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**** In this case, she may have choked because, as far as she knew, Ridley was SUPER dead. She may have experienced a combined PTSD moment anf "How the hell are you still alive" moment.
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** It may have been different equipment to fit the area. The Federation Marines were being sent planetside, with little risk from collateral damage (wheread on a space station, hitting the wrong thing with an energy round could basically kill everyone),and no inclination for preservation (whereas the Bottle Ship held Federation R&D projects that they were trying to keep).
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** Because Samus isn't a psycho who's going to blast some random creature just because a player with a decade's worth of hindsight already knows that it grows up to be a clone of Ridley. You're asking her why she didn't make a decision based on information ''she did not have''.
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*** When the military sends out a distress signal they expect other military personnel to respond to it, not a random bounty hunter. Same reason the Space Pirates were surprