History Headscratchers / TheIncredibles

* Why was Gazorbeam wearing his costume at the wedding?

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* How did Gazerbeam find out about operation Kronos, and that it was a password? And what made Bob know to look where Gazerbeam's skull was facing? As he decayed, shouldn't the eyeline have fallen, if nothing else?

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* In the Jack Jack shirt it is revealed that Syndrome showed up to the Incredibles house to steal Jack Jack. So it looks as if it is noon when he arrives and it looks like the sun is going down when the Incredibles. So my question is what was syndrome doing with Jack Jack? When they arrive Syndrome has put Jack Jack to sleep, so it implies that he was good at looking after him.

Another point to consider is that most superheroes found by Mirage are the ones secretly going around engaging in clandestine acts of vigilantism and superheroics -- and, therefore, prominent enough to show up on Mirage's radar, and therefore on Syndrome's radar. Regardless whether Mirage is a good investigator or not, she doesn't even need those abilities to find said Supers.

** First, they don't know why Syndrome became a supervillain. Second, justifying a law because there was this one time under exceptional circumstances where having such a law was beneficial is...not a good argument (notably, the debate on anti-encryption and surveilance laws in our world). After all, said anti-super laws had allowed Syndrome to pick off supers one by one. If Mr. Incredible had still rejected Buddy but the laws never happened, then Syndrome would have had to use his GadgeteerGenius skills either to become a hero on his own or become a jealous supervillain anyway.

* When Bob holds Mirage hostage, what exactly was Syndrome going to do? If he lets Bob out, there's a huge risk that Bob will kick his ass and ruin his entire plan. And if he sincerely believes that Bob is willing to kill Mirage, who's to say he won't end up killing her anyway after he's free? Sure, Syndrome was still an ass to Mirage afterward, but tactically speaking he made the right call and Mirage should have recognized that.

** Yes, Bob is projecting his own issues onto Helen. He's upset that he can't get thanks for saving people, but Dash gets a ceremy for what is essentially a very low bar that everyone is expected to be able to pass.

* What did the government do about all the supers who emerged after the heroes were forcibly retired? It's never made clear what causes people to gain superpowers in this world, although it is heavily implied to be genetic, which would make most, if not all, of the known supers mutants, like the X-Men. The government can ban superheroics, but the Parr children are evidence that new supers are regularly being born into a world where they have no peer group to serve as mentors and are stigmatized to hide their abilities under the threat of government sanction. There may be a whole army of closeted supers with Jack-Jack level god-tier powers just waiting for that one bad day.....

Kinda makes Syndrome and the Underminer look like a couple of speed bumps, doesn't it?

** The Omnidroid managed to hit the shield and bend/warp the shere enough to bonk Violet on the head, which caused her to lose concentration. Sci-fi purple aside, it's not much different from someone holding an actual wooden or metal shield. Someone punches it, the guy punching would probably get a broken fist. Step in front of a speeding 18 wheeler and you sure as hell won't being holding onto that shield anymore.

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* She's not shown exhibiting any powers in the movie, but in the recording sent to Mr Incredible, she says: "According to the government, ''neither of us exist''!" Was that just part of the ruse to draw him in, or did she actually mean something by that?

** Note that even 'ordinary' materials can be decievingly strong. Isadora Duncan, for instance, died when her car crashed. The reason her car crashed was because her excessively long scarf got caught in the wheels of said car and broke her neck.
** The real reason for the NO CAPES is because animating capes is a pain and thus the writers put in this justification so they wouldn't have to put capes on everyone since being a superhero IP it would be expected. The in universe justification is easily solved by simply the addition of a breakaway clasp on all capes. Capes can serve practical purposes such as providing a larger target, aiding in flight for those superheroes capable of it, acting as weapon storage, and allowing for gliding among other reasons.

* How exactly did Mr Incredible's lawyer manage to lose that case? (Attempted) suicide is illegal in America, heroes seem to have government mandate to apprehend criminals (and violently). Therefore in saving the jumper Mr Incredible was simply performing a regular act of heroism, foiling a felony in progress and therefore the jumper should have zero claim against him.

** Dash didn't express interest in anything other than track. Honestly, it seemed that Dash wanted to participate partially just to feel smug (can't blame him - what 10 year old wouldn't?) and partially because he found running cathartic (likely contributing to his acting out and placing a tack on his teacher's chair in the first place).

* Why does Mirage give Mr Incredible that last bit of advice--the warning about the Omnidroid's learning abilities--just before he gets airdropped onto Syndrome's island? She knew Syndrome wanted him dead, so that seems a bit counter-intuitive.
** Syndrome didn't just want Incredible dead; he also wanted the omnidroid to be the best it could possibly be, which means giving it a real challenge. We know from the slideshow Mr. I stumbled upon sometimes the Super wins. If that happens, Syndrome needs to be able to test the new, improved droid against the same guy, which would be difficult to do if the guy is saying "Hey, you didn't warn me about how smart that damn robot was! You could have got me killed! I quit!"

** Big difference between killing someone in a fit of rage and killing someone because someone else dared you to. Remember what Syndrome said when Mr Incredible claimed it would be easy to kill Mirage right there: "Show me." As soon as he realized what he was doing, he couldn't do it anymore.

* Why does Syndrome conclude that the Omnidroid V.10 is perfected and able to beat Mr Incredible/any super? Maybe it could, but the only 'proof' is because it took him by ''completely'' surprise and did not give him a chance to fight it.
** Syndrome probably viewed Mr Incredible as the best of the Supers, so anything that could jump in and beat him up would be good enough to handle any lesser heroes. He was probably right, too; Frozone is the only Super aside from the Incredibles who shows up, and he barely even slows the Omnidroid v10 down.

** Kronos is the Omnidroid, the children he eats are the superheroes, and Syndrome intends to become Zeus by overthrowing the Omnidroid and so taking the throne of the supers. Or Mr Incredible is Kronos, the father-figure who tried to suppress his son's abilities and was ultimately overthrown by him.

** Timezones. Just because an Australian is currently sleeping doesn't mean an American is not enjoying lunch at the same moment.

* When Helen calls the house to figure out what's happened after Violet and Dash followed her onto the plane, she still enroute to Nomanisan, and the plane gets shot down shortly after she hangs up. How, then, was Kari able to leave messages for Helen if the phone used in the initial conversation was destroyed almost immediately after it was used?

** Probably for the same reasons they don't let Dash play sports -- ssooner or later, his super-strength ''will'' be used, he'll give himself away, and there'll be legal problems. The job at Insuricare is probably the most the NSA could get away with to satisfy Bob's wants.

** Superpowered people acting as heroes are banned. They obviously are't banning super powers because that would be like banning a hair color. They're obviously not banning the supers themselves because Bob and his family are living where they normally would.

* Taking out all superheroes and making them obsolete because you got rejected by your idol is...pretty extreme. That's like thinking all celebrities are jerkwads after meeting one.

*** The fun of supervillainy isn't from fighting heroes, but making people suffer. [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Picture the image of a boot stomping on a face, forever]].

** Alternate theory 2: Any supervillains with actual superpowers (if there were any) got wasted by Syndrome's robots. Syndrome didn't just hate superheroes, he hated people with superpowers. If he kills heroes, why wouldn't he kill villains as well?