History Headscratchers / TheIncredibles

6th Feb '18 12:10:11 PM sugaricequeen
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* This'll probably be answered in the sequel, but in the wake of Syndrome's super-killing-spree, how many of them are left in the world? Are the Parrs and Frozone the only ones who survived, or were there others that Syndrome hadn't gotten to yet? (Since he was originally ''going'' to recruit Frozone until he realized that Mirage had found Mr. Incredible.)
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26th Jan '18 6:34:08 PM nombretomado
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*** The above explanation deserves a MadeOfWin imho.

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*** The above explanation deserves a MadeOfWin JustForFun/MadeOfWin imho.
9th Jan '18 8:55:04 AM Tightwire
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* When it comes to Superman, how often would a real person see him? You see that perfect jaw and heroic stance while maybe he's beating up some super-criminals while you cower in a corner, then he flies away. Clark Kent acts cowardly and slouches, and he's just a common newspaper reporter who doesn't do anything special at all. If nobody knows or cares who Bob Parr is, how will they connect him to Mr Incredible? Unfortunately he's starting to get tense because his boss is a jerk.



** He didn't freeze the officer solid, he covered him in ice. If the other cops broke it off quickly, he might have a mild burn at worst.

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** He didn't freeze the officer solid, he covered him in ice. If the other cops broke it off quickly, he might have a mild burn ice-burn at worst.
8th Jan '18 6:03:42 PM Historian1912
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*** He would have had a hard time fighting crime with superheroes banned. If he really wanted to live that dream, he needed to engineer a disaster so large the ppublic would HAVE to turn to heroes for help. Abhorrent, but logical.

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*** He would have had a hard time fighting crime with superheroes banned. If he really wanted to live that dream, he needed to engineer a disaster so large the ppublic public would HAVE to turn to heroes for help. Abhorrent, but logical.
22nd Dec '17 5:04:49 PM lorgskyegon
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*** Dash took his and Violet's costumes, but Helen shut them out before he could grab the masks. So they were still in the bag.
22nd Dec '17 1:49:15 PM lorgskyegon
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*** This seems correct. Edna specifically says that she didn't know Jack-Jack's powers, so she "covered the basics". That would seem to imply that all suits that she makes have those features. Supers may require something special based on their powers (As Helen, Dash, and Violet do), may get something extra. Someone like Bob (and maybe Lucius) wouldn't.
20th Dec '17 1:22:58 PM ike755
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***Yes they do. "Incredible's court losses cost the government millions..."



** That assumes that the facts were in dispute (which does not appear to be the case). Juries are meant to decide questions of fact, not law. If the facts of a case are not in dispute, only the applicable law, a party (usually the defendant) may submit a Motion for [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summary_judgment/ Summary Judgment]]. If the motion is granted, the judge will rule immediately without a trial. After all, if there is nothing for the factfinder to decide, why have a trial?



*** And this demonstrates that law is VERY different in the world of The Incredibles when compared to our world. In the US, you CANNOT sue the government or any agent thereof for performing their proper duty (which in this case would be taking the required steps to deal with the threats created by supervillains), under the principle of Sovereign Immunity. (You CAN sue them for doing something either outright illegal or that the specific agency/individual has no authority to do.) Even in instances where fatalities occur because of shody work, you cannot sue. (There were instances of early model F16s crashing because of bad design decisions in the avionics compartments. The survivors couild not sue the manufacturer or the government because of this reason.)

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*** And this demonstrates that law is VERY different in the world of The Incredibles when compared to our world. In the US, you CANNOT sue the government or any agent thereof for performing their proper duty (which in this case would be taking the required steps to deal with the threats created by supervillains), under the principle of Sovereign Immunity. (You CAN sue them for doing something either outright illegal or that the specific agency/individual has no authority to do.) Even in instances where fatalities occur because of shody shoddy work, you cannot sue. (There were instances of early model F16s crashing because of bad design decisions in the avionics compartments. The survivors couild could not sue the manufacturer or the government because of this reason.)
16th Dec '17 8:42:30 AM SeptimusHeap
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*** ''Is'' it? Because in the movie proper, all of Jack-Jack's powers were based on shapeshifting (super-advanced [[Comicbook/{{X-Men}} Apocalypse-style]] shapeshifting, anyway) but in Jack-Jack Attack, his power was "unlimited [[Main/NewPowersAsThePlotDemands New Powers As The]] [[Main/RuleOfFunny Rule Of Funny Demands]]."

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*** ''Is'' it? Because in the movie proper, all of Jack-Jack's powers were based on shapeshifting (super-advanced [[Comicbook/{{X-Men}} [[Comicbook/XMen Apocalypse-style]] shapeshifting, anyway) but in Jack-Jack Attack, his power was "unlimited [[Main/NewPowersAsThePlotDemands New Powers As The]] [[Main/RuleOfFunny Rule Of Funny Demands]]."



** Personally, I just think that's the last hurrah in Pixar's (fairly obvious) love letter to Marvel. Jack-Jack has shown that he has the same or similar powers to (among many) [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Johnny Storm]], [[Comicbook/{{X-Men}} Colossus, Shadowcat, Cyclops, Nightcrawler,]], and he turns ''into'' ComicBook/{{Hellboy}}. (The last one's not Marvel, but do you see what I mean?)

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** Personally, I just think that's the last hurrah in Pixar's (fairly obvious) love letter to Marvel. Jack-Jack has shown that he has the same or similar powers to (among many) [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Johnny Storm]], [[Comicbook/{{X-Men}} [[Comicbook/XMen Colossus, Shadowcat, Cyclops, Nightcrawler,]], and he turns ''into'' ComicBook/{{Hellboy}}. (The last one's not Marvel, but do you see what I mean?)
13th Dec '17 11:38:31 PM sugaricequeen
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** Most likely, Kari had a different phone number that she'd been using to try to get in touch with Helen, which Helen either didn't have with her or was too busy to answer. (It may've been in the bag she brought with her, and we don't see the bag after Dash and Violet leave the cave.) And there are ways to access your voicemail from other phones.
13th Dec '17 11:35:05 PM sugaricequeen
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** I don't think the film ever stated that the family expected him to be powerless. (Did they?) When Violet brought their attention to it, she was only pointing out that he was still "normal" as he was now. Although it does add some implications to their leaving him with an unknowing babysitter.
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