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**** I don't think Bryan's CIA buddies (or anyone in CIA) would have so much influence over Turkish authorities that they could just get a destructive car chase (which and was witnessed by loads of people, and endangered the lives of many) and a murder of a police officer swept under the rug.
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**** I don't think Bryan's CIA buddies (or anyone in CIA) would have so much influence over Turkish authorities that they could just get a destructive car chase (which and was witnessed by loads of people, many, and endangered the lives of many) innocent people) and a murder of a police officer swept under the rug.
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**** I don't think Bryan's CIA buddies (or anyone in CIA) would have so much influence over Turkish authorities that they could just get a destructive car chase (which and was witnessed by loads of people, and endangered the lives of many) and a murder of a police officer swept under the rug.
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* Bryan makes it perfectly clear that he only cares about the sexual slavery ring to the extent that they have abducted his daughter, and repeatedly offers to leave them in peace if they let her go. Apparently, he's okay with ''other people's daughters'' being abducted, drugged, and raped by sadists.
** It's not at all that he's okay with it. It's that his goal is to get his daughter back, and he knows that as badass as he is, he alone isn't going to be able to put an end to the whole thing.
** It's not at all that he's okay with it. It's that his goal is to get his daughter back, and he knows that as badass as he is, he alone isn't going to be able to put an end to the whole thing.
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* Bryan makes it perfectly clear that he only cares about the sexual slavery ring to the extent that they have abducted his daughter, and repeatedly offers to leave them in peace if they let her go. Apparently, he's okay alright with ''other people's daughters'' being abducted, drugged, and raped by sadists.
** It's not at all that he'sokay "alright" with it. It's that his goal is to get his daughter back, and he knows that as badass as he is, he alone isn't going to be able to put an end to the whole thing.
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** It's not at all that he's "alright" okay with it. It's that his goal is to get his daughter back, and he knows that as badass as he is, he alone isn't going to be able to put an end to the whole thing.
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* Bryan makes it perfectly clear that he only cares about the sexual slavery ring to the extent that they have abducted his daughter, and repeatedly offers to leave them in peace if they let her go. Apparently, he's alright okay with ''other people's daughters'' being abducted, drugged, and raped by sadists.
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*** "Where they live inside the building" came after he told them he would be back to pick them up for the party. He needed a reason to come back to get that information whether the slavers went with Plan A or Plan B.
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*** "Where they live inside the building" came after he told them he would be back to pick them up for the party. He needed a reason to come back to get that information whether the slavers went with Plan A or Plan B.
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** Also, at the time that Bryan made that speech, he had ''no idea'' who they were. For all he knew, they were enemies of his specifically. He's not on the greatest terms with his ex-wife or her new rich husband, so going to her is probably just not something that crosses his mind when he goes into 'work mode'.
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* Bryan tells the kidnappers he will not pay them, instead threatening them (in the iconic speech) with his special skills. this is very badass, but the kidnappers were motivated by money. why didn't he ask his ex wife for money from her new rich husband. also, he fails to save Amanda, whose family is rich (as evidenced by the Paris apartment). maybe they should have been given the opportunity to barter for their daughters life. Does anyone even let them know their daughter is missing?
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* Bryan tells the kidnappers he will not pay them, instead threatening them (in the iconic speech) with his special skills. this This is very badass, but the kidnappers were motivated by money. why Why didn't he ask his ex wife ex-wife for money from her new rich husband. also, husband? Also, he fails to save Amanda, whose family is rich (as evidenced by the Paris apartment). maybe Maybe they should have been given the opportunity to barter for their daughters life.daughters' lives. Does anyone even let them know their daughter is missing?
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* In the first movie, Bryan fakes out Jean-Claude and the french cops by duct taping his cell phone to a walkie talkie. The radio he used looked like a small civilian version. Aren't those all push to talk? And if it wasn't, would that create a feedback loop with the cell phone?
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** Hell, if Bryan hadn't been on the phone with her at that second, nobody would have known she was missing at all for at least a day, and then they have no leads and they're a day late. Also, people just plain disappear all the time. Oddly enough, the missing persons' rate is frighteningly close to the rates at which prey animals are killed by predators in the wild. You could just disappear--forever, never to be seen again alive by anyone you had ever previously known--off of any street in the US, but you don't see bunches of warnings about going outside.
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** Besides, the selection of the targets seemed to be pretty professional - alone, new to the country, no real adults around, easy to misplace. Had Bryan's daughter not been on the phone with him at the time that they broke in to grab them, they would have had zero leads. The cops (clean or otherwise) can't make a case with no real information.
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** No one was kidnapped at the airport. They were kidnapped later, and only a joint investigation would reveal that they were targeted at the airport. Which didn't happen, because the police were taking kickbacks.
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*** CIA buddy calls the closest thing he has to a friendly counterpart in Turkey, calls in a favor, boom, done.
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* With all the kidnappings of young girls at the airports, one can wonder why people aren't "spammed" with warnings of going to Paris. We see no indications of this.
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*** That still doesn't explain why Turkish police isn't waiting for him outside so they can arrest him the minute he leaves the Embassy area and enters their jurisdiction.
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*** That still doesn't explain why Turkish police isn't waiting for him outside outside, so they can arrest him the minute he leaves the Embassy area and enters their jurisdiction.
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** The alternate ending on the DVD shows a bit more of what happens after Bryan calls his CIA buddy and tells him to make a call to the embassy to let them know what happened. It looks like his buddy explaining everything worked because one of the people from the Embassy called off the guards and met with Bryan before he went off to kill all the bad guys.
