History Headscratchers / StarTrekNemesis

15th May '16 4:49:28 PM NewVirginiaCreeper
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** It's no mystery: recall that they were going to have two weddings, the other one being on Betazed.
9th May '16 2:26:24 PM costanton11
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* Why wasn't Lwaxana Troi at her own daughter's wedding?
7th Apr '16 9:39:59 PM Statzkeen
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*** Also, not all evil tyrants have ruined their first name. Joseph Stalin was responsible for millions of deaths, but there are still plenty of people named Joeseph.

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*** Also, not all evil tyrants have ruined their first name. Joseph Stalin was responsible for millions of deaths, but there are still plenty of people named Joeseph.
Joseph.
7th Apr '16 9:39:39 PM Statzkeen
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**** Also, not all evil tyrants have ruined their first name. Joseph Stalin was responsible for millions of deaths, but there are still plenty of people named Joeseph.
29th Feb '16 9:03:08 AM Darth_Rasputin32898
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* Minor one, during Deanna's search for the Scimitar by mind-locating the viceroy. Why the need to play handsies with Worf? Didn't she go through a long and taxing bridge commander test way back when? Surely there was a chapter involving manning the tactical console.
** That was on a Galaxy-class ship, though, and by Nemesis it's been ten years since then. There is probably a recertification process for bridge officers (especially when transitioning to an entirely different class) and it doesn't seem out of character for Troi (who struggled so hard the first time and clearly didn't require it to fulfill her duties beforehand) to quietly opt-out
** Alternatively, considering its a major tactical situation, maybe it was more efficient? The battle was unlikely to be decided by that one shot, so as soon as the Scimitar decloaked, Worf would have to take back over anyway and they'd lose valuable seconds in Troi stepping aside and him stepping up compared to her just taking her hand away. Also, if the Scimitar was able to recloak again, they'd have to do it all over again, costing more seconds. Also, iirc (unless I'm remembering fanon as canon) - doesn't the LCARS interface used in TNG era ships mean that each officer can reconfigure the interface to their personal preferences? Maybe Worf's preferences are non-standard and to avoid confusion, Troi was also using her abilities on Worf to direct him rather than trying to figure out the consol herself.
* Shinzon has a grudge against the Romulans for creating him, lumbering him with a genetic disease, and consigning him to a life of misery in the Reman mines. Therefore, he wants to utterly annihilate... er, Earth.
** This was explained somewhat in the chunk of footage that was left on the editing room floor. Shinzon's lifespan was going to be pretty short even if he had succeeded in stealing Picard's blood, and he in fact killed most those responsible for his creation when he took out the Romulan Senate. His main goal was in fact to go down in history by destroying Earth, which would bring about the collapse of the Federation government and pave the way for a full-scale Romulan invasion. A bit of a hackneyed motive to be sure, but it makes ''much'' more sense than what we got.
** His talk about the Remans being a race "bred for war" implies that he and they are basically a bunch of [[BloodKnight Blood Knights]] who want to start a war, this time on their own terms and not as slaves of the Romulan Empire. By extension they can be read as trying to show the Romulans up, taking out the Federation in one shot after centuries of similar Romulan plots failed. It's still pretty vague, though.
** The Enterprise received six positronic signals, but only one of Data's components (his postrionic brain) would register such a signal. Each of B-4's parts also apparently has its own power source, if the "zombie hand from the sand" is any indicator.
* Why isn't Worf the one to go on the suicide run on the Reman ship? He lived through the last big war, and his religion actually ''requires'' him to seek a glorious death. In the other movies Picard being the one to go in is due to circumstances or necessity, but here it makes no sense.
** Because he was still fighting off the Reman boarding partym and in the novelization, a bad disruptor hit forced him into Sickbay; he was completely occupied in either case. Plus, he wasn't even on the bridge when Picard announced this decision, so he couldn't object even if he wanted to.
* Shinzon's MilitaryCoup makes very little sense in terms of the larger ''Franchise/StarTrek'' setting. How did the conspirators manage to get their conspiracy past the Tal Shiar, the ''notoriously'' intrusive StateSec agency of the Romulan Star Empire (who in particular have a nasty InterServiceRivalry with the regular military)? How were they planning to pass a human off as praetor to the frankly [[FantasticRacism quite racist]] Romulans, and how were they to explain where in the hell he came from and why he's using what ought to be SlaveMooks as his private army?
** They literally state earlier in the movie that he must have had Romulan collaborators.
* Admittedly, he doesn't want the promotion, but in what just universe is Captain Jean-Luc Picard, saviour of the Federation on more than one occasion, taking orders from a two-bit vice-admiral who was ''not even born'' when he was promoted to Captain and managed to screw up the one mission she had been officially given by Starfleet in seven years of Captaincy? (That is, search, locate, and apprehend a ship containing marquis and crew.) What does this say about the quality of Starfleet's Admirals???
** Picard was offered promotion to admiral TWICE during TNG. He turned it down both times, because he liked being a starship captain and didn't want a desk job. It was also hinted (but not directly stated) that he had been offered admiral even before he took command of the 1701-D. It's also very likely (but again not directly stated) that he was offered admiral again during the Dominion War (also turning it down). When Janeway got back from the Delta quadrant, it was shortly after the Dominion War ended (a war that caused the Federation to lose a LOT of people). Starfleet was a lot more desperate for people then, and Janeway just happened to take the first promotion that was offered her, while Picard didn't. It's also very likely that Janeway was KickedUpstairs, because while she did get Voyager home, she was never a very effective captain or leader. Also, at the end of Generations, Kirk WARNED Picard. "Don't let them promote you or transfer you. You belong on the bridge of that ship." Kirk had firsthand experience with losing his starship command by being promoted to Admiral.
** That they reward people who unite two hostile crews, cross a considerable portion of a hostile, uncharted quadrant, making friendly contact with dozens of species, saved the galaxy from a species from another dimension or two and crippled the borg? And they don't punish people for getting grabbed by hyper advanced technology against their will. And hell, she DID bring them back like she was supposed to.
** Some people, like Website/SFDebris, have theorized that Janeway had gotten so exhausted after many years stranded in the Delta Quadrant that she couldn't ''bear'' to take another command, let alone immediately after finally getting home. Or that she was KickedUpstairs to get rid of her.
** Also, Starfleet may have figured that Picard is far more useful out there "on the field" than chained to a desk job. Picard has been the best at being the flag ship's captain since Kirk, and they want to profit from that as long as possible.
11th Feb '16 4:37:22 AM SkyCharger
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25th Jan '16 5:04:15 PM thespecialneedsgroup
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*** While it isn't strictly canon, the extended universe novels established that Picard had a very drastic fall from grace with Starfleet Command after the events of ''Film/StarTrekInsurrection''--probably only keeping his command because he was ''THE'' Jean-Luc Picard. And if you look at the facts of his career out of context, it's not hard to see why some of the brass might be wary of him--and I'm not even talking about Wolf 359. How many prominent Starfleet admirals worked closely with Picard over the years and ended up ruined, in prison, or worse? We know the kind of man Picard is, and that every one of those officers did it to themselves, but someone who's only met Picard in passing might not see that. And that could very easily be true for quite a bit of his contact over the years. In fact, one of those ruined admirals pretty much made that exact point in ''The Drumhead:''

