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*** Depends on the situation. You can't do this on kickoffs (in fact, pros normally use a tee -- a holder is a last resort if the ball just won't stay teed up). For field goals and extra points, this is viable ... although it also means that Lucy is the ball carrier. Guess what defending football players love to run into and tackle.


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*** While it's easy to call her stupid in many other respects, she's in her element in sports, including football. Yes, the only play she gives the team is a run up the middle, but it's good enough for them to get three touchdowns over the course of the game. Then again, in a real football game the kicker is normally protected a lot more -- and even if not, as mentioned earlier LUCY would be the target, what with her holding the ball and all. But instead Chuck whiffs the kick and has BOTH teams pile on top of him.


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** One of the girls is their star ''quarterback''. Now, the lack of other things you might want at a football game like, say, uniforms, padding, officials, and coaches? They blew the budget on the parade, I guess.


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**** Unlikely. While Charlie was a lot wilder in his younger days, the first appearance was Shermy noticing him coming down the street, calling him 'Good Ol' Charlie Brown' ... and the last panel voicing 'How I hate him!'.


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*** Well, if it's bad shipping ...


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** Sliding timescale. It affects many fictional characters, and not all of them are comics or comic strips.


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** For what it's worth, it's pretty likely Charlie Brown would be blond. Look at the known blood relative we see on-panel.


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** He's trying to crash in on Woodstock's totally outrageous pad, ya know.


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** Showing respect, force of habit, and to piss her off every so often. Although at the end I think Patty was just used to it, as if it were an odd nickname.


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** Schulz just couldn't draw cats that well.
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** Linus didn't know where Charlie Brown had went to, so he invited the LRHG to dance to keep her company until Charlie Brown returned. (It's equally possible that he was using her as an excuse to not have to dance with Sally.) It's Charlie Brown's own fault that took his book outside to read and fell asleep.
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** She's not very smart.
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* In a strip where Charlie Brown met Peggy Jean at camp, she writes to him after camp is over, but by the end of the summer, Charlie Brown has not received any letters from her. It turns out that this is because Sally kept sending away the mailman because the letters were addressed to “Brownie Charles” (the name Peggy Jean calls Charlie Brown, as he mistakenly introduced himself as to her). Why didn’t it occur to Sally that they were meant for Charlie Brown, considering the name “Brownie Charles” sounds very similar?

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* In a strip where Charlie Brown met Peggy Jean at camp, she writes to him after camp is over, but by the end of the summer, Charlie Brown has not received any letters from her. It turns out that this is because Sally kept sending away the mailman because the letters were addressed to “Brownie Charles” (the name Peggy Jean calls Charlie Brown, as he mistakenly introduced himself as to her). Why didn’t it occur to Sally that they were meant for Charlie Brown, considering the name “Brownie Charles” sounds very similar?similar to Charlie Brown's name?
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* In a strip where Charlie Brown met Peggy Jean at camp, she writes to him after camp is over, but by the end of the summer, Charlie Brown has not received any letters from her. It turns out that this is because Sally kept sending away the mailman because the letters were addressed to “Brownie Charles” (the name Peggy Jean calls Charlie Brown, as he mistakenly introduced himself as to her). Why didn’t it occur to Sally that they were meant for Charlie Brown, considering the name “Brownie Charles” sounds very similar?
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** She did tell Marcie the second time that they had to be boiled. Marcie came close to getting it right that time, if only she hadn't cracked the eggs into the boiling pot instead of putting them in with their shells. She may have gotten it right the next time. Peppermint Patty apparently didn't realize Marcie didn't know how to make boiled eggs.

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** She did tell Marcie the second time that they had to be boiled. Peppermint Patty apparently didn't realize Marcie didn't know how to make boiled eggs. Marcie came really close to getting it right that time, if only she hadn't cracked the eggs into the boiling pot instead of putting them in with their shells. She may have gotten it right the next time. Peppermint Patty apparently didn't realize Marcie didn't know how to make boiled eggs.
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** She did tell Marcie the second time that they had to be boiled. Marcie came close to getting it right that time, if only she hadn't cracked the eggs into the boiling pot instead of putting them in with their shells. She may have gotten it right the next time. Peppermint Patty apparently didn't realize Marcie didn't know how to make boiled eggs.
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* In the arc that introduces the Goose Eggs, Charlie Brown runs away from home because he bit the Kite-Eating Tree, and stays away for at least two days. When he reunites with his friends, Linus mentions that Charlie Brown can come home because the tree fell over and thus there's no evidence for a court case against him. BUT - at no point does Linus mention Charlie Brown's parents being worried about him. Did they even NOTICE their son was missing?
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* In the comic strip, there were tons of unseen elements like adults, the Little Red-Haired Girl, the inside of Snoopy's doghouse, and the cat next door. In the cartoons, all of these were eventually seen except the cat next door. Why was that the one thing Charles Schulz never allowed to be depicted in cartoons?
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*** Possibly a {{Defictionalization]]: [[http://www.walmart.com/ip/Candy-Store-Candy-Milk-Chocolate-Rocks-12-oz/10451715 Candy rocks]] now exist.

