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* ''Headscratchers/StarWarsTheRiseOfKyloRen''
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** Or maybe he's being deceptive ''by being honest''. Surely Kenobi wouldn't have given the medical droids his full and proper name, ''or'' hers, when he brought the dying Amidala to the hospital where the twins were born? Not after he'd just sliced up the Emperor's Dragon and gotten himself bumped straight to the top of the imperial most-wanted list. Checking into that facility may literally be the first time he used the name "Ben" - probably, given it would've been the nearest hospital to Mustafar, without "Kenobi" - for any purpose, and he quit calling himself "Obi-Wan" with anyone but his co-conspirators from that moment forward.

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** Or maybe he's being deceptive ''by being honest''. Surely Kenobi wouldn't have given the medical droids his full and proper name, ''or'' hers, when he brought the dying Amidala to the hospital where the twins were born? Not after he'd just sliced up the Emperor's Dragon and gotten himself bumped straight to the top of the imperial most-wanted list. Checking into that facility may literally be the first time he used the name "Ben" - probably, given it would've been the nearest hospital to Mustafar, without "Kenobi" - for any purpose, and he quit calling himself "Obi-Wan" with anyone but his co-conspirators from that moment forward.thereafter. (Sure, those few allies may still use Kenobi's old name occasionally, but that's ''them'' using it in private, not ''him'' going by it in public.)
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** Or maybe he's being deceptive ''by being honest''. Surely Kenobi wouldn't have given the medical droids his full and proper name, ''or'' hers, when he brought the dying Amidala to the hospital where the twins were born? Not after he'd just sliced up the Emperor's Dragon and gotten himself bumped straight to the top of the imperial most-wanted list. Checking into that facility may literally be the first time he used the name "Ben" - probably, given it would've been the nearest hospital to Mustafar, without "Kenobi" - for any purpose, and he quit calling himself "Obi-Wan" with anyone but his co-conspirators from that moment forward.
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** For the latter question? Probably. For the former, it could be that there's a heritable trait that makes one's cells more attractive to mitoclorians, the same way mosquitos like type O blood (do not quote me on that, I'm not a doctor.)


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[[folder:Empire replacing clones]]
* Yes, clones were expensive, and took a long time to grow and train, and as result, having limited numbers compared to a natural born army. But they are literally bred to fight, trained from birth, and the biochips and all that indoctrination/programming going on during training make them far less likely to disobey orders (with some notable expectations). And even the expense problem-the Empire has access to a galaxy's worth or planets and resources. Expand the cloning process to other planets besides Kamino.

It doesn't have to be an either or situation. Keep the Clones, and have the recruits be their auxiliaries in combat.
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** Technological plateau. At some point, there's just nothing new to discover or create. You can't build a computer that processes faster than the speed it actually takes an electron to move. You can keep developing/inventing materials that conduct that electron faster, but eventually you'll hit the speed the electron itself can move, at which point there's no such thing as a more efficient conductor. Man-portable blaster weapons are pretty much as efficient as they can get, with EU sources (mostly RPG books) describing all blaster weapons as making various tradeoffs between range, capacity, size, and power. Han's "heavy blaster pistol" does more damage than Leia "sporting blaster pistol," but has a shorter range and fewer shots. The Stormtrooper's blaster rifles do the same damage as Han's blaster pistol, at far greater range and with more shots, but are twice as big. One RPG sourcebook details "The Blaster Wars," where various manufacturers started trying to one-up each other by creating more and more powerful blaster pistols. The winner was the BlasTech T-6 Thunderer, which basically looked like a beefy Stormtrooper blaster rifle, scaled down to ''just'' under the limit to still be considered a pistol. It does outrageous damage, but has pathetic range and handful of shots. Technology in Star Wars just can't get any better, and has been at this plateau for at least the last 4,000 years. Super Star Destroyers aren't any different than the ships used in the Mandalorian Wars 4,000 years ago, they're just ''much'' bigger. Even the Death Star isn't anything new: it's the exact same technology Han has strapped to his hip, just scaled [[UpToEleven up to a jillion.]]

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** Technological plateau. At some point, there's just nothing new to discover or create. You can't build a computer that processes faster than the speed it actually takes an electron to move. You can keep developing/inventing materials that conduct that electron faster, but eventually you'll hit the speed the electron itself can move, at which point there's no such thing as a more efficient conductor. Man-portable blaster weapons are pretty much as efficient as they can get, with EU sources (mostly RPG books) describing all blaster weapons as making various tradeoffs between range, capacity, size, and power. Han's "heavy blaster pistol" does more damage than Leia "sporting blaster pistol," but has a shorter range and fewer shots. The Stormtrooper's blaster rifles do the same damage as Han's blaster pistol, at far greater range and with more shots, but are twice as big. One RPG sourcebook details "The Blaster Wars," where various manufacturers started trying to one-up each other by creating more and more powerful blaster pistols. The winner was the BlasTech T-6 Thunderer, which basically looked like a beefy Stormtrooper blaster rifle, scaled down to ''just'' under the limit to still be considered a pistol. It does outrageous damage, but has pathetic range and handful of shots. Technology in Star Wars just can't get any better, and has been at this plateau for at least the last 4,000 years. Super Star Destroyers aren't any different than the ships used in the Mandalorian Wars 4,000 years ago, they're just ''much'' bigger. Even the Death Star isn't anything new: it's the exact same technology Han has strapped to his hip, just scaled [[UpToEleven up to a jillion.]]
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* Midiclorians are microorganisms in creature's bloodstreams. How can one's genetics cause one to have more of a microorganism? Wouldn't it make a lot more sense for there to just be a force-sensitivity gene?
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** When handling the Expanded Universe Lucas himself forbid two things; ever mentioning Earth and mentioning Yoda's race. Is really pretty clear from lots and lots of interviews and material given by Lucas that the humans in the Star Wars galaxy are not supposed to be related to the homo sapiens spieces native to Earth, they're just HumanAliens, and yes the events happens in the past from our perspective and in a distant galaxy. As if is realistic that an entire different galaxy would have beings identical to humans, well not entirely out of the realm of possibilities in fact the multiple Earths theory on science considers that if the Universe is trully infinite then by pure math there will be somewhere an exact duplicate of Earth, thus, yes HumansAliens do should exists somewhere at least once. The inmensity of the Cosmos is such that it does allows for that. Yes, humanoid aliens had became sort of a bad word for many science fiction enthusiasts but in fact there are scientific papers on why is not so far fetched based on chemistry, physics and biology, [[https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2017-10-31-aliens-may-be-more-us-we-think that intelligence is developed in humanoid vessels]]. In any case, in a universe with the Force having human aliens is by far not the most scientifically unrealistic.

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** When handling the Expanded Universe Lucas himself forbid two things; ever mentioning Earth and mentioning Yoda's race. Is really pretty clear from lots and lots of interviews and material given by Lucas that the humans in the Star Wars galaxy are not supposed to be related to the homo sapiens spieces native to Earth, they're just HumanAliens, and yes the events happens happen in the past from our perspective and in a distant galaxy. As if is realistic that an entire different galaxy would have beings identical to humans, well not entirely out of the realm of possibilities in fact the multiple Earths theory on science considers that if the Universe is trully infinite then by pure math there will be somewhere an exact duplicate of Earth, thus, yes HumansAliens HumanAliens do should exists somewhere at least once. The inmensity of the Cosmos is such that it does allows for that. Yes, humanoid aliens had became sort of a bad word for many science fiction enthusiasts but in fact there are scientific papers on why is not so far fetched based on chemistry, physics and biology, [[https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2017-10-31-aliens-may-be-more-us-we-think that intelligence is developed in humanoid vessels]]. In any case, in a universe with the Force having human aliens is by far not the most scientifically unrealistic.

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*** Well Creator/GeorgeLucas [[https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a32507/george-lucas-sundance-quotes/ himself]] said it wasn't science fiction: "Star Wars really isn't a science-fiction film, it's a fantasy film and a space opera."




