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* At the end of the first novel, [[spoiler:Vlad takes the flag dreadnought and intends to lay waste to Shongaru with the implication that it's all he needs to completely wipe out all the Shongairi space assets in the system. Except in the third novel we see that the Shongairi have a sizable home fleet, including 3 dreadnought squadrons and 5 cruiser squadrons, plus two large orbital bases. There's no way a single dreadnought would be able to deal with all that]].
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* At the end of the first novel, [[spoiler:Vlad takes the flag dreadnought and intends to lay waste to Shongaru with the implication that it's all he needs to completely wipe out all the Shongairi space assets in the system. Except in the third novel we see that the Shongairi have a sizable home fleet, including 3 dreadnought squadrons and 5 cruiser squadrons, plus two large orbital bases. There's no way a single dreadnought would be able to deal with all that]].that. Granted, he'd be able to launch kinetic strikes against the planet at any distance, but he clearly intended to destroy everything in the system]].
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*** Indeed, conquering a race at our level of development is forbidden under galactic law, so no one ever needed to develop better means to do it. Only primitive races are fair game. Now, the second book does reveal they had better tech in their databanks that could have stood up to human tanks, but they didn't have it on hand, and their assembly units weren't at full capacity yet by the time it was all over.
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*** Indeed, conquering a race at our level of development is forbidden under galactic law, so no one ever needed to develop better means to do it. Only primitive races are fair game. Now, the second book does reveal they had better tech in their databanks that could have stood up to human tanks, but they didn't have it on hand, and their assembly units weren't at full capacity yet by the time it was all over.over.
* At the end of the first novel, [[spoiler:Vlad takes the flag dreadnought and intends to lay waste to Shongaru with the implication that it's all he needs to completely wipe out all the Shongairi space assets in the system. Except in the third novel we see that the Shongairi have a sizable home fleet, including 3 dreadnought squadrons and 5 cruiser squadrons, plus two large orbital bases. There's no way a single dreadnought would be able to deal with all that]].
* At the end of the first novel, [[spoiler:Vlad takes the flag dreadnought and intends to lay waste to Shongaru with the implication that it's all he needs to completely wipe out all the Shongairi space assets in the system. Except in the third novel we see that the Shongairi have a sizable home fleet, including 3 dreadnought squadrons and 5 cruiser squadrons, plus two large orbital bases. There's no way a single dreadnought would be able to deal with all that]].
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** They never needed a large scale team of analyst. Hell, the book specifically mentions they don't have real xeno-anthropologist among the puppies. They never faced a challenge that would require them to take their time.
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** They never needed a large scale team of analyst. Hell, the book specifically mentions they don't have real xeno-anthropologist among the puppies. They never faced a challenge that would require them to take their time.time.
*** Indeed, conquering a race at our level of development is forbidden under galactic law, so no one ever needed to develop better means to do it. Only primitive races are fair game. Now, the second book does reveal they had better tech in their databanks that could have stood up to human tanks, but they didn't have it on hand, and their assembly units weren't at full capacity yet by the time it was all over.
*** Indeed, conquering a race at our level of development is forbidden under galactic law, so no one ever needed to develop better means to do it. Only primitive races are fair game. Now, the second book does reveal they had better tech in their databanks that could have stood up to human tanks, but they didn't have it on hand, and their assembly units weren't at full capacity yet by the time it was all over.
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*** The second book addresses this. It's mentioned that subs lasted longer but they had to surface eventually, at which point they were promptly wiped out by orbital strikes.
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** They thought they already knew everything. They figured they had humanity and Earth all figured out. It's the nature of their race to think in terms of only large scale warfare. Once the war is won, all enemies willingly lay down their arm. The whole concept of guerilla warfare and making the enemy hunt each and everyone one of us down is unique to humanity. Still, the main problem was they got carried away by their own arrogance, their own belief and assurance that nothing and no one could possibly stop them. Why wait when you "know" you're going to win?