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*** Possibly a {{Defictionalization]]: [[http://www.{{Defictionalization}}: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Candy-Store-Candy-Milk-Chocolate-Rocks-12-oz/10451715 Candy rocks]] now exist.
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** Was the lemonade any good?
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** He's probably just desperate.
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* Why does Snoopy stick his nose in Woodstock's birdhouse in ''It's the Easter Beagle, Charlie Brown''?

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* Why does Snoopy stick his nose in Woodstock's birdhouse in ''It's the Easter Beagle, Charlie Brown''?''WesternAnimation/ItsTheEasterBeagleCharlieBrown''?
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*** Or that kids are, whether intentionally or unintentionally.


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*** As his best friend tells him during his very first television appearance: "Of all the Charlie Browns in the world, you're the Charlie Browniest!"


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*** Actually, most of the major characters have their ButtMonkey moments. Linus is bullied by his sister, has his beloved blanket stolen repeatedly by Snoopy, is stalked by Sally, and is mocked by the entire neighborhood for his faith in the Great Pumpkin. Lucy is renowned as a "fussbudget", gets the obedience of the other kids but not their respect, and loses every confrontation with Schroeder and Snoopy. Peppermint Patty is her own worst enemy. Any one of the Peanuts children could complain that the world is against them, but because our central character is Charlie Brown, we are more aware of his suffering than we are of the suffering of anyone else. Also, as pointed out by many others, he complains about it more than does anyone else.

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*** Because he's too nice of a guy to do that?



*** Yes, but here the reason he can't get it done is because of Peppermint Patty's party.



** A lot of it comes down to Shulz's love-em-or-leave-em approach to character development. Most of his characters (the big exceptions being Peppermint Patty, Marcie, and Spike) are built without much personality or character traits. He then lets them evolve naturally through his writing. (A perfect example is that Schroeder wasn't initially a piano player, until a one-day gag turned him into one) The down side to this is that some characters never really click and as a result fade to obscurity. So Patty, Violet, and Shermy (and later Franklin, since he didn't grow much either) faded not due to being replaced, but just due to more intereseting characters showing up.
* Franklin was introduced as a character that had never heard of Charlie Brown before, so he couldn't be Shermy. Also, his primary role was to be a foil to Peppermint Patty at ''her'' school, so again, Shermy couldn't fill that role. He was also designed to be the OnlySaneMan who found the stuff that went on weird, which again, Shermy couldn't do.

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** A lot of it comes down to Shulz's love-em-or-leave-em approach to character development. Most of his characters (the big exceptions being Peppermint Patty, Marcie, and Spike) are built without much personality or character traits. He then lets them evolve naturally through his writing. (A perfect example is that Schroeder wasn't initially a piano player, until a one-day gag turned him into one) The down side to this is that some characters never really click and as a result fade to obscurity. So Patty, Violet, and Shermy (and later Franklin, since he didn't grow much either) faded not due to being replaced, but just due to more intereseting interesting characters showing up.
* ** Franklin was introduced as a character that had never heard of Charlie Brown before, so he couldn't be Shermy. Also, his primary role was to be a foil to Peppermint Patty at ''her'' school, so again, Shermy couldn't fill that role. He was also designed to be the OnlySaneMan who found the stuff that went on weird, which again, Shermy couldn't do.



** In {{The Peanuts Movie}}, they still use corded phones. Those really haven't been a thing since the 90's

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** In {{The Peanuts Movie}}, they still use corded phones. Those really haven't been a thing since the 90's90's.


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** Peppermint Patty maybe just didn't think of that? This IS [[TheDitz Peppermint Patty]] we're talking about here.