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** When handling the Expanded Universe Lucas himself forbid two things; ever mentioning Earth and mentioning Yoda's race. Is really pretty clear from lots and lots of interviews and material given by Lucas that the humans in the Star Wars galaxy are not supposed to be related to the homo sapiens spieces native to Earth, they're just HumanAliens, and yes the events happens in the past from our perspective and in a distant galaxy. As if is realistic that an entire different galaxy would have beings identical to humans, well not entirely out of the realm of possibilities in fact the multiple Earths theory on science considers that if the Universe is trully infinite then by pure math there will be somewhere an exact duplicate of Earth, thus, yes HumansAliens do should exists somewhere at least once. The inmensity of the Cosmos is such that it does allows for that. Yes, humanoid aliens had became sort of a bad word for many science fiction enthusiasts but in fact there are scientific papers on why is not so far fetched based on chemistry, physics and biology, [[https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2017-10-31-aliens-may-be-more-us-we-think that intelligence is developed in humanoid vessels]]. In any case, in a universe with the Force having human aliens is by far not the most scientifically unrealistic.
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* The movies seem [[AmbiguousSituation unclear about this.]] At the end of ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', Luke seems to be the only one who sees the three ghosts. Leia is also force sensitive and doesn't see them, but maybe [[WildMassGuessing only sufficiently powerful force users can see ghosts?]]
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** We know that psychometry (sensing the psychic imprints of past owners or events in objects) is a Force power. Possibly a Force-wielder who's wielding a familiar lightsaber gains some intuitive link to the weapon, that conveys a slight edge that would be lost if physical contact were broken.
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* ''Headscratchers/ObiWanKenobi''
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** The idea of them being separate people came about because, when the first film was written, they were. It later became a [[ThatManIsDead powerful metaphor/turn of phrase]] that the franchise rolled with, but logically and in-universe, it’s a bit more complicated. If you put ATOC Anakin and Vader side by side, few would guess they were the same person because they have very different dispositions, personalities, loyalties, etc. But [[CharacterDevelopment Anakin changed;]] he became quicker to anger, lost his faith in the Jedi and the Republic, etc. At what point he “stopped being Anakin and started being Vader” goes into the Ship Of Theseus problem, but it makes the idea that Anakin reawakened for his redemption rather strange; saying there’s “good” or “a piece of Anakin” still in him would seem to be simply stating he has some similarities to his old self (he still loves his family) which is both evidently true and believable. But many the franchise often acts like there was a fully-formed set of character traits and motivations (i.e. everything that made Anakin Anakin) lying dormant in Vader’s mind, and embracing that similarity made him readopt them, which [[FridgeLogic raises all sorts]] of [[VoodooShark questions.]] If that's how character development works, would Luke go back to being the naive farm boy with dreams of joining the Imperial Academy if Aunt Beru turned out to be alive and he saved her? Would [[Flanderization Han Solo become a smuggler and scoundrel]] again if he became estranged from his new family? [[Film/TheForceAwakens Wait a second...]]


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** The idea of them being separate people came about because, when the first film was written, they were. It later became a [[ThatManIsDead powerful metaphor/turn of phrase]] that the franchise rolled with, but logically and in-universe, it’s a bit more complicated. If you put ATOC Anakin and Vader side by side, few would guess they were the same person because they have very different dispositions, personalities, loyalties, etc. But [[CharacterDevelopment Anakin changed;]] he became quicker to anger, lost his faith in the Jedi and the Republic, etc. At what point he “stopped being Anakin and started being Vader” goes into the Ship Of Theseus problem, but it makes the idea that Anakin reawakened for his redemption rather strange; saying there’s “good” or “a piece of Anakin” still in him would seem to be simply stating he has some similarities to his old self (he still loves his family) which is both evidently true and believable. But many the franchise often acts like there was a fully-formed set of character traits and motivations (i.e. everything that made Anakin Anakin) lying dormant in Vader’s mind, and embracing that similarity made him readopt them, which [[FridgeLogic raises all sorts]] of [[VoodooShark questions.]] If that's how character development works, would Luke go back to being the naive farm boy with dreams of joining the Imperial Academy if Aunt Beru turned out to be alive and he saved her? Would [[Flanderization [[AseopAmnesia Han Solo become a smuggler and scoundrel]] again if he became estranged from his new family? [[Film/TheForceAwakens Wait a second...]]

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** The answer is simpler than any of the above. When Lucas first wrote the film, he hadn't come up with any of the back story that would later be canonically associated with the story. In fact, as late as ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', Lucas was pushing the idea that Obi-Wan was Owen's brother! In any case, in the real world it's not unknown to have kids use the terms "aunt" and "uncle" for people who aren't even related to them. I also think (and this is pure WMG) Lucas was intending to evoke ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' in these early scenes, involving a dreamy kid living on a farm with his uncle and aunt.

