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**** There is a very good reason to keep Leonard from knowing about the experiment - giving a blind taste trial. The whole point was to see when Leonard would notice, which is kind of undermined if you tell him right from the start.
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*** Maybe, though considering his attitude about lying/secret keeping/deceit in general it seems unlikely. There have been several moments in the show where HilarityEnsues because of his inability to lie, so it's hard for me to believe he's doing so.

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** That also depends on ''[[OpinionMyopia you]]'' thinking it's not funny.




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** Maybe he's lying about it?
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*** As pointed out before, Sheldon likes to think that he knows more than anyone about everything, and has on several occasins applied flawed evolutionary theories to try and prove his point. This is just another example.
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*** I'm guessing that's easier to do in theory than in practice... having Sheldon as a boss would be stressful at the best of times. We've also seen how much he disrespects Raj and immediately dismisses Raj's contributions (which he was hired **to do**) when they don't align with what Sheldon has already figured out. Plus, Sheldon isn't just his boss -- he's also his friend -- which means they'll take liberties there that most people probably wouldn't with their employers. And Sheldon is so anxiety-ridden at the idea of even interviewing more qualified people to take to the north pole with him -- something that may have actually risked his life -- that it's likely he wouldn't fire Raj no matter what he did, because he'd rather keep the 'safe' choice he already knows than hire someone else to help him. And while Sheldon is certainly unsympathetic and a huge douche most of the time, I think he does still consider Raj a friend and probably has a few criteria for how to treat 'friends' that don't include having him be deported. Gratitude is something Raj would have felt to start with, but that quickly fades when faced with the day-to-day struggle of working with Sheldon that would have followed for the next several months.

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*** I'm guessing that's easier to do in theory than in practice... having Sheldon as a boss would be stressful at the best of times. We've also seen how much he disrespects Raj and immediately dismisses Raj's contributions (which he was hired **to do**) ''to do'') when they don't align with what Sheldon has already figured out. Plus, Sheldon isn't just his boss -- he's also his friend -- which means they'll take liberties there that most people probably wouldn't with their employers. And Sheldon is so anxiety-ridden at the idea of even interviewing more qualified people to take to the north pole with him -- something that may have actually risked his life -- that it's likely he wouldn't fire Raj no matter what he did, because he'd rather keep the 'safe' choice he already knows than hire someone else to help him. And while Sheldon is certainly unsympathetic and a huge douche most of the time, I think he does still consider Raj a friend and probably has a few criteria for how to treat 'friends' that don't include having him be deported. Gratitude is something Raj would have felt to start with, but that quickly fades when faced with the day-to-day struggle of working with Sheldon that would have followed for the next several months.
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*** I'm guessing that's easier to do in theory than in practice... having Sheldon as a boss would be stressful at the best of times. We've also seen how much he disrespects Raj and immediately dismisses Raj's contributions (which he was hired **to do**) when they don't align with what Sheldon has already figured out. Plus, Sheldon isn't just his boss -- he's also his friend -- which means they'll take liberties there that most people probably wouldn't with their employers. And Sheldon is so anxiety-ridden at the idea of even interviewing more qualified people to take to the north pole with him -- something that may have actually risked his life -- that it's likely he wouldn't fire Raj no matter what he did, because he'd rather keep the 'safe' choice he already knows than hire someone else to help him. And while Sheldon is certainly unsympathetic and a huge douche most of the time, I think he does still consider Raj a friend and probably has a few criteria for how to treat 'friends' that don't include having him be deported. Gratitude is something Raj would have felt to start with, but that quickly fades when faced with the day-to-day struggle of working with Sheldon that would have followed for the next several months.
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That's "can't".
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Decided to delete it before someone else does. I've seen people post similar issues and they're always deleted. You can complain about the fandom, apparently. If you still want it answered, I'd suggest the Just Bugs Me page for fanfiction.


* What bugs ThisTroper? Sheldon-Penny shippers. That's it. I can't really picture this ship happening at all.
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*** On that topic, how about ''The hot troll deviation''. Sheldon finally gives up and lets Raj get a desktop, what does Raj do? He buys a giant desktop! Why make Raj such a douche in this episode, really why? I mean, Sheldon is crazy, unsympathetic and just plain infuriating sometimes, but he is Raj's boss, and he gave him the job at a time in which Raj was just about to be deported. So, Raj could just have been happy he got Sheldon to make some sense and allow him to get a desk...