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** Also, RuleOfFunny.
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* On the topic of "It's Your First Kiss", a lot of things don't make sense about the football game. Why are elementary aged kids having a homecoming game? Why are the girls allowed to play on the team? Why doesn't their team have uniforms? Why is Snoopy the referee and everyone accepts this even though he's a dog? How did Charlie Brown get assigned to escort The Little Red Haired Girl and not even know he was until the day of the game?
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* Speaking of the New Year's special, why did Linus hang out with the Little Red Haired Girl when he knows full well Charlie Brown has a crush on her? This only made things worse for Charlie Brown's already abysmal night.
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** In The Peanuts Movie, they still use corded phones. Those really haven't been a thing since the 90's

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** In The {{The Peanuts Movie, Movie}}, they still use corded phones. Those really haven't been a thing since the 90's
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*** Actually, all they did was censor out Peppermint Patty chewing out Charlie Brown. This is weird because at the dance scene, they still blame him for losing the game
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** In The Peanuts Movie, they still use corded phones. Those really haven't been a thing since the 90's
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** There is a theory that Marcie is Jewish or some other sort of denomination that doesn't celebrate Easter and that's why she keeps messing them up since she was never taught how to color eggs.
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** As for why Charlie Brown got blamed for what happened in "It's Your First Kiss, Charlie Brown", Peppermint Patty blames Charlie Brown for a lot of things (for instance, she pinned the blame on him for the time she "bowled" another student down the aisle). She's also very, very stupid. My guess is that she wasn't paying attention and just blamed him because that's her go-to response whenever something goes wrong.


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*** Or maybe there are folks in the ''Peanuts'' world that are crazy like Linus.


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** It's nothing personal against Charlie Brown, the other characters (aside from Linus, Schroeder, Marcie, and Franklin) are just jerks. Lucy in particular.


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** Because the special just COULDN'T allow Charlie Brown to get that report done and ENJOY his holiday break.
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** That special was actually based on a week of strips where a kid wins all of Reruns marbles and Charlie Brown goes and wins them all back. The special differs from the strip in that he has to be taught how to play marbles; in the strip he has ''always'' been good at the game, and the whole week of strips is really his CrowningMomentOfAwesome. It's my favorite week of ''Peanuts'' ever.

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** That special was actually based on a week of strips where a kid wins all of Reruns marbles and Charlie Brown goes and wins them all back. The special differs from the strip in that he has to be taught how to play marbles; in the strip he has ''always'' been good at the game, and the whole week of strips is really his CrowningMomentOfAwesome.SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome. It's my favorite week of ''Peanuts'' ever.
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** Because 5 cent psychiatric help is all he can afford on a weekly allowance of 50 cents (as indicated by ''Is This Goodbye, Charlie Brown?'' when Snoopy takes over the psychiatric help booth after the Van Pelts move away and increases the cost to 50 cents.)
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** There was an old website that said it was out of admiration and misguided manners.
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* Why does Charlie Brown keep going to Lucy for psychological help? She's the one who constantly makes him miserable in the first place!
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** You’d still think he would have figured it out after some time (perhaps from hearing someone else call her by her name).
** He does seem to know her name in the specials in which her name is mentioned to be Heather (as well as ''The Peanuts Movie''). What is strange is that he still calls her “the little red-haired girl” even after he already knows her name.
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***[[Film/TheShining Heeeeeeeeeeeeere's Lucy!]]

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*** This troper wonders if maybe he's a reformed neighbourhood bully and the rest of the kids aren't quite so quick to forgive.



** If you look at some of the early comics, it paints a picture of Charlie Brown as a huge JerkAss. Maybe he's a reformed neighbourhood bully but the rest of the kids aren't quite so quick to forgive.


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** Schulz did get a little softer on ol' Chuck later in the comic, this being but one example. The specials also tended to zig-zag on how he was treated. Even as early as ''You're In Love, Charlie Brown'' in 1967, he did manage to get the Little Red-Haired Girl's attention, something that never happened in the comic. [[StatusQuoIsGod Not that it was ever mentioned again.]]

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* Why does Snoopy stick his nose in Woodstock's birdhouse in the Easter special?

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* Why does Snoopy stick his nose in Woodstock's birdhouse in ''It's the Easter special?Beagle, Charlie Brown''?
* Another ''Easter Beagle'' headscratcher: Peppermint Patty and (especially) Marcie go through three batches of eggs because Marcie doesn't know how to boil them. Why didn't Patty show her what to do after the first batch, or even the second?

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