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** As for Grogar's deal that said failure leads to servitude instead of death, Sombra broke the deal first. The deal was that if he succeeded in retaking The Crystal Empire, he would keep it. It said nothing about Sombra taking over Equestria as a whole. Sombra was the one who chose to go the extra mile. Grogar may have also thought that if he revived him, the other villains will feel like there is no consequence for failure and see Grogar's threat as all talk.Sure the warning might still work if he revived him again but better to be safe than sorry, at least to him.
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** As for Grogar's deal that said failure leads to servitude instead of death, Sombra broke the deal first. The deal was that if he succeeded in retaking The Crystal Empire, he would keep it. It said nothing about Sombra taking over Equestria as a whole. Sombra was the one who chose to go the extra mile. Grogar may have also thought that if he revived him, the other villains will feel like there is no consequence for failure and see Grogar's threat as all talk. Sure the warning might still work if he revived him again but better to be safe than sorry, at least to him.him.
** Answered later in the show: "Grogar" was actually just Discord in disguise. He orchestrated all the villains' attacks with the intention that they would fail so defeating them would build Twilight's confidence. And, in this case, his plan worked perfectly; Twilight defeated Sombra and gained a new form of insight and confidence in the magic of friendship and her abilities as a leader. Grogar didn't revive Sombra because Twilight defeating Sombra is exactly what "Grogar" wanted to happen.
** Answered later in the show: "Grogar" was actually just Discord in disguise. He orchestrated all the villains' attacks with the intention that they would fail so defeating them would build Twilight's confidence. And, in this case, his plan worked perfectly; Twilight defeated Sombra and gained a new form of insight and confidence in the magic of friendship and her abilities as a leader. Grogar didn't revive Sombra because Twilight defeating Sombra is exactly what "Grogar" wanted to happen.
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*** Cozy Glow was also stopped before she caused any tangible harm, just like Starlight and Discord were. I'm not saying she shouldn't have been punished, it's just odd the ponies decide immediately she has no chance of rehabilitation and needs to be put away for life when she's just a kid, especially considering the second chances they gave to others who committed horribly evil acts. Starlight enslaved an entire town, as well as any unfortunate travelers who happened to wander into it. She also nearly caused the apocalypse numerous times. Yet she never got so much as a single day in prison.
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** Cozy deliberately contacted and conspired with Tirek to create a spell to siphon all the magic out of Equestria. This was a deliberate act that was very carefully thought out and executed, there's no possibility that Cozy didn't understand what she was doing or what the effects would be. Not only would her plan have destroyed the Equestrian way of life it would have outright killed a ton of creatures as magic failed. Any creature performing a dangerous magic task would have had their spells fail randomly, potentially harming or killing them and anyone around them. Any Airborn creature would have fallen to their deaths. Cozy knew all this, did it anyway and didn't care or show any signs of remorse. Discord was all about causing chaos, there's no sign he had a body count and he's not accepted until he proves a genuine desire to reform. Starlight never intended her actions to be as damaging as they were, willingly let Twilight talk her down and then remained under Twilight's care and teaching after to learn the proper way to help ponies, showing remorse for her actions repeatedly. Cozy's destruction was deliberate, cruel and utterly remorseless, she was punished harsher because she deserved harsher punishment.
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* Why does Cozy Glow get such a brutal punishment? She's just a kid, and yet she gets thrown in prison for...life? Seriously, they don't say she'll ever be released, so that's the implication. Why throw the book at her when she's still young enough to be reformed? Adults like Discord and Starlight Glimmer, who committed even more serious crimes than Cozy Glow did, both got second chances, with little or no punishment at all. Why is Cozy Glow singled out as irredeemably evil, worthy only of incarceration?
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* So Chrysalis' part of the plan is to [[BitchInSheepsClothing use her Crackle Cosette disguise]] to fool ponies of all three races into thinking they're against each other. Seems to make enough sense considering [[ManipulativeBastard her aptitude for manipulation]] except for one little detail. Why didn't anyone think to investigate this and try to confirm whether or not she was being honest only to eventually denounce her as a liar? Furthermore, [[WhatAnIdiot why would they just immediately believe that without a second thought]] when Equestria's liable to regain its peace anytime pandemonium ensues thanks to the Mane Six ''and'' various ponies have interacted with each other before without any such issue whatsoever?