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* What bugs ThisTroper? Sheldon-Penny shippers. That's it. I can't really picture this ship happening at all.
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**** I don't know -- I never took Sheldon and Leonard's discussion about cats as 'a fit'. He says 'oh goody, we're getting a cat' in a disparaging way, but considering how very capable Sheldon is at making things unbearable for the person living with him over any disagreement (most noticeable in the fights we see between Leonard and Sheldon in the episode that discussed how Leonard met/moved in with Sheldon), it seems a very minor qualm to Sheldon. Leonard also doesn't treat his desire for a cat as something that is against the roommate agreement means it's likely not a true issue between them. Sheldon has also previously discussed his childhood cat 'Lucky', and the main thing they talked about when Leonard wanted a cat was its effect on Sheldon's asthma, it's never said that he's actually allergic to cats.
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*** Agreed. He tells girls that she lives with him, but it's his childhood home - as Leonard points out once, he sleeps in the same room where his bassinet was - and he's also mentioned before that he pays rent.



*** So, given the finale, this means that going into the fourth season, the only one of the guys with a girlfriend may be Sheldon?

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*** So, given the finale, this means that going into the fourth season, the only one of the guys with a girlfriend may be Sheldon?
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**** "She's a girl, and she's my friend, but SheIsNotMyGirlfriend."




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**** He legitimatelylegitimatelylegitimately does know that some of the things he does are offensive. The most recent episode revealed that he was grinding up insects into Leonard's food for an 'experiment'. There's no way to argue he didn't know that was an inappropriate thing to do, because he DID keep Leonard from knowing about it. There's also no way to argue that knowing when food begins to taste 'mothy' would have any real-life applications or be something Sheldon would consider an important contribution to science.
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**** Apparently. Thank you!
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** This is a common point of conflict. Vestigiality does not imply lack of functionality (http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/vestiges/appendix.html) Of course, YMMV but since Sheldon tends to be more of the pro-evolution kind of person, he would go with the definition found in the talkorigins site.
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I also can't write a fucking sentence.


* Sheldon thinks the appendix is a superfluous organ. Recent studies have suggested it may be repository for "good" bacteria and pretty important in maintaining the health of the human digestive system. I'm a nerd that's never been to university and have no interest in medicine, and I know more about this than ''Sheldon'' does?!

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* Sheldon thinks the appendix is a superfluous vestigial organ. Recent studies have suggested it may be a repository for "good" bacteria and pretty important in maintaining the health of the human digestive system. I'm a nerd that's never been to university and have has no interest in medicine, and I know more about this than ''Sheldon'' does?!
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* Sheldon thinks the appendix is a superfluous organ. Recent studies have suggested it may be repository for "good" bacteria and pretty important in maintaining the health of the human digestive system. I'm a nerd with no formal higher education, and I know more about this than ''Sheldon'' does?!

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* Sheldon thinks the appendix is a superfluous organ. Recent studies have suggested it may be repository for "good" bacteria and pretty important in maintaining the health of the human digestive system. I'm a nerd with that's never been to university and have no formal higher education, interest in medicine, and I know more about this than ''Sheldon'' does?!
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* Sheldon thinks the appendix is a superfluous organ. Recent studies have suggested it may be repository for "good" bacteria and pretty important in maintaining the health of the human digestive system. I'm a nerd with no formal higher education, and I know more about this than ''Sheldon'' does?!
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*** The most recent and obvious one is the cats. S1, Sheldon has a fit about Leonard wanting a cat and cites allergies/asthma. S4 - Mr Neat Freak has 25 of them and a bunch of uncleaned litter boxes? Huh?
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* Sheldon's eidetic memory. This seemed to have been introduced later than most of his character qualities as an extension of his genius level intelligence, but does not mesh with things previously shown. He has before forgotten things (he even says as much when he is 'counting catwomen' in the first episode of season two, talking about his favorite Catwoman actresses as well as his favorite x-men. This feeling of inconsistency applies to times when forgetfulness is implied but not explicitly stated - the various arguments he and the boys have about comic book things. Kryptonian skin cells might just be speculation and he accepts the challenge to find them in a comic, but if he had actually READ it somewhere he would know immediately where. The same is true for Wolverine's bone claws, and he could end those arguments simply by telling the comic verse and issue # rather than going to hunt it down, but he never does this, it's always shown as being his dedication to being right that results in him 'proving' things in that way when his eidetic memory could end the discussion right away.) The fact that they haven't had it in place from the beginning is annoying because of the nature of this particular ability. Most character qualities that are introduced later in a series can be chalked off as CharacterDevelopment, but this one can't and when re-watching older episodes it does create a few jarring moments when in the past he has shown a lapse of memory that is immediately noticeable because of how much attention he brings to his memory after this character quality was put in place.

