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**** This would explain the film crew being so blase about the death-by-skateboard-explosion of their big star, too.
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** Maybe his mind control? Speaking of which...
*''Mind control''? I know the sixth book wasn't written yet when the script was finished, but even not having read the books at all, I still expected what turned out to be the canon explanation for Ramona's attraction to Gideon just from the "he has a way of getting into my head" line. And the idea that [[spoiler:Ramona can't get over Gideon because she can't get away from him, and even if she doesn't ''want'' to be with him he's still the literal man of her dreams]] is way way ''way'' more poetic than a freaking mind-control chip. WTF?
*''Mind control''? I know the sixth book wasn't written yet when the script was finished, but even not having read the books at all, I still expected what turned out to be the canon explanation for Ramona's attraction to Gideon just from the "he has a way of getting into my head" line. And the idea that [[spoiler:Ramona can't get over Gideon because she can't get away from him, and even if she doesn't ''want'' to be with him he's still the literal man of her dreams]] is way way ''way'' more poetic than a freaking mind-control chip. WTF?
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* Why are the other exes so devoted to Gideon? Roxy even says if he can't have her no one can. It would make sense if they were fighting for themselves, or to test Scott, or just to mess with Ramona, but why fight so hard for just some random guy?
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* Why wouldn't he hit a girl if shes trying to murder you it is nonsensical and stupid not to fight her when she has fricken ninja teleportation powers fight back!
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** It's been argued, and stated by Bryan Lee O'Malley himself, that Scott sees himself as the hero, but is actually a pretty naive, even bumbling guy. The action poses he pulls on the covers, any flashbacks within the books, and how he acted with Knives are how Scott sees himself, while in real life, all of his friends can regularly put him in his place. It's certainly open to your interpretation to what degree he's a cool guy that occasionally has a brain fart, or a dumb guy who can occasionally kick ass with confidence. In my opinion, his depiction is consistent throughout the series, but the disconnect between confident Scott and dumb/whiny/childish Scott takes a few issues to realize, and when I read Volume 1 the second time through, it was more obvious to me. Because the first image of Scott anyone ever has is his action pose on the cover, and his first scene is bragging about Knives, you're primed to interpret him as super-confident even if he's not (while the inverse is true of the movie: everyone knows Michael Cera as meek, and none of the trailers featured his cocky moments of dialog, so everyone assumed Scott himself was just another meek character).
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* This has very little bearing on the plot, but is this one of those systems where you lose your progress when you respawn? Considering poor Scott never seems to level the entire movie (until he gets to Gideon), it seems fairly cruel to make him lose the level he gained the first time around. Even if the new one does offer better stats.
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** None of the old-school, 8- or 16-bit games that Scott Pilgrim's inspired by had automatic saves. I totally wish they did. On the other hand, I don't know of any games that made 1UP's into automatic save points either, so I can't tie the movie's logic to any specific examples. As a side thing, if the movie's like the Scott Pilgrim tie-in game, Scott would have kept his leveled up stats even after restarting, and might have had to level up multiple times while losing to Gideon over and over, until his stats were high enough to take him down.
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*** Really? In the movie they only ever say Scott has to defeat the evil exes, not kill them. Todd was pretty much defeated.
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* Did anyone else think that Scott's character seemed to take a complete about-face between volumes 1 and 2? In ''Scott Pilgrim's Precious Little Life'', Scott fires off snappy lines like the best of them, really only has one LameComeback, doesn't blink an eye when Patel attacks him and seems generally smart, well-adjusted and self-aware, but then he spends most of the following volumes running away from fights and making an ass out of himself. It's like he gets progressively dumber the closer he gets to Ramona.
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** In the game, Stage 6 is a trek through the woods, with the boss being Nega-Scott. In the books that could be the case as well.
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** In the game, Stage 6 is a trek through the woods, with the boss being Nega-Scott. In the books that could be the case as well.well.
* This has very little bearing on the plot, but is this one of those systems where you lose your progress when you respawn? Considering poor Scott never seems to level the entire movie (until he gets to Gideon), it seems fairly cruel to make him lose the level he gained the first time around. Even if the new one does offer better stats.
* This has very little bearing on the plot, but is this one of those systems where you lose your progress when you respawn? Considering poor Scott never seems to level the entire movie (until he gets to Gideon), it seems fairly cruel to make him lose the level he gained the first time around. Even if the new one does offer better stats.
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** 7 exes, 7 levels, presumably the twins are both 5 & 6
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** In the game, Stage 6 is a trek through the woods, with the boss being Nega-Scott. In the books that could be the case as well.
** In the game, Stage 6 is a trek through the woods, with the boss being Nega-Scott. In the books that could be the case as well.
