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* If Church kept failing miserably to SetRightWhatOnceWasWrong, why didn't he learn from his mistakes and take precautions to avoid them? For instance:
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* If Church kept failing miserably to SetRightWhatOnceWasWrong, SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong, why didn't he learn from his mistakes and take precautions to avoid them? For instance:
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* So Wash's Freelancer special ability is apparently an EMP burst? How does that work, given that Freelancers were designed to be A.I. equipped soldiers, and EMP is specifically shown to fry A.I.s?
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* So So, Wash's Freelancer special ability is apparently an EMP burst? How does that work, given that Freelancers were designed to be A.I. equipped soldiers, and EMP is specifically shown to fry A.I.s?
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* Minor one, but how is summoning Maine "fighting fire with fire"? Because the Sleeveless Insurrectionist is strong and Maine is strong? Seems less fighting fire with fire and more... fighting.
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* Minor one, but how is summoning Maine "fighting fire with fire"? Because the Sleeveless Insurrectionist is strong strong, and Maine is strong? Seems less fighting fire with fire and more... fighting.
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** A very simple [[IncrediblyLamePun Meta]] reason- the inital episodes were made long before any long-reaching plot was made, and the one about Tex still being a Freelancer is one of them.
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** A very simple [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} Meta]] reason- the inital initial episodes were made long before any long-reaching plot was made, and the one about Tex still being a Freelancer is one of them.
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*** "[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim I used to be a Freelancer like you,]] [[MemeticMutation but then I took a]] [[AnAxeToGrind throwing axe]] [[MadeOfIron to the chest and dropped several dozen feet]]?" No one would have been surprised if he wasn't able to fight after that.
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*** "[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim I used to be a Freelancer like you,]] [[MemeticMutation but then I took a]] [[AnAxeToGrind throwing axe]] axe [[MadeOfIron to the chest and dropped several dozen feet]]?" No one would have been surprised if he wasn't able to fight after that.
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** The people who make Machinima/RedVsBlue, Rooster Teeth, have specifically said that she does this to Grif because she somehow found out about him punting Epsilon-Church in an earlier episode.
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** The people who make Machinima/RedVsBlue, WebAnimation/RedVsBlue, Rooster Teeth, have specifically said that she does this to Grif because she somehow found out about him punting Epsilon-Church in an earlier episode.
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** Just before that Santa said "You were broken by war. It was his goal to see you never healed." It wasn't that Felix was afraid of him. It was that Felix had been lying to him and manipulating him for years.
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** The point of Felix's monologue in the broader sense is that he's never really cared about anything. He's just a sociopath who believes that being able to do what he wants is all the justification he needs. Their sacrifices mean nothing to him, because the only "rule" Felix follows it that might makes right.
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Removing sinkholes.
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*** I just watched the series all the way through and this explanation feels more like WMG than an actual explanations. No explanation during the episode was given. In other words, like much of the rest of that season, the writers enforced RealityEnsues even when [[ArtisticLicensePhysics reality did not work that way]]. It was obviously written to be just PlayedForDrama considering the fact that Cronut survived a missile launcher and other injuries in the same episode, though off-screen.
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*** I just watched the series all the way through and this explanation feels more like WMG than an actual explanations. No explanation during the episode was given. In other words, like much of the rest of that season, the writers enforced RealityEnsues reality even when [[ArtisticLicensePhysics reality did not work that way]]. It was obviously written to be just PlayedForDrama considering the fact that Cronut survived a missile launcher and other injuries in the same episode, though off-screen.
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* On a similar note, I'm not sure I get Felix's "it all means nothing" monologue, despite having listened to it over and over. So [[BreakThemByTalking mocking Tucker]] by saying that they boosted the morale of the Chorus citizens so that they killed each other faster, not realizing that it only further Hargove and the Mercs' plan. Okay. But then he says "it (their sacrifices) all means nothing, because at the end of the day, if I'm stronger than you, and if I'm faster than you, then I can kill you." That seems like a non-sequiter, because it didn't matter who was stronger or faster; the Feds and News weren't fighting the right people. Is he saying morale is useless in an army? Because it definitely isn't, and for all his sociopathy, he should know that as a soldier.
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** HumansAreBastards. Especially [[BureaucratsAreEvil bureaucrats]].
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** HumansAreBastards. Especially [[BureaucratsAreEvil [[CorruptBereaucrat bureaucrats]].
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** Actually, Season 15 seems to be retconning the armor-lockup retcon with Mark Temple's backstory, where we saw how Biff died. Not to mention all the other sim troops Sarge killed in season 14. Granted those all were accidents, but they seem like easily replicable ones; if the armor can't save someone from a sharp stick accidently knocked at them, how it is supposed to save them from bullets, bombs, shrapnel, etc? Not to mention Carolina and Tex didn't seem all that surprised or remorseful.
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*** Which raises a warehouse full of FridgeLogic as to how none of the Sim Troopers were supposed to notice that they couldn't die, or how Freelancer got rid of the "bodies" and what they'd do with "dead" soldiers, and how your armor locking up is supposed to protect someone from being blown up with artillery, crushed by a tank, or even just stabbed in a vulnerable spot or having a mag emptied into you (which we clearly see in Halo and this show can kill even the best-equipped Spartans), but hey, if the entire Blood Gulch Chronicles were an [[AWizardDidIt elaborate simulation by project freelancer...]] It's also my headcannon that all Sim Troopers underwent some kind of brainwashing (that likely damaged many of their minds) to make them fit their assigned roles better and prevent them from questioning things.