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* Sheldon's eidetic memory. This seemed to have been introduced later than most of his character qualities as an extension of his genius level intelligence, but does not mesh with things previously shown. He has before forgotten things (he even says as much when he is 'counting catwomen' in the first episode of season two, talking about his favorite Catwoman actresses as well as his favorite x-men. ) This feeling of inconsistency applies to times also sometimes comes up when forgetfulness is implied but not explicitly stated - the various arguments he and the boys have about comic book things.things are the usual culprit for that. Kryptonian skin cells might just be speculation and he accepts the challenge to find them in a comic, but if he had actually READ it somewhere he would know immediately where. The same is true for Wolverine's bone claws, and he could end those arguments simply by telling the comic verse and issue # series/artist/author/issue rather than going to hunt it down, but he never does this, it's always shown as being his dedication to being right that results in him 'proving' things in that way when his eidetic memory could end the discussion right away.) this. The fact that they haven't had it in place from the beginning is annoying because of the nature of this particular ability. Most character qualities that are introduced later in a series can be chalked off as CharacterDevelopment, but this one can't and when re-watching older episodes it does create a few jarring moments when in the past he has shown a lapse of memory that is immediately noticeable because of how much attention he brings to his having an eidetic memory after this character quality was put in place.later episodes.
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* Sheldon's eidetic memory. This seemed to have been introduced later than most of his character qualities as an extension of his genius level intelligence, but does not mesh with things previously shown. He has before forgotten things (he even says as much when he is 'counting catwomen' in the first episode of season two, talking about his favorite Catwoman actresses as well as his favorite x-men, not to mention the various arguments he and the other boys have over comic book things - Kryptonian skin cells might just be speculation and he accepts the challenge to find them in a comic, but if he had actually read it somewhere he would know immediately where - the same goes for Wolverine's bone claws.) and later occasionally forgets things as well. Its lack of consistency after being introduced is irritating on its own, but the fact that they haven't had it in place from the beginning is annoying because of the nature of this particular ability. Most character qualities that are introduced later in a series can be chalked off as CharacterDevelopment, but this one can't and when re-watching older episodes it does create a few jarring moments when in the past he has shown a lapse of memory that is immediately noticeable because of how much attention he brings to his memory after this character quality was put in place.

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* Sheldon's eidetic memory. This seemed to have been introduced later than most of his character qualities as an extension of his genius level intelligence, but does not mesh with things previously shown. He has before forgotten things (he even says as much when he is 'counting catwomen' in the first episode of season two, talking about his favorite Catwoman actresses as well as his favorite x-men, x-men. This feeling of inconsistency applies to times when forgetfulness is implied but not to mention explicitly stated - the various arguments he and the other boys have over about comic book things - things. Kryptonian skin cells might just be speculation and he accepts the challenge to find them in a comic, but if he had actually read READ it somewhere he would know immediately where - the where. The same goes is true for Wolverine's bone claws.) claws, and later occasionally forgets he could end those arguments simply by telling the comic verse and issue # rather than going to hunt it down, but he never does this, it's always shown as being his dedication to being right that results in him 'proving' things as well. Its lack of consistency after being introduced is irritating on its own, but in that way when his eidetic memory could end the discussion right away.) The fact that they haven't had it in place from the beginning is annoying because of the nature of this particular ability. Most character qualities that are introduced later in a series can be chalked off as CharacterDevelopment, but this one can't and when re-watching older episodes it does create a few jarring moments when in the past he has shown a lapse of memory that is immediately noticeable because of how much attention he brings to his memory after this character quality was put in place.
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* Sheldon's eidetic memory. This seemed to have been introduced later than most of his character qualities as an extension of his genius level intelligence, but does not mesh with things previously shown. He has before forgotten things (he even says as much when he is 'counting catwomen' in the first episode of season two, talking about his favorite Catwoman actresses as well as his favorite x-men.) and later occasionally forgets things as well. Its lack of consistency after being introduced is irritating on its own, but the fact that they haven't had it in place from the beginning is annoying because of the nature of this particular ability. Most character qualities that are introduced later in a series can be chalked off as CharacterDevelopment, but this one can't and when re-watching older episodes it does create a few jarring moments when in the past he has shown a lapse of memory that is immediately noticeable because of how much attention he brings to his memory after this character quality was put in place.

