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18th Mar '18 2:53:07 PM costanton11
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* Massive space ships weaving around like F-16s in a dogfight. Not saying it's not possible, especially given that all ships in ''Franchise/StarTrek'' run on {{Phlebotinum}} and will thus do whatever the writers and SFX guys want them to do. But yeah, it JustBugsMe.

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* Massive space ships weaving around like F-16s in a dogfight. Not saying it's not possible, especially given that all ships in ''Franchise/StarTrek'' run on {{Phlebotinum}} and will thus do whatever the writers and SFX guys want them to do. But yeah, it JustBugsMe.[[Headscratchers/HomePage Just Bugs Me.]]
18th Mar '18 2:52:23 PM costanton11
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*** Point taken re: Kirk. If Janeway was just an admiral in the EU, I wouldn't mind so much, but having her pop up and order Picard around in ''Nemesis'', well... JustBugsMe.

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*** Point taken re: Kirk. If Janeway was just an admiral in the EU, I wouldn't mind so much, but having her pop up and order Picard around in ''Nemesis'', well... JustBugsMe.[[Headscratchers/HomePage Just Bugs Me.]]
11th Mar '18 12:57:45 PM thatsnumberwang
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** [[TechnologyLevels Assuming that just because Earth's early industrial period didn't yet have machine guns, jeeps and radar, doesn't mean that these aliens wouldn't.]] Terrible example of the IdiotBall there, especially as the ''Enterprise'' should have had zero trouble using aerial surveillance alone in working out both their technology level and where their settlements were in relation to the Away team.
11th Mar '18 11:34:39 AM starman117
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** They say there arenít many aliens on the planet and theyíre presumably quite primitive so I assume they were expecting to never encounter them, to me early industrial means 19th century so perhaps they didnít realise the aliens were as advanced as they were. They must have had radar to detect them so quickly and be able to muster a response in time. Or perhaps these guys were some kind of desert bandits and it was unfortunate they saw the shuttle land. Either way whilst they possibly should have been more careful about avoiding the locals once they encountered them shooting their way out was the best option to preserve the prime directive. Better to have a bit of a mystery over the strange looking people seen only at a distance and the advanced tech seen by a few dozen people than actually getting captured and the aliens dissecting the enterprise crew and capturing the shuttle. The latter would cause far more disruption. Maybe Starfleet brought in a more sensible prime directive policy during the Dominion War, youíre not expected to die to defend it any more.
4th Mar '18 4:29:05 AM thespecialneedsgroup
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*** They didn't just build any ship, though. They built a ship that outclassed the ''Enterprise''-E in nearly every way. And keep in mind, Starfleet's mandate for the ''Sovereign''-class almost certainly contained the phrase, "capable of engaging and defeating Borg vessels." In fact, there's every indication that the ''Scimitar'' outclasses contemporary Romulan warships--two of which it absolutely curb-stomped. Romulan warp drives are canonically slower than those employed by the Federation. In the series, a Warbird ''does'' manage to keep pace with the ''Enterprise''-D, but it was at the cost of irreparably damaging its engines. The ''Enterprise''-E is even faster than her predecessor, and the ''Scimitar'' was able to easily overtake her. It can also fire its weapons and operate its deflector shields while cloaked, which the ''Valdore'' and her sister ship were apparently incapable of doing. Designing and building a ship that much more advanced than anything in the Romulan or Federation fleet is something that would require a deep and comprehensive understanding of a variety of fields of engineering. Slaves--even slaves that are experienced in constructing warships--shouldn't be able to do it.

