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** No doubt it also helps that Stephen Colbert has created and uses a clearly somewhat exaggerated fictional persona in his show, while Jon Stewart presents ''The Daily Show'' more or less as himself. The fact that the fictional Colbert is clearly a satirical character and a parody means that, although the real Colbert uses him to express his sincerely-held views there is nevertheless still a disconnect in the minds of viewers between the views of Stephen Colbert, fictional character, and the views of Stephen Colbert, real person, whereas Stewart doesn't really have this luxury. Sort of like how we can accept, say, WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic getting exaggeratedly over-the-top and vitriolic about the things he's watching because he's very obviously an over-the-top and vitriolic character, whereas if we were watching the actor doing the same as himself it would look like he's just lacking in perspective; the fact that he's fictional means the audience is likely to give more leeway than someone who is doing similar as him-or-herself.
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** No doubt it also helps that Stephen Colbert has created and uses a clearly somewhat exaggerated fictional persona in his show, while Jon Stewart presents ''The Daily Show'' more or less as himself. The fact that the fictional Colbert is clearly a satirical character and a parody means that, although the real Colbert uses him to express his sincerely-held views there is nevertheless still a disconnect in the minds of viewers between the views of Stephen Colbert, fictional character, and the views of Stephen Colbert, real person, whereas Stewart doesn't really have this luxury. Sort of like how we can accept, say, WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic getting exaggeratedly over-the-top and vitriolic about the things he's watching because he's very obviously an over-the-top and vitriolic character, whereas if we were watching the actor Creator/DougWalker doing the same as himself it would look like he's just lacking in perspective; the fact that he's fictional means the audience is likely to give more leeway than someone who is doing similar as him-or-herself.
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** No doubt it also helps that Stephen Colbert has created and uses a clearly somewhat exaggerated fictional persona in his show, while Jon Stewart presents ''The Daily Show'' more or less as himself. The fact that the fictional Colbert is clearly a satirical character and a parody means that, although the real Colbert uses him to express his sincerely-held views there is nevertheless still a disconnect in the minds of viewers between the views of Stephen Colbert, fictional character, and the views of Stephen Colbert, real person, whereas Stewart doesn't really have this luxury. Sort of like how we can accept, say, WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic getting exaggeratedly over-the-top and vitriolic about the things he's watching because he's very obviously an over-the-top and vitriolic character, whereas if we were watching the actor doing the same as himself it would look like he's just lacking in perspective; the fact that he's fictional means the audience is likely to give more leeway than someone who is doing similar as him-or-herself.
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** Because though Stephen often parodies the political right and espouses his liberal beliefs in a backhanded way, the focus on comedy and self-deprecation of his character makes the real Stephen implicitly very tongue in cheek about his position. He tends to report conservative viewpoints AND their justifications for them, so he's less likely to be found guilty of critical bias.
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* Why is it that Jon Stewart is called out on his ( admittedly easily noticed) liberal bias, but Stephen isn't? I respect both men greatly, but it can just very grating.
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* This goes for TheDailyShow as well: why do the clips on the Report's website not have the theme song? It doesn't help that Viacom is extremely zealous towards their content, so any Website/YouTube video of the theme song would be removed at lightning speed.
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** Because until he did that bit, I had never heard the word Super PAC before, and neither had many of his viewers. Now, we all know what one is, how they work, and all the many ways that they can be unethically utilized. Education!
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** Because until he did that bit, I had never heard the word Super PAC before, and neither had many of his viewers. Now, we all know what one is, how they work, and all the many ways that they can be unethically utilized. Education!In the same way, I wouldn't know that it costs $5,000 to get on the Republican ballot in South Carolina if he hadn't tried to run for President. Sometimes, the only way to get accurate information about this stuff and then have people believe it is to try it yourself and film the results.
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** Because until he did that bit, I had never heard the word Super PAC before, and neither had many of his viewers. Now, we all know what one is, how they work, and all the many ways that they can be unethically utilized. Education!
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* What is the point of his Super PAC? Is he doing it just to troll the FEC? I can imagine that any money recieved will go to charity, but why bother with all this in the first place?
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* What is the point of his Super PAC? Is he doing it just to troll the FEC? I can imagine that any money recieved received will go to charity, but why bother with all this in the first place?