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* Why is the Chaos Theatre considered level 7 when there were only five boss battles (and thus five levels) before that?that?
** 7 exes, 7 levels, presumably the twins are both 5 & 6
** 7 exes, 7 levels, presumably the twins are both 5 & 6
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** Out of genuine curiosity, I remember separate panels of Scott under blankets with Kim and Envy, but when was it implied Ramona was his first? Or that Kim and Envy were only "dry sex"?
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**** In the movie, Roxie mentioned that she can only be Defeated by Scott's hands thanks to League rules. Since Ramona had delivered a pretty sound beatdown earlier, the [[ForMassiveDamage back-of-knee-poke]] was probably CherryTapping.
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** I assume you mean the movie, because I couldn't find a mention of her birthday when she invites Scott to meet her parents in Volume 2. WordOfGod is that the film takes place within the span of a few weeks or so, rather than the year-plus of the graphic novels, so one assumes her birthday still hadn't taken place by the end of the film. It seems safe to say that a naive, over-eager 17-year-old who's "in love" with the first boy she ever kissed would probably invite him to her birthday far, far in advance of its actual date.
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** The rules of the duels were "to the death". Ergo, the duel doesn't end 'til one person's dead.
* So, in the beginning of the film, it's established that Knives is 17. Then, partway through, she invites Scott to meet her parents for her birthday party. But then afterward, she's still identified as being 17. Eh?
* So, in the beginning of the film, it's established that Knives is 17. Then, partway through, she invites Scott to meet her parents for her birthday party. But then afterward, she's still identified as being 17. Eh?
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***The film at least gives evidence to the respawning theory. When fighting Roxy, Ramona tells Scott her weakness is the back of her knees, and he just taps them. Roxy instantly starts convulsing in pleasure ([[RuleOfFunny cuz it's funny]]) and then bursts into coins. Scott just barely touched her weakness, and its implied that Ramona paid special attention to that area "when [they] were making out" and if one tap caused her to burst into coins one can assume Ramona would get similar results from whatever they were doing. Since Roxy is still alive post being dumped, one can assume all the evil exes can indeed respawn. As to why they don't bother any main characters after that, theres probably some unspoken League rule that says if they lose they have to leave Scott and Ramona alone from now on... Or they'll be around for a sequel.
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*** No - Gideon was Ramona's last boyfriend, and he formed the league after she dumped him. Between the league forming and Ramona meeting Scott, it seems there hasn't been anyone else.
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** 'Cause them's the rules. You don't let the boss live after you've stunned them!
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* Why did Scott blow up Todd? The Evil Exes gave him ample opportunity to leave Ramona be, but when Todd loses his powers and ceases to be a real threat, Scott, without waiting for him to attack, "kills" him.
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** I read that scene as Ramona arriving just after the kiss and Scott running away to avoid having to introduce everyone.
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** It should probably be noted, in case there's any confusion, that in Canada, the terms "college" and "university" are somewhat interchangeable - as in high school graduates can go directly into "university" the following year. The only difference is that, in general terms, one goes to "college" to learn practical trades (mechanics, farming, plumbing, etc.) with hands-on courses, while "university" is oriented more towards theoretical coursework. As someone attending an Ontario university, let me tell you: while going to college pretty much guarantees you work after graduating, a university graduate (who'd be 22, like the characters) tends not to do as well (with some exceptions; generally, commerce and hard science students find work in their field somewhat easily, but all of the characters strike me as general art majors [music, english, etc.], and definitely not commerce or engineer students).
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** Going back through the books definitely makes his spending ''lots'' of time with Joseph more noticeable.
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** That's a very good question, maybe [[spoiler: when Gideon said he spiced up a few of Scott's memories, he added those or made them more exciting]]. I consider that part of my personal Fanon.
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*** At least some of them would count as murder. When he headbutts Todd so hard the man bursts, the situation lacks the immediacy necessary to count as self-defense. Pattel gets steamrollered so much that it'd be difficult to prove he has the ability to seriously damage Scott (necessary to show legal self-defense), although Canadian caselaw on whether fireballs count as deadly weapons is not exactly complete. Enemies respawning once you leave the screen is thematically appropriate for the setting, so it's a good justification even if there's no evidence. On the downside, that means Gideon's still wandering around, although losing seven million (Canadian) dollars might be enough punishment.
*** At least some of them would count as murder. When he headbutts Todd so hard the man bursts, the situation lacks the immediacy necessary to count as self-defense. Pattel gets steamrollered so much that it'd be difficult to prove he has the ability to seriously damage Scott (necessary to show legal self-defense), although Canadian caselaw on whether fireballs count as deadly weapons is not exactly complete. Enemies respawning once you leave the screen is thematically appropriate for the setting, so it's a good justification even if there's no evidence. On the downside, that means Gideon's still wandering around, although losing seven million (Canadian) dollars might be enough punishment.