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* So Chrysalis' part of the plan is to [[BitchInSheepsClothing use her Crackle Cosette disguise]] to fool ponies of all three races into thinking they're against each other. Seems to make enough sense considering [[ManipulativeBastard her aptitude for manipulation]] except for one little detail. Why didn't anyone think to investigate this and try to confirm whether or not she was being honest only to eventually denounce her as a liar? Furthermore, [[WhatAnIdiot why would they just immediately believe that without a second thought]] thought when Equestria's liable to regain its peace anytime pandemonium ensues thanks to the Mane Six ''and'' various ponies have interacted with each other before without any such issue whatsoever?
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** It's possible they did, and we just didn't see them. That Calvary line was already massive. To try to shove [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters every single ally]] they have in there would just become overkill after a while.
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** It's possible they did, and we just didn't see them. That Calvary line was already massive. To try to shove [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters every single ally]] ally they have in there would just become overkill after a while.
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** There's also the fact that Rainbow Dash maintained her Wonderbolt career while teaching at the School of Friendship. Who's to say Silverstream couldn't be doing that as well?
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* So the play that Celestia and Luna are watching is obviously Theatre/{{Wicked}}, but [[AmazingTechnicolorPopulation green is a perfectly normal color for someone to be by the standards of this world]], so what exactly is Elphaba's condition?
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* So the play that Celestia and Luna are watching is obviously Theatre/{{Wicked}}, but [[AmazingTechnicolorPopulation green is a perfectly normal color for someone to be by the standards of this world]], so what exactly is Elphaba's condition?
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* Beyond kids show that limits on screen murder, why is it when the pony guard announces he's okay for being buried in show by them, they don't go to kill him. They are irredeemably evil (at least for now) villains and I'm sure they wouldn't want any witnesses that could rat their plan out to the heroes.
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* Beyond kids show that limits on screen murder, why is it when the pony guard announces he's okay for being buried in show snow by them, they don't go to kill him. They are irredeemably evil (at least for now) villains and I'm sure they wouldn't want any witnesses that could rat their plan out to the heroes.
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** She may well have attended Wonderbolt Academy, only for her skills not to measure up to Wonderbolt standards.
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** I don't think one was outright given, and that was probably the point; it's left ambiguous whether or not the Great Seedling really exists. So it could have been Big Mac but we don't know for sure (Apple Bloom even points out that the odds of all those apples falling to form that pattern by chance was unlikely).
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*** More than a dialog issue; his logic is a literal 180°, too. "The Crystal Empire"? Saw the need for a DeadMansSwitch against Celestia and Luna, and safeguarded the hell out of the Crystal Heart. Here? Assumes they're too scared to face him again, and leaves it out as a trophy. "The Crystalling"? Kept it intact, because of its anti–Frozen North effect. Here? Impales it with impunity.
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*** More than a dialog issue; his logic is a literal 180°, too. "The Crystal Empire"? Saw the need for a DeadMansSwitch against Celestia and Luna, and safeguarded the hell out of the Crystal Heart. Here? Assumes they're too scared to face him again, him, and leaves it out as a trophy. "The Crystalling"? Kept it intact, because of Couldn't just smash it; needed its anti–Frozen North effect. Here? Impales it with impunity.
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*** More than a dialog issue; his logic is a literal 180°, too. "The Crystal Empire"? Felt (correctly) the need for a DeadMansSwitch against Celestia and Luna, and safeguarded the hell out of the Crystal Heart. Here? Blindly thinks they're too scared to face him again; and keeps it exposed and unguarded, as a trophy. "The Crystalling"? Left it intact, because of its anti–Frozen North effect. Here? Impales it with impunity.