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*** While it isn't strictly canon, the extended universe novels established that Picard had a very drastic fall from grace with Starfleet Command after the events of ''Film/StarTrekInsurrection''--probably only keeping his command because he was ''THE'' Jean-Luc Picard. And if you look at the facts of his career out of context, it's not hard to see why some of the brass might be wary of him--and I'm not even talking about Wolf 359. How many prominent Starfleet admirals worked closely with Picard over the years and ended up ruined, in prison, or worse? We know the kind of man Picard is, and that every one of those officers did it to themselves, but someone who's only met Picard in passing might not see that. And that could very easily be true for quite a bit of his contact conduct over the years. In fact, one of those ruined admirals pretty much made that exact point in ''The Drumhead:''
22nd Jan '16 1:14:58 AM SkyCharger
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23rd Dec '15 10:03:16 AM Durison
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** What?! Data wasn't leaving! The scene went like this:
*** Picard: While you're happily settling in on the Titan, I will be training my new first officer. You all know him. He's a tyrannical martinet who will never, ever, allow me to go on away missions.
*** Data: That is the regulation, sir. Starfleet code section 12, paragraph 4...
*** Picard: Mr. Data...
*** Data: Sir?
*** Picard: Shut up.
*** Data: Yes, sir.
*** Picard: (aside) Fifteen years, I've been waiting to say that.
15th Dec '15 9:51:48 AM Bense
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** Perhaps Data doesn't feel he's ready for his own command yet, and being an immortal android he doesn't feel any urgency towards reaching that goal.
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