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*** 1. It's a valid headscratcher in itself, as it's not like you expect most people to want to want to do it with themselves in that way; 2. their attractiveness in and of itself is certainly not in disputation, least of all by me; 3. having never read that particular story arc, I can only assume the main character's perceived lack of sexuality is YMMV, however, a guy who at least resembles a girl's boyfriend getting said girl pregnant is hardly stretching the boundaries of WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, whereas what amounts to lesbian incest between characters who, as far as I know, are ''not'' obviously lesbian/bisexual ladies who have it off with AnythingThatMoves... erm, isn't. Maybe you could pass it off with UsefulNotes/GeneticSexualAttraction and both Karas being closeted bi, but otherwise...? Either way, even assuming Supergirl has come 'of age', imagine the reaction if DC actually dared to print such stuff for real...

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*** 1. It's a valid headscratcher in itself, as it's not like you expect most people to want to want to do it with themselves in that way; 2. their attractiveness in and of itself is certainly not in disputation, least of all by me; 3. having never read that particular story arc, I can only assume the main character's perceived lack of sexuality is YMMV, however, a guy who at least resembles a girl's boyfriend getting said girl pregnant is hardly stretching the boundaries of WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, whereas what amounts to lesbian incest between characters who, as far as I know, are ''not'' obviously lesbian/bisexual ladies who have it off with AnythingThatMoves...just anybody... erm, isn't. Maybe you could pass it off with UsefulNotes/GeneticSexualAttraction and both Karas being closeted bi, but otherwise...? Either way, even assuming Supergirl has come 'of age', imagine the reaction if DC actually dared to print such stuff for real...
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* Alright call me a pervert all you want, but I was wondering, since Kryptonians are invulnerable under a sun yellow and hotter, and Batman hurts his hand if he punches Superman, do female Kryptonians literally have BoobsOfSteel? I mean do Kryptonians have fat? I mean obviously Supergirl and especially Power Girl have breasts, but are they soft?

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* Alright call me a pervert all you want, but I was wondering, since Kryptonians are invulnerable under a sun yellow and hotter, and Batman hurts his hand if he punches Superman, do female Kryptonians literally have BoobsOfSteel? boobs of steel? I mean do Kryptonians have fat? I mean obviously Supergirl and especially Power Girl have breasts, but are they soft?
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** Even if Clark and Kara did get together, the Kryptonian race is still screwed due to the small gene pool. Any mutations in how their descendants handle their powers could also potentially be world-ending.

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** Even if Clark and Kara did get together, the Kryptonian race is still screwed due to the small gene pool. Any mutations in how their descendants handle their powers could also potentially be world-ending.world-ending.
** I'm sure if such a thing exists, but I think it's immaterial. If Lois and Clark are able to have sex when he's empowered, Kara shouldn't suffer from any issues as well.
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*** Maybe she's deliberately showing off out of jealousy for [[BuxomIsBetter Power Girl]]

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*** Maybe she's deliberately showing off out of jealousy for [[BuxomIsBetter [[BuxomBeautyStandard Power Girl]]
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*** 1. It's a valid headscratcher in itself, as it's not like you expect most people to want to want to do it with themselves in that way; 2. their attractiveness in and of itself is certainly not in disputation, least of all by me; 3. having never read that particular story arc, I can only assume the main character's perceived lack of sexuality is YMMV, however, a guy who at least resembles a girl's boyfriend getting said girl pregnant is hardly stretching the boundaries of WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, whereas what amounts to lesbian incest between characters who, as far as I know, are ''not'' obviously lesbian/bisexual ladies who have it off with AnythingThatMoves... erm, isn't. Maybe you could pass it off with 'genetic sexual attraction' and both Karas being closeted bi, but otherwise...? Either way, even assuming Supergirl has come 'of age', imagine the reaction if DC actually dared to print such stuff for real...

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*** 1. It's a valid headscratcher in itself, as it's not like you expect most people to want to want to do it with themselves in that way; 2. their attractiveness in and of itself is certainly not in disputation, least of all by me; 3. having never read that particular story arc, I can only assume the main character's perceived lack of sexuality is YMMV, however, a guy who at least resembles a girl's boyfriend getting said girl pregnant is hardly stretching the boundaries of WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, whereas what amounts to lesbian incest between characters who, as far as I know, are ''not'' obviously lesbian/bisexual ladies who have it off with AnythingThatMoves... erm, isn't. Maybe you could pass it off with 'genetic sexual attraction' UsefulNotes/GeneticSexualAttraction and both Karas being closeted bi, but otherwise...? Either way, even assuming Supergirl has come 'of age', imagine the reaction if DC actually dared to print such stuff for real...
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*** Yes, for a certain definition of FoeYay. Pre-Crisis Kara's best friend Lena was Lex's younger sister who unaware they were related (she was very young when Lex went to jail). Lex was always afraid that learning her true heritage would shatter Lena's psyche so asked Supergirl to protect the secret, and being that Lena was her best friend Kara agreed. In other words for several years Supergirl was ''Lex Luthor's'' SecretKeeper which added an odd angle to their encounters.

