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* Where the heck is the Good Witch of the North?

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* Where the heck is the Good Witch of the North?North?
* The Wicked Witch of the East has lost her power at the end of the film due to Glinda taking off her necklace. How does she get it back enough to become such a menace that her death 20 years later results in celebration of being freed from her power?

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* In the beginning, when Oz and Theodora where hiding in that cave, where did that dove come from? I get that his jacket has hidden pockets, so I'm not questioning the trick, but he has two in the cage during the Kansas sceen, puts one in his jacket but not the other, and we see it fly away. Also, even if the other one was there, how did it not die in the tornado?

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* In the beginning, when Oz and Theodora where hiding in that cave, where did that dove come from? I get that his jacket has hidden pockets, so I'm not questioning the trick, but he has two in the cage during the Kansas sceen, scene, puts one in his jacket but not the other, and we see it fly away. Also, even if the other one was there, how did it not die in the tornado?tornado?
** Possibly he already had a dove in his pocket when the Kansas scene started. As for why it didn't die in the tornado, an even better question is why it didn't drown or at least break loose out of panic when he fell in the water.
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** Possibly Professor Marvel is Frank, who took up snake-oil selling after his old boss disappeared in the storm, and copied Oscar's style to do so.
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** You have to have lungs to inhale poppy vapors.
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** Who's to say that they grow and reproduce? Scarecrows and Tinmen (depending on who's mythology you're using) don't grow or reproduce they are made and remain unchanging. It wouldn't shock me to find out that China People are made and remain the same way they were made their entire lives.

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** Who's to say that they grow and reproduce? Scarecrows and Tinmen (depending on who's mythology you're using) don't grow or reproduce they are made and remain unchanging. It wouldn't shock me to find out that China People are made and remain the same way they were made their entire lives.lives.
*Where the heck is the Good Witch of the North?
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* This is more of a headscratcher for the book, but how do the china people grow and reproduce?

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* This is more of a headscratcher for the book, but how do the china people grow and reproduce?reproduce?
** Who's to say that they grow and reproduce? Scarecrows and Tinmen (depending on who's mythology you're using) don't grow or reproduce they are made and remain unchanging. It wouldn't shock me to find out that China People are made and remain the same way they were made their entire lives.
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*** Even if Glinda had perceived that he was going try to be a tyrant she might still have helped him. I'd much rather fight one man who's super power is being sneaky and thinking ahead a little than two witches who can actually throw energy bolts about. It's definitely a trade in the right direction. Still in practice Oscar doesn't seem to do much of anything in Oz aside from sit in the Emerald City doling out advice to folks and occasionally sending them to murder witches.

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*** Even if Glinda had perceived that he was going try to be a tyrant she might still have helped him. I'd much rather fight one man who's super power is being sneaky and thinking ahead a little than two witches who can actually throw energy bolts about. It's definitely a trade in the right direction. Still in practice Oscar doesn't seem to do much of anything in Oz aside from sit in the Emerald City doling out advice to folks and occasionally sending them to murder witches.witches.
* This is more of a headscratcher for the book, but how do the china people grow and reproduce?
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*** Further evidence of the "guardian" thing: notice how when they set up the Wizard's audiences with the people, the throne remains vacant, with the smoke and Oscar's head hovering over it. There is definitely an implication there that he doesn't "rule" the land, he just "watches over" it.
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*** Are you certain of that? Oz seems to believe that Glinda is Annie, for a moment.
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*** Except she's really not overly arrogant. She got tricked and it could have happened to anybody but she was absolutely correct that her army was more powerful, better trained and larger and the Wizard is no wizard at all. Her one mistake was not knowing anything of stage magic (why would she, she lives in a world with REAL magic) that when Oscar starts bringing in the tricks she's absolutely convinced that it's the real thing. If she'd so much as suspected that he was a trickster, and not liar taking advantage of her naive sister the movie would have had a much different ending.



