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*** [[https://i.gyazo.com/1f8f2582004194ccce2c6292c052ea80.png Ahem.]]
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*** This is a little bit of WMG, but when Dusknoir captures you at Rainbow Stoneship, doesn't he say they have been waiting a few days for you to show up? And they already have portal to the future waiting for you. Now if TimeyWimeyBall mentioned up above is in effect, what if the portal that Grovyle pushed them into took them back to the moment in the future from when Dusknoir originally left it. AKA a few days before the party arrived at Hidden Land in the present and before the DelayedRippleEffect kicked in. If that is the case, that would give them plenty of time during Episode 5. Grovyle, Celebi and Dusknoir where probably climbing Vast Ice Mountain at the same time the Player Character and your Partner where climbing Temporal Tower.
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*** This is a little bit of WMG, but when Dusknoir captures you at Rainbow Stoneship, doesn't he say they have been waiting a few days for you to show up? And they already have portal to the future waiting for you. Now if TimeyWimeyBall mentioned up above is in effect, what if the portal that Grovyle pushed them into took them back to the moment in the future from when Dusknoir originally left it. AKA a few days before the party arrived at Hidden Land in the present and before the DelayedRippleEffect kicked in. If that is the case, that would give them plenty of time during Episode 5. Grovyle, Celebi and Dusknoir where probably climbing Vast Ice Mountain at the same time the Player Character and your Partner where climbing Temporal Tower.zub
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The partner actually lives in one of the friend areas, it can be seen heading in the direction of the friend areas after one mission near the Great Canyon scene, further evidence includes how one of the first friend areas you get - for free - is the one in which your partner's species, and yours as well, will live
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** The partner actually lives in one of the friend areas, it can be seen heading in the direction of the friend areas after one mission near the Great Canyon scene, further evidence includes how one of the first friend areas you get - for free - is the one in which your partner's species, and yours as well, will live
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** Well, at least in ''Rescue Team'' and ''Explorers'', it's explained that the nature/time distortions cause not only mystery dungeons to exist, but can also cause Pokémon to get more aggressive. Combine that with the fact that outlaws and thieves even exist in the first place in these verses, and it's clear that not ''all'' Pokémon are as nice as the ones in towns.
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*** The player is told by Palkia that Darkrai has amnesia, so when they find Darkrai roaming in some random dungeon and Darkrai asks if they can join the player's team, the player probably takes a page out of Dusknoir's book and get a powerful and otherwise dangerous foe on their side.
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** I kinda thought it might be just in case [[HeKnowsTooMuch the player had remembered enough for the partner to piece the rest together.]] Of course, they didn't, but Dusknoir couldn't be sure, and he doesn't seem the kind of guy to take risks when he can just kill them both and be done with it.
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**** This is supported by their appearance in Super Mystery Dungeon
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* In Explorers, when Dusknoir takes Grovyle to the future, he also takes you and your partner, which brings me to my question. Why does he take the partner who had nothing to do with the bad future?
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* Why did Chadot ban the player Pokemon and partner from dinner when you failed to get some perfect apples in the explorers of time generation? There was no way tat they could ave known the tree would be bare, so he had no reason, plus, do you think Wigglytuff (the guildmaster) wold be okay with that?
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*** Alternatively, [[WebVideo/DragonBallAbridged Muffin Button]]
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*** In which case, why is HM Fly required to access Sky Tower again? (Although if you have access to Stratos Lookout you recruited Rayquaza for which you needed to access Sky Tower, so you could just be using HM Fly.)
** Alternatively, [[WebVideo/DragonBallAbridged Muffin Button]]
** Alternatively, [[WebVideo/DragonBallAbridged Muffin Button]]
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* Delivery quests. So a pokémon's gone to the post office to post a request, then to some insane floor in a dungeon (e.g., I'm on level 25 of Magma Cavern which several rescue teams couldn't get close to) and wait for you at which point they ''return to the freaking post office''. Why not just meet them there?!
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* Delivery quests. So a pokémon's gone to the post office to post a request, then to some insane floor in a dungeon (e.g., I'm on level 25 23 of Magma Cavern which several rescue teams couldn't get close to) and wait for you at which point they ''return to the freaking post office''. Why not just meet them there?!
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*** Temporal Tower is actually shorter in the Special Episode, but not by much. It has 21 floors (including Temporal Pinnacle) instead of 24.
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*** Ghosts can go through walls, but they cannot simply rise up through floors. Of course, passing through walls makes them hungry much quicker than normal so this could be why.
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** Darkrai has lost all memory of their past actions, but that doesn't explain how easily the player character simply recruits them after all that they have done.
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Answering my very question: They would have noticed Nuzleaf's petrified body was not there. Kinda obvious from the start.
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* The events at Revelation Mountain in ''Super Mystery Dungeon''. When Krookodile accuses Nuzleaf of not giving him the money he promised for distributing the threats... why did he admit it? Until this point, every good character thought Krookodile was behind everything, so they'd have enough reasons to think he lies. He could have pretended to know nothing of the whole situation, then Yveltal could arrive and kill everyone else anyways. Fine, they would have returned anyways, but with Nuzleaf being seen as a good guy... they would have had no leads at all. While the Beheeyem that eventually escapes could have told the player and the partner the same thing, it's not like he could expect that, right? For how Nuzleaf [[TheChessmaster acts]] throughout the main story, it came off as odd to me.
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* The events at Revelation Mountain in ''Super Mystery Dungeon''. When Krookodile accuses Nuzleaf of not giving him the money he promised for distributing the threats... why did he admit it? Until this point, every good character thought Krookodile was behind everything, so they'd have enough reasons to think he lies. He could have pretended to know nothing of the whole situation, then Yveltal could arrive and kill everyone else anyways. Fine, they would have returned anyways, but with Nuzleaf being seen as a good guy... they would have had no leads at all. While the Beheeyem that eventually escapes could have told the player and the partner the same thing, it's not like he could expect that, right? For how Nuzleaf [[TheChessmaster acts]] throughout the main story, it came off as odd to me.
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* Reason why Rescue Team has Porygon as exclusive mon while Blue has Porygon2? That makes it worse, since you can get the "exclusive" in Red via evolving Porygon (though you can recruit evo in wild should you use WM, it's one of the few exceptions to "cannot recruit fully evolved mons" rule). You can't do that reverse way.
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* Reason why Rescue Team has Porygon as exclusive mon while Blue has Porygon2? [=Porygon2=]? That makes it worse, since you can get the "exclusive" in Red via evolving Porygon (though you can recruit evo in wild should you use WM, it's one of the few exceptions to "cannot recruit fully evolved mons" rule). You can't do that reverse way.
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* Lets go back to basics. If almost everyone is happy and friendly in the Pokémon towns, why are they so eager to beat each other up in the Mystery Dungeons? You are often helping other pokémon, catching outlaws or even SavingTheWorld. Why does everyone stand in the way? There isn't even a Pokémon League in this world.
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*** Well... [[VideoGame/PokémonBlackAndWhite N]] could understand Pokémon, right? So the human had N-like powers... [[WildMassGuessing or maybe was N...]]
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*** Well... [[VideoGame/PokémonBlackAndWhite [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite N]] could understand Pokémon, right? So the human had N-like powers... [[WildMassGuessing or maybe was N...]]
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*** I like to think of it as the Dad being all three of the male leads for FullHouse. Diglett is now both a girl and voiced by Ashley Olsen. Fill in the rest of the guild as the cast as you please.
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*** I like to think of it as the Dad being all three of the male leads for FullHouse.''Series/FullHouse''. Diglett is now both a girl and voiced by Ashley Olsen. Fill in the rest of the guild as the cast as you please.