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* Could someone please explain Locus's HeelFaceTurn to me? So the flashback to the Great War shows he does have a conscience, but he just buried it under the idea that soldiers [[JustFollowingOrders just follow orders, and therefore have no moral responsibility for themselves, even if they're committing genocide for a paycheck.]] Alright. But then how does learning that Felix is afraid of him make him [[HeelRealization admit/realize he's a monster?]] Felix is either afraid of him because [[TheSociopath Felix is a cowardly sociopath who's of course going to fear other people betraying him as quickly as he'd betray them,]] or simply because Locus is dangerous warrior who even genuine allies have reason to fear, but how does realizing either motivate Locus to change?
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** While the Red vs. Blue borrows extensively from the Halo universe for obvious reasons, they are not actually one and the same and instead of the Covenant, they only have the one species of alien that they're fighting.
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** No, really. When we're first introduced to him, the series plays him like a monster in a horror movie, killing innocent people just so he can harvest their AI and equipment to make himself more powerful. Later on, it's revealed that the Meta exists because Sigma took control of his host, and set out to collect as many AI as he could, with the diabolical goal of reaching "metastability"- the evolution from a fragment to a full personality. But wait- isn't he just repairing the damage done to the Alpha? Washington describes what the Alpha was put through as "reverse-engineering a multiple personality disorder," and every action undertook by Sigma indicates he only wanted to reverse that process, and re-unite the fragments with the Alpha. There's no indication that he forces the other fragments to work with him, and since the other fragments are said to be obsessed with the Alpha, it makes sense that they'd work with him to find it. He kills Freelancers to recover these AI, yes, but the fact that he left Caboose alive when recovering Delta indicates he doesn't kill his targets if he doesn't have to.
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** No, really. When we're first introduced to him, the series plays him like a monster in a horror movie, killing innocent people just so he can harvest their AI and equipment to make himself more powerful. Later on, it's revealed that the Meta exists because Sigma took control of his host, and set out to collect as many AI as he could, with the diabolical goal of reaching "metastability"- the evolution from a fragment to a full personality. But wait- isn't he just repairing the damage done to the Alpha? Washington describes what the Alpha was put through as "reverse-engineering a multiple personality disorder," and every action undertook by Sigma indicates he only wanted to reverse that process, and re-unite the fragments with the Alpha. There's no indication that he forces the other fragments to work with him, and since the other fragments are said to be obsessed with the Alpha, it makes sense that they'd work with him to find it. He kills Freelancers to recover these AI, yes, but the fact that he left both Washington and Caboose alive when recovering Delta after scavenging from their unconscious bodies indicates he doesn't kill his only kills targets if he doesn't have to. they fight to prevent him from achieving his goal. Which again, based on everything the show itself has told us, is repairing a broken mind.
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* Why is the Meta the bad guy?
**No, really. When we're first introduced to him, the series plays him like a monster in a horror movie, killing innocent people just so he can harvest their AI and equipment to make himself more powerful. Later on, it's revealed that the Meta exists because Sigma took control of his host, and set out to collect as many AI as he could, with the diabolical goal of reaching "metastability"- the evolution from a fragment to a full personality. But wait- isn't he just repairing the damage done to the Alpha? Washington describes what the Alpha was put through as "reverse-engineering a multiple personality disorder," and every action undertook by Sigma indicates he only wanted to reverse that process, and re-unite the fragments with the Alpha. There's no indication that he forces the other fragments to work with him, and since the other fragments are said to be obsessed with the Alpha, it makes sense that they'd work with him to find it. He kills Freelancers to recover these AI, yes, but the fact that he left Caboose alive when recovering Delta indicates he doesn't kill his targets if he doesn't have to.
**No, really. When we're first introduced to him, the series plays him like a monster in a horror movie, killing innocent people just so he can harvest their AI and equipment to make himself more powerful. Later on, it's revealed that the Meta exists because Sigma took control of his host, and set out to collect as many AI as he could, with the diabolical goal of reaching "metastability"- the evolution from a fragment to a full personality. But wait- isn't he just repairing the damage done to the Alpha? Washington describes what the Alpha was put through as "reverse-engineering a multiple personality disorder," and every action undertook by Sigma indicates he only wanted to reverse that process, and re-unite the fragments with the Alpha. There's no indication that he forces the other fragments to work with him, and since the other fragments are said to be obsessed with the Alpha, it makes sense that they'd work with him to find it. He kills Freelancers to recover these AI, yes, but the fact that he left Caboose alive when recovering Delta indicates he doesn't kill his targets if he doesn't have to.
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** Check out Season 17. Donut is arguably the main protagonist.
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** He's a bomb. A sapient weapon. His goal isn't ''just'' to explode. He's supposed to explode where he can hurt people and break stuff slash where his boss wants him to. In the middle of the enemy base? Peachy. In the middle of nowhere as a million dollar firework? Not peachy. Years of academy training wasted.