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*** Yes, for a certain definition of FoeYay.tension. Pre-Crisis Kara's best friend Lena was Lex's younger sister who unaware they were related (she was very young when Lex went to jail). Lex was always afraid that learning her true heritage would shatter Lena's psyche so asked Supergirl to protect the secret, and being that Lena was her best friend Kara agreed. In other words for several years Supergirl was ''Lex Luthor's'' SecretKeeper which added an odd angle to their encounters.
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* Can someone please explain the Supergirl / ComicBook/LexLuthor FoeYay? Weren't they sleeping together in the 90's or something?

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* Can someone please explain the Supergirl / ComicBook/LexLuthor FoeYay? tension? Weren't they sleeping together in the 90's or something?



*** Has there ever been any FoeYay between Lex and Kara Zor-El?

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*** Has there ever been any FoeYay tension between Lex and Kara Zor-El?
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*** Yes, that was the official in-universe excuse, but the point is that it didn't matter what any of the writers wanted to do with Kyle at the time, [[ExecutiveMeddling the decision to get him out of the Justice League to make room for John Stewart was made by the editors to make the comic closer to the animated universe]]. Whether you personally liked Young Justice or not, it was ended for the same reason. Just like Superman's history in the comic book was changed to match with ''Series/{{Smallville}}''. It would be a wallbanger for Supergirl to leave because of what a few people did (just like it was when that was the poorly conceived excuse used for Kyle), but it wouldn't matter if some higher-up told the writer that they want her to join the ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}}, to go to Earth-12, or that they were going to bring [[TheScrappy Cir-El]] back and didn't want to confuse the audience. And at that point you would probably write a jab or two aimed at [=DiDido=] out of the pure frustration of someone other than the creative team making decisions that impact a character that you like. I guess what I am trying to say is that editors should spend more time checking continuity and less time bullying writers, and if corporate executives want to dictate what goes on in comics (or TV, movies, etc) they should try their hand at writing them.

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*** Yes, that was the official in-universe excuse, but the point is that it didn't matter what any of the writers wanted to do with Kyle at the time, [[ExecutiveMeddling the decision to get him out of the Justice League to make room for John Stewart was made by the editors to make the comic closer to the animated universe]]. Whether you personally liked Young Justice or not, it was ended for the same reason. Just like Superman's history in the comic book was changed to match with ''Series/{{Smallville}}''. It would be a wallbanger for Supergirl to leave because of what a few people did (just like it was when that was the poorly conceived excuse used for Kyle), but it wouldn't matter if some higher-up told the writer that they want her to join the ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}}, ComicBook/LegionOfSuperHeroes, to go to Earth-12, or that they were going to bring [[TheScrappy Cir-El]] back and didn't want to confuse the audience. And at that point you would probably write a jab or two aimed at [=DiDido=] out of the pure frustration of someone other than the creative team making decisions that impact a character that you like. I guess what I am trying to say is that editors should spend more time checking continuity and less time bullying writers, and if corporate executives want to dictate what goes on in comics (or TV, movies, etc) they should try their hand at writing them.



** a) Most ''ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}}'' fanfictions say Brainiac 5 made her some kind of red sun-utilizing technology for such a purpose. b) Superman once said that marriage of cousins was considered unlawful on Krypton, [[http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/0810/whoah-superman-supergirl-doris-comics-funny-cousins-demotivational-poster-1222846625.jpg as shown here]].

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** a) Most ''ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}}'' ''ComicBook/LegionOfSuperHeroes'' fanfictions say Brainiac 5 made her some kind of red sun-utilizing technology for such a purpose. b) Superman once said that marriage of cousins was considered unlawful on Krypton, [[http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/0810/whoah-superman-supergirl-doris-comics-funny-cousins-demotivational-poster-1222846625.jpg as shown here]].
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** Yeah, Kryptonian women have either their father's or husband's name as a surname, while men have a proper name with House name appended as a suffix. So Kal-El, Jor-El, and Zor-El are Kal, Jor, and Zor of House El, while Kara Zor-El is Kara Daughter Of Zor-El. Probably says something about Kryptonian culture (or what Kryptonian culture used to be).
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** [[ScrewYourself If these two alternate-universe versions where to engage in sex,]] [[NeverTheSelvesShallMeet their intense physical contact would spill through both universes,]] [[RealityBreakingParadox consuming both in a maelstrom of chaos and destruction]] [[ParallelPornTitles until they were spat back out as a new, porn parody version of a DC universe.]]
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** a) Most ''ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}}'' fanfictions say Brainiac 5 made her some kind of red sun-utilizing technology for such a purpose. b) Superman once said that marriage of cousins was considered unlawful on Krypton, [[http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/0810/whoah-superman-supergirl-doris-comics-funny-cousins-demotivational-poster-1222846625.jpg as shown here]].

