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18th Mar '17 8:09:09 AM MugaSofer
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*** I'm pretty sure all the suits have the same "basic features" as Jack-Jack's. Edna seemed astounded that Mr Incredible managed to damage his old suit.


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** None of the other super in the NSA files had invisibility as a power (the closest is Meta Man, who had "partial invisibility" among a half-dozen others.) It's possible that there simply aren't enough supers in the Incredibles universe for invisibility to have popped up before.


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** It doesn't really matter what Syndrome's motivation was. What matters is that he's a very visible reminder that some (admittedly rare) threats are too much for the government to handle. Plus saving the city made the heroes look really good - are you really going to crack down on them now?


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** Syndrome wasn't powerful enough to defeat his own robot. I think that proves pretty conclusively that the offensive potential of his tech vastly outstrips the defensive potential. Would you want to live in a world filled with battling super-robots while civilians are constantly forced to flee?


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* Maybe their "day job" cover stories had them working for the National Supers Agency. That would easily explain their friendships with people like Rick Dicker, and allow them to superhero mostly full-time (the government is paying them for this, remember.)


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** He has a lot of pracice throwing things, since it's such an obvious application of his power. Plus, according to the DVD extras he has SpiderSense, so maybe he would have known if i was going to hit her.


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** Or Mr Incredible is Kronos, the father-figure who tried to suppress his son's abilities and was ultimately overthrown by him.
18th Mar '17 7:26:08 AM MugaSofer
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*** There's no evidence that wing-capes have been invented in the Incredibles universe, though. They're more a DC thing. Dynaguy and Syndrome both used those tiny rockets to fly.


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*** He would have had a hard time fighting crime with superheroes banned. If he really wanted to live that dream, he needed to engineer a disaster so large the ppublic would HAVE to turn to heroes for help. Abhorrent, but logical.


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*** In fact, Buddy points out that "not all supers have powers, you know!", so clearly there ARE tech-based superheroes operating.


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*** Martian Manhunter is another well-known hero who uses this excuse. Still, if his powers are "total control of his molecular structure" and "energy generation (any kind)", he basiclly has every power.
18th Mar '17 7:07:08 AM MugaSofer
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** There's no reason why a power to create spherical forcefields should imply generalized TK, any more than being able to shoot lasers from your eyes implies you can shoot radio waves from your hands, or being able to see "implies" you're clairvoyant. Just because something COULD be an application of a more general power doesn't mean it IS. Besides, all the others have secondary abiliies too - Dash's reactions accelerate to keep up with his speed and he's immune to friction, Elastagirl clearly has low-level superstrength, and Bob has a danger sense accordig to the DVD extras. And don't even get me started on Jack-Jack.


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** It's canon that the government had Mr Incredible's super-car and (in Jack-Jack Attack) a memory-wiping device, so they must have some super-scientists on the payroll. Besides, didn't Syndrome say he was selling his technology to governments?
12th Mar '17 11:43:11 PM dmeagher13
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[[folder: Where did all the supervillians go when the heroes went into hiding?]]
* It's established that, prior to the implementation to the Superhero relocation program, there were numerous supervillians running around whom the heroes regularly went up against. Given that their villains, it's unlikely that they would have gone along with any government registration and relocation program; instead, it's more likely that they would have taken the opportunity to wreak havoc with no one to oppose them. How did the government ensure that there would be no more supervillian activity after the heroes went into hiding?
12th Mar '17 11:32:23 PM dmeagher13
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[[folder: Where did all the supervillians go when the heroes went into hiding?]]
* It's established that, prior to the implementation to the Superhero relocation program, there were numerous supervillians running around whom the heroes regularly went up against. Given that their villains, it's unlikely that they would have gone along with any government registration and relocation program; instead, it's more likely that they would have taken the opportunity to wreak havoc with no one to oppose them. How did the government ensure that there would be no more supervillian activity after the heroes went into hiding?
21st Feb '17 3:57:14 PM Kypie27
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*** First stage of grief is denial, the second stage is anger.
21st Feb '17 3:46:55 PM Kypie27
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21st Feb '17 3:13:05 PM Kypie27
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** When Mirage is shown on the tablet Bob receives, she seems to have some effect on the video when he moves the tablet back and forth (that's how I interpreted it anyway). I've always thought her powers were similar to Violets, but unlike Violet, who can disappear completely, Mirage can only make herself and her surroundings difficult to interpret and focus on. It works similarly to how a herd of zebras uses camouflage. It's a subtler superpower, so straight-up crime fighting probably won’t be her first career choice, but it's still a metahuman ability, therefore, she's classified as a super. Fridge brilliance: This could be why she's the one sent to track down superheros to fight the Omnidroid.
13th Feb '17 9:21:16 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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* This seems to go over a lot of people's heads; Syndrome didn't turn evil ''because'' of being rejected as "Incrediboy". Being rejected is his ''excuse'' for becoming Syndrome. Really, he's just a petty, selfish, twisted little troll who can't stand not getting his way. I hate to make use of any argument that equates to InsaneEqualsViolent, but Syndrome is clearly ''unstable'' to begin with. He uses the rejection as an excuse for what he's doing, but of course it rings hollow; he ''has'' no reason to do what he does, he's just a villain trying to invoke a FreudianExcuse. The alarming thing is how many people seem to actually buy it.

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* ** This seems to go over a lot of people's heads; Syndrome didn't turn evil ''because'' of being rejected as "Incrediboy". Being rejected is his ''excuse'' for becoming Syndrome. Really, he's just a petty, selfish, twisted little troll who can't stand not getting his way. I hate to make use of any argument that equates to InsaneEqualsViolent, but Syndrome is clearly ''unstable'' to begin with. He uses the rejection as an excuse for what he's doing, but of course it rings hollow; he ''has'' no reason to do what he does, he's just a villain trying to invoke a FreudianExcuse. The alarming thing is how many people seem to actually buy it.it.
** I think it's somewhere in the middle...Buddy became a villain because he genuinely ''did'' believe in his excuse, but he believed it largely based on his misinterpretation of Mr. Incredible's words to him ("You can't help me because it's dangerous, and you're still a kid; now please go home and let me do my job.") as something entirely different. ("You can't help me because you're a normal person who doesn't have powers; therefore, I don't like you, so go away.")
10th Feb '17 3:11:39 AM pmb1998
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*** Genetics are a little more complicated than just "if any of your parents or grandparents had this trait, you can have it too." When it comes to hair color, general rule of thumb is that you can have the same or lighter, but never darker hair color than one of your parents. It's possible for blonde woman and black-haired man to have child with black hair or for two dark-haired to have blonde child, but blond-haired Mr. Incredible and his readhead wife can't have a daughter who is brunette.
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