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** Probably because [[spoiler:he's the mayor.]] People in Moralton do their best not to disturb the status quo and I'd imagine that rule especially applies to Clay.

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** Probably because [[spoiler:he's the mayor.]] People in Moralton do their best not to disturb the status quo and I'd imagine that rule especially applies to Clay.Clay.
* But in the first place, HOW did such a despicable person like Clay manage to become a mayor? He had to win a vote, hadn't he?
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* So far everyone in Moralton knows Clay is a horrible alcoholic so why hasn't anyone given him a intervention about his drinking?

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* So far everyone in Moralton knows Clay is a horrible alcoholic so why hasn't anyone given him a intervention about his drinking?drinking?
**Probably because [[spoiler:he's the mayor.]] People in Moralton do their best not to disturb the status quo and I'd imagine that rule especially applies to Clay.
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** Extend their lineage, boost their imagery as a wholesome, Christian family; or, maybe early in their marriage they actually did want to have the family they couldn't have themselves.

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** Extend their lineage, boost their imagery as a wholesome, Christian family; or, maybe early in their marriage they actually did want to have the family they couldn't have themselves.themselves.
*We all know that the characters have puns and injokes for names but in the case of Mr. Nohammers, he owns a hardware store called "Nohammers Hardware" and this results in hundreds of phone calls about if he has hammers and explains "Yes we have hammers, no that's my name!" Now the one thing that bothers me about this is if Mr. Nohammers is tired of those phone calls about hammers... '''Why doesn't he just change his name?''' it would be easy as that!
* So far everyone in Moralton knows Clay is a horrible alcoholic so why hasn't anyone given him a intervention about his drinking?

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* If Clay and Blobberta hate eachother so much during Marriage then why did they have Orel in the first place? It also doesn't help that they neglect the boy and wordofgod says that Orel is not a accident.

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**Clay doesn't take the blame for shooting Orel, because, as Clay said, he doesn't remember. However, he takes the credit of shooting the bear, even though he doesn't know that he did shoot the bear. It's just a huge slap in the face for Orel.
* If Clay and Blobberta hate eachother so much during Marriage then why did they have Orel in the first place? It also doesn't help that they neglect the boy and wordofgod says that Orel is not a accident.accident.
**Extend their lineage, boost their imagery as a wholesome, Christian family; or, maybe early in their marriage they actually did want to have the family they couldn't have themselves.
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* In "Honor" Orel talks with Coach Stopframe and seems to be really hurt that Clay told everyone he killed the bear, and not Orel. But Orel himself was the one who refused to tell his father that he killed it out of spite, so why does he fell like his father should know he's lying all along?

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* In "Honor" Orel talks with Coach Stopframe and seems to be really hurt that Clay told everyone he killed the bear, and not Orel. But Orel himself was the one who refused to tell his father that he killed it out of spite, so why does he fell like his father should know he's lying all along?along?
*If Clay and Blobberta hate eachother so much during Marriage then why did they have Orel in the first place? It also doesn't help that they neglect the boy and wordofgod says that Orel is not a accident.
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** Fetuses masturbate and I'm sure as heck sure they don't know what sex is.
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***I'd argue that what makes him sympathetic is that it's implied he does love his family, but he's such a weak and dysfunctional person that for a lot of complex reasons he doesn't make said love a positive influence in his life, and he just poisons everyone he's near, and so the smartest, healthiest, sanest decision you can make is to just avoid him enough to avoid getting hurt. There's also empathy for how empty and miserable his life is implied will be for the rest of his life, and frankly probably always was. Orel arguably had a worse childhood than Clay, yet still had a fulfilling life; Clay did not. Most audience members want to believe they'd be like Orel in the face of adversity, when most at least suspect deep down there's a very real risk of turning out like Clay did to some degree. Most people would be terrified of wasting their lives the way Clay did, and if you're someone who generally dislikes seeing others in pain or feeling empty and lonely, it can strike a lot of nerves.
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** Maybe because every beating is actually for the completely wrong reasons. Orel raped women? He gets beaten up because he did so in an unholy manner(using a kitchen utensil). Beat another child to a pulp? He gets beaten for abandoning his old friends. Became a drug addict? He gets beaten for using slang. So his intentions are rather questionable, and you can argue spanking isn't the best punishment anyway. What I think is odd is that the one time Orel gets punished for something he did(for bathing in his friends' blood in "Grounded") it's listed as a KickTheDog moment(even more so because the reason Clay resorted to grounding him was that the beatings were obviously not working anymore).