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** They thought they already knew everything. They figured they had humanity and Earth all figured out. It's the nature of their race to think in terms of only large scale warfare. Once the war is won, all enemies willingly lay down their arm. The whole concept of guerilla warfare and making the enemy hunt each and everyone one of us down is unique to humanity. Still, the main problem was they got carried away by their own arrogance, their own belief and assurance that nothing and no one could possibly stop them. Why wait when you "know" you're going to win?win?
** They never needed a large scale team of analyst. Hell, the book specifically mentions they don't have real xeno-anthropologist among the puppies. They never faced a challenge that would require them to take their time.
** They never needed a large scale team of analyst. Hell, the book specifically mentions they don't have real xeno-anthropologist among the puppies. They never faced a challenge that would require them to take their time.
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** They thought they already knew everything. They figured they had humanity and Earth all figured out. It's the nature of their race to think in terms of only large scale warfare. Once the was is won, all enemies willingly lay down their arm. The whole concept of gorilla warfare and making the enemy hunt each and everyone one of us down is unique to humanity. Still, the main problem was they got carried away by their own arrogance, their own belief and assurance that nothing and no one could possibly stop them. Why wait when you "know" you're going to win?
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** They thought they already knew everything. They figured they had humanity and Earth all figured out. It's the nature of their race to think in terms of only large scale warfare. Once the was war is won, all enemies willingly lay down their arm. The whole concept of gorilla guerilla warfare and making the enemy hunt each and everyone one of us down is unique to humanity. Still, the main problem was they got carried away by their own arrogance, their own belief and assurance that nothing and no one could possibly stop them. Why wait when you "know" you're going to win?
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* What I cannot understand is how the Shongair forces are intelligent enough to utilize surveillance drones and surface-to-orbit stealth reconnaissance platforms and figure out how to mask their approach towards our orbitals, but not intelligent enough, when they initially realize that humans are far more advanced than they previously thought, to consider taking their time in understanding their opponents instead of what they did: gathering a bunch of data that they could barely begin analyzing in one fell swoop, then bombarding our planet once they figured out where the military targets were. Plus, they wouldn't have been strapped for time. They could have poked around on our Internet as much as they wanted without anyone really noticing. And since they were on the far side of the Moon, we probably wouldn't have detected them for months, if not years. Why did they go in with so little intel on their opponents, when they had every opportunity to figure out how humans worked before they started their invasion, instead of during the invasion?
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* What I cannot understand is how the Shongair forces are intelligent enough to utilize surveillance drones and surface-to-orbit stealth reconnaissance platforms and figure out how to mask their approach towards our orbitals, but not intelligent enough, when they initially realize that humans are far more advanced than they previously thought, to consider taking their time in understanding their opponents instead of what they did: gathering a bunch of data that they could barely begin analyzing in one fell swoop, then bombarding our planet once they figured out where the military targets were. Plus, they wouldn't have been strapped for time. They could have poked around on our Internet as much as they wanted without anyone really noticing. And since they were on the far side of the Moon, we probably wouldn't have detected them for months, if not years. Why did they go in with so little intel on their opponents, when they had every opportunity to figure out how humans worked before they started their invasion, instead of during the invasion?invasion?
** They thought they already knew everything. They figured they had humanity and Earth all figured out. It's the nature of their race to think in terms of only large scale warfare. Once the was is won, all enemies willingly lay down their arm. The whole concept of gorilla warfare and making the enemy hunt each and everyone one of us down is unique to humanity. Still, the main problem was they got carried away by their own arrogance, their own belief and assurance that nothing and no one could possibly stop them. Why wait when you "know" you're going to win?
** They thought they already knew everything. They figured they had humanity and Earth all figured out. It's the nature of their race to think in terms of only large scale warfare. Once the was is won, all enemies willingly lay down their arm. The whole concept of gorilla warfare and making the enemy hunt each and everyone one of us down is unique to humanity. Still, the main problem was they got carried away by their own arrogance, their own belief and assurance that nothing and no one could possibly stop them. Why wait when you "know" you're going to win?