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--->"Oh, [[ViewersAreMorons the kid'll never catch on]]. I know! They'll want world domination! Every villain wants to take over the world!"
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** It's... difficult to explain. The BadFuture has a few traits of [[AlternateTimeline a forked timeline]], as seen in the final special episode (Because it can be kept, and because it's not immediately modified), but then, restoring Dialga's sanity in the present affects it.
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* Ok, so Grovyle went back to the past to make things right and, in a way, succeeds. So if the future is fixed, then Grovyle never had a reason to go back to the past to fix everything, so there would be no Grovyle in the past to begin with, thus creating a paradox. Am I missing something or am I the only one who notices this?
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** As far as I know, Charmander is the only fire whose flame is supposedly connected to their life force(the only other one I can recall that has a constant flame is Chimchar, and it's not stated to have that connection), and the death=no tail flame theory, rather than vice versa, is likely accurate. As for attacks; even if the flame is snuffed out underwater, the attempt would still heat up the water a lot. That could be what hurts the opponent(think Scald).
*** Except, shortly after Amp Plains, the fact that you remember your real name becomes a minor plot point.
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**** You do get points for Drowzee, actually (or maybe just the reward money, I'm not going back to check). Magnezone states that he will alert the guild of your capture of Drowzee.
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** It could be that, due to your amnesia you don't remember what your real name is, so the default is that you tell your partner something that they would believe (what species you are)
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** Dusknoir may have thought that he could still manipulate you into helping him, or that this was his best opportunity to capture Grovyle. Grovyle may have not been trying to kill you either, only knock you unconscious.
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** Darkrai also stated that he has no idea when or where the portal will lead him, only that he can escape through it.
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**Darkrai also stated that he has no idea when or where the portal will lead him, only that he can escape through it.
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** That sort of happens again with the Perfect Apples incident. Despite Chatot pretty much stating that Perfect Apples must be brought ASAP to the HQ before Wigglytuff starts crying that he cannot eat one, you can spend as much time as you want farming with other missions (Hence, several days) before going to the Apple Forest. And all you get is Chatot [[WhatTheHellHero calling you out of not going there]]. But what about Wigglytuff - did he eat anything in the meanwhile? Was he starving? One would think that he could have noticed - even if Chatot and co. tried to hide the fact there were no Perfect Apples, Wigglytuff loves to think outside of the box...
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*** See the guess below, why would the time gears weren't in the Temporal Tower in the first place? In that case, it is possible there is more than five gears.
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*** See the guess below, why would the time gears weren't in the Temporal Tower in the first place? In that case, it is possible there is are more than five gears. If the time gears controlled the flow of time, it is actually weirder that there are only five places that have time gears within close distance (within one island). What about the rest of the world?
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*** See the guess below, why would the time gears weren't in the Temporal Tower in the first place? In that case, it is possible there is more than five gears.
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** Since Mewtwo and Porygon were created by humans, how can they possibly exist in the worlds of the ''Mystery Dungeon'' series if humanity never existed in the first place?
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** Since Mewtwo and Porygon were created by humans, how can they possibly exist in the worlds of the ''Mystery Dungeon'' series if humanity never existed on those worlds in the first place?
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* The [[http://www.spriters-resource.com/game_boy_advance/pmd/sheet/5355/ Decrepit Lab]] is solid evidence that there used to be humans in the world where ''Red/Blue Rescue Team'' takes place. The unanswered question is... what happened to them?
** Since Mewtwo and Porygon were created by humans, how can they possibly exist in the worlds of the ''Mystery Dungeon'' series if humanity never existed in the first place?
** Since Mewtwo and Porygon were created by humans, how can they possibly exist in the worlds of the ''Mystery Dungeon'' series if humanity never existed in the first place?
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** I'm guessing they lost interest in the whole "taking over the world" plot. After all, Medicham and Ekans didn't discuss wishing for world domination before going into Wish Cave.
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