** Oscar seems to have set himself up as more of a guardian of Oz, rather than a true leader. The people of Oz appear to be quite able to run the Emerald city and the other kingdoms without anybody bossing them about, which is perfect for Oscar because he doesn't have to manifest his presence at all in their lives to keep things running smoothly. By Dorothy's time, few people in Oz have ever even seen his "true form", implying that he is simply revered as an all-powerful force that watches over the people of Oz, but lets them be free to go about their daily business unoppressed. The only time the great and powerful Oz really needs to exercise his authority and/or use his "power" is when the kingdom is threatened by an outside force. Also, the audience should be reassured by the fact that while Oscar loves fame, fortune, and adoration, he is never cruel or tyrannical; he wants to dazzle people with a show, not make them wallow in servitude and torment. Finally, Glinda would have perceived if Oscar had intended to set himself up as a tyrant and would never have believed in him or helped him if he had been that kind of person.

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** Oscar seems to have set himself up as more of a guardian of Oz, rather than a true leader. The people of Oz appear to be quite able to run the Emerald city and the other kingdoms without anybody bossing them about, which is perfect for Oscar because he doesn't have to manifest his presence at all in their lives to keep things running smoothly. By Dorothy's time, few people in Oz have ever even seen his "true form", implying that he is simply revered as an all-powerful force that watches over the people of Oz, but lets them be free to go about their daily business unoppressed. The only time the great and powerful Oz really needs to exercise his authority and/or use his "power" is when the kingdom is threatened by an outside force. Also, the audience should be reassured by the fact that while Oscar loves fame, fortune, and adoration, he is never cruel or tyrannical; he wants to dazzle people with a show, not make them wallow in servitude and torment. Finally, Glinda would have perceived if Oscar had intended to set himself up as a tyrant and would never have believed in him or helped him if he had been that kind of person.person.
*** Even if Glinda had perceived that he was going try to be a tyrant she might still have helped him. I'd much rather fight one man who's super power is being sneaky and thinking ahead a little than two witches who can actually throw energy bolts about. It's definitely a trade in the right direction. Still in practice Oscar doesn't seem to do much of anything in Oz aside from sit in the Emerald City doling out advice to folks and occasionally sending them to murder witches.
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** Oscar seems to have set himself up as more of a guardian of Oz, rather than a true leader. The people of Oz seem to be quite able to run the Emerald city and the other kingdoms without anybody bossing them about, which is perfect for Oscar because he doesn't have to manifest his presence at all in their lives to keep things running smoothly. By Dorothy's time, few people in Oz have ever even seen his "true form", implying that he is simply revered as an all-powerful force that watches over the people of Oz, but lets them be free to go about their daily business unoppressed. The only time the great and powerful Oz really needs to exercise his authority and/or use his "power" is when the kingdom is threatened by an outside force.

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** Oscar seems to have set himself up as more of a guardian of Oz, rather than a true leader. The people of Oz seem appear to be quite able to run the Emerald city and the other kingdoms without anybody bossing them about, which is perfect for Oscar because he doesn't have to manifest his presence at all in their lives to keep things running smoothly. By Dorothy's time, few people in Oz have ever even seen his "true form", implying that he is simply revered as an all-powerful force that watches over the people of Oz, but lets them be free to go about their daily business unoppressed. The only time the great and powerful Oz really needs to exercise his authority and/or use his "power" is when the kingdom is threatened by an outside force. Also, the audience should be reassured by the fact that while Oscar loves fame, fortune, and adoration, he is never cruel or tyrannical; he wants to dazzle people with a show, not make them wallow in servitude and torment. Finally, Glinda would have perceived if Oscar had intended to set himself up as a tyrant and would never have believed in him or helped him if he had been that kind of person.
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** Oscar seems to have set himself up as more of a guardian of Oz, rather than a true leader. The people of Oz seem to be quite able to run the Emerald city and the other kingdoms without anybody bossing them about, which is perfect for Oscar because he doesn't have to manifest his presence at all in their lives to keep things running smoothly. By Dorothy's time, few people in Oz have ever even seen his "true form", implying that he is simply revered as an all-powerful force that watches over the people of Oz, but lets them be free to go about their daily business unoppressed.

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** Oscar seems to have set himself up as more of a guardian of Oz, rather than a true leader. The people of Oz seem to be quite able to run the Emerald city and the other kingdoms without anybody bossing them about, which is perfect for Oscar because he doesn't have to manifest his presence at all in their lives to keep things running smoothly. By Dorothy's time, few people in Oz have ever even seen his "true form", implying that he is simply revered as an all-powerful force that watches over the people of Oz, but lets them be free to go about their daily business unoppressed. The only time the great and powerful Oz really needs to exercise his authority and/or use his "power" is when the kingdom is threatened by an outside force.
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** Slavery and servitude (in the sense of "serving" a king) are two different things. The implication is that they were in slavery to the witches, but have more personal freedom while in Oz's power.

