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* What was the point of Alice? This is from a troper that likes the games and somewhat likes the movies. But it seems as if the only two reasons for her existence is to: 1. Distinct the movies from the games. 2. Make her basically a what if someone made a GameShark human.
*** ThirdOptionAdaptation is in play here. The point of using Alice, and thus the looser interpretation, was to prevent people from feeling invalidated when they made a playthrough with only Jill or only Chris in the first game. Rather than retelling the story exactly with the characters and choosing one of the protagonists to be the 'true' protagonist, they went with the safer route and made an OC along with giving her MarySue traits in order to make her credible in the series.
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** I thought they ripped their skins in the process of forcing themselves through the metal grates...

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*** This troper assumed he merged with a pack...nest...pod...''group'' of swimming crocodiles or something.

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*** This troper I assumed he merged with a pack...nest...pod...''group'' of swimming crocodiles or something.



** Six years ago, this troper had a case of IKnewIt while discussing the issue with a fellow player. I accurately predicted that Wesker's super virus wasn't perfect and required some special stuff just to keep it up and running. It is a major plot point of the final chapter of [=RE5=], and Wesker's one and only weakness. That probably also what made this virus useless for a SuperSoldier program like the one Irving was working on. Imagine that Wesker's body needs something that probably costs more than 200000 bucks per shot and need one shot per 24 hours just to keep running correctly.

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** Six years ago, this troper I had a case of IKnewIt while discussing the issue with a fellow player. I accurately predicted that Wesker's super virus wasn't perfect and required some special stuff just to keep it up and running. It is a major plot point of the final chapter of [=RE5=], and Wesker's one and only weakness. That probably also what made this virus useless for a SuperSoldier program like the one Irving was working on. Imagine that Wesker's body needs something that probably costs more than 200000 bucks per shot and need one shot per 24 hours just to keep running correctly.



*** Says who? This troper thinks a game where you shamble around looking for people to devour would be pretty cool.

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*** Says who? This troper thinks I think a game where you shamble around looking for people to devour would be pretty cool.



** This troper has been under the impression that in game canon, the characters are never bitten/clawed/ect/ect. The only exceptions were Jill Valentine and the Outbreak characters, who all required some manner of cure. After all, the characters are only bitten or clawed or whatever if the player screws up. It is possible to get a no-damage run, if you're good enough. (This troper has never managed to do that, but knows people who have. I envy them greatly.)
** On the subject of the Cure, they did eventually develop a viable vaccine, which was important to the plot in the CG movie. This troper hasn't played [=RE3=], but even if they had the formula (which they probably did in the form of the Mercenary's memory, which isn't exactly the best for a vaccine formula), it would still take several months to years to synthesis a viable, mass producible vaccine they can give to everyone.

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** This troper has I had been under the impression that in game canon, the characters are never bitten/clawed/ect/ect. The only exceptions were Jill Valentine and the Outbreak characters, who all required some manner of cure. After all, the characters are only bitten or clawed or whatever if the player screws up. It is possible to get a no-damage run, if you're good enough. (This troper has (I have never managed to do that, but knows people who have. I envy them greatly.)
** On the subject of the Cure, they did eventually develop a viable vaccine, which was important to the plot in the CG movie. This troper hasn't I haven't played [=RE3=], but even if they had the formula (which they probably did in the form of the Mercenary's memory, which isn't exactly the best for a vaccine formula), it would still take several months to years to synthesis a viable, mass producible vaccine they can give to everyone.



** Forgoing the Lulz to be had over a complaint about bugs in this Trope, the reason is a lot of people are afraid of Bugs and Arachnids. Easier to tap into an existing fear than try to create a new one and fail.

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** Forgoing the Lulz to be had over a complaint about bugs in this Trope, the The reason is a lot of people are afraid of Bugs and Arachnids. Easier to tap into an existing fear than try to create a new one and fail.



** It seems clear that Wesker was putting on the American accent to fool his STARS teams that he was a stand-up, all-American good guy leader. He didn't use it in Zero because he never interacted with any STARS in that game, and after his HeelFaceTurn in REmake/original, he had no reason to keep up TheMasquerade any longer, so returned to his natural accent. Which being an EvilBrit accent, helped underline his villainy, of course.



*** Original troper who started this conversation stream here, what I meant by "would 9/11 have happened" is not "would Bin Ladin have tried it in the face of {{=BOWs=}}" it's "would the US have implemented the same security measures they did in the real world after 9/11 back in 1998?" It's more of a what-if question which is never going to get touched by the series itself.
*** There doesn't appear to be a good answer to that. The only good security measure against the BOWs would be some kind of travel quarantine for a few days longer than whatever the average (or longest if you're smart) incubation period is for a BOWs development. Checking people for guns wouldn't help. They probably implemented entirely different protocols if at all and the games never touch on this largely because only RE6 at all touches on civilian life after the original games which all take place over a few weeks.

