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** Plus there are already plenty of powerful Ice-types, who already counter Dragons. Except most are considered competitively lousy for that purpose because most Dragons are so dang fast and strong that they can wreck them first with strong Fire/Fighting/Rock/Whatever moves. Assuming Fairy is indeed weak to Steel, 100-power Iron Tail is not exactly rare among Dragons.
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** Plus there are already plenty of powerful Ice-types, who already counter Dragons. Except most are considered competitively lousy for that purpose because most Dragons are so dang fast and strong that they can wreck them first with strong Fire/Fighting/Rock/Whatever moves. Assuming Fairy is indeed weak to Steel, 100-power Iron Tail is not exactly rare among Dragons.
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* So Jigglypuff is being retconned into a fairy type, I'm seeing a lot of people complaining or making fun of how Jigglypuff is a new dragon slayer. StatisticallySpeaking, Dragon is the strongest type in the games. Jigglypuff is a ComMon. Provided Jigglypuff manages to outspeed most dragon types, it has ''abysmal'' attack and defense stats. The only way a Jigglypuff can somehow beat most dragon types is if it does so by CherryTapping. Exactly ''what'' are these guys smoking?
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* So Jigglypuff is being retconned into a fairy type, I'm seeing a lot of people complaining or making fun of how Jigglypuff is a new dragon slayer. StatisticallySpeaking, Dragon is the strongest type in the games. Jigglypuff is a ComMon. Provided Jigglypuff manages to outspeed most dragon types, it has ''abysmal'' attack and defense stats. The only way a Jigglypuff can somehow beat most dragon types is if it does so by CherryTapping. Exactly ''what'' are these guys smoking?smoking?
** Plus there are already plenty of powerful Ice-types, who already counter Dragons. Except most are considered competitively lousy for that purpose because most Dragons are so dang fast and strong that they can wreck them first with strong Fire/Fighting/Rock/Whatever moves. Assuming Fairy is indeed weak to Steel, 100-power Iron Tail is not exactly rare among Dragons.
** Plus there are already plenty of powerful Ice-types, who already counter Dragons. Except most are considered competitively lousy for that purpose because most Dragons are so dang fast and strong that they can wreck them first with strong Fire/Fighting/Rock/Whatever moves. Assuming Fairy is indeed weak to Steel, 100-power Iron Tail is not exactly rare among Dragons.
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* So Jigglypuff is being retconned into a fairy type, I'm seeing a lot of people complaining or making fun of how Jigglypuff is a new dragon slayer. StatisticallySpeaking, Dragon is the strongest type in the games. Jigglypuff is a ComMon. Provided Jigglypuff manages to outspeed most dragon types, it has ''abysmal'' attack and defense stats. The only way a Jigglypuff can somehow beat most dragon types is if it does so by CherryTapping. Exactly ''what'' are these guys smoking?
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** A lot of Pokemon names have been clumsy at best since the fourth gen (how the heck are you supposed to pronounce "Reuniclus"? And what does "Druddigon" even mean?). I blame Gamefreak replacing their long-time English translator.
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** A lot of Pokemon names have been clumsy at best since the fourth gen (how the heck are you supposed to pronounce "Reuniclus"? And what does "Druddigon" even mean?). I blame Gamefreak replacing their long-time English translator.
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** RuleOfCool?
** RuleOfCool?
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**** And Sandshrew. It's a shrew that lives in the sand.
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** Because dragons (usually) lose in fairy tales! Similarly, Fairy's weakness to Steel is likely a reference to the weakness of Fair Folk to "cold iron" in many European stories.
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** Because dragons (usually) lose in fairy tales! Similarly, Fairy's weakness to Steel is likely a reference to the weakness of Fair Folk to "cold iron" in many European stories. stories.
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** Partially people being whiny and never wanting anything to change. And partially because they think fairy=cute and cute=harmless. Obviously they don't know anything about traditional fairies. And it also seems to derive some from a general desire to keep their dragons broken
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** Partially people being whiny and never wanting anything to change. And partially because they think fairy=cute and cute=harmless. Obviously they don't know anything about traditional fairies. And it also seems to derive some from a general desire to keep their dragons brokenbroken.
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**** 2nd poster again. Ditto. It's just a word. They didn't even try with that one. At least Seel got one letter changed, and Talonflame is a compound word.
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** Partially people being whiny and never wanting anything to change. And partially because they think fairy=cute and cute=harmless. Obviously they don't know anything about traditional fairies. And it also seems to derive some from a general desire to keep their dragons broken (Though as long as Azumarill gets a goo physical Fairy-type move, I will love it even more as an anti-dragon).
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** Partially people being whiny and never wanting anything to change. And partially because they think fairy=cute and cute=harmless. Obviously they don't know anything about traditional fairies. And it also seems to derive some from a general desire to keep their dragons broken (Though as long as Azumarill gets a goo physical Fairy-type move, I will love it even more as an anti-dragon).
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** "It sounds gay". I neither care nor agree, but I guess some people are really insecure when it comes to "girly" Pokemon, even though the games have had huggable pink blobs since Gen 1.
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** A lot of Pokemon names have been clumsy at best since the fourth gen (how the heck are you supposed to pronounce "Reuniclus"? And what does "Druddigon" even mean?). I blame Gamefreak replacing their long-time English translator.
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** Because dragons (usually) lose in fairy tales! Similarly, Fairy's weakness to Steel is likely a reference to the weakness of Fair Folk to "cold iron" in many European stories.
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* Alright, I'm seeing some [[FanDumb complaints]] about how Dragons should not have such glaring weaknesses. (Only Fairy actually has any ComMon Pokés in its rank) Exactly why are people getting bent out of shape... you're not ''supposed'' to just send out a mon who just tramples over everything with no fear of ever encountering a weakness. (That's what Gen I was for.) Explain to me how dragon types are "unusuable" because there are fairy types out there... by that logic nearly ''every'' Pokémon is useless. (I find it hard to feel sympathy for these types given that most of my favourites are grass types... and I dare you to try using grass types. Five weaknesses, as opposed to three, with ''four'' being incredibly common, especially online where I ''NEVER'' see a grass type being used. That and most Fire, Flying, Ice, and Bug types are virtually extinct from multiplayer because of Stealth Rock.)
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* Alright, I'm seeing some [[FanDumb complaints]] about how Dragons should not have such glaring weaknesses. (Only Fairy actually has any ComMon Pokés in its rank) Exactly why are people getting bent out of shape... you're not ''supposed'' to just send out a mon who just tramples over everything with no fear of ever encountering a weakness. (That's what Gen I was for.) Explain to me how dragon types are "unusuable" because there are fairy types out there... by that logic nearly ''every'' Pokémon is useless. (I find it hard to feel sympathy for these types given that most of my favourites are grass types... and I dare you to try using grass types. Five weaknesses, as opposed to three, with ''four'' being incredibly common, especially online where I ''NEVER'' see a grass type being used. That and most Fire, Flying, Ice, and Bug types are virtually extinct from multiplayer because of Stealth Rock.))
** Partially people being whiny and never wanting anything to change. And partially because they think fairy=cute and cute=harmless. Obviously they don't know anything about traditional fairies. And it also seems to derive some from a general desire to keep their dragons broken (Though as long as Azumarill gets a goo physical Fairy-type move, I will love it even more as an anti-dragon).
** Partially people being whiny and never wanting anything to change. And partially because they think fairy=cute and cute=harmless. Obviously they don't know anything about traditional fairies. And it also seems to derive some from a general desire to keep their dragons broken (Though as long as Azumarill gets a goo physical Fairy-type move, I will love it even more as an anti-dragon).
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*** Original poster here to say that this is my actual complaint. After the bluntness that was gen 1, we had so much word play. Sure we had some bad ones, like Throh, but it was rarely as straight-forward as 1st gen names. And it really doesn't flow well.
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** After four Generations of wordplay, it jarring to see such an unelegant name show up. Not only does is lack any blending of words, it has two consonants in the middle that don't flow into each other.
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** After four Generations of wordplay, it it's jarring to see such an unelegant name show up. Not only does is lack any blending of words, words; it has two consonants in the middle that don't flow into each other.
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** After four Generations of wordplay, it jarring to see such an unelegant name show up. Not only does is lack any blending of words, it has two consonants in the middle that don't flow into each other.