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** a) Most ''ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}}'' fanfictions say Brainiac 5 made her some kind of red sun-utilizing technology for such a purpose. b) Superman once said that marriage of cousins was considered unlawful on Krypton, [[http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/0810/whoah-superman-supergirl-doris-comics-funny-cousins-demotivational-poster-1222846625.jpg as shown here]].here]].
** Even if Clark and Kara did get together, the Kryptonian race is still screwed due to the small gene pool. Any mutations in how their descendants handle their powers could also potentially be world-ending.
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*** 1) it's a hypothetical question, so it really doesn't matter why, 2) don't call us perverted for finding them hot, because MeganFox ain't got ''sh*t'' on Kara, 3) the same reason Mary Jane was pregnant in the Clone Saga when it's so obvious Spider-Man is asexual: the plot demands it.

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*** 1) it's a hypothetical question, so it really doesn't matter why, 2) don't call us perverted for finding them hot, because MeganFox Creator/MeganFox ain't got ''sh*t'' on Kara, 3) the same reason Mary Jane was pregnant in the Clone Saga when it's so obvious Spider-Man is asexual: the plot demands it.
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*** First, Comicbook/YoungJustice was terribly overrated (can't say the same for the rest of PeterDavid's works, because I haven't really read any). Second, the WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague thing notwithstanding, the official in-universe excuse for Kyle leaving Earth was the gay-bashing (amongst other things). Third, [=DiDio=]-bashing doesn't really have it's place in this argument. And finally, it would be an incredible wall banger for Kara to write off the entire human race for something that a relatively small group of government assholes did.

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*** First, Comicbook/YoungJustice was terribly overrated (can't say the same for the rest of PeterDavid's Creator/PeterDavid's works, because I haven't really read any). Second, the WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague thing notwithstanding, the official in-universe excuse for Kyle leaving Earth was the gay-bashing (amongst other things). Third, [=DiDio=]-bashing doesn't really have it's place in this argument. And finally, it would be an incredible wall banger for Kara to write off the entire human race for something that a relatively small group of government assholes did.
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*** Some continuities have Jor-El and Zor-El as having some level of enmity between each other so the two not putting their children together makes sense.
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***** Yes, that was the official in-universe excuse, but the point is that it didn't matter what any of the writers wanted to do with Kyle at the time, [[ExecutiveMeddling the decision to get him out of the Justice League to make room for John Stewart was made by the editors to make the comic closer to the animated universe]]. Whether you personally liked Young Justice or not, it was ended for the same reason. Just like Superman's history in the comic book was changed to match with {{Smallville}}. It would be a wallbanger for Supergirl to leave because of what a few people did (just like it was when that was the poorly conceived excuse used for Kyle), but it wouldn't matter if some higher-up told the writer that they want her to join the ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}}, to go to Earth-12, or that they were going to bring [[TheScrappy Cir-El]] back and didn't want to confuse the audience. And at that point you would probably write a jab or two aimed at [=DiDido=] out of the pure frustration of someone other than the creative team making decisions that impact a character that you like. I guess what I am trying to say is that editors should spend more time checking continuity and less time bullying writers, and if corporate executives want to dictate what goes on in comics (or TV, movies, etc) they should try their hand at writing them.

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***** Yes, that was the official in-universe excuse, but the point is that it didn't matter what any of the writers wanted to do with Kyle at the time, [[ExecutiveMeddling the decision to get him out of the Justice League to make room for John Stewart was made by the editors to make the comic closer to the animated universe]]. Whether you personally liked Young Justice or not, it was ended for the same reason. Just like Superman's history in the comic book was changed to match with {{Smallville}}.''Series/{{Smallville}}''. It would be a wallbanger for Supergirl to leave because of what a few people did (just like it was when that was the poorly conceived excuse used for Kyle), but it wouldn't matter if some higher-up told the writer that they want her to join the ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}}, to go to Earth-12, or that they were going to bring [[TheScrappy Cir-El]] back and didn't want to confuse the audience. And at that point you would probably write a jab or two aimed at [=DiDido=] out of the pure frustration of someone other than the creative team making decisions that impact a character that you like. I guess what I am trying to say is that editors should spend more time checking continuity and less time bullying writers, and if corporate executives want to dictate what goes on in comics (or TV, movies, etc) they should try their hand at writing them.
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** Oh, please... If ''Supergirl'' makes you confused, then you should stay far away from ''{{Hawkman}}''. You're probably overthinking too much (personally, I don't see it as being ''that'' confusing, but to each his own...). But... yeah, I ''can'' understand; this is what happens when DC wants to reset the status quo of [[Franchise/{{Superman}} its most famous character]], but doesn't want to give up another.