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** The answer is simpler than any of the above. When Lucas first wrote the film, he hadn't come up with any of the back story that would later be canonically associated with the story.series. In fact, as late as ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', Lucas was pushing the idea that Obi-Wan was Owen's brother! In any case, in the real world it's not unknown to have kids use the terms "aunt" and "uncle" for people who aren't even related to them. I also think (and this is pure WMG) Lucas was intending to evoke ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' in these early scenes, involving a dreamy kid living on a farm with his uncle and aunt.
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** I suspect also that producers like to return to the desert setting because it brings out the series' roots as somewhat of a SpaceWestern.
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** The answer is simpler than any of the above. When Lucas first wrote the film, he hadn't come up with any of the back story that would later be canonically associated with the story. In fact, as late as ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', Lucas was pushing the idea that Obi-Wan was Owen's brother! In any case, in the real world it's not unknown to have kids use the terms "aunt" and "uncle" for people who aren't even related to them. I also think (and this is pure WMG) Lucas was intending to evoke ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' in these early scenes, involving a dreamy kid living on a farm with his uncle and aunt.
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** The idea of them being separate people came about because, when the first film was written, they were. It later became a [[ThatManIsDead powerful metaphor/turn of phrase]] that the franchise rolled with, but logically and in-universe, it’s a bit more complicated. If you put ATOC Anakin and Vader side by side, few would guess they were the same person because they have very different dispositions, personalities, loyalties, etc. But [[CharacterDevelopment Anakin changed;]] he became quicker to anger, lost his faith in the Jedi and the Republic, etc. At what point he “stopped being Anakin and started being Vader” goes into the Ship Of Theseus problem, but it makes the idea that Anakin reawakened for his redemption rather strange; saying there’s “good” or “a piece of Anakin” still in him would seem to be simply stating he has some similarities to his old self (he still loves his family) which is both evidently true and believable. But many fans seem to conclude there was a fully-formed set of character traits and motivations (i.e. everything that made Anakin Anakin) lying dormant in Vader’s mind, and embracing that similarity made him readopt them, which [[FridgeLogic raises all sorts]] of [[VoodooShark questions.]]


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** The idea of them being separate people came about because, when the first film was written, they were. It later became a [[ThatManIsDead powerful metaphor/turn of phrase]] that the franchise rolled with, but logically and in-universe, it’s a bit more complicated. If you put ATOC Anakin and Vader side by side, few would guess they were the same person because they have very different dispositions, personalities, loyalties, etc. But [[CharacterDevelopment Anakin changed;]] he became quicker to anger, lost his faith in the Jedi and the Republic, etc. At what point he “stopped being Anakin and started being Vader” goes into the Ship Of Theseus problem, but it makes the idea that Anakin reawakened for his redemption rather strange; saying there’s “good” or “a piece of Anakin” still in him would seem to be simply stating he has some similarities to his old self (he still loves his family) which is both evidently true and believable. But many fans seem to conclude the franchise often acts like there was a fully-formed set of character traits and motivations (i.e. everything that made Anakin Anakin) lying dormant in Vader’s mind, and embracing that similarity made him readopt them, which [[FridgeLogic raises all sorts]] of [[VoodooShark questions.]] If that's how character development works, would Luke go back to being the naive farm boy with dreams of joining the Imperial Academy if Aunt Beru turned out to be alive and he saved her? Would [[Flanderization Han Solo become a smuggler and scoundrel]] again if he became estranged from his new family? [[Film/TheForceAwakens Wait a second...]]

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** It might be possible, but at less than hyperspace speeds it would take years to get to any one point.


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**Maybe they had a different name before hand and chose Clone Force 99 after 99 died.
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* There are many instances of the PowerCreepPowerSeep of the EU making the films or other material not make sense but this isn't actually one of them; WordOfGod is that Palpatine can't create Force storms, they're a rare result of two very powerful force-users struggling mentally.



* Rex says that the unit designation "Clone Force 99" in honor of the deceased defective clone 99 was "a nice touch" when Cody introduced the Bad Batch at the Battle of Anaxes, implying that they named themselves that in remembrance of a fellow reject that died in battle as a soldier. This in of itself wouldn't be a problem except ''The Bad Batch'' reveals that the first two digits of their numerical designations start with 99 and that their model designation is literally "CT-99". It's impossible for the Bad Batch to have been created after 99 died, because it takes nine years for a clone to grow and at best 99 died in the first year of the three year long Clone War. Is 99 simply the designator for defective clones and the maintenance clone 99 derived a nickname from the beginning of his number instead of the end like most clones? Further Complicated when Omega says she remembers the Bad Batch growing in Nala Se's lab, as Kaminoan clones only stay in their growth jars until early childhood, where they're flash trained until physically large enough to begin live training. Considering Jango Fett was only hired to provide DNA for the clone army after ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', and Omega doesnt have accelerated aging, she can only be at most thirteen years old. The Batch should have been released before she was old enough to form long term memories.

