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** The show is trying to tell us anybody can be racist, including minorities being racist to other minorities, black people to white people. I say try because yeah this show took place in 2010 and had mostly white writers (I think) so I agree with you. But to the shows credit it only shows Cleveland and (old dude) and Rallo (toddler) being this way. (Implying ignorance on their part) The other characters don’t have these hang up’s. It’s not subtle but it’s (mostly/can be) effective when done in moderation (which I honestly don’t think it is but blame the writers for it) but it’s mainly Cleveland who has these issues and he is portrayed as being in the wrong for it.
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** The show is trying to tell us anybody can be racist, including minorities being racist to other minorities, minorities and black people to against white people. I say try because yeah this it doesn’t always work and it IS over the top. The show took place in 2010 and also had mostly white writers (I think) at least to my knowledge so I agree that might have something to do with you. it. But to the shows credit it only shows Cleveland and (old dude) (Who you’re supposed to see as in the wrong) and Rallo (toddler) (a toddler, and only in one episode) being this way. (Implying ignorance on their part) The other characters don’t have these hang up’s. It’s not subtle but it’s (mostly/can be) effective when done in moderation (which I honestly don’t think (Is it is but blame possible one of the writers for it) but was venting? Yes) But it’s mainly Cleveland who has these issues acts this way and he is portrayed we are supposed to see him as being in the wrong for it.
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** The show is trying to tell us anybody can be racist, including minorities being racist to other minorities, black people to white people. I say try because yeah this show took place in 2010 and had mostly white writers (I think) so I agree with you. But to the shows credit it only shows Cleveland and (old dude) and Rallo (toddler) being this way. (Implying ignorance on their part) The other characters don’t have these hang up’s. It’s not subtle but it’s (mostly/can be) effective when done in moderation (which I honestly don’t think it is but blame the writers for it) but it’s mainly Cleveland who has these issues and he is portrayed as being in the wrong for it.
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**It's possible that she may have had a half-sister, in which case, she'd have a sister from her ''father'' and not her mother.
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* Donna had a younger sister named Janet who appeared in two episodes in Season 2. However, Donna's backstory doesn't allow any room for a sister: her mother seemed to indicate that Donna was her only child, and Donna's father is unknown. Either Janet is a cousin who Donna views as a sister, or Janet was [[RetCon retconned]] out of the show.
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* Donna had a younger sister named Janet who appeared in two episodes in Season 2. However, Donna's backstory doesn't allow any room for a sister: her mother seemed to indicate that Donna was her only child, and Donna's father is unknown. Either Janet is a cousin who Donna views as a sister, or Janet was [[RetCon retconned]] out of the show.show.
* In one episode, Cleveland Jr. starts bonding with Freight Train over football games mainly because he accurately predicts which team will win (allowing Freight Train to gamble and win alot of money) by determining which of the two mascots would win in a fight. A bit silly, but this ''is'' a Creator/SethMacFarlane show, after all, so let's run with that. The match-up fights and wins run their logical course, then there's a game between teams whose mascots are a tiger and a steer and it goes into a whole sequence where the imaginary animals fight, and the steer loses...because Junior just ''assumes'' that they're fighting on some giant rotating floating platform in space and the steer has a poor sense of balance on it so that's why it loses. [[FlatWhat What]].
* In one episode, Cleveland Jr. starts bonding with Freight Train over football games mainly because he accurately predicts which team will win (allowing Freight Train to gamble and win alot of money) by determining which of the two mascots would win in a fight. A bit silly, but this ''is'' a Creator/SethMacFarlane show, after all, so let's run with that. The match-up fights and wins run their logical course, then there's a game between teams whose mascots are a tiger and a steer and it goes into a whole sequence where the imaginary animals fight, and the steer loses...because Junior just ''assumes'' that they're fighting on some giant rotating floating platform in space and the steer has a poor sense of balance on it so that's why it loses. [[FlatWhat What]].
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* Maybe it's just my imagination but is it me or does it seem like the Cleveland Show is the only show of McFarlane's works to have anti racism aesops that are really clunky and too obvious. It's not to say his other shows don't have anti racism messages but it just feels like in this show makes such a big deal out of it. Is it possible one of the writers has some issue with supposed "black racism"?