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*** They didn't just build any ship, though. They built a ship that outclassed the ''Enterprise''-E in nearly every way. And keep in mind, Starfleet's mandate for the ''Sovereign''-class almost certainly contained some variation of the phrase, phrase "capable of engaging and defeating Borg vessels." In fact, there's every indication that the ''Scimitar'' outclasses contemporary Romulan warships--two of which it absolutely curb-stomped. Romulan warp drives are canonically slower than those employed by the Federation. In the series, a Warbird ''does'' manage to keep pace with the ''Enterprise''-D, but it was at the cost of irreparably damaging its engines. The ''Enterprise''-E is even faster than her predecessor, and the ''Scimitar'' was able to easily overtake her. It can also fire its weapons and operate its deflector shields while cloaked, which the ''Valdore'' and her sister ship were apparently incapable of doing. Designing and building a ship that much more advanced than anything in the Romulan or Federation fleet is something that would require a deep and comprehensive understanding of a variety of fields of engineering. Slaves--even slaves that are experienced in constructing warships--shouldn't be able to do it.
26th Feb '18 9:53:32 AM Bense
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25th Feb '18 10:28:23 PM thespecialneedsgroup
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*** They didn't just build any ship, though. They built a ship that outclassed the ''Enterprise''-E in nearly every way. And keep in mind, Starfleet's mandate for the ''Sovereign''-class almost certainly contained the phrase, "capable of engaging and defeating Borg vessels." In fact, there's every indication that the ''Scimitar'' outclasses contemporary Romulan warships--two of which it absolutely curb-stomped. Romulan warp drives are canonically slower than those employed by the Federation. In the series, a Warbird ''does'' manage to keep pace with the ''Enterprise''-D, but it was at the cost of irreparably damaging its engines. The ''Enterprise''-E is even faster than her predecessor, and the ''Scimitar'' was able to easily overtake her. It can also fire its weapons and operate its deflector shields while cloaked, which the ''Valdore'' and her sister ship were apparently incapable of doing. Designing and building a ship that advanced is something that would require a deep and comprehensive understanding of a variety of fields of engineering. Slaves--even slaves that are experienced in constructing warships--shouldn't be able to do it.

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*** They didn't just build any ship, though. They built a ship that outclassed the ''Enterprise''-E in nearly every way. And keep in mind, Starfleet's mandate for the ''Sovereign''-class almost certainly contained the phrase, "capable of engaging and defeating Borg vessels." In fact, there's every indication that the ''Scimitar'' outclasses contemporary Romulan warships--two of which it absolutely curb-stomped. Romulan warp drives are canonically slower than those employed by the Federation. In the series, a Warbird ''does'' manage to keep pace with the ''Enterprise''-D, but it was at the cost of irreparably damaging its engines. The ''Enterprise''-E is even faster than her predecessor, and the ''Scimitar'' was able to easily overtake her. It can also fire its weapons and operate its deflector shields while cloaked, which the ''Valdore'' and her sister ship were apparently incapable of doing. Designing and building a ship that much more advanced than anything in the Romulan or Federation fleet is something that would require a deep and comprehensive understanding of a variety of fields of engineering. Slaves--even slaves that are experienced in constructing warships--shouldn't be able to do it.
25th Feb '18 10:26:14 PM thespecialneedsgroup
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*** They didn't just build any ship, though. They built a ship that outclassed the ''Enterprise''-E in nearly every way. And keep in mind, Starfleet's mandate for the ''Sovereign''-class almost certainly contained the phrase, "capable of engaging and defeating Borg vessels." In fact, there's every indication that the ''Scimitar'' outclasses contemporary Romulan warships--two of which it absolutely curb-stomped. Romulan warp drives are canonically slower than those employed by the Federation. In the series, a Warbird ''does'' manage to keep pace with the ''Enterprise''-D, but it was at the cost of irreparably damaging its engines. The ''Enterprise''-E is even faster than her predecessor, and the ''Scimitar'' was able to easily overtake her. It can also fire its weapons and operate its deflector shields while cloaked, which the ''Valdore'' and her sister ship were apparently incapable of doing. Designing and building a ship that advanced is something that would require a deep and comprehensive understanding of a variety of fields of engineering. Slaves--even slaves that are experienced in constructing warships--shouldn't be able to do it.


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