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* Sheldon's eidetic memory. This seemed to have been introduced later than most of his character qualities as an extension of his genius level intelligence, but does not mesh with things previously shown. He has before forgotten things (he even says as much when he is 'counting catwomen' in the first episode of season two, talking about his favorite Catwoman actresses as well as his favorite x-men.x-men, not to mention the various arguments he and the other boys have over comic book things - Kryptonian skin cells might just be speculation and he accepts the challenge to find them in a comic, but if he had actually read it somewhere he would know immediately where - the same goes for Wolverine's bone claws.) and later occasionally forgets things as well. Its lack of consistency after being introduced is irritating on its own, but the fact that they haven't had it in place from the beginning is annoying because of the nature of this particular ability. Most character qualities that are introduced later in a series can be chalked off as CharacterDevelopment, but this one can't and when re-watching older episodes it does create a few jarring moments when in the past he has shown a lapse of memory that is immediately noticeable because of how much attention he brings to his memory after this character quality was put in place.
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* Sheldon's eidetic memory. This seemed to have been introduced later than most of his character qualities as an extension of his genius level intelligence, but does not mesh with things previously shown. He has before forgotten things (he even says as much when he is 'counting catwomen' in the first episode of season two, talking about his favorite Catwoman actresses as well as his favorite x-men.) and occasionally later also forgets things occasionally. Its lack of consistency after being introduced is irritating on its own, but the fact that they haven't had it in place from the beginning is annoying because of the nature of this particular ability. Most character qualities that are introduced later in a series can be chalked off as CharacterDevelopment, but this one can't and when rewatching older episodes it does create some jarring moments on the rare occasion that he's forgotten something in the past episodes.

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* Sheldon's eidetic memory. This seemed to have been introduced later than most of his character qualities as an extension of his genius level intelligence, but does not mesh with things previously shown. He has before forgotten things (he even says as much when he is 'counting catwomen' in the first episode of season two, talking about his favorite Catwoman actresses as well as his favorite x-men.) and later occasionally later also forgets things occasionally.as well. Its lack of consistency after being introduced is irritating on its own, but the fact that they haven't had it in place from the beginning is annoying because of the nature of this particular ability. Most character qualities that are introduced later in a series can be chalked off as CharacterDevelopment, but this one can't and when rewatching re-watching older episodes it does create some a few jarring moments on the rare occasion that he's forgotten something when in the past episodes.he has shown a lapse of memory that is immediately noticeable because of how much attention he brings to his memory after this character quality was put in place.
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* Sheldon's eidetic memory. This seemed to have been introduced later than most of his character qualities as an extension of his genius level intelligence, but does not mesh with things previously shown. He has before forgotten things (he even says as much when he is 'counting catwomen' in the first episode of season two, talking about his favorite Catwoman actresses as well as his favorite x-men.) and occasionally later also forgets things occasionally. Its lack of consistency after being introduced is irritating on its own, but the fact that they haven't had it in place from the beginning is annoying because of the nature of this particular ability. Most character qualities that are introduced later in a series can be chalked off as CharacterDevelopment, but this one can't and when rewatching older episodes it does create some jarring moments on the rare occasion that he's forgotten something in the past episodes.
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** A little more specific?
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*** What...? Are you talking about the part where Sheldon says 'I sometimes forget other people have limitations... that's so sad.', Howard says 'he can feel sadness?' and Leonard says 'Not really, it's what you and I would call condescension.' ?
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*** To be fair, if you think about the way Sheldon operates, it makes sense that Penny took him so long to accommodate and Amy didn't. Since Amy has the same social issues as Sheldon, she doesn't 'intrude' on his world in the way that he felt Penny did. Part of the issue with Penny was that she was suddenly a physical presence in his life and he had his own behaviors, schedules, recreational activities, dining habits, etc altered by her being there. She integrated into his main social circle and he had to accommodate Penny into his life, as you said. Amy, on the other hand, will go away when he says 'bedtime, see yourself out', they generally communicate online which means he is still in control of his own schedule without her actually being an inconvenience somehow, and does not have the social habits that are so stressful and difficult for Sheldon to understand in Penny.
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**** Okay, maybe not sweet, precisely. But certainly socially naive. And a faceful of foam doesn't equate to national humiliation.
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*** All of this. So very, very much. If that ersatz relationship/trainwreck continues to stink on into season 4, I don't see how any woman can continue to believe that that is a healthy thing. It's degrading to have a female character bleat that a guy whose sole criteria for sleeping with women is 'she's hot/she let me' has ruined her for other men. W. T. F ?!?

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*** All of this. So very, very much. If that ersatz relationship/trainwreck continues to stink on into season 4, I don't see how any woman can continue to believe that that is a healthy thing. It's degrading to have a female character bleat that a guy whose sole criteria for sleeping with women is 'she's hot/she let me' has ruined her for other men. W. T. F ?!?




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**** 2010 Nobel for Physics. Graphene research. Someone DID do the research.