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** Because he is attempting to make a point. It is evident that he believes that Super PACs are a bad idea and allowing an organization to accumulate infinite funds without reporting where the money comes from or putting any restrictions on how it is spent is a bad idea. But just saying something is a bad idea doesn't cause people to listen. So, he's demonstrating just how bad an idea it is. As mentioned above, it's the same reason he asks people to mess with Wikipedia. He thinks it's a bad idea for everyone to take its word as law when anyone can edit it. So, he demonstrates just how false articles can be.
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** Because he is attempting to make a point. It is evident that he believes that Super PACs [=PACs=] are a bad idea and allowing an organization to accumulate infinite funds without reporting where the money comes from or putting any restrictions on how it is spent is a bad idea. But just saying something is a bad idea doesn't cause people to listen. So, he's demonstrating just how bad an idea it is. As mentioned above, it's the same reason he asks people to mess with Wikipedia. He thinks it's a bad idea for everyone to take its word as law when anyone can edit it. So, he demonstrates just how false articles can be.
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**** In other words, you sincerely believe it to be correct, but in reality, you DidNotDoTheResearch and can cross over into CriticalResearchFailure depending on the belief.
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**** In other words, you sincerely believe it to be correct, but in reality, you DidNotDoTheResearch and can cross over into CriticalResearchFailure depending on the belief.
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*** As used in the rest of the media, it has a connotation of "something that was calculated to give a gut reaction of truth, but is probably a lie".
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*** As used in the rest of the media, it has a connotation of "something that was calculated to give a gut reaction of truth, but is probably a lie".
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* It bugs me that Tad the building manager suddenly disappeared. From what I remember, there wasn't even an explanation! (I assume that Paul Dinello went to work on a project elsewhere and didn't return to the show, but come on, it would've been easy to write in a few lines covering for his character, right?)
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* It bugs me that Tad the building manager suddenly disappeared. From what I remember, there wasn't even an explanation! (I assume that Paul Dinello went to work on a project elsewhere and didn't return to the show, but come on, it would've been easy to write in a few lines covering for his character, right?) right?)
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* So the thing with Col-BEAR being the character and COL-bert being the actor/comedian, is that just another layer of the joke? Because Colbert's not at all an uncommon surname, and I've never met anyone who had it and pronounced it other than how character-Stephen does.
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* So the thing with Col-BEAR being the character and COL-bert being the actor/comedian, is that just another layer of the joke? Because Colbert's not at all an uncommon surname, and I've never met anyone who had it and pronounced it other than how character-Stephen does.
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* Who else thinks that the bear in the Christmas Special should have turned out to be a goat wearing bear ears?
** I think that Stephen Colbert is familiar enough with bears to distinguish between a real one and a goat disguised as one.
*** Really? Because I have it on good authority that you can't tell.
*** No, you can tell by looking into the Bear's eyes as it tries to behead you with its massive claws. If you see the glimmer of a soul, then you are not looking at a bear. Bears are soul-less killing machines. A bear with a soul is a goat disguised as a bear. But from a distance, both should be put down as quickly as possible. DO NOT TAKE CHANCES WITH BEARS!
*** And the Feist Angel saw it too. Are you saying a messenger of God is wrong? Are you some kind of Commie?
* Why is there a banner ad on this page for "Gay Bear Dating"? (1/24/09) Are they trying to smear Stephen? Making an assumption about him based on how his [[BlackBestFriend gay friend]] is one? Or what?
** All I see is ads for Virgin Media. Clearly a foolish attempt at a smear campaign - Stephen has obviously had hundreds of girlfriends.
*** Now it's the one for a life-size, animatronic bear. Someone (coughsJON!coughs) should get one of those and leave it in Stephen's dressing room, turned on and ready to go...
**** Now I see ads to travel to Manitoba to observe bears. Stephen would already be disgusted by the idea of spending any money to observe bears, but ''Canadian bears''...!
** "Bear" is a slang word that refers to husky, hairy gay men, which some gay men find to be attractive.
*** Why are you here? Why are you reading this page? I refuse to believe you watch The Colbert Report, as that show is full of jokes.
** Thanks to this discussion, I now have an ad for a mature gay men dating site. Thanks guys.
** All's I see is an ad for the Game Show Channel with a picture of Howie Mandel.
** And I've got an ad for an All-Gay Alaskan Cruise. Anyone get the feeling we're bringing this on ourselves, by talking about it?
** Not to worry, Stephen Colbert (with Iraqi Freedom Action!) has come to the rescue!
** ... I think the AdvertisementServer has leaked into the Colbert Report...
** I got [[http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/imgad?id=CMzbx575r7rQ0AEQoAEYwgQyCJ_mLS2GHNZX an ad]] for Gay Millionaire Dating.