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*** Original troper who started this conversation stream here, what I meant by "would 9/11 have happened" is not "would Bin Ladin have tried it in the face of {{=BOWs=}}" [=BOWs=]" it's "would the US have implemented the same security measures they did in the real world after 9/11 back in 1998?" It's more of a what-if question which is never going to get touched by the series itself.
*** There doesn't appear to be a good answer to that. The only good security measure against the BOWs [=BOWs=] would be some kind of travel quarantine for a few days longer than whatever the average (or longest if you're smart) incubation period is for a BOWs [=BOWs=] development. Checking people for guns wouldn't help. They probably implemented entirely different protocols if at all and the games never touch on this largely because only RE6 at all touches on civilian life after the original games which all take place over a few weeks.



** What the above troper calls "stupid", this troper calls "deliberate". They planned to spread the T-virus all over the world. It was just some unlucky spanner in the works that the virus got sprung prematurely under Raccoon City, to the point where certain individuals (*cough*Alice*cough*) could withstand and defeat them.

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** What the above troper calls "stupid", this troper calls I call "deliberate". They planned to spread the T-virus all over the world. It was just some unlucky spanner in the works that the virus got sprung prematurely under Raccoon City, to the point where certain individuals (*cough*Alice*cough*) could withstand and defeat them.
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** She's set to appear in the third CGI film, which will be canon and set some time before RE6, although we don't know what her role will be yet. She's also in Biohazard: The Stage (a theatre play which is only on in Japan), where she's become a teacher, although that's probably not canon.
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*** The Insects and Arachnids we see are the "winners" of the whole "eat your' own kind" contest, that is why there is probably so few.
** Also it's explained that species lower on the evolutionary ladder don't mutate as much, Infected Insects and Arachnids only gain mass.
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** [[MetalSlug Well Actually....]]

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** Explained in Umbrella Chronicles for the Wii: Albert Wesker, who had long since turned against Umbrella, had infiltrated a russian Umbrella base while Chris and Jill were doing the same to deal with the bio-weapon threat. While Chris and Jill were taking care of T.A.L.O.S, Wesker dealt with Sergei, won, stole all of Umbrella's files from its main computer, erased said computer, then testified anonymously against Umbrella.
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* How did the US government know that Umbrella was responsible for Raccoon City becoming infested with zombies and various other monsters, to the point they had to nuke it off the face of the Earth? I thought it was established that any evidence of exactly what caused the zombie outbreak in Raccoon City went up in flames ''with'' Raccoon City.
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** Well they still don't know precisely what went on down there. The entire team that was sent down there to find out are dead. I don't think they knew exactly why it was suddenly locked down in the first place and they sent the team down to find out.
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** And yet there are no ripped shreds of skin on that kennel Alice saw torn open from inside.
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*** ThirdOptionAdaptation is in play here. The point of using Alice, and thus the looser interpretation, was to prevent people from feeling invalidated when they made a playthrough with only Jill or only Chris in the first game. Rather than retelling the story exactly with the characters and choosing one of the protagonists to be the 'true' protagonist, they went with the safer route and made an OC along with giving her MarySue traits in order to make her credible in the series.
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* What was the point of Alice? This is from a troper that likes the games and somewhat likes the movies. But it seems as if the only two reasons for her existence is to: 1. Distinct the movies from the games. 2. Make her basically a what if someone made a GameShark human.
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**** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaIhQFDdcJM Here's the scene itself]]. The plane is clearly low on gas, you can hear the engine sputtering and a flashing red light of doom which could only be the fuel light in context. Even if you assume that the drums are full of gasoline (Why would they be? And why would they be up there?), and assume it was of a type to run that engine (SureWhyNot), the landing should have wrecked the plane. She smashed through a concrete wall, the prop blades should have smashed themselves to bits.

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**** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaIhQFDdcJM Here's the scene itself]]. The plane is clearly low on gas, you can hear the engine sputtering and a flashing red light of doom which could only be the fuel light in context. Even if you assume that the drums are full of gasoline (Why would they be? And why would they be up there?), and assume it was of a type to run that engine (SureWhyNot), (AscendedFanon), the landing should have wrecked the plane. She smashed through a concrete wall, the prop blades should have smashed themselves to bits.

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** The effects of the T-virus has different effects on different organisms. When the dogs became zombies, they ripped off their skins when they escaped their kennels.