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** On the other hand, enchanted weaponry is often the key to defeating dragons in various myths/games/stories/etc.
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** On the other hand, enchanted weaponry is often the key to defeating dragons in various myths/games/stories/etc.myths/games/stories/etc.
* Alright, I'm seeing some [[FanDumb complaints]] about how Dragons should not have such glaring weaknesses. (Only Fairy actually has any ComMon Pokés in its rank) Exactly why are people getting bent out of shape... you're not ''supposed'' to just send out a mon who just tramples over everything with no fear of ever encountering a weakness. (That's what Gen I was for.) Explain to me how dragon types are "unusuable" because there are fairy types out there... by that logic nearly ''every'' Pokémon is useless. (I find it hard to feel sympathy for these types given that most of my favourites are grass types... and I dare you to try using grass types. Five weaknesses, as opposed to three, with ''four'' being incredibly common, especially online where I ''NEVER'' see a grass type being used. That and most Fire, Flying, Ice, and Bug types are virtually extinct from multiplayer because of Stealth Rock.)
* Alright, I'm seeing some [[FanDumb complaints]] about how Dragons should not have such glaring weaknesses. (Only Fairy actually has any ComMon Pokés in its rank) Exactly why are people getting bent out of shape... you're not ''supposed'' to just send out a mon who just tramples over everything with no fear of ever encountering a weakness. (That's what Gen I was for.) Explain to me how dragon types are "unusuable" because there are fairy types out there... by that logic nearly ''every'' Pokémon is useless. (I find it hard to feel sympathy for these types given that most of my favourites are grass types... and I dare you to try using grass types. Five weaknesses, as opposed to three, with ''four'' being incredibly common, especially online where I ''NEVER'' see a grass type being used. That and most Fire, Flying, Ice, and Bug types are virtually extinct from multiplayer because of Stealth Rock.)
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* I'm actually interested in seeing how the new fairy type turns out and there's a question I was hoping I could get an answer to.. With every type resistance and advantage I like to come up with a reason for the advantage/resistance. For example water beats fire because water douses fire, steel is resistant against dragon because steel armor and shields protect knights from dragons, and etc. It has been announced that fairy is strong against dragon. My question is why is fairy strong against dragon? I really couldn't think of a reason. My first thought was magic except that doesn't really make much sense since dragons in most lore are resistant to and could even wield magic.
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* I'm actually interested in seeing how the new fairy type turns out and there's a question I was hoping I could get an answer to.. With every type resistance and advantage I like to come up with a reason for the advantage/resistance. For example water beats fire because water douses fire, steel is resistant against dragon because steel armor and shields protect knights from dragons, and etc. It has been announced that fairy is strong against dragon. My question is why is fairy strong against dragon? I really couldn't think of a reason. My first thought was magic except that doesn't really make much sense since dragons in most lore are resistant to and could even wield magic.magic.
** On the other hand, enchanted weaponry is often the key to defeating dragons in various myths/games/stories/etc.
** On the other hand, enchanted weaponry is often the key to defeating dragons in various myths/games/stories/etc.
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** Electrode is actually a real word as well as a Pokémon name. And a crap-ton of Pokémon just get their Japanese names Anglicized for their English names rather than getting names that would be meaningful to English speakers.
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** Electrode is actually a real word as well as a Pokémon name. And a crap-ton of Pokémon just get their Japanese names Anglicized for their English names rather than getting names that would be meaningful to English speakers.speakers.
* I'm actually interested in seeing how the new fairy type turns out and there's a question I was hoping I could get an answer to.. With every type resistance and advantage I like to come up with a reason for the advantage/resistance. For example water beats fire because water douses fire, steel is resistant against dragon because steel armor and shields protect knights from dragons, and etc. It has been announced that fairy is strong against dragon. My question is why is fairy strong against dragon? I really couldn't think of a reason. My first thought was magic except that doesn't really make much sense since dragons in most lore are resistant to and could even wield magic.
* I'm actually interested in seeing how the new fairy type turns out and there's a question I was hoping I could get an answer to.. With every type resistance and advantage I like to come up with a reason for the advantage/resistance. For example water beats fire because water douses fire, steel is resistant against dragon because steel armor and shields protect knights from dragons, and etc. It has been announced that fairy is strong against dragon. My question is why is fairy strong against dragon? I really couldn't think of a reason. My first thought was magic except that doesn't really make much sense since dragons in most lore are resistant to and could even wield magic.