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** [[spoiler: Subspace basically allow you jump through subconscious to subconscious from either dreams or near death states. When Ramona goes through the Subspace, she pays a price: Gideon can follow them wherever he goes and do whatever he wants (A fraction of the profits goes to Gideon), he used to mess around with Scott and his friend as well as stalk her. Ramona's handbag is the collective of her various personality she had adopted to escape from her past, namely Gideon. The original Ramona who met Gideon could never leave that memory behind and it took Scott entering Ramona's mind to get him out of her head. And for the glow is whenever you "walk in subspace", regardless of if you are going through a door or not and Gideon uses it as a toll booth on Ramona]]
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** [[spoiler: Subspace basically allow you someone to jump through subconscious to subconscious from either dreams dreaming (Either through sleep or near death states. lost in thought). When Ramona goes through the Subspace, she pays a price: Gideon can follow them wherever he goes and do whatever he wants (A fraction of the profits goes to Gideon), he used to mess around with Scott and his friend as well as stalk her. her when Scott started falling in love with Ramona. Ramona's handbag is the collective of her various personality personalities she had adopted to escape from her past, namely Gideon. The original Ramona who met Gideon could never leave that memory behind and it took Scott entering Ramona's mind to get him out of her head. And for the glow is whenever you "walk in subspace", regardless of if you are going through a door or not and Gideon uses it as a toll booth on Ramona]]]]
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* Possible question about Scott's sexual history, did he really slept with Kim and Envy or was Ramona really his first? And I wonder why all of his sexual encounters always been of the "dry sex" variety.
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** [[spoiler: Subspace basically allow you jump through subconscious to subconscious from either dreams or near death states. When Ramona goes through the Subspace, she pays a price: Gideon can follow them wherever he goes and do whatever he wants (A fraction of the profits goes to Gideon), he used to mess around with Scott and his friend as well as stalk her. Ramona's handbag is the collective of her various personality she had adopted to escape from her past, namely Gideon. The original Ramona who met Gideon could never leave that memory behind and it took Scott entering Ramona's mind to get him out of her head.]]
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** [[spoiler: Subspace basically allow you jump through subconscious to subconscious from either dreams or near death states. When Ramona goes through the Subspace, she pays a price: Gideon can follow them wherever he goes and do whatever he wants (A fraction of the profits goes to Gideon), he used to mess around with Scott and his friend as well as stalk her. Ramona's handbag is the collective of her various personality she had adopted to escape from her past, namely Gideon. The original Ramona who met Gideon could never leave that memory behind and it took Scott entering Ramona's mind to get him out of her head.]] And for the glow is whenever you "walk in subspace", regardless of if you are going through a door or not and Gideon uses it as a toll booth on Ramona]]
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* Gideon's plot in the book. I couldn't understand the parts with [[spoiler: the handbag being Ramona's soul, or how Gideon was in Ramona's head as he was fighting scott, or the whole business of the glow and subspace he mentioned making a profit of.]] Can someone help me please?
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* Gideon's plot in the book. I couldn't understand the parts with [[spoiler: the handbag being Ramona's soul, or how Gideon was in Ramona's head as he was fighting scott, Scott, or the whole business of the glow and subspace he mentioned making a profit of.]] Can someone help me please?please?
** [[spoiler: Subspace basically allow you jump through subconscious to subconscious from either dreams or near death states. When Ramona goes through the Subspace, she pays a price: Gideon can follow them wherever he goes and do whatever he wants (A fraction of the profits goes to Gideon), he used to mess around with Scott and his friend as well as stalk her. Ramona's handbag is the collective of her various personality she had adopted to escape from her past, namely Gideon. The original Ramona who met Gideon could never leave that memory behind and it took Scott entering Ramona's mind to get him out of her head.]]
** [[spoiler: Subspace basically allow you jump through subconscious to subconscious from either dreams or near death states. When Ramona goes through the Subspace, she pays a price: Gideon can follow them wherever he goes and do whatever he wants (A fraction of the profits goes to Gideon), he used to mess around with Scott and his friend as well as stalk her. Ramona's handbag is the collective of her various personality she had adopted to escape from her past, namely Gideon. The original Ramona who met Gideon could never leave that memory behind and it took Scott entering Ramona's mind to get him out of her head.]]
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***The guy let Scott live in his place and eat his food for far longer than Stephen or Kim ever did. It was probably because he didn't have time to go to the party.