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** The effects of the T-virus has different effects on different organisms. When the dogs became zombies, they ripped off their skins when they escaped their kennels. kennels.
* That truck that collides with the car carrying Angela in ''Apocalypse''. Why did it just keep going like nothing happened? Was the driver intoxicated? If that were the case, wouldn't he have at least slowed down or swerved out of control after ramming into the car? Was he infected [[DeadFootLeadFoot or killed, and his foot was stuck on the gas pedal]]? The virus would have only just hit the city, so how could it have happened? Or was he just some random asshole who did it [[ForTheEvulz just for the hell of it]]?

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** Now if the zombies [[http://ocremix.org/files/images/games/ps1/1/resident-evil-2-ps1-cover-front-eu-47266.jpg all looked like this]], I'd be a little more terrified.

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** Now if Because the zombies [[http://ocremix.org/files/images/games/ps1/1/resident-evil-2-ps1-cover-front-eu-47266.jpg all looked creators have free reign to do as they please with their monsters. Kinda like this]], I'd be a little more terrified.vampires: they don't really exist, so you can create them to however you want them to look like.
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* Why on Earth did Umbrella reopen the Hive? When they knew full well it underwent lock-down to quarantine the spreading virus away from the rest of the world? [[TooDumbToLive Why would they deliberately circumvent their own fail-safe]]?
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* Why do the zombies now all have glowing-white eyes? I gather its artistic license, but why that odd choice? Who made that decision to tone down the scare-factor in a ''horror'' game?
** Now if the zombies [[http://ocremix.org/files/images/games/ps1/1/resident-evil-2-ps1-cover-front-eu-47266.jpg all looked like this]], I'd be a little more terrified.

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'''Note:''' [[http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/file/resident_evil_plot.txt Thomas Wilde's]] and [[http://db.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbcolor/file/resident_evil_gaiden_plot.txt Efrem Orizzonte's]] plot analyses are probably the most detailed and well-researched documents summarizing the Resident Evil series, answering frequently asked questions, and pointing out valuable information. [[http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/file/resident_evil_plot_a.txt Marleone's]] summary, while not as high quality, also contains transcripts for most of the files in the series. Please give them a look before asking a question.

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'''Note:''' ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil0'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil1'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil2'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvilGunSurvivor'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil4'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil5'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvilMercenaries3D'', and ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil6'' all have their own pages. Consider putting Headscratchers there first, if your question is only about something in one of those games before putting it here.

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[[http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/file/resident_evil_plot.txt Thomas Wilde's]] and [[http://db.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbcolor/file/resident_evil_gaiden_plot.txt Efrem Orizzonte's]] plot analyses are probably the most detailed and well-researched documents summarizing the Resident Evil series, answering frequently asked questions, and pointing out valuable information. [[http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/file/resident_evil_plot_a.txt Marleone's]] summary, while not as high quality, also contains transcripts for most of the files in the series. Please give them a look before asking a question.

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'''Note:''' ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil0'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil1'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil2'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvilGunSurvivor'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil4'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil5'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvilMercenaries3D'', and ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil6'' all have their own pages. Consider putting Headscratchers there first, if your question is only about something in one of those games before putting it here.

'''Note 2:''' [[http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/file/resident_evil_plot.txt Thomas Wilde's]] and [[http://db.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbcolor/file/resident_evil_gaiden_plot.txt Efrem Orizzonte's]] plot analyses are probably the most detailed and well-researched documents summarizing the Resident Evil series, answering frequently asked questions, and pointing out valuable information. [[http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/file/resident_evil_plot_a.txt Marleone's]] summary, while not as high quality, also contains transcripts for most of the files in the series. Please give them a look before asking a question.

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'''Note:''' ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil0'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil1'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil2'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvilGunSurvivor'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil4'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil5'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvilMercenaries3D'', and ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil6'' all have their own pages. Consider putting Headscratchers there first, if your question is only about something in one of those games before putting it here.

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[[http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/file/resident_evil_plot.txt Thomas Wilde's]] and [[http://db.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbcolor/file/resident_evil_gaiden_plot.txt Efrem Orizzonte's]] plot analyses are probably the most detailed and well-researched documents summarizing the Resident Evil series, answering frequently asked questions, and pointing out valuable information. [[http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/file/resident_evil_plot_a.txt Marleone's]] summary, while not as high quality, also contains transcripts for most of the files in the series. Please give them a look before asking a question.
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** The effects of the T-virus has different effects on different organisms. When the dogs became zombies, they ripped off their skins when they escaped their kennels.
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**** Original troper who started this conversation stream here, what I meant by "would 9/11 have happened" is not "would Bin Ladin have tred it in the face of {{=BOWs=}}" it's "would the US have implemented the same security measures they did in the real world after 9/11 back in 1998?" It's more of a what-if question which is never going to get touched by the series itself.