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*** More than a dialog issue; his logic is a literal 180°, too. "The Crystal Empire"? Felt (correctly) Saw the need for a DeadMansSwitch against Celestia and Luna, and safeguarded the hell out of the Crystal Heart. Here? Blindly thinks Assumes they're too scared to face him again; again, and keeps leaves it exposed and unguarded, out as a trophy. "The Crystalling"? Left Kept it intact, because of its anti–Frozen North effect. Here? Impales it with impunity.
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*** More than a dialog issue; his logic is a literal 180°, too. "The Crystal Empire"? Felt the need for a DeadMansSwitch against Celestia and Luna, and safeguarded the hell out of the Crystal Heart. Here? Assumes they're too scared to face him again, and keeps it '''''out in the open''''' as a trophy. "The Crystalling"? Left it intact, because of its anti–Frozen North effect. Here? '''''Impales it with impunity.'''''
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*** More than a dialog issue; his logic is a literal 180°, too. "The Crystal Empire"? Felt (correctly) the need for a DeadMansSwitch against Celestia and Luna, and safeguarded the hell out of the Crystal Heart. Here? Assumes Blindly thinks they're too scared to face him again, again; and keeps it '''''out in the open''''' exposed and unguarded, as a trophy. "The Crystalling"? Left it intact, because of its anti–Frozen North effect. Here? '''''Impales Impales it with impunity.'''''
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*** More than a dialog issue; his logic is a literal 180°, too. "The Crystal Empire"? Felt the need for a DeadMansSwitch against Celestia and Luna, and safeguarded the hell out of the Crystal Heart. Here? Assumes they're too scared to face him again, and keeps it '''''out in the open''''' as a trophy. "The Crystalling"? Left it intact, because of its anti–Frozen North effect. Here? '''''Repeatedly impales''''' it.
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*** More than a dialog issue; his logic is a literal 180°, too. "The Crystal Empire"? Felt the need for a DeadMansSwitch against Celestia and Luna, and safeguarded the hell out of the Crystal Heart. Here? Assumes they're too scared to face him again, and keeps it '''''out in the open''''' as a trophy. "The Crystalling"? Left it intact, because of its anti–Frozen North effect. Here? '''''Repeatedly impales''''' it.'''''Impales it with impunity.'''''
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*** More than a dialogue issue; his logic is a literal 180°, too. "The Crystal Empire"? Felt the need for a DeadMansSwitch against Celestia and Luna, and safeguarded the hell out of the Crystal Heart. Here? Assumes they're too scared to face him again, and keeps it '''''out in the open''''' as a trophy. "The Crystalling"? Left it intact, because of its anti–Frozen North effect. Here? '''''Repeatedly impales''''' it.
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*** More than a dialogue dialog issue; his logic is a literal 180°, too. "The Crystal Empire"? Felt the need for a DeadMansSwitch against Celestia and Luna, and safeguarded the hell out of the Crystal Heart. Here? Assumes they're too scared to face him again, and keeps it '''''out in the open''''' as a trophy. "The Crystalling"? Left it intact, because of its anti–Frozen North effect. Here? '''''Repeatedly impales''''' it.
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*** More than a dialogue issue; his logic is a literal 180°, too. "The Crystal Empire"? Felt the need for a DeadMansSwitch against Celestia and Luna, and safeguarded the hell out of the Crystal Heart. Here? Assumes they're too scared to face him again, and keeps it '''''out in the open''''' as a trophy. "The Crystalling"? Left it intact, because of its anti–Frozen North effect. Here? '''''Repeatedly impales''''' it.
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** Little kid show logic. That's why [[WesternAnimation/DoraTheExplorer Dora]] is asking the viewer obvious questions constantly rather than looking around in the slightest.
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** It was Big Mac was dropping them while walking in his sleep.
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* So Chrysalis' part of the plan is to [[BitchInSheepsClothing use her Crackle Cosette disugise]] to fool ponies of all three races into thinking they're against each other. Seems to make enough sense considering [[ManipulativeBastard her aptitude for manipulation]] except for one little detail. Why didn't anyone think to investigate this and try to confirm whether or not she was being honest only to eventually denounce her as a liar? Furthermore, [[WhatAnIdiot why would they just immediately believe that without a second thought]] when Equestria's liable to regain its peace anytime pandemonium ensues thanks to the Mane Six ''and'' various ponies have interacted with each other before without any such issue whatsoever?