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** It has talons. It has flames. Voltorb, anyone? I'm sure there are more out there.
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** It has talons. It has flames. Voltorb, anyone? I'm sure there are more out there.there.
** Electrode is actually a real word as well as a Pokémon name. And a crap-ton of Pokémon just get their Japanese names Anglicized for their English names rather than getting names that would be meaningful to English speakers.
** Electrode is actually a real word as well as a Pokémon name. And a crap-ton of Pokémon just get their Japanese names Anglicized for their English names rather than getting names that would be meaningful to English speakers.
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* While I'm not complaining, why does Talonflame have such a blunt name without any sort of wordplay?
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* While I'm not complaining, why does Talonflame have such a blunt name without any sort of wordplay?wordplay?
** It has talons. It has flames. Voltorb, anyone? I'm sure there are more out there.
** It has talons. It has flames. Voltorb, anyone? I'm sure there are more out there.
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** It's the internet. [[FanDumb People will complain about anything and everything, especially new games and game features.]] This is ''definitely'' nothing new when it comes to Pokemon, especially in regards to adding more game mechanics.
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** It's the internet. [[FanDumb People will complain about anything and everything, especially new games and game features.]] This is ''definitely'' nothing new when it comes to Pokemon, especially in regards to adding more game mechanics.mechanics.
* While I'm not complaining, why does Talonflame have such a blunt name without any sort of wordplay?
* While I'm not complaining, why does Talonflame have such a blunt name without any sort of wordplay?
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** It's the internet. [[FanDumb People will complain about anything and everything, especially new games and game features.]] This is ''definitely'' nothing new when it comes to Pokemon.
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** It's the internet. [[FanDumb People will complain about anything and everything, especially new games and game features.]] This is ''definitely'' nothing new when it comes to Pokemon.Pokemon, especially in regards to adding more game mechanics.
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** It's the internet. [[FanDumb People will complain about anything and everything, especially new games and game features.]]
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** It's the internet. [[FanDumb People will complain about anything and everything, especially new games and game features.]]]] This is ''definitely'' nothing new when it comes to Pokemon.
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** It's the internet. [[FanDumb People will complain about anything and everything, ''especially'' new games and game features.]]
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** It's the internet. [[FanDumb People will complain about anything and everything, ''especially'' especially new games and game features.]]
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* Just WHAT exactly is with all the people complaining about Fairy-types? It seems to me that they're just behaving like a load of stupid Gen 1 Transformers fans.
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* Just WHAT exactly is with all the people complaining about Fairy-types? It seems to me that they're just behaving like a load of stupid Gen 1 Transformers fans.fans.
** It's the internet. [[FanDumb People will complain about anything and everything, ''especially'' new games and game features.]]
** It's the internet. [[FanDumb People will complain about anything and everything, ''especially'' new games and game features.]]
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** Given that Mewtwo was genetically created Pokemon, it would be more surprising if he wasn't involved somehow.
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** Given that Mewtwo was genetically created Pokemon, it would be more surprising if he wasn't involved somehow.somehow.
* Just WHAT exactly is with all the people complaining about Fairy-types? It seems to me that they're just behaving like a load of stupid Gen 1 Transformers fans.
* Just WHAT exactly is with all the people complaining about Fairy-types? It seems to me that they're just behaving like a load of stupid Gen 1 Transformers fans.
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** The reason for the new forme will certainly be revealed in time.
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** The reason for the new forme will certainly be revealed in time.time.
** Given that Mewtwo was genetically created Pokemon, it would be more surprising if he wasn't involved somehow.
** Given that Mewtwo was genetically created Pokemon, it would be more surprising if he wasn't involved somehow.
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* Not that I'm against it, but WHY does Mewtwo have a new form anyway? Does it have something to do with the DNA connection in these games?
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* Not that I'm against it, but WHY does Mewtwo have a new form anyway? Does it have something to do with the DNA connection in these games?games?
** The reason for the new forme will certainly be revealed in time.
** The reason for the new forme will certainly be revealed in time.
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