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* What I cannot understand is how the Shongair forces are intelligent enough to utilize surveillance drones and surface-to-orbit stealth reconnaissance platforms and figure out how to mask their approach towards our orbitals, but not intelligent enough, when they initially realize that humans are far more advanced than they previously thought, to consider taking their time in understanding their opponents instead of what they did: gathering a bunch of data that they could barely begin analyzing in one fell swoop, then bombarding our planet once they figured out where the military targets were. Why did they go in with so little intel on their opponents?
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* What I cannot understand is how the Shongair forces are intelligent enough to utilize surveillance drones and surface-to-orbit stealth reconnaissance platforms and figure out how to mask their approach towards our orbitals, but not intelligent enough, when they initially realize that humans are far more advanced than they previously thought, to consider taking their time in understanding their opponents instead of what they did: gathering a bunch of data that they could barely begin analyzing in one fell swoop, then bombarding our planet once they figured out where the military targets were. Plus, they wouldn't have been strapped for time. They could have poked around on our Internet as much as they wanted without anyone really noticing. And since they were on the far side of the Moon, we probably wouldn't have detected them for months, if not years. Why did they go in with so little intel on their opponents?opponents, when they had every opportunity to figure out how humans worked before they started their invasion, instead of during the invasion?
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* What happened to the submarines? I know there's quite a few other head-scratchers in this novel but think about it. IIRC the US, USSR, UK and France all have their own fleets of nuclear missile sub's - some of which operate independently from their main navies. Now, some of them could have been destroyed in the inital attack, but there should have been at least a few left over deep underwater or under the ice caps or something. Considering how unprepared the Shongaro were for facing humans, the last thing they'd expect to see would be a nuclear missile streaking up out the ocean to smack into them.
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* What happened to the submarines? I know there's quite a few other head-scratchers in this novel but think about it. IIRC the US, USSR, UK and France all have their own fleets of nuclear missile sub's - some of which operate independently from their main navies. Now, some of them could have been destroyed in the inital initial attack, but there should have been at least a few left over deep underwater or under the ice caps or something. Considering how unprepared the Shongaro Shongairi were for facing humans, the last thing they'd expect to see would be a nuclear missile streaking up out the ocean to smack into them.
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** So? It's still weird. The book explicitly mentions at least once that the puppies destroyed all the SURFACE ships. Makes a point of not mentioning the subs. You assume there's gonna be a roaring rampage of revenge from a nuke sub at some point... and there isn't. And hell, even the government only has a vague idea of where our subs are, that's the POINT.
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** So? It's still weird. The book explicitly mentions at least once that the puppies destroyed all the SURFACE ships. Makes a point of not mentioning the subs. You assume there's gonna be a roaring rampage of revenge from a nuke sub at some point... and there isn't. And hell, even the government only has a vague idea of where our subs are, that's the POINT.POINT.
* What I cannot understand is how the Shongair forces are intelligent enough to utilize surveillance drones and surface-to-orbit stealth reconnaissance platforms and figure out how to mask their approach towards our orbitals, but not intelligent enough, when they initially realize that humans are far more advanced than they previously thought, to consider taking their time in understanding their opponents instead of what they did: gathering a bunch of data that they could barely begin analyzing in one fell swoop, then bombarding our planet once they figured out where the military targets were. Why did they go in with so little intel on their opponents?
* What I cannot understand is how the Shongair forces are intelligent enough to utilize surveillance drones and surface-to-orbit stealth reconnaissance platforms and figure out how to mask their approach towards our orbitals, but not intelligent enough, when they initially realize that humans are far more advanced than they previously thought, to consider taking their time in understanding their opponents instead of what they did: gathering a bunch of data that they could barely begin analyzing in one fell swoop, then bombarding our planet once they figured out where the military targets were. Why did they go in with so little intel on their opponents?
