History Headscratchers / Persona4

** The same way everyone else survives the TV World before being rescued: the Shadows can't find them. Teddie outright says that the fog is so dense that the Shadows usually can't track anyone until the days it clears out and goes to the real world. The only exception to this are Persona users who stand out like a beacon to them. Shadow-Selves can find their owners just fine, but they don't want to harm them because their death would kill the Shadow, too. They just want to be accepted by their human selves. It's only after being denied enough that the Shadow-Self is enraged enough to kill their counterpart. Presumably, they only reach that point if the human ramps up the denial in response to having an audience see their deepest secrets like the Investigation Team. Otherwise, if they aren't found soon enough, likely the fog rolls out and normal Shadows swarm and devour whoever is left inside. Presumably that is also why you don't risk entering the TV during those days: the now alert Shadows would be too active for a Persona user to avoid.

** You can stop complaining now. Some of Teddie's alternate costumes in [[UpdatedRelease Persona 4 Golden]] allow him to fight in his human form Including his [[HilarityEnsues crossdressing]] [[StupidSexyFlanders costume]].

*** Actually Persona 3 mentions the Persona-Users from the last games.The Kirijo-Group has been split from the [[Persona Nanjo-group]] and I guess someone from the old Cast had ideas for a certain [[VideoGame/Persona2 MMORPG]]. Besides, didnt [[ShoutOut Trish have a own TV-Show?]]

*** You want to know why some people keep "projecting" even after the reveal? It's because Naoto is introduced as what seems to be FTM transgender, which is exciting because mainstream media isn't exactly choked with trans characters (especially not FTM), but then we get the rug pulled out from under us when it turns out that, no, she's just another {{Sweet Polly Oliver}}. And that doesn't make sense. It's not as if her gender is actually ''stopping'' her from pursuing her career, so why else would a girl dress, act, and speak like a boy? The apparently obvious answer is that she's trans. But then the truth turns out to be that she just has terrible self-esteem and weird delusions. And that's just a giant "WTF Seriously?" moment. One, because logic seemed to be dictating the former, only for it to end up all pear-shaped, and two, name me a FTM character from anything mainstream. It's having a carrot dangled ''really'' close to your face, only for it to be yanked away, and it is not fun (especially since this seems to happen a lot with LGBT characters). I don't understand how there's any confusion as to why people would be in denial about this. And the fact that some people seem to be in a huff over the fact that others still want to see her as trans is just I don't even.

** I realise this issue is probably dropped by now, but this troper feels the need to add that one's reception and interpretation of Naoto obviously varies wildly according to the value system he has been instilled with (everyone has one): I personally believed Naoto was indeed a boy initially (it's not exactly a common female name) and after realising she was not I took for granted the explanation given, that she was concealing her identity out of a mistaken belief that being a female as well as too oung was an insurmountable obstruction to her chosen career. Through the course of the game and advancing her Social Link she comes to see that she was mistaken in trying to conceal her identity and that the "right" path, so to speak, would be to actually demonstrate she IS strong enough to be both a woman and a detective, as well as relearn "how to be a woman", so to speak again. Hence her initial discomfort at dressing and speaking femininely (since she's obviously been using the male disguise for a long time) and initially allowing herself to appear feminine only in front of the protagonist (having no experience in womanly behavior, she is rightly afraid of mockery or social faux passes unforgivable to a female which would be allowable for a male - especially egregious given that this is Japan). That was how I read the character, at least.Out of curiosity, how did you interpret other [[Sweet Polly Oliver]] characters, such as Charle from Infinite Stratos?

* How come the fact that people are watching the midnight channel other then the persona users not making a bigger spotlight in the plot? I mean come on, it would definantly explain some of the more questionable moments of weirdness censor like the weapons and armor. But the only hints we get is cut scene crowd noise and the occasional npc gossip, you'd think they'd all be approached by reporters from the local town or whatever about the mysterious new t.v. series they supposedly star in but it never happens.

[[folder: So why does Yosuke wears his headphones in battle anyway?]]

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* They most certainly do: if you talk to a bunch of NPCs in the school, several of the girls talk about how they initially found Teddie interesting but were then disappointed in him the moment he opened his mouth, much like with Yosuke, so everyone most certainly knows about him. As for how he got into the school in the first place, Yosuke probably had to pull some strings to ensure he could get in there.

*** I honestly can't believe this is even a thing. You would rather side with a murderer who doesn't even cares about his victims at all than someone you ambiguously think is "toxic" for seemingly throwing a passive agressive line? The Investigation team isn't perfect, they are humans. Reality check: not everyone is perfect, and not everyone means harm in the way they say things. Even though Yukiko's line MIGHT seem to be as harmful as OP said it was, I doubt it was the writer's intentions to make her an uncaring person who doesn't really care much about someone who's "suicidal".

** Why would he need to tell them that, anyway? Igor's not evil from the protagonist's POV; sure, he's cryptic as hell, but so far he's been nothing but help to the protagonist (through fusion, social link and etc). Even if he told them about Igor's existence, it's not like they could do much about it since they cannot see him unless he specifically summons them to the Velvet Room. And they already have too much on their hands to worry about an unseen force that only the protagonist can interact with. Not to mention, at the beginning of the game the entire visit to the Velvet Room happened while the protagonist was (most likely if my memory's not mistaken) asleep, so he most likely crossed it off as a weird dream he had.

* Would they believe him if he told them? The Phantom Thieves didn't take Joker seriously when he told them about Igor. Everyone has their limits about what they can accept.

** I still struggle to believe that Namatame could subdue both Kanji and Naoto single-handedly unassisted. Are we sure that he had absolutely no input from Adachi (who would at least know how to subdue people as part of his job)?

* How was the novel in question bad, okay, [[LightNovel/KaraNoKyoukai Touko]] expy is not something to be keen on, and the MsFanservice treatment Naoto is getting could be funny, but how are stuff like a male Anti-Shadow weapon bad?

** It's ''supposed'' to be easy to miss. The team had been talking about the case right in front of him, so the player is led to assume that he'd just put two and two together. The catch is ''they never said anything about abductions''; it had been alluded to, not outright stated. Furthermore, up until they found the list Adachi had been playing the fool, acting like the rest of the cops who assumed the case had been solved, nor had there been any other kidnappings. So when he said "Then that settles it" like an established fact, it doesn't make sense.

* Namatame expresses his desire to "save" people he has seen on the Midnight channel. He has seen Yukiko, Kanji and Rise there and subsequently threw them into the TV World. While how he did it with Yukiko and Rise is understandable, just how the hell did he managed that with Kanji? In his backstory Kanji fought off an entire biker gang singlehandedly, and i'm supposed to believe that he couldn't punch out ONE depressed pencil-pusher?

** Also, we need to clarify something about Nauto: She hadn't made the connection until after Yu (ie, the Player) brought it up. She'd had a nagging feeling that there was something "''odd''" about Adachi, but couldn't figure out what. It wasn't until the crew began taking a hard look at Adachi's behavior that she remembered the slip-up