** All I have is an ad to guess your "real" age...wait...I knew it! The Obamanation is trying to turn us gay by slapping us with fake ages! It makes so much sense now!
** Guys, the more we mention dating gay bears in this page, the more likely we are to get ads about dating gay bears. The software that scans this page for keywords (such as 'dating', 'gay' and 'bears'), sees how much we talk about dating gay bears and decides that we are actually interested in dating gay bears. So don't use the phrase dating gay bears or we'll get even more ads about dating gay bears.
*** That's interesting, because the only ads I'm seeing on the page now (even after page renewal and leaving/returning) are for that "zoosk" site (one with males and one with females), and a Netflix ad. Maybe Adbot somehow realized that dating gay bears wasn't the point of the page, or there is some sort of tracker that can tell that people never click on the "dating gay bears" ads, so after a certain point, they stop giving people links for dating gay bears and put up ads that ''aren't'' about dating gay bears? (For the record, the word "dating" has just lost all meaning for me. "Gay bears" still puts me in mind of someone in a comically bad, high-end bear costume with a goat ears headband tackling someone from offside of the screen.) Go Adbot!
** I think that Stephen Colbert is familiar enough with bears to distinguish between a real one and a goat disguised as one.
*** Really? Because I have it on good authority that you can't tell.
*** No, you can tell by looking into the Bear's eyes as it tries to behead you with its massive claws. If you see the glimmer of a soul, then you are not looking at a bear. Bears are soul-less killing machines. A bear with a soul is a goat disguised as a bear. But from a distance, both should be put down as quickly as possible. DO NOT TAKE CHANCES WITH BEARS!
*** And the Feist Angel saw it too. Are you saying a messenger of God is wrong? Are you some kind of Commie?
* Why is there a banner ad on this page for "Gay Bear Dating"? (1/24/09) Are they trying to smear Stephen? Making an assumption about him based on how his [[BlackBestFriend gay friend]] is one? Or what?
** All I see is ads for Virgin Media. Clearly a foolish attempt at a smear campaign - Stephen has obviously had hundreds of girlfriends.
*** Now it's the one for a life-size, animatronic bear. Someone (coughsJON!coughs) should get one of those and leave it in Stephen's dressing room, turned on and ready to go...
**** Now I see ads to travel to Manitoba to observe bears. Stephen would already be disgusted by the idea of spending any money to observe bears, but ''Canadian bears''...!
** "Bear" is a slang word that refers to husky, hairy gay men, which some gay men find to be attractive.
*** Why are you here? Why are you reading this page? I refuse to believe you watch The Colbert Report, as that show is full of jokes.
** Thanks to this discussion, I now have an ad for a mature gay men dating site. Thanks guys.
** All's I see is an ad for the Game Show Channel with a picture of Howie Mandel.
** And I've got an ad for an All-Gay Alaskan Cruise. Anyone get the feeling we're bringing this on ourselves, by talking about it?
** Not to worry, Stephen Colbert (with Iraqi Freedom Action!) has come to the rescue!
** ... I think the AdvertisementServer has leaked into the Colbert Report...
** I got [[http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/imgad?id=CMzbx575r7rQ0AEQoAEYwgQyCJ_mLS2GHNZX an ad]] for Gay Millionaire Dating.
** All I have is an ad to guess your "real" age...wait...I knew it! The Obamanation is trying to turn us gay by slapping us with fake ages! It makes so much sense now!
** Guys, the more we mention dating gay bears in this page, the more likely we are to get ads about dating gay bears. The software that scans this page for keywords (such as 'dating', 'gay' and 'bears'), sees how much we talk about dating gay bears and decides that we are actually interested in dating gay bears. So don't use the phrase dating gay bears or we'll get even more ads about dating gay bears.
*** That's interesting, because the only ads I'm seeing on the page now (even after page renewal and leaving/returning) are for that "zoosk" site (one with males and one with females), and a Netflix ad. Maybe Adbot somehow realized that dating gay bears wasn't the point of the page, or there is some sort of tracker that can tell that people never click on the "dating gay bears" ads, so after a certain point, they stop giving people links for dating gay bears and put up ads that ''aren't'' about dating gay bears? (For the record, the word "dating" has just lost all meaning for me. "Gay bears" still puts me in mind of someone in a comically bad, high-end bear costume with a goat ears headband tackling someone from offside of the screen.) Go Adbot!