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* Maybe it's just my imagination but is it me or does it seem like the Cleveland Show is the only show of McFarlane's [=McFarlane=]'s works to have anti racism aesops that are really clunky and too obvious. It's not to say his other shows don't have anti racism messages but it just feels like in this show makes such a big deal out of it. Is it possible one of the writers has some issue with supposed "black racism"?
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** There is also a fairly prevalent trope in media where parents-in-law don't get along with their children's spouses.
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** You have it a bit backwards there. Kevin was still dressing as a woman when Donna was six, so she was Auntie Mama then. Watch the scene. It's just that she didn't become the OUTRAGEOUS Auntie Mama we know today until Donna was six, notice how she apologized for accidentally farting a tiny bit.
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* In WesternAnimation/TheClevelandShow's part of the "Night of the Hurricane" crossover, the hurricane is said to hit [[TheClevelandShow Stoolbend]], then pass through [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Quahog]], and then finally end up in [[WesternAnimation/AmericanDad American Dad Land]]. The episodes were aired that order, but from a geographical point of view... the hurricane went from Virginia, to Rhode Island, and then back to Virginia. It went 450 miles to Rhode Island, AND THEN BACK AGAIN! ...why?
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* In WesternAnimation/TheClevelandShow's part of the "Night of the Hurricane" crossover, the hurricane is said to hit [[TheClevelandShow [[WesternAnimation/TheClevelandShow Stoolbend]], then pass through [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Quahog]], and then finally end up in [[WesternAnimation/AmericanDad American Dad Land]]. The episodes were aired that order, but from a geographical point of view... the hurricane went from Virginia, to Rhode Island, and then back to Virginia. It went 450 miles to Rhode Island, AND THEN BACK AGAIN! ...why?
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*** No, it's mentioned on TheClevelandShow's WesternAnimation/TheClevelandShow's weather report.
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* How the heck did Donna not know about her Uncle Kevin?! Donna's mom gave her to Kevin when she was a baby. Kevin didn't become Auntie Mama until she was 6 years old. Donna HAD to know about Kevin. If she did know, she wasn't curious about his "disappearance"?
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* How the heck did Donna not know about her Uncle Kevin?! Donna's mom gave her to Kevin when she was a baby. Kevin didn't become Auntie Mama until she was 6 years old. Donna HAD to know about Kevin. If she did know, she wasn't curious about his "disappearance"?"disappearance"?
* Donna had a younger sister named Janet who appeared in two episodes in Season 2. However, Donna's backstory doesn't allow any room for a sister: her mother seemed to indicate that Donna was her only child, and Donna's father is unknown. Either Janet is a cousin who Donna views as a sister, or Janet was [[RetCon retconned]] out of the show.
* Donna had a younger sister named Janet who appeared in two episodes in Season 2. However, Donna's backstory doesn't allow any room for a sister: her mother seemed to indicate that Donna was her only child, and Donna's father is unknown. Either Janet is a cousin who Donna views as a sister, or Janet was [[RetCon retconned]] out of the show.
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* Maybe it's just my imagination but is it me or does it seem like the Cleveland Show is the only show of McFarlane's works to have anti racism aesops that are really clunky and too obvious. It's not to say his other shows don't have anti racism messages but it just feels like in this show makes such a big deal out of it. Is it possible one of the writers has some issue with supposed "black racism"?
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* Maybe it's just my imagination but is it me or does it seem like the Cleveland Show is the only show of McFarlane's works to have anti racism aesops that are really clunky and too obvious. It's not to say his other shows don't have anti racism messages but it just feels like in this show makes such a big deal out of it. Is it possible one of the writers has some issue with supposed "black racism"?racism"?
* How the heck did Donna not know about her Uncle Kevin?! Donna's mom gave her to Kevin when she was a baby. Kevin didn't become Auntie Mama until she was 6 years old. Donna HAD to know about Kevin. If she did know, she wasn't curious about his "disappearance"?
* How the heck did Donna not know about her Uncle Kevin?! Donna's mom gave her to Kevin when she was a baby. Kevin didn't become Auntie Mama until she was 6 years old. Donna HAD to know about Kevin. If she did know, she wasn't curious about his "disappearance"?
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* In TheClevelandShow's part of the "Night of the Hurricane" crossover, the hurricane is said to hit [[TheClevelandShow Stoolbend]], then pass through [[FamilyGuy Quahog]], and then finally end up in [[WesternAnimation/AmericanDad American Dad Land]]. The episodes were aired that order, but from a geographical point of view... the hurricane went from Virginia, to Rhode Island, and then back to Virginia. It went 450 miles to Rhode Island, AND THEN BACK AGAIN! ...why?