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* Rex says that the unit designation "Clone Force 99" in honor of the deceased defective clone 99 was "a nice touch" when Cody introduced the Bad Batch at the Battle of Anaxes, implying that they named themselves that in remembrance of a fellow reject that died in battle as a soldier. This in of itself wouldn't be a problem except ''The Bad Batch'' reveals that the first two digits of their numerical designations start with 99 and that their model designation is literally "CT-99". It's impossible for the Bad Batch to have been created after 99 died, because it takes nine years for a clone to grow and at best 99 died in the first year of the three year long Clone War. Is 99 simply the designator designation for defective clones and the maintenance clone 99 derived a nickname from the beginning of his number instead of the end like most clones? Further Complicated when Omega says she remembers the Bad Batch growing in Nala Se's lab, as Kaminoan clones only stay in their growth jars until early childhood, where they're flash trained until physically large enough to begin live training. Considering Jango Fett was only hired to provide DNA for the clone army after ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', and Omega doesnt doesn't have accelerated aging, she can only be at most thirteen years old. The Batch should have been released before she was old enough to form long term memories.



* A lot of fans claim that Anakin getting crippled on Mustafar was the fault of his fall to the Dark Side, and one of the key reasons he (or at least, the Anakin part of Vader) regretted falling, but would he really blame the incident on the dark side? Should he? Yes, he wouldn’t have been fighting Obi-Wan if he hadn’t turned, but Obi-Wan is not the only dangerous thing in the galaxy. When he was previously crippled by Dooku, he didn’t seem to blame his allegiance to the light side or Jedi, even though he probably would have had more reason to, since the Sith, the Jedi’s mortal enemies, are on average far more powerful and willing to inflict severe harm. Injuries in the line of duty are clearly an occupational hazar for Jedi and Sith. And yes, the power the dark side gave him made him over-confident enough to charge at Obi-Wan full tilt and eventually make that ill-fated jump, but it’s not like Sith are incapable of fighting stragetically or knowing when they’re outmatched. It’s not even like the Dark Side wouldn’t grant him the power to regain control of that situation in relatively short order, at least in canon. Seems like Vader’s injuries and suit should be seen as a powerful symbol of how far he’d fallen, but do little to contribute to his personal regret on the matter.

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* A lot of fans claim that Anakin getting crippled on Mustafar was the fault of his fall to the Dark Side, and one of the key reasons he (or at least, the Anakin part of Vader) regretted falling, but would he really blame the incident on the dark side? Should he? Yes, he wouldn’t have been fighting Obi-Wan if he hadn’t turned, but Obi-Wan is not the only dangerous thing in the galaxy. When he was previously crippled by Dooku, he didn’t seem to blame his allegiance to the light side or Jedi, even though he probably would have had more reason to, since the Sith, the Jedi’s mortal enemies, are on average far more powerful and willing to inflict severe harm. Injuries in the line of duty are clearly an occupational hazar hazard for Jedi and Sith. And yes, the power the dark side gave him made him over-confident enough to charge at Obi-Wan full tilt and eventually make that ill-fated jump, but it’s not like Sith are incapable of fighting stragetically strategically or knowing when they’re outmatched. It’s not even like the Dark Side wouldn’t grant him the power to regain control of that situation in relatively short order, at least in canon. Seems like Vader’s injuries and suit should be seen as a powerful symbol of how far he’d fallen, but do little to contribute to his personal regret on the matter.
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*** That's assuming that the Ewok's thermal imprint isn't biologically evolved to match the moon's ambient temperature. They may have evolved in such a way that they wouldn't show up on a thermal sensory input (for example having fur that basically reflects heat back inward (like a jacket or emergency blanket), or having a buddy temperature that is virtually indistinguishable from the moon's ambient temperature (it'd be like a human on a planet with an ambient temp of 98.6°F).
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*** Something to keep in mind, though, is that Vader ISN'T a soldier in the typical sense. He's more or less Palpatine's personal attack dog, dispatched specifically to deal with things that his master needs to deal with harshly. He's less a part of military command or any structure, and more a weapon that the Emperor points at things and lets loose. So keeping that kind of person in a perpetual state of grief, despair, and barely controlled anger is EXACTLY what Palpatine wants. And if Vader DOES try to kill him, well, that's just how the Sith operate.
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** Problem with waiting for the Emperor to let his guard down is the whole psychic powers thing. If Vader is planning to kill the Emperor, the Emperor will likely sense it and be prepared. When Vader ''does'' strike at the Emperor, it's an impulsive act; the Emperor didn't sense it coming, because the time between Vader deciding to kill him and following through on it was effectively zero.