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* So Chrysalis' part of the plan is to [[BitchInSheepsClothing use her Crackle Cosette disugise]] disguise]] to fool ponies of all three races into thinking they're against each other. Seems to make enough sense considering [[ManipulativeBastard her aptitude for manipulation]] except for one little detail. Why didn't anyone think to investigate this and try to confirm whether or not she was being honest only to eventually denounce her as a liar? Furthermore, [[WhatAnIdiot why would they just immediately believe that without a second thought]] when Equestria's liable to regain its peace anytime pandemonium ensues thanks to the Mane Six ''and'' various ponies have interacted with each other before without any such issue whatsoever?
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* Y'know, considering the blast took out a good chunk of Canterlot Castle, how the heck did the Mane 5, the Princesses, Spike and Discord survive? There's no real indication of a last second portal popup that might've softened the blow, and the next time we see them, they look completely fine. (well, physically speaking, they're still trapped)What happened there?
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* Y'know, considering the blast took out a good chunk of Canterlot Castle, how the heck did the Mane 5, the Princesses, Spike and Discord survive? There's no real indication of a last second portal popup that might've softened the blow, and the next time we see them, they look completely fine. (well, physically speaking, they're still trapped)What trapped) What happened there?
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** Besides, nobody said that Twilight and/or her friendswpuld die of old age. Twilight may very well die due to some illness.
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** Besides, nobody said that Twilight and/or her friendswpuld die of old age. Twilight may very well die due to some illness.
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* Why would Big Mac or Octavia even be interested in the position of vice-headmare to begin with? Trixie obviously thought that she could easily score a steady job where she could be close to her friend. The Doctor's intellectual nature could plausibly have attracted him to the position. Spoiled Rich might have been interested in the prestige of being second-in-command at a school founded by the Princess of Friendship. Yet neither Big Mac nor Octavia have ever expressed interest in anything even tangentially related to this position - Octavia even pulled out when she realized that the responsibilities would leave her with not much time for her music.[[note]]One would think she could have figured that out before applying.[[/note]]
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* Adult Scootaloo's wings are still the size of a foals, finally subverting InformedDeformity by showing her small wings are the reasons she can't fly. But then how is Bulk Biceps, [[https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2014/4/29/612647.png who has the same foal sized wings]] and far more bulk working against him, able to fly?
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** The Celestial Era was nothing but peaceful. There is no justification for this claim. It’s another thing the new writers like Nicole Dubuc screwed up.
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*** It was peaceful for the ponies with each other but they were not peaceful with the neighboring nations. The dragons and changelings were hostile and the yaks and the griffons weren't openly aggressive but neither were their relationships on good terms. All of these relations were made friendly due to Twilight's efforts.
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** The Celestial Era was nothing but peaceful. There is no justification for this claim. It’s another thing the new writers like Nicole Dubuc screwed up.
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** Even the retirement community itself seems to have no shortage of fun activities; we saw it once before in "The Point Of No Return", and among the activities were wind surfing, playing in a band, and a hybrid of a food fight and paintball. Failing that, Celestia and Luna are more than capable of travelling elsewhere if they so choose; it's possible that they just chose Silver Shoals Retirement Village as their new permanent home once they moved out of the castle, without necessarily planning to stay 24/7.
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** The blasts don't have to be equal in strength: one was a show of strength to demotalise the ponies the other was a blast to defeat them so they could be taken captive.
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* Y'know, considering the blast took out a good chunk of Canterlot Castle, how the heck did the Mane 5, the Princesses, Spike and Discord survive? There's no real indication of a last second portal popup that might've softened the blow, and the next time we see them, they look completely fine. (well, physically speaking, they're still trapped)What happened there?
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** Rather than split up the Cutie Mark Crusaders, they got kept together. And since the CMC formed because of Apple Bloom worry over not having a Cutie Mark, they got placed in Applejack's group.