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* In TheClevelandShow's WesternAnimation/TheClevelandShow's part of the "Night of the Hurricane" crossover, the hurricane is said to hit [[TheClevelandShow Stoolbend]], then pass through [[FamilyGuy [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Quahog]], and then finally end up in [[WesternAnimation/AmericanDad American Dad Land]]. The episodes were aired that order, but from a geographical point of view... the hurricane went from Virginia, to Rhode Island, and then back to Virginia. It went 450 miles to Rhode Island, AND THEN BACK AGAIN! ...why?
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** Also, that Thanksgiving episode seemed to imply that Cookie was hurt at Freight Train's disrespect of her and taking it out on Donna (in one scene Freight Train hurts Cookie's feelings and she immediately insults Donna).
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** Also, that Thanksgiving episode seemed to imply that Cookie was hurt at Freight Train's disrespect of her and she was taking it out on Donna (in one scene Freight Train hurts Cookie's feelings and she immediately insults Donna).
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**Steelmag9 here. If you watch the Thanksgiving episode from S1, Cookie tells Donna that she doesn't like her because Donna broke Cleve's heart by choosing Robert over him in high school. Cookie also says that Donna is only with Cleveland now because she's fat and needed a husband to raise Rallo and Roberta following her divorce.
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**Steelmag9 here. If you watch the Thanksgiving episode from S1, Cookie tells Donna that she doesn't like her because Donna broke Cleve's heart by choosing Robert over him in high school. Cookie also says that Donna is only with Cleveland now because she's fat and needed a husband to raise Rallo and Roberta following her divorce.
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** Also, that Thanksgiving episode seemed to imply that Cookie was hurt at Freight Train's disrespect of her and taking it out on Donna (in one scene Freight Train hurts Cookie's feelings and she immediately insults Donna).
** Also, that Thanksgiving episode seemed to imply that Cookie was hurt at Freight Train's disrespect of her and taking it out on Donna (in one scene Freight Train hurts Cookie's feelings and she immediately insults Donna).
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* Maybe it's just my imagination but is it me or does it seem like the Cleveland Show is the only show of McFarlane's works to have anti racism aesops that are really clunky and too obvious. It's not to say his other shows don't have anti racism messages but it just feels like in this show makes such a big deal out of it. Is it possible one of the writers has someissue some issue with supposed "black racism"?
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** Actually, I think she was shown in one episode but was from behind. If not, then it could be possible that she probably somewhere else.
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** Actually, I think she was shown in one episode but was from behind. If not, then it could be possible that she probably somewhere else.else.
* Maybe it's just my imagination but is it me or does it seem like the Cleveland Show is the only show of McFarlane's works to have anti racism aesops that are really clunky and too obvious. It's not to say his other shows don't have anti racism messages but it just feels like in this show makes such a big deal out of it. Is it possible one of the writers has someissue with supposed "black racism"?
* Maybe it's just my imagination but is it me or does it seem like the Cleveland Show is the only show of McFarlane's works to have anti racism aesops that are really clunky and too obvious. It's not to say his other shows don't have anti racism messages but it just feels like in this show makes such a big deal out of it. Is it possible one of the writers has someissue with supposed "black racism"?
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**Actually, I think she was shown in one episode but was from behind. If not, then it could be possible that she probably somewhere else.
**Actually, I think she was shown in one episode but was from behind. If not, then it could be possible that she probably somewhere else.
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** On "Field of Streams," Cleveland bullied Wally Farquhare in high school.
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** On "Field of Streams," Cleveland bullied Wally Farquhare in high school.school.
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* Why hasn't Roberta appeared anytime Cleveland and the family appeared on FamilyGuy?
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**Steelmag9 here. If you watch the Thanksgiving episode from S1, Cookie tells Donna that she doesn't like her because Donna broke Cleve's heart by choosing Robert over him in high school. Cookie also says that Donna is only with Cleveland now because she's fat and needed a husband to raise Rallo and Roberta follwing her divorce.
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**Steelmag9 here. If you watch the Thanksgiving episode from S1, Cookie tells Donna that she doesn't like her because Donna broke Cleve's heart by choosing Robert over him in high school. Cookie also says that Donna is only with Cleveland now because she's fat and needed a husband to raise Rallo and Roberta follwing following her divorce.
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** They went to high school together, guess its close enough.
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** They went to high school together, guess its close enough.enough.
** On "Field of Streams," Cleveland bullied Wally Farquhare in high school.
** On "Field of Streams," Cleveland bullied Wally Farquhare in high school.
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* In the opening intro, Cleveland was singing about old friends in the lyrics, Terry is shown which is understandable since he is a old friend of Cleveland, but why was Principal Farquhare there? He's not a old friend of Cleveland! Any guesses?
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* In the opening intro, Cleveland was singing about old friends in the lyrics, Terry is shown which is understandable since he is a old friend of Cleveland, but why was Principal Farquhare there? He's not a old friend of Cleveland! Any guesses?guesses?
** They went to high school together, guess its close enough.
** They went to high school together, guess its close enough.
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** It's probably safe to say that it's just RuleOfFunny used by BreakingTheFourthWall.
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*In the opening intro, Cleveland was singing about old friends in the lyrics, Terry is shown which is understandable since he is a old friend of Cleveland, but why was Principal Farquhare there? He's not a old friend of Cleveland! Any guesses?
*In the opening intro, Cleveland was singing about old friends in the lyrics, Terry is shown which is understandable since he is a old friend of Cleveland, but why was Principal Farquhare there? He's not a old friend of Cleveland! Any guesses?
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**Steelmag9 here. If you watch the Thanksgiving episode from S1, Cookie tells Donna that she doesn't like her because Donna broke Cleve's heart by choosing Robert over him in high school. Cookie also feels that Donna is only with Cleveland now because she's fat and needed a husband to raise Rallo and Roberta follwing her divorce.
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**Steelmag9 here. If you watch the Thanksgiving episode from S1, Cookie tells Donna that she doesn't like her because Donna broke Cleve's heart by choosing Robert over him in high school. Cookie also feels says that Donna is only with Cleveland now because she's fat and needed a husband to raise Rallo and Roberta follwing her divorce.
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**Steelmag9 here. If you watch the Thanksgiving episode from S1, Cookie tells Donna that she doesn't like her because Donna broke his heart by choosing Robert over him. Cookie tells Donna that she feels that Donna is with Cleveland now only because she's fat and Robert left her with 2 kids. Mothers have long memories.
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**Steelmag9 here. If you watch the Thanksgiving episode from S1, Cookie tells Donna that she doesn't like her because Donna broke his Cleve's heart by choosing Robert over him. him in high school. Cookie tells Donna that she also feels that Donna is only with Cleveland now only because she's fat and Robert left needed a husband to raise Rallo and Roberta follwing her with 2 kids. Mothers have long memories.divorce.
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** It's probably safe to say that it's just RuleOfFunny.
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* In TheClevelandShow's part of the "Night of the Hurricane" crossover, the hurricane is said to hit [[TheClevelandShow Stoolbend]], then pass through [[FamilyGuy Quahog]], and then finally end up in [[AmericanDad [[WesternAnimation/AmericanDad American Dad Land]]. The episodes were aired that order, but from a geographical point of view... the hurricane went from Virginia, to Rhode Island, and then back to Virginia. It went 450 miles to Rhode Island, AND THEN BACK AGAIN! ...why?
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** It's never stated that the events of the hurricane happened in the order the episodes were aired. The TV station has control of the TV schedule and which order the different shows air in.
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*** No, it's mentioned on TheClevelandShow's weather report.
*** No, it's mentioned on TheClevelandShow's weather report.
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* In TheClevelandShow's part of the "Night of the Hurricane" crossover, the hurricane is said to hit [[TheClevelandShow Stoolbend]], then pass through [[FamilyGuy Quahog]], and then finally end up in [[AmericanDad American Dad Land]]. The episodes were aired that order, but from a geographical point of view... the hurricane went from Virginia, to Rhode Island, and then back to Virginia. It went 450 miles to Rhode Island, AND THEN BACK AGAIN! ...why?why?
** It's never stated that the events of the hurricane happened in the order the episodes were aired. The TV station has control of the TV schedule and which order the different shows air in.
** It's never stated that the events of the hurricane happened in the order the episodes were aired. The TV station has control of the TV schedule and which order the different shows air in.
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* Why the hell hasn't McFarlane made Tim's "I'm a bear" a running joke to solve problems. He did it once and it was hilarious
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