineffectual uncle? Also they mention that have they've performed this specific test on people in the past, so they clearly expect this test to be able to determine if he is the Avatar or not. But there's no reason ever given for why this test would absolutely determine the truth. Are the rock, candle and water spiritual somehow? Where did they come from in the first place? All we're left with is either an incomprehensible scene or the implication that the hero is an idiot.
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