History Headscratchers / Planet51

19th Jun '14 11:33:07 AM Viira
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** I thought mathematics was supposed to be one of those universal constants that all intelligent life in the universe, no matter who, what or where they are, were capable of understanding and translating(and was included as such on certain "contact" missions that we've sent "out there")...so it shouldn't matter what type of designation they're using for the numbers if we both understand each other. Why not get upset over the fact that [[WallBanger they know how to speak modern English]] instead?

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** I thought mathematics was supposed to be one of those universal constants that all intelligent life in the universe, no matter who, what or where they are, were capable of understanding and translating(and translating (and was included as such on certain "contact" missions that we've sent "out there")...so it shouldn't matter what type of designation they're using for the numbers if we both understand each other. Why not get upset over the fact that [[WallBanger they know how to speak modern English]] English instead?



*** Besides, both earthlings Bugs and Mickey(among many others) both have only eight fingers and nobody has ever asked why *they* don't use a different numbering system.

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*** Besides, both earthlings Bugs and Mickey(among Mickey (among many others) both have only eight fingers and nobody has ever asked why *they* don't use a different numbering system.
9th May '13 5:36:05 PM Malestrom
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** Or its base ten, eight fingers and two antenna.

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** Or its base ten, eight fingers and two antenna.antenna.
** I thought mathematics was supposed to be one of those universal constants that all intelligent life in the universe, no matter who, what or where they are, were capable of understanding and translating(and was included as such on certain "contact" missions that we've sent "out there")...so it shouldn't matter what type of designation they're using for the numbers if we both understand each other. Why not get upset over the fact that [[WallBanger they know how to speak modern English]] instead?
*** Or that they've apparently bred a domesticated, tame Ridley Scott's Alien *puppy*?!!?!?
*** Besides, both earthlings Bugs and Mickey(among many others) both have only eight fingers and nobody has ever asked why *they* don't use a different numbering system.
***I think, too, that the assumption that numbers are connected to evolution is flawed. They're more properly an intellectual development and subject to wide change and variation...*especially* when it comes to the terms we use to describe the actual concrete ideas; case in point, both Eleven and Twelve are basically functionally included as part of the original set(even though their etymology suggests that they were connected with post-Ten sets), with our clocks, months, dozens, grosses, Imperial Feet, etc. all using a base of 12. Also, Imperial Pounds uses a base of 16 oz. and I know that the indigenous language of the people I'm descended from traditionally used a grouping system of 20 instead of ten, so numbers can actually be quite fluid for how universal they are.
** Besides, are you suggesting that we have a Base 10 numbering system based on us having ten fingers, or a Base 9 numbering system based on 10 having two digits? Because "Ten" itself *IS* a "special word or symbol" designating itself and itself alone, and not denoting "Nine plus One" or anything else in the manner that "Eleven" denotes "One Remaining(After Ten)" etc...so the hexadeicmal argument for "no numbers past 7(or 9)" is sort of wrong, imo(or at the very least, confusing).
*** Also, the concept and usage of Zero(as in the example of digits 0-7 for a Base 8 numbering system) here on planet Earth came way later than you'd have expected it to(again, with the native language referenced above only designating a term for "Zero" meaning "nothing" sometime in this millenium) and almost shouldn't be considered part of the basic numbering system...it's more of a higher mathematical calculation concept than anything, along with negative numbers, multiplication, division, etc.
17th Nov '12 1:28:51 PM Vukodlak
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** Or they could have 11 if you count each part of the four fingers (3 sections to 3 fingers and 2 on the thumb). There was an ancient Arab tribe which used a similar counting system to get base 12.

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** Or they could have 11 if you count each part of the four fingers (3 sections to 3 fingers and 2 on the thumb). There was an ancient Arab tribe which used a similar counting system to get base 12.12.
** Or its base ten, eight fingers and two antenna.
1st Sep '12 2:36:06 PM BlackbirdMizu
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** Maybe they don't have a taboo against wearing pants.
17th Aug '12 7:55:32 PM isoycrazy
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** Maybe they use hand AND feet for counting, and have a base 16 system.

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** Maybe they use hand AND feet for counting, and have a base 16 system.system.
** Or they could have 11 if you count each part of the four fingers (3 sections to 3 fingers and 2 on the thumb). There was an ancient Arab tribe which used a similar counting system to get base 12.
5th Aug '12 2:43:57 PM Joesolo
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* So, if the aliens have 8 fingers on both hands, they would probably evolve to use base 8 (so digits are 0..7); there would be no "Base 9", nor would they have a word or symbol for any single digit past 7, anymore than we have special words or symbols for hex digits beyond 9. (9 in their system would be 11.)

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* So, if the aliens have 8 fingers on both hands, they would probably evolve to use base 8 (so digits are 0..7); there would be no "Base 9", nor would they have a word or symbol for any single digit past 7, anymore than we have special words or symbols for hex digits beyond 9. (9 in their system would be 11.))
** Maybe they use hand AND feet for counting, and have a base 16 system.
28th Mar '12 1:21:45 PM nombretomado
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** [[AClockworkOrange I had nightmares due to that shout out.]]

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** [[AClockworkOrange [[Film/AClockworkOrange I had nightmares due to that shout out.]]
22nd Mar '12 7:28:51 PM Xerxes
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* The lack of pants thing for the male aliens just raised a whole lotta awkward questions about their biology. Made even more awkward by the cork joke, during which Skiff gestured towards where his ass would be... if he were HUMAN, that is. If the location is the same, why the hell aren't they wearing pants?

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* The lack of pants thing for the male aliens just raised a whole lotta awkward questions about their biology. Made even more awkward by the cork joke, during which Skiff gestured towards where his ass would be... if he were HUMAN, that is. If the location is the same, why the hell aren't they wearing pants?pants?
* So, if the aliens have 8 fingers on both hands, they would probably evolve to use base 8 (so digits are 0..7); there would be no "Base 9", nor would they have a word or symbol for any single digit past 7, anymore than we have special words or symbols for hex digits beyond 9. (9 in their system would be 11.)
30th Nov '11 10:45:21 AM RaspberrySorbet
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* The lack of pants thing for the male aliens just raised a whole lotta awkward questions about their biology. Made even more awkward by the cork joke, during which Skiff gestured towards where his ass would be... if he were HUMAN, that is. If the location is the same, why the hell aren't they wearing pants?
** Lazy writers who REALLY wanted to make a joke about [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean probing?]]

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* The lack of pants thing for the male aliens just raised a whole lotta awkward questions about their biology. Made even more awkward by the cork joke, during which Skiff gestured towards where his ass would be... if he were HUMAN, that is. If the location is the same, why the hell aren't they wearing pants?
** Lazy writers who REALLY wanted to make a joke about [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean probing?]]
pants?
30th Nov '11 10:43:35 AM RaspberrySorbet
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** Lazy writers who REALLY wanted to make an anal probing joke?

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** Lazy writers who REALLY wanted to make an anal probing joke?a joke about [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean probing?]]
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