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** Maybe because every beating is actually for the completely wrong reasons. Orel raped women? He gets beaten up because he did so in an unholy manner(using a kitchen utensil). Beat another child to a pulp? He gets beaten for abandoning his old friends. Became a drug addict? He gets beaten for using slang. So his intentions are rather questionable, and you can argue spanking isn't the best punishment anyway. What I think is odd is that the one time Orel gets punished for something he did(for bathing in his friends' blood in "Grounded") it's listed as a KickTheDog moment(even more so because the reason Clay resorted to grounding him was that the beatings were obviously not working anymore).anymore).
* In "Honor" Orel talks with Coach Stopframe and seems to be really hurt that Clay told everyone he killed the bear, and not Orel. But Orel himself was the one who refused to tell his father that he killed it out of spite, so why does he fell like his father should know he's lying all along?
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* People say that Clay is abusive because he beats Orel. (Well, admittedly that's not the end of it.) Let's see, Orel has raped women, killed men, beat another child to a pulp, became a drug addict, and raised the dead, who then feasted upon the living. Seriously, [[AccidentalInnuendo is he getting off so hard]]?

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* People say that Clay is abusive because he beats Orel. (Well, admittedly that's not the end of it.) Let's see, Orel has raped women, killed men, beat another child to a pulp, became a drug addict, and raised the dead, who then feasted upon the living. Seriously, [[AccidentalInnuendo is he getting off so hard]]?hard]]?
** Maybe because every beating is actually for the completely wrong reasons. Orel raped women? He gets beaten up because he did so in an unholy manner(using a kitchen utensil). Beat another child to a pulp? He gets beaten for abandoning his old friends. Became a drug addict? He gets beaten for using slang. So his intentions are rather questionable, and you can argue spanking isn't the best punishment anyway. What I think is odd is that the one time Orel gets punished for something he did(for bathing in his friends' blood in "Grounded") it's listed as a KickTheDog moment(even more so because the reason Clay resorted to grounding him was that the beatings were obviously not working anymore).
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*** I feel sympathetic for Clay
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** Fundamentalist Christians aren't allowed to divorce,lest they be seen as ''unholy'' by thier fellow peers.

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** Fundamentalist Christians aren't allowed to divorce,lest divorce, lest they be seen as ''unholy'' by thier fellow peers.
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* Is it just me, or is Clay really not that sympathetic at all. Young Clay is listed as a Woobie, and older Clay as a Jerk Ass Woobie, but honestly I feel like Young Clay deserves the latter title (at best), and adult Clay deserves no such thing. [[spoiler:Young Clay was self-indulgent, accidently killed his mother, and seemed more concerned with chastising his step-dad for saying there was no Heaven than he was with the fact that his mother just died. To make matters worse, the poor guy tried to get on well with Clay, and even planned to give him his treasured 'Ol Gunny,' and while he wasn't a great parent self-indulgent Clay gave him nothing to workwith. Too make matters worse, self-indulgent Clay monopolized his mother's attention and affection, forcing Senior Puffington to make due with almost nothing. Then, after his wife died Clay provoked him and provoked him for his own selfish needs, not once considering the idea that he should try to comfort or identify with the man.]] And we all know about the atrocities adult clay commited.