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** They're fully aware of the world's nuclear capabilities, and nuclear submarines are going to be tightly watched by national governments. The puppies managed to rip the entirety of the Pentagon's database and almost every detail of military deployments, with particular emphasis on nuclear arms. They'll know the general area the subs are in, and they've got to emerge at some point. And sub captains are not going to fire nukes off without authorization or at least a good idea of where a target would be, which would require them to emerge, squirt off a transmission, and pray someone somewhere feeds them a target. That's one of the shitty things about being on a sub; you really have no idea what's going on elsewhere.
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** They're fully aware of the world's nuclear capabilities, and nuclear submarines are going to be tightly watched by national governments. The puppies managed to rip the entirety of the Pentagon's database and almost every detail of military deployments, with particular emphasis on nuclear arms. They'll know the general area the subs are in, and they've got to emerge at some point. And sub captains are not going to fire nukes off without authorization or at least a good idea of where a target would be, which would require them to emerge, squirt off a transmission, and pray someone somewhere feeds them a target. That's one of the shitty things about being on a sub; you really have no idea what's going on elsewhere.elsewhere.
**So? It's still weird. The book explicitly mentions at least once that the puppies destroyed all the SURFACE ships. Makes a point of not mentioning the subs. You assume there's gonna be a roaring rampage of revenge from a nuke sub at some point... and there isn't. And hell, even the government only has a vague idea of where our subs are, that's the POINT.
**So? It's still weird. The book explicitly mentions at least once that the puppies destroyed all the SURFACE ships. Makes a point of not mentioning the subs. You assume there's gonna be a roaring rampage of revenge from a nuke sub at some point... and there isn't. And hell, even the government only has a vague idea of where our subs are, that's the POINT.
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* So I read the main entry and I just don't get it. It says there that the twist ending was very suprising how could anyone NOT see it coming. I am not talking about the balant foreshadowing, I can see how fans of Weber might just find the twist to out of the left field for him. But for the love of god, its on the bloody blurb: [[spoiler:"Then, emerging from the mountains and forests of Eastern Europe, new allies present themselves to the ragtag human resistance. Predators, creatures of the night, human in form but inhumanly strong. Long Enemies of humanity...until now. Because now is the time to defend Earth."]]
I mean sure some people might have had a copy without it, but from reading the main page it would seem as if no one seen it at all.
** It's not in the blurb on my copy. There are also no spaces in the blurb on my copy, so... And calling it "blatant" is stretching. Blatant would have been if he was from TRANSYLVANIA! and there was thunder whenever anyone spoke his name.
* So I read the main entry and I just don't get it. It says there that the twist ending was very suprising how could anyone NOT see it coming. I am not talking about the balant foreshadowing, I can see how fans of Weber might just find the twist to out of the left field for him. But for the love of god, its on the bloody blurb: [[spoiler:"Then, emerging from the mountains and forests of Eastern Europe, new allies present themselves to the ragtag human resistance. Predators, creatures of the night, human in form but inhumanly strong. Long Enemies of humanity...until now. Because now is the time to defend Earth."]]
I mean sure some people might have had a copy without it, but from reading the main page it would seem as if no one seen it at all.
** It's not in the blurb on my copy. There are also no spaces in the blurb on my copy, so... And calling it "blatant" is stretching. Blatant would have been if he was from TRANSYLVANIA! and there was thunder whenever anyone spoke his name.
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** They're fully aware of the world's nuclear capabilities, and nuclear submarines are going to be tightly watched by national governments. The puppies managed to rip the entirety of the Pentagon's database and almost every detail of military deployments, with particular emphasis on nuclear arms. They'll know the general area the subs are in, and they've got to emerge at some point. And sub captains are not going to fire nukes off without authorization or at least a good idea of where a target would be, which would require them to emerge, squirt off a transmission, and pray someone somewhere feeds them a target. That's one of the shitty things about being on a sub; you really have no idea what's going on elsewhere.
* So I read the main entry and I just don't get it. It says there that the twist ending was very suprising how could anyone NOT see it coming. I am not talking about the balant foreshadowing, I can see how fans of Weber might just find the twist to out of the left field for him. But for the love of god, its on the bloody blurb: [[spoiler:"Then, emerging from the mountains and forests of Eastern Europe, new allies present themselves to the ragtag human resistance. Predators, creatures of the night, human in form but inhumanly strong. Long Enemies of humanity...until now. Because now is the time to defend Earth."]]