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** The alternate ending on the DVD shows a bit more of what happens after Bryan calls his CIA buddy and tells him to make a call to the embassy to let them know what happened. It looks like his buddy explaining everything worked because one of the people from the Embassy called off the guards and met with Bryan before he went off to kill all the bad guys. guys.
*** That still doesn't explain why Turkish police isn't waiting for him outside so they can arrest him the minute he leaves the Embassy area and enters their jurisdiction.
*** That still doesn't explain why Turkish police isn't waiting for him outside so they can arrest him the minute he leaves the Embassy area and enters their jurisdiction.
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** As an ex-CIA type, Bryan knows *exactly* how frequently that sort of gambit works. Even if he offered to pay them billions, there was a damn good chance they'd kill his daughter or sell her anyway.
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** The alternate ending on the DVD shows a bit more of what happens after Bryan calls his CIA buddy and tells him to make a call to the embassy to let them know what happened. It looks like his buddy explaining everything worked because one of the people from the Embassy called off the guards and met with Bryan before he went off to kill all the bad guys.
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* A Headscratcher related to the one above: In the second movie, he escapes to the local authorities to the US embassy, but then later on simply walks out of there. Since he'd shot a Turkish cop, why didn't the embassy detain him? And why wasn't the Istanbul police waiting outside the embassy to arrest him?
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* A Headscratcher related to the one above: In the second movie, he Bryan escapes to the local authorities to the US embassy, but then later on simply walks out of there. Since he'd shot a Turkish cop, why didn't the embassy detain him? And why wasn't the Istanbul police waiting outside the embassy to arrest him?
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** They weren't needed to try and save the Sheikh's life so they were probably waiting in another room and Bryan got them to the police or a hospital or at least a phone or something before going home with Kim.
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** They weren't needed to try and save the Sheikh's life so they were probably waiting in another room and Bryan got them to the police or a hospital or at least a phone or something before going home with Kim.Kim.
* In both Taken and Taken 2, how did Bryan get back to the US so easily after a RoaringRampageOfRescue that leaves numerous people dead? Okay, arguably most of these deaths (but not all of them) could be justified as self-defence, but you'd think the local authorities in France and Turkey would want to at least investigate the case, especially since among his victims was a rich and powerful sheikh (in the first movie) and ''a freakin' police officer'' (in the sequel)? The first movie doesn't specify how long it takes for Bryan to get home, but in the second movie it's specifically stated he's back in Los Angeles a couple of weeks later (and it's implied he's been there for days already). I guess it's theoretically possible the US government and/or his pals at the CIA managed to smuggle him out of the country without the local authorities noticing, but would they really have done this for a rogue retired agent who goes on a killing spree in an European country? At the very least his actions in the first movie would have created a diplomatic scandal between France and the US, which would've meant the Albanians in the second movie wouldn't have had to torture the French cop to find out who Bryan is, as his identity would've been common knowledge.
** A related Headscratcher: In the second movie, he escapes to the local authorities to the US embassy, but then later on simply walks out of there. Since he'd shot a Turkish cop, why didn't the embassy detain him? And why wasn't the Istanbul police waiting for him outside the embassy to arrest him?
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* In both Taken and Taken 2, how did Bryan get back to the US so easily after a RoaringRampageOfRescue that leaves numerous people dead? Okay, arguably most of these deaths (but not all of them) could be justified as self-defence, but you'd think the local authorities in France and Turkey would want to at least investigate the case, especially since among his victims was a rich and powerful sheikh (in the first movie) and ''a freakin' police officer'' (in the sequel)? The first movie doesn't specify how long it takes for Bryan to get home, but in the second movie it's specifically stated he's back in Los Angeles a couple of weeks later (and it's implied he's been there for days already). I guess it's theoretically possible the US government and/or his pals at the CIA managed to smuggle him out of the country without the local authorities noticing, but would they really have done this for a rogue retired agent who goes on a killing spree in an European country? At the very least his actions in the first movie would have created a diplomatic scandal between France and the US, which would've meant the Albanians in the second movie wouldn't have had to torture the French cop to find out who Bryan is, as his identity would've been common knowledge.
** A related Headscratcher: In the second movie, he escapes to the local authorities to the US embassy, but then later on simply walks out of there. Since he'd shot a Turkish cop, why didn't the embassy detain him? And why wasn't the Istanbul police waiting for him outside the embassy to arrest him?
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* What happened to the other two girls that were brought in with the Sheikh? Where did they go?
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** They weren't needed to try and save the Sheikh's life so they were probably waiting in another room and Bryan got them to the police or a hospital or at least a phone or something before going home with Kim.
** They weren't needed to try and save the Sheikh's life so they were probably waiting in another room and Bryan got them to the police or a hospital or at least a phone or something before going home with Kim.
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** He probably just ditches it and 'borrows' another car because he expects to be followed and wants to lose the guy.
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** There's no indication here that there's a TranslationConvention at work anywhere else in the film. That conversation takes place in English, which is another Headscratcher entirely (one mentioned above, if I'm not mistaken."
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**** Technically but if an adult was there (particularly an adult male as they might have decided to kidnap an adult female as well) then they probably wouldn't have been targeted in the first place. Peter was looking for young, attractive women travelling alone or nearly-alone because they'd be vulnerable and easy to 'misplace.'
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* What happened to the other two girls that were brought in with the Sheikh? Where did they go?
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** This troper believes that, given he had a pretty small time-frame in which to rescue his daughter, it was probably more just a case of "well, I'd love to save all these people, but if I stopped to help them all, I'd lose my daughter".
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** Rich white women, no. On the other hand, a poor or lower middle class white woman--especially a naive young girl from a rural area--would be a very tempting target for slavers in the larger US cities.