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**** Original troper who started this conversation stream here, what I meant by "would 9/11 have happened" is not "would Bin Ladin have tred tried it in the face of {{=BOWs=}}" it's "would the US have implemented the same security measures they did in the real world after 9/11 back in 1998?" It's more of a what-if question which is never going to get touched by the series itself.itself.
***** There doesn't appear to be a good answer to that. The only good security measure against the BOWs would be some kind of travel quarantine for a few days longer than whatever the average (or longest if you're smart) incubation period is for a BOWs development. Checking people for guns wouldn't help. They probably implemented entirely different protocols if at all and the games never touch on this largely because only RE6 at all touches on civilian life after the original games which all take place over a few weeks.
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Also, define an "unguarded and easily searchable location"? Are you, by chance, referring to the hidden underground laboratory that you needed to track down a bunch of SoupCans in order to get to, which has surveillance equipment? The only reason these things are "unguarded" is because the guards were ''eaten''.

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Also, define an "unguarded and easily searchable location"? Are you, by chance, referring to the hidden underground laboratory that you needed to track down a bunch of SoupCans [[SolveTheSoupCans Soup Cans]] in order to get to, which has surveillance equipment? The only reason these things are "unguarded" is because the guards were ''eaten''.
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**** Precisely, what if the "virus" streamlines energy to mass efficiency? according to the games it prevents decay while mutating the host, it converts human/animal/vegetable cells into new, mutated cells and the new organisms EAT right away but leave no discernible waste. Handwave it as in-universe, this is what the "virus" does and leave it at that.
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**** Original troper who started this conversation stream here, what I meant by "would 9/11 have happened" is not "would Bin Ladin have tred it in the face of {{=BOWs=}}" it's "would the US have implemented the same security measures they did in the real world after 9/11 back in 1998?" It's more of a what-if question which is never going to get touched by the series itself.
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**** We never see Alice or Claire eat in the plane, that doesn't mean that they didn't have any food (and considering the distance between Alaska and California there is no way they didn't have at least something to eat), so the same goes for spare fuel (which you would keep in the cockpit with you rather than outside where it could get knocked off. And the plane's engine was never damaged (as it was a half wall that came up to the survivors waist, which would have been just below where the blades would reach down to). If we're talking about how the blades should have been broken, technically they should have been broken when it started chopping up zombies but we have a whole trope about how that's an acceptable break from reality. It should also be pointed out that the distance by plane between the prison and Arcadia is only a few minutes and it still crashed, which is illustrating that all Alice pulled off was a quick fix that would have only suceeded in getting someone away from the prison and to the ship.
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*** Wesker was outmatched, but the virus still required 15 years of hibernation before perfect control was met, which meant that for all it's power, that kind of timeframe is too long to wait upon. Think of it like this: A company makes one exceptional product over 15 years, while other companies make many great products over the span of 15 years while learning and creating more stronger products during the frame. 15 years of work and research still brought down by gunfire is still a waste of time and research, as Wesker noted: "Alexia's research really amounted to nothing."
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*** Why the heck was anyone testifying before the Supreme Court at all? The Supreme Court doesn't (directly) decide issues of guilt. It handles matters like questions of how constitutional[[hottip:*:that means whether or not something is permitted or not by the U.S Constitution for non-U.S tropers]] something is or state disputes over land. If they had said that it was a Congressional inquiry, it would have made much more sense.

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*** Why the heck was anyone testifying before the Supreme Court at all? The Supreme Court doesn't (directly) decide issues of guilt. It handles matters like questions of how constitutional[[hottip:*:that constitutional[[note]]that means whether or not something is permitted or not by the U.S Constitution for non-U.S tropers]] tropers[[/note]] something is or state disputes over land. If they had said that it was a Congressional inquiry, it would have made much more sense.
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'''Note:''' ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil0'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil1'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil2'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil4'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil5'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvilMercenaries3D'', and ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil6'' all have their own pages. Consider putting Headscratchers there first, if your question is only about something in one of those games before putting it here.

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'''Note:''' ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil0'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil1'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil2'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvilGunSurvivor'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil4'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil5'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvilMercenaries3D'', and ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil6'' all have their own pages. Consider putting Headscratchers there first, if your question is only about something in one of those games before putting it here.
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'''Note:''' ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil0'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil1'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil2'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil4'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil5'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvilMercenaries3D'', and ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil6'' all have their own pages. Consider putting Headscratchers there first, if your question is only about something in one of those games before putting it here.

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'''Note:''' ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil0'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil1'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil2'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil4'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil5'', ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvilMercenaries3D'', and ''Headscratchers/ResidentEvil6'' all have their own pages. Consider putting Headscratchers there first, if your question is only about something in one of those games before putting it here.

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