I mean sure some people might have had a copy without it, but from reading the main page it would seem as if no one seen it at all.
** It's not in the blurb on my copy. There are also no spaces in the blurb on my copy, so... And calling it "blatant" is stretching. Blatant would have been if he was from TRANSYLVANIA! and there was thunder whenever anyone spoke his name.elsewhere.
* So I read the main entry and I just don't get it. It says there that the twist ending was very suprising how could anyone NOT see it coming. I am not talking about the balant foreshadowing, I can see how fans of Weber might just find the twist to out of the left field for him. But for the love of god, its on the bloody blurb: [[spoiler:"Then, emerging from the mountains and forests of Eastern Europe, new allies present themselves to the ragtag human resistance. Predators, creatures of the night, human in form but inhumanly strong. Long Enemies of humanity...until now. Because now is the time to defend Earth."]]
I mean sure some people might have had a copy without it, but from reading the main page it would seem as if no one seen it at all.
** It's not in the blurb on my copy. There are also no spaces in the blurb on my copy, so... And calling it "blatant" is stretching. Blatant would have been if he was from TRANSYLVANIA! and there was thunder whenever anyone spoke his name.
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So I read the main entry and I just don't get it. It says there that the twist ending was very suprising how could anyone NOT see it coming. I am not talking about the balant foreshadowing, I can see how fans of Weber might just find the twist to out of the left field for him. But for the love of god, its on the bloody blurb: [[spoiler:"Then, emerging from the mountains and forests of Eastern Europe, new allies present themselves to the ragtag human resistance. Predators, creatures of the night, human in form but inhumanly strong. Long Enemies of humanity...until now. Because now is the time to defend Earth."]]
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** It's not in the blurb on my copy. There are also no spaces in the blurb on my copy, so... And calling it "blatant" is stretching. Blatant would have been if he was from TRANSYLVANIA! and there was thunder whenever anyone spoke his name.
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So I read the main entry and I just don't get it. It says there that the twist ending was very suprising how could anyone NOT see it coming. I am not talking about the balant foreshadowing, I can see how fans of Weber might just find the twist to out of the left field for him. But for the love of god, its on the bloody blurb: [[spoiler:Then, emerging from the mountains and forests of Eastern Europe, new allies present themselves to the ragtag human resistance. Predators, creatures of the night, human in form but inhumanly strong. Long Enemies of humanity...until now. Because now is the time to defend Earth.]]
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So I read the main entry and I just don't get it. It says there that the twist ending was very suprising how could anyone NOT see it coming. I am not talking about the balant foreshadowing, I can see how fans of Weber might just find the twist to out of the left field for him. But for the love of god, its on the bloody blurb: [[spoiler:Then, [[spoiler:"Then, emerging from the mountains and forests of Eastern Europe, new allies present themselves to the ragtag human resistance. Predators, creatures of the night, human in form but inhumanly strong. Long Enemies of humanity...until now. Because now is the time to defend Earth.]] "]]
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So I read the main entry and I just don't get it. It says there that the twist ending was very suprising how could anyone NOT see it coming. I am not talking about the balant foreshadowing, I can see how fans of Weber might just find the twist to out of the left field for him. But for the love of god, its on the bloody blurb: [[spoiler:Then, emerging from the mountains and forests of Eastern Europe, new allies present themselves to the ragtag human resistance. Predators, creatures of the night, human in form but inhumanly strong. Long Enemies of humanity...until now. Because now is the time to defend Earth.]] I mean sure some people might have had a copy without it, but from reading the main page it would seem as if no one seen it at all.