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** Slavery and servitude (in the sense of "serving" a king) are two different things. The implication is that they were in slavery to the witches, but have more personal freedom while in Oz's power.power.
** Oscar seems to have set himself up as more of a guardian of Oz, rather than a true leader. The people of Oz seem to be quite able to run the Emerald city and the other kingdoms without anybody bossing them about, which is perfect for Oscar because he doesn't have to manifest his presence at all in their lives to keep things running smoothly. By Dorothy's time, few people in Oz have ever even seen his "true form", implying that he is simply revered as an all-powerful force that watches over the people of Oz, but lets them be free to go about their daily business unoppressed.
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** But Evanora was able to show Theodora an image of Oscar and Glinda together in Munchkinland, if memory serves. That was in the bubble. However, most of the tinkering/workshopping was done indoors and underground, maybe the crystal has limits of where it can look? Perhaps not checking on Glinda and Oscar, because the Winkie Army was so powerful, is another sign of Evanora's arrogance.
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** I don't see the people of Oz complaining about his leadership by the time Dorothy shows up. So that's the kind of freedom he's offering.

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** I don't see the people of Oz complaining about his leadership by the time Dorothy shows up. So that's the kind of freedom he's offering.offering.
** Slavery and servitude (in the sense of "serving" a king) are two different things. The implication is that they were in slavery to the witches, but have more personal freedom while in Oz's power.
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** She is not made of flesh. It is the same reason the Scarecrow and the Tin Man were not affected, and this is flat out stated in Baum's book. Also, they do not die, just sleep.


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** This movie seems to suggest Theodora is vulnerable to water due to being a fire witch.
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* How was China Girl able to run through the poppy fields with Glinda's wand without dying?
* Is death by water only applicable to certain witches? It's not that only wicked witches are vulnerable, as Theodora got scarred when she cried before she was corrupted. And it's not that only good witches are vulnerable, as Glinda didn't get scarred when she cried after getting shackled by the two wicked witches. Is Theodora the only witch prone to this?
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* At the end, Oz has Glinda read a decree that concludes with "and the people of Oz shall be free" (or something of the sort). Free in what sense? Oz is going to rule over them as a seemingly omnipotent, invulnerable, absolute god-king. And he's going to keep his true nature secret from his subjects. What sort of freedom is he promising these people?

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* At the end, Oz has Glinda read a decree that concludes with "and the people of Oz shall be free" (or something of the sort). Free in what sense? Oz is going to rule over them as a seemingly omnipotent, invulnerable, absolute god-king. And he's going to keep his true nature secret from his subjects. What sort of freedom is he promising these people?people?
** I don't see the people of Oz complaining about his leadership by the time Dorothy shows up. So that's the kind of freedom he's offering.
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** Not to mention that the "soldiers" being used were running on a sort of technology never before seen in Oz. Given how little the witches thought of Oz, there were more likely to think that the poppy field somehow wasn't working, rather than that he actually got his shit together and invented a convenient fake army to trick them.

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** Not to mention that the "soldiers" being used were running on a sort of technology never before seen in Oz. Given how little the witches thought of Oz, there were more likely to think that the poppy field somehow wasn't working, rather than that he actually got his shit together and invented a convenient fake army to trick them.them.
* At the end, Oz has Glinda read a decree that concludes with "and the people of Oz shall be free" (or something of the sort). Free in what sense? Oz is going to rule over them as a seemingly omnipotent, invulnerable, absolute god-king. And he's going to keep his true nature secret from his subjects. What sort of freedom is he promising these people?
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** Here's a theory: the bubble shield is resistant to her magic.
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** It doesn't really make sense, but given how magic works in Oz it's entirely possible that the witches saw an army on the march and figured that the fog or some other magic was repressing the magical poppies. As is mentioned several times both here and on TheWizardofOZ page Oz seems to do whatever the heck it feels like and it's probably not a good idea to get comfortable with the idea that it's going to behave the same way today as it did yesterday. If you see something unusual investigate.

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** It doesn't really make sense, but given how magic works in Oz it's entirely possible that the witches saw an army on the march and figured that the fog or some other magic was repressing the magical poppies. As is mentioned several times both here and on TheWizardofOZ page Oz seems to do whatever the heck it feels like and it's probably not a good idea to get comfortable with the idea that it's going to behave the same way today as it did yesterday. If you see something unusual investigate.investigate.
** Not to mention that the "soldiers" being used were running on a sort of technology never before seen in Oz. Given how little the witches thought of Oz, there were more likely to think that the poppy field somehow wasn't working, rather than that he actually got his shit together and invented a convenient fake army to trick them.

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* The invasion over the poppy fields. Did the witches just completely forget that there was an impenetrable field of sleep-flowers on that side of the city walls?

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** You don't double check on a CurbStompBattle. She had basically banished Glinda by herself and now she's heading into a two on one battle because she believes the Great and Power Oz to be nothing at all. There is no evidence that she was watching much of them earlier certainly not enough to know that he's a trickster not just a liar.
* The invasion over the poppy fields. Did the witches just completely forget that there was an impenetrable field of sleep-flowers on that side of the city walls?walls?
** It doesn't really make sense, but given how magic works in Oz it's entirely possible that the witches saw an army on the march and figured that the fog or some other magic was repressing the magical poppies. As is mentioned several times both here and on TheWizardofOZ page Oz seems to do whatever the heck it feels like and it's probably not a good idea to get comfortable with the idea that it's going to behave the same way today as it did yesterday. If you see something unusual investigate.
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* If Evanora has a crystal ball that can see what Oz is doing at all times, why didn't they check to see what he was planning? Even if they were confident that it would have been a CurbStompBattle they could have at least checked to see if they were even going to send troops at all.

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* If Evanora has a crystal ball that can see what Oz is doing at all times, why didn't they check to see what he was planning? Even if they were confident that it would have been a CurbStompBattle they could have at least checked to see if they were even going to send troops at all.all.
* The invasion over the poppy fields. Did the witches just completely forget that there was an impenetrable field of sleep-flowers on that side of the city walls?
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** I think it's clear that he treated Theodora as the same kind of disposable love interest as May, though he may have been true about making her his queen -- but only if that's what it took to get his desired gold. Regretting it later is part of his CharacterDevelopment.

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** I think it's clear that he treated Theodora as the same kind of disposable love interest as May, though he may have been true about making her his queen -- but only if that's what it took to get his desired gold. Regretting it later is part of his CharacterDevelopment.CharacterDevelopment.
* If Evanora has a crystal ball that can see what Oz is doing at all times, why didn't they check to see what he was planning? Even if they were confident that it would have been a CurbStompBattle they could have at least checked to see if they were even going to send troops at all.
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* Is there any truth to what Evanora tells Theodora about what she did with Oscar, or was it a complete lie designed to push her idealistic sister over the DespairEventHorizon using Iago tactics? If the latter is the case, then did Oscar really intend to remain faithful to Theodora, was he really TheCasanova?

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* Is there any truth to what Evanora tells Theodora about what she did with Oscar, or was it a complete lie designed to push her idealistic sister over the DespairEventHorizon using Iago tactics? If the latter is the case, then did Oscar really intend to remain faithful to Theodora, was he really TheCasanova?TheCasanova?
** I think it's clear that he treated Theodora as the same kind of disposable love interest as May, though he may have been true about making her his queen -- but only if that's what it took to get his desired gold. Regretting it later is part of his CharacterDevelopment.
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** I wouldn't read too much into the AndYouWereThere thing. OTGAP is a bit confused about which continuity it wants to follow. It clearly is set up to evoke the 1939 movie ''thematically'', in terms of the aesthetics and overall feel, but continuity-wise it is more faithful to the books and is based on (however inconsistent) backstory Baum gave in the books for the Wizard's first arrival to Oz. In the 1939 movie, AndYouWereThere is a element of the AllJustADream ending, while in this movie the Land of Oz is clearly real. The duplicating actors are a thematic ShoutOut, nothing more.
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* In the beginning, when Oz and Theodora where hiding in that cave, where did that dove come from? I get that his jacket has hidden pockets, so I'm not questioning the trick, but he has two in the cage during the Kansas sceen, puts one in his jacket but not the other, and we see it fly away. Also, even if the other one was there, how did it not die in the tornado?