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* Is it just me, or is Clay really not that sympathetic at all. all? Young Clay is listed as a Woobie, and older Clay as a Jerk Ass Woobie, but honestly I feel like Young Clay deserves the latter title (at best), and adult Clay deserves no such thing. [[spoiler:Young Clay was self-indulgent, accidently killed his mother, and seemed more concerned with chastising his step-dad for saying there was no Heaven than he was with the fact that his mother just died. To make matters worse, the poor guy tried to get on well with Clay, and even planned to give him his treasured 'Ol Gunny,' and while he wasn't a great parent self-indulgent Clay gave him nothing to workwith. Too make matters worse, self-indulgent Clay monopolized his mother's attention and affection, forcing Senior Puffington to make due with almost nothing. Then, after his wife died Clay provoked him and provoked him for his own selfish needs, not once considering the idea that he should try to comfort or identify with the man.]] And we all know about the atrocities adult clay commited.
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** He probably was, but tried to brush it off by acting smarmy and indifferent, and then got too drunk to care or remember.

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** He probably was, but tried to brush it off by acting smarmy and indifferent, and then got too drunk to care or remember.remember.
* People say that Clay is abusive because he beats Orel. (Well, admittedly that's not the end of it.) Let's see, Orel has raped women, killed men, beat another child to a pulp, became a drug addict, and raised the dead, who then feasted upon the living. Seriously, [[AccidentalInnuendo is he getting off so hard]]?
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** Well, Clay is essentially Satan in human form. He did have some redeeming qualities at one point in his life, but he tossed them away like garbage. He even admits to hating himself while drunk. In fact, by the last episode, Coach Stopframe, being the last person to really show him affection, dumps him. This shows what he is and what he has been all along: pathetic. He may not be very sympathetic, but he is pitiful, just like Satan. People like Clay really do exist in real life, and they are just as pathetic as he is.

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** Well, Clay is essentially Satan in human form. He did have some redeeming qualities at one point in his life, but he tossed them away like garbage. He even admits to hating himself while drunk. In fact, by the last episode, Coach Stopframe, being the last person to really show him affection, dumps him. This shows what he is and what he has been all along: pathetic. He may not be very sympathetic, but he is pitiful, just like Satan. People like Clay really do exist in real life, and they are just as pathetic as he is. CryForTheDevil, indeed.
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** Well, Clay is essentially Satan in human form. He did have some redeeming qualities at one point in his life, but he tossed them away like garbage. He even admits to hating himself while drunk. In fact, by the last episode, Coach Stopframe, being the last person to really show him affection, dumps him. This shows what he is and what he has been all along: pathetic. He may not be very sympathetic, but he is pitiful, just like Satan. People like Clay really do exist in real life, and they are just as pathetic as he is.
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** This troper was raised by evangelical parents who made no secret at home that they hated one another, they didn't divorce for the sake of appearance and due to a twisted sense of religious guilt. It definitely happens.
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** Putti comments on his pureness because Orel (who is 11 or 12) apparently doesn't know the F-word.

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** Putti Putty comments on his pureness because Orel (who is 11 or 12) apparently doesn't know the F-word.
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** Putti comments on his pureness because Orel (who is 11 or 12) apparently doesn't know the F-word.
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* When Clay says "Hate away, sister. Hate away", is he insulted or not?

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* When Clay says "Hate away, sister. Hate away", is he insulted or not?not?
** He probably was, but tried to brush it off by acting smarmy and indifferent, and then got too drunk to care or remember.
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**Clay would purposely try to instigate and emotional response as much as he possible could from his father in 'order' to be slapped,because he began to associate being phycically hit to actually being worth it,and as a result "loved" in Clay's twisted mind.
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* Why is Arthur slapping Clay after he has declared that he is not worth it?

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* Why is Arthur slapping Clay after he has declared that he is not worth it?it?
* When Clay says "Hate away, sister. Hate away", is he insulted or not?
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** Because Orel is a better person than Clay is and would not shut his parents out despite how horrible they've been.

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** Because Orel is a better person than Clay is and would not shut his parents out despite how horrible they've been.been.
* Why is Arthur slapping Clay after he has declared that he is not worth it?
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** They're actually supposed to be one of the more stable and normal couples. Everyone sees their marrage as the status quo, and if nothing else Moralton is ''all'' about preserving the status quo.
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** Because that's not the type of person Orel is.