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So I read the main entry and I just don't get it. It says there that the twist ending was very suprising how could anyone NOT see it coming. I am not talking about the balant foreshadowing, I can see how fans of Weber might just find the twist to out of the left field for him. But for the love of god, its on the bloody blurb: [[spoiler:Then, emerging from the mountains and forests of Eastern Europe, new allies present themselves to the ragtag human resistance. Predators, creatures of the night, human in form but inhumanly strong. Long Enemies of humanity...until now. Because now is the time to defend Earth.]] ]]
I mean sure some people might have had a copy without it, but from reading the main page it would seem as if no one seen it at all.
I mean sure some people might have had a copy without it, but from reading the main page it would seem as if no one seen it at all.
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So I read the main entry and I just don't get it. It says there that the twist ending was very suprising how could anyone NOT see it coming. I am not talking about the balant foreshadowing, I can see how fans of Weber might just find the twist to out of the left field for him. But for the love of god, its on the bloody blurb: spoiler:Then, emerging from the mountains and forests of Eastern Europe, new allies present themselves to the ragtag human resistance. Predators, creatures of the night, human in form but inhumanly strong. Long Enemies of humanity...until now. Because now is the time to defend Earth./:spoiler I mean sure some people might have had a copy without it, but from reading the main page it would seem as if no one seen it at all.
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So I read the main entry and I just don't get it. It says there that the twist ending was very suprising how could anyone NOT see it coming. I am not talking about the balant foreshadowing, I can see how fans of Weber might just find the twist to out of the left field for him. But for the love of god, its on the bloody blurb: spoiler:Then, [[spoiler:Then, emerging from the mountains and forests of Eastern Europe, new allies present themselves to the ragtag human resistance. Predators, creatures of the night, human in form but inhumanly strong. Long Enemies of humanity...until now. Because now is the time to defend Earth./:spoiler ]] I mean sure some people might have had a copy without it, but from reading the main page it would seem as if no one seen it at all.
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** They're fully aware of the world's nuclear capabilities, and nuclear submarines are going to be tightly watched by national governments. The puppies managed to rip the entirety of the Pentagon's database and almost every detail of military deployments, with particular emphasis on nuclear arms. They'll know the general area the subs are in, and they've got to emerge at some point. And sub captains are not going to fire nukes off without authorization or at least a good idea of where a target would be, which would require them to emerge, squirt off a transmission, and pray someone somewhere feeds them a target. That's one of the shitty things about being on a sub; you really have no idea what's going on elsewhere.
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** They're fully aware of the world's nuclear capabilities, and nuclear submarines are going to be tightly watched by national governments. The puppies managed to rip the entirety of the Pentagon's database and almost every detail of military deployments, with particular emphasis on nuclear arms. They'll know the general area the subs are in, and they've got to emerge at some point. And sub captains are not going to fire nukes off without authorization or at least a good idea of where a target would be, which would require them to emerge, squirt off a transmission, and pray someone somewhere feeds them a target. That's one of the shitty things about being on a sub; you really have no idea what's going on elsewhere.elsewhere.
So I read the main entry and I just don't get it. It says there that the twist ending was very suprising how could anyone NOT see it coming. I am not talking about the balant foreshadowing, I can see how fans of Weber might just find the twist to out of the left field for him. But for the love of god, its on the bloody blurb: spoiler:Then, emerging from the mountains and forests of Eastern Europe, new allies present themselves to the ragtag human resistance. Predators, creatures of the night, human in form but inhumanly strong. Long Enemies of humanity...until now. Because now is the time to defend Earth./:spoiler I mean sure some people might have had a copy without it, but from reading the main page it would seem as if no one seen it at all.
So I read the main entry and I just don't get it. It says there that the twist ending was very suprising how could anyone NOT see it coming. I am not talking about the balant foreshadowing, I can see how fans of Weber might just find the twist to out of the left field for him. But for the love of god, its on the bloody blurb: spoiler:Then, emerging from the mountains and forests of Eastern Europe, new allies present themselves to the ragtag human resistance. Predators, creatures of the night, human in form but inhumanly strong. Long Enemies of humanity...until now. Because now is the time to defend Earth./:spoiler I mean sure some people might have had a copy without it, but from reading the main page it would seem as if no one seen it at all.