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* In the beginning, when Oz and Theodora where hiding in that cave, where did that dove come from? I get that his jacket has hidden pockets, so I'm not questioning the trick, but he has two in the cage during the Kansas sceen, puts one in his jacket but not the other, and we see it fly away. Also, even if the other one was there, how did it not die in the tornado?tornado?
* Is there any truth to what Evanora tells Theodora about what she did with Oscar, or was it a complete lie designed to push her idealistic sister over the DespairEventHorizon using Iago tactics? If the latter is the case, then did Oscar really intend to remain faithful to Theodora, was he really TheCasanova?
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** It's possible but unlikely. As is mentioned on the head scratchers for the Wizard of Oz, Oz seems to function based on whatever rules it feels like at any given moment. There don't seem to be duplicates for Glinda in the original and unless we're accepting the it was all a dream answer (in which case Oz might simply be made up of some combination of all the people who ever made an impression on the visitor. It would even explain why Oz seems to retcon with each new telling, the world literally warps itself around the visitor and their state of mind.) Though I guess if you take this as prequel to the original MGM movie it's entirely possible that when you go to Oz you get a duplicate of some sort. It would explain why Professor Marvel is in Kansas to get caught up in what is presumably a second tornado along with Dorothy and the Wicked Witch. Honestly it's probably best not to think about it too much. Oz, much like Wonderland effectively does what it wants, because it wants, how it wants.

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** It's possible but unlikely. As is mentioned on the head scratchers for the Wizard of Oz, Oz seems to function based on whatever rules it feels like at any given moment. There don't seem to be duplicates for Glinda in the original and unless we're accepting the it was all a dream answer (in which case Oz might simply be made up of some combination of all the people who ever made an impression on the visitor. It would even explain why Oz seems to retcon with each new telling, the world literally warps itself around the visitor and their state of mind.) Though I guess if you take this as prequel to the original MGM movie it's entirely possible that when you go to Oz you get a duplicate of some sort. It would explain why Professor Marvel is in Kansas to get caught up in what is presumably a second tornado along with Dorothy and the Wicked Witch. Honestly it's probably best not to think about it too much. Oz, much like Wonderland effectively does what it wants, because it wants, how it wants.wants.
* In the beginning, when Oz and Theodora where hiding in that cave, where did that dove come from? I get that his jacket has hidden pockets, so I'm not questioning the trick, but he has two in the cage during the Kansas sceen, puts one in his jacket but not the other, and we see it fly away. Also, even if the other one was there, how did it not die in the tornado?
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* How does Professor Marvel fit into this movie's universe? We're led to believe that all of the major characters in Oz [[AndYouWereThere have duplicates in the real world]], just like in the original film -- but what about Oz himself, who seems to exist in both worlds? Is there another fortune teller running around who looks like James Franco, but never got around to traveling to Oz?

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* How does Professor Marvel fit into this movie's universe? We're led to believe that all of the major characters in Oz [[AndYouWereThere have duplicates in the real world]], just like in the original film -- but what about Oz himself, who seems to exist in both worlds? Is there another fortune teller running around who looks like James Franco, but never got around to traveling to Oz?Oz?
** It's possible but unlikely. As is mentioned on the head scratchers for the Wizard of Oz, Oz seems to function based on whatever rules it feels like at any given moment. There don't seem to be duplicates for Glinda in the original and unless we're accepting the it was all a dream answer (in which case Oz might simply be made up of some combination of all the people who ever made an impression on the visitor. It would even explain why Oz seems to retcon with each new telling, the world literally warps itself around the visitor and their state of mind.) Though I guess if you take this as prequel to the original MGM movie it's entirely possible that when you go to Oz you get a duplicate of some sort. It would explain why Professor Marvel is in Kansas to get caught up in what is presumably a second tornado along with Dorothy and the Wicked Witch. Honestly it's probably best not to think about it too much. Oz, much like Wonderland effectively does what it wants, because it wants, how it wants.
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* How does Professor Marvel fit into this movie's universe? We're led to believe that all of the major characters in Oz [[AndYouWereThere have duplicates in the real world]], just like in the original film -- but what about Oz himself, who seems to exist in both worlds? Is there another fortune teller running around who looks like James Franco, but never got around to traveling to Oz?

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