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** Problem with waiting for the Emperor to let his guard down is the whole psychic powers thing. If Vader is planning to kill the Emperor, the Emperor will likely sense it and be prepared. When Vader ''does'' strike at the Emperor, it's an impulsive act; the Emperor didn't sense it coming, because the time between Vader deciding to kill him and following through on it was effectively zero.
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** Problem with waiting for the Emperor to let his guard down is the whole psychic powers thing. If Vader is planning to kill the Emperor, the Emperor will likely sense it and be prepared. When Vader ''does'' strike at the Emperor, it's an impulsive act; the Emperor didn't sense it coming, because the time between Vader deciding to kill him and following through on it was effectively zero.
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** The fact that Star Wars rates an absolute 0 on the [[MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness Mohs Scale]], as compared to say 3 for Avatar, or 6 for 2001:A Space Odyssey. The Force is basically magic with another name, and the star-fighters seem to break about half the laws of physics, and that's only some of the worst of it.

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** The fact that Star Wars rates an absolute 0 on the [[MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness [[SlidingScale/MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness Mohs Scale]], as compared to say 3 for Avatar, or 6 for 2001:A Space Odyssey. The Force is basically magic with another name, and the star-fighters seem to break about half the laws of physics, and that's only some of the worst of it.
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* A lot of fans claim that Anakin getting crippled on Mustafar was the fault of his fall to the Dark Side, and one of the key reasons he (or at least, the Anakin part of Vader) regretted falling, but would he really blame the incident on the dark side? Should he? Yes, he wouldn’t have been fighting Obi-Wan if he hadn’t turned, but Obi-Wan is not the only dangerous thing in the galaxy. When he was previously crippled by Dooku, he didn’t seem to blame his allegiance to the light side or Jedi, even though he probably would have had more reason to, since the Sith, the Jedi’s mortal enemies, are on average far more powerful and willing to inflict severe harm. Injuries in the line of duty are clearly an occupational hazar for Jedi and Sith. And yes, the power the dark side gave him made him over-confident enough to charge at Obi-Wan full tilt and eventually make that ill-fated jump, but it’s not like Sith are incapable of fighting stragetically or knowing when they’re outmatched. It’s not even like the Dark Side wouldn’t grant him the power to regain control of that situation in relatively short order, at least in canon. Seems like Vader’s injuries and suit should be seen as a powerful symbol of how far he’d fallen, but do little to contribute to his personal regret on the matter.
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** There's also a great deal of evidence in both canon and legends that Vader/Anakin literally suffered from schizophrenic multiple personality disorder.

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** There's also a great deal The idea of evidence them being separate people came about because, when the first film was written, they were. It later became a [[ThatManIsDead powerful metaphor/turn of phrase]] that the franchise rolled with, but logically and in-universe, it’s a bit more complicated. If you put ATOC Anakin and Vader side by side, few would guess they were the same person because they have very different dispositions, personalities, loyalties, etc. But [[CharacterDevelopment Anakin changed;]] he became quicker to anger, lost his faith in the Jedi and the Republic, etc. At what point he “stopped being Anakin and started being Vader” goes into the Ship Of Theseus problem, but it makes the idea that Anakin reawakened for his redemption rather strange; saying there’s “good” or “a piece of Anakin” still in him would seem to be simply stating he has some similarities to his old self (he still loves his family) which is both canon evidently true and legends believable. But many fans seem to conclude there was a fully-formed set of character traits and motivations (i.e. everything that Vader/Anakin literally suffered from schizophrenic multiple personality disorder.
made Anakin Anakin) lying dormant in Vader’s mind, and embracing that similarity made him readopt them, which [[FridgeLogic raises all sorts]] of [[VoodooShark questions.]]

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* ''Headscratchers/TheBookOfBobaFett''

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