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** Because he is attempting to make a point. It is evident that he believes that Super PACs are a bad idea and allowing an organization to accumulate infinite funds without reporting where the money comes from or putting any restrictions on how it is spent is a bad idea. But just saying something is a bad idea doesn't cause people to listen. So, he's demonstrating just how bad an idea it is. As mentioned above, it's the same reason he asks people to mess with Wikipedia. He thinks it's a bad idea for everyone to take its word as law when anyone can edit it. So, he demonstrates just how false articles can be.
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** Because he can, and Stephen Colbert (silent t) ''exists'' to explore just how far a fictional character can extend in the real world and take any opportunity for real-world influence/mention he can. So, yeah, trolling. Same reason he messes with Wikipedia, annexes every internet poll he sets his eyes on, and runs for president.
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** Pieced together from various interviews: He doesn't even know whether the name is French or Irish, which would obviously determine which pronunciation is right. His father grew up COL-bert and always wanted to change it to Col-BEAR, but his own father didn't get this and took it as an insult, so Stephen's father never did change it but told his kids to pick whichever pronunciation they liked. Stephen did settle on Col-BEAR when he went to Northwestern, and has been Col-BEAR ever since, both personally and professionally. He does the "get it together, COL-bert!" thing on the show because it's another good shorthand for the character being a TedBaxter who affects the pronunciation to make himself sound more impressive while still feeling like COL-bert deep down. I doubt the real Colbert harbors any insecurity over it.
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** No, his family has always pronounced it COL-bert. The story I heard goes that when he went off to college in another state, he realized that as nobody knew him, he could reinvent himself, and changed the pronunciation. When he began developing a disconnect between his character and himself, he began using that changed pronunciation for the wholly-invented character, and the pronunciation that his family uses for the real man.
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*So the thing with Col-BEAR being the character and COL-bert being the actor/comedian, is that just another layer of the joke? Because Colbert's not at all an uncommon surname, and I've never met anyone who had it and pronounced it other than how character-Stephen does.
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** How can Elmo be sworn to truth ''at all?'' He is merely supposed to be an influence on a congressional decision. His testimony isn't going to result in anyone going to jail or being similarly punished, so there is really no harm in allowing him to speak in-character.
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*How could he be sworn to truth ''in character''?
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** Same reason Jon called it "A" Daily Show instead of "The" Daily Show during the strike, as a gesture to the writers to show they are on there side, and that the Show/Report just isn't the same without it's writing teams.
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**** Well, The Rev. Sir Dr. Stephen Colbert, D.F.A. is just Stephen Colbert if Stephen had suffered several serious head injuries. During the WGA Strike, he was unable to suffer several serious head injuries.
** Same reason Jon called it "A" Daily Show instead of "The" Daily Show during the strike, as a gesture to the writers to show they are on there side, and that the Show/Report just isn't the same withoutit's its writing teams.
** Same reason Jon called it "A" Daily Show instead of "The" Daily Show during the strike, as a gesture to the writers to show they are on there side, and that the Show/Report just isn't the same without
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**** Or in mathematical terms. Truthines s= truthishness
** (From the Republican Dinner) "I trust my gut, not my head. Did you know that there's more nerve endings in your gut than there are in your head? You might say, Steven, I looked that up and it's not true. But that's because you used your head instead of relying on your gut".
** (From the Republican Dinner) "I trust my gut, not my head. Did you know that there's more nerve endings in your gut than there are in your head? You might say, Steven, I looked that up and it's not true. But that's because you used your head instead of relying on your gut".
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** (From the Republican Dinner) "I trust my gut, not my head. Did you know that there's more nerve endings in your gut than there are in your head? You might say,Steven, 'Stephen, I looked that up and it's not true. true.' But that's because you used your head instead of relying on your gut".
** (From the Republican Dinner) "I trust my gut, not my head. Did you know that there's more nerve endings in your gut than there are in your head? You might say,
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** (From the Republican Dinner) "I trust my gut, not my head. Did you know that there's more nerve endings in your gut than there are in your head? You might say, Steven, I looked that up and it's not true. But that's because you used your head instead of relying on your gut".
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*** Wait, so Col-BEAR was showing solidarity by not appearing? One would think that solidarity=not appearing, so... but it doesn't fit Col-BEAR's character... I so confused.
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**According to the main page, because he had solidarity with the writing staff.
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