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*** Yet in RealLife, they have the highest divorce rates in America.
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**Fundamentalist Christians aren't allowed to divorce,lest they be seen as ''unholy'' by thier fellow peers.
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* Why did Orel shoot the bear rather letting it kill Clay? Besides, he's CompleteMonster and death is what those kind of villains get.
* If Clay and Bloberta hate each other, why can't they divorce?
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** My guess is that he uses the Christian value of forgiveness. I mean,after how corrupt nearly everyone in Moralton was,Oral ''still'' has a cross hung up in his living room. And despites Bloberta and Clay's terrible parenting,the kids [[spoiler:Did turn out normal,with Shapey and Blocky being a Policeman and a Fireman,respectively and Oral ended up a good guy even after all the crap he'd been put through.]] But that could just be because of the efforts of the few sane people in Moralton,such as Stephanie, Daniel Stopframe and Reverend Putty.

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** My guess is that he uses the Christian value of forgiveness. I mean,after how corrupt nearly everyone in Moralton was,Oral ''still'' has a cross hung up in his living room. And despites Bloberta and Clay's terrible parenting,the kids [[spoiler:Did turn out normal,with Shapey and Blocky being a Policeman and a Fireman,respectively and Oral ended up a good guy even after all the crap he'd been put through.]] But that could just be because of the efforts of the few sane people in Moralton,such as Stephanie, Daniel Stopframe and Reverend Putty.Putty.
** Because Orel is a better person than Clay is and would not shut his parents out despite how horrible they've been.
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** My guess is that he uses the Christian value of forgiveness. I mean,after how corrupt nearly everyone in Moralton was,Oral ''still'' has a cross hung up in his living room. And despites Bloberta and Clay's terrible parenting,the kids [[Spoiler: Did turn out normal,with Shapey and Blocky being a Policeman and a Fireman,respectively and Oral ended up a good guy even after all the crap he'd been put through.]] But that could just be because of the efforts of the few sane people in Moralton,such as Stephanie, Daniel Stopframe and Reverend Putty.

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** My guess is that he uses the Christian value of forgiveness. I mean,after how corrupt nearly everyone in Moralton was,Oral ''still'' has a cross hung up in his living room. And despites Bloberta and Clay's terrible parenting,the kids [[Spoiler: Did [[spoiler:Did turn out normal,with Shapey and Blocky being a Policeman and a Fireman,respectively and Oral ended up a good guy even after all the crap he'd been put through.]] But that could just be because of the efforts of the few sane people in Moralton,such as Stephanie, Daniel Stopframe and Reverend Putty.
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** My guess is that he uses the Christian value of forgiveness. I mean,after how corrupt nearly everyone in Moralton was,Oral ''still'' has a cross hung up in his living room.

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** My guess is that he uses the Christian value of forgiveness. I mean,after how corrupt nearly everyone in Moralton was,Oral ''still'' has a cross hung up in his living room. And despites Bloberta and Clay's terrible parenting,the kids [[Spoiler: Did turn out normal,with Shapey and Blocky being a Policeman and a Fireman,respectively and Oral ended up a good guy even after all the crap he'd been put through.]] But that could just be because of the efforts of the few sane people in Moralton,such as Stephanie, Daniel Stopframe and Reverend Putty.
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* If Orel now hates Clay, [[spoiler:why does he have a portrait of his father and mother? Shouldn't he be out of their lives now that he somewhat knows that the latter is entirely responsible for turning his family dysfunctional?]]

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* If Orel now hates Clay, [[spoiler:why does he have a portrait of his father and mother? Shouldn't he be out of their lives now that he somewhat knows that the latter is entirely responsible for turning his family dysfunctional?]]dysfunctional?]]
** My guess is that he uses the Christian value of forgiveness. I mean,after how corrupt nearly everyone in Moralton was,Oral ''still'' has a cross hung up in his living room.

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