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** Oh, please... If ''Supergirl'' makes you confused, then you should stay far away from ''{{Hawkman}}''.''ComicBook/{{Hawkman}}''. You're probably overthinking too much (personally, I don't see it as being ''that'' confusing, but to each his own...). But... yeah, I ''can'' understand; this is what happens when DC wants to reset the status quo of [[Franchise/{{Superman}} its most famous character]], but doesn't want to give up another.
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**** Hah, which one? The one that was destroyed or the new one that's under threat of Tamaranian invasion? Anyways, back on topic: Kara knows that not everyone is like LexLuthor or Sam Lane. If she writes off all of Earth like that, it's just like Kyle Rayner abandoning Earth because his gay friend was gay-bashed all over again.

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**** Hah, which one? The one that was destroyed or the new one that's under threat of Tamaranian invasion? Anyways, back on topic: Kara knows that not everyone is like LexLuthor ComicBook/LexLuthor or Sam Lane. If she writes off all of Earth like that, it's just like Kyle Rayner abandoning Earth because his gay friend was gay-bashed all over again.



** Superman and Supergirl take the fact that their species has become extinct pretty well, it seems. Superman cares more that humans died during his absence and thinks he should have left Kandor in Brainiac's ship. Supergirl not only stays on Earth, but thinks about rejecting her Kryptonian roots. And neither of them tries to go after LexLuthor, who took the part in the genocide of their people, even though he is public figure again. Regarding the above argument: Supergirl abandoning Earth WOULD NOT BE THE SAME THING as when Kyle Rayner did it, simply because it's not her native planet, she spent only a few years here, so from her perspective it would be just leaving one alien world for another.

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** Superman and Supergirl take the fact that their species has become extinct pretty well, it seems. Superman cares more that humans died during his absence and thinks he should have left Kandor in Brainiac's ship. Supergirl not only stays on Earth, but thinks about rejecting her Kryptonian roots. And neither of them tries to go after LexLuthor, ComicBook/LexLuthor, who took the part in the genocide of their people, even though he is public figure again. Regarding the above argument: Supergirl abandoning Earth WOULD NOT BE THE SAME THING as when Kyle Rayner did it, simply because it's not her native planet, she spent only a few years here, so from her perspective it would be just leaving one alien world for another.



* Can someone please explain the Supergirl / LexLuthor FoeYay? Weren't they sleeping together in the 90's or something?

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* Can someone please explain the Supergirl / LexLuthor ComicBook/LexLuthor FoeYay? Weren't they sleeping together in the 90's or something?
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***** Kyle Rayner left Earth because John Stewart was going to be in ''JusticeLeague'', so [[ExecutiveMeddling Kyle had to be shooed out of the JLA so that John could be the Green Lantern in the comic book version]]. The gay bashing thing was just a poorly-conceived excuse. Similar to why ''Comicbook/YoungJustice'' was canceled and some of the members shifted to the new ''Comicbook/TeenTitans'' right before the ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' cartoon started. (Well, that and Creator/DanDiDio hates fun.)
****** First, Comicbook/YoungJustice was terribly overrated (can't say the same for the rest of PeterDavid's works, because I haven't really read any). Second, the JusticeLeague thing notwithstanding, the official in-universe excuse for Kyle leaving Earth was the gay-bashing (amongst other things). Third, [=DiDio=]-bashing doesn't really have it's place in this argument. And finally, it would be an incredible wall banger for Kara to write off the entire human race for something that a relatively small group of government assholes did.

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***** Kyle Rayner left Earth because John Stewart was going to be in ''JusticeLeague'', ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', so [[ExecutiveMeddling Kyle had to be shooed out of the JLA so that John could be the Green Lantern in the comic book version]]. The gay bashing thing was just a poorly-conceived excuse. Similar to why ''Comicbook/YoungJustice'' was canceled and some of the members shifted to the new ''Comicbook/TeenTitans'' right before the ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' cartoon started. (Well, that and Creator/DanDiDio hates fun.)
****** First, Comicbook/YoungJustice was terribly overrated (can't say the same for the rest of PeterDavid's works, because I haven't really read any). Second, the JusticeLeague WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague thing notwithstanding, the official in-universe excuse for Kyle leaving Earth was the gay-bashing (amongst other things). Third, [=DiDio=]-bashing doesn't really have it's place in this argument. And finally, it would be an incredible wall banger for Kara to write off the entire human race for something that a relatively small group of government assholes did.

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