*** And now she's been PutOnABus.

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*** And now she's been PutOnABus.



** It bugs me that the whole damn SHOW is sliding rapidly into the toilet. All the heart and humour has been jettisoned in favour of lowest-common-denominator crassness. It's just a cringe-fest, now, and not in a good way.

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** It bugs me that the whole damn SHOW is sliding rapidly into the toilet. All the heart and humour has been jettisoned in favour of lowest-common-denominator crassness. It's just a cringe-fest, now, and not in a good way.




* The introduction of Amy. It's a crass, lazy writing move. Two Sheldons will not be twice the fun, the humour is generated from difference and conflict between personalities. Given the general trend of this show, it will almost certainly result in a lot of cruel humiliation for one or both parties, too. It also comes across as a blatant slap-down for the S/P fans; given the on-screen chemistry between JP and KC, the continued denial of that has gone beyond bad business sense and is starting to look like stubborn vengeful idiocy. To overlook the comic potential of what actually exists in favour of short-term cheap laughs is just stupid - they have been happy enough to use the potential in episodes like 'TADD', why destroy that?

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* The introduction of Amy. It's a crass, lazy writing move. Two Sheldons will not be twice the fun, the humour is generated from difference and conflict between personalities. Given the general trend of this show, it will almost certainly result in a lot of cruel humiliation for one or both parties, too. It also comes across as a blatant slap-down for the S/P fans; given the on-screen chemistry between JP and KC, the continued denial of that has gone beyond bad business sense and is starting to look like stubborn vengeful idiocy. To overlook the comic potential of what actually exists in favour of short-term cheap laughs is just stupid - they have been happy enough to use the potential in episodes like 'TADD', why destroy that?



*** A highly subjective and personal opinion, I know, but I feel that the quality of the show already slipped badly this last season, and that this will just be a continuation of the process. I guess it comes down to a differing sense of humour. I simply think you could explore the ramifications of Sheldon and a relationship utilising an existing character with history and backstory, instead of abruptly shoe-horning in a new one. The show does not write female characters well at the best of times. Also, it harks back to inconsistent characterisation - if it takes Sheldon three years to manage to accommodate Penny into his life, to have him suddenly accept a new character so abruptly is very OoC.

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*** A highly subjective and personal opinion, I know, but I feel that the quality of the show already slipped badly this last season, and that this will just be a continuation of the process. I guess it comes down to a differing sense of humour. I simply think you could explore the ramifications of Sheldon and a relationship utilising an existing character with history and backstory, instead of abruptly shoe-horning in a new one. The show does not write female characters well at the best of times. Also, it harks back to inconsistent characterisation - if it takes Sheldon three years to manage to accommodate Penny into his life, to have him suddenly accept a new character so abruptly is very OoC.OutOfCharacter.
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** Leslie was dispassionate as a character flaw, "Beverly" (Hofstadter, Leonard's mum) was designed to antagonize Leonard and mesh well with Sheldon, and Amy is meant to be the DistaffCounterpart of Sheldon. I don't see Bernadette as speaking robotically at all, unless you count "uses proper grammar" as a symptom of being a robot. You also forgot Stephanie Barnette, the ''doctor'', and from what we saw a darned good one who was certainly intellectual ([[MDEnvy even if she]] ''[[MDEnvy is]]'' [[NotThatKindOfDoctor That kind Of Doctor]]).

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** Leslie was dispassionate as a character flaw, "Beverly" (Hofstadter, Leonard's mum) was designed to antagonize Leonard and mesh well with Sheldon, and Amy is meant to be the DistaffCounterpart of Sheldon. I don't see Bernadette as speaking robotically at all, unless you count "uses proper grammar" as a symptom of being a robot. You also forgot Stephanie Barnette, the ''doctor'', and from what we saw a darned good one who was certainly intellectual ([[MDEnvy even if she]] ''[[MDEnvy is]]'' [[NotThatKindOfDoctor That kind Of Doctor]]).
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** Leslie was dispassionate as a character flaw, "Beverly" (Hofstadter, Leonard's mum) was designed to antagonize Leonard and mesh well with Sheldon, and Amy is meant to be the DistaffCounterpart of Sheldon. I don't see Bernadette as speaking robotically at all, unless you count "uses proper grammar" as a symptom of being a robot. You also forgot Stephanie Barnette, the ''doctor'', and from what we saw a darned good one who was certainly intellectual ([[MDEnvy even if she]] ''[[MDEnvy is]]'' [[NotThatKindOfDoctor That kind Of Doctor]]).
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** Because the show has a Howardesque view of women - 'doable' or 'not doable'. And they don't go in for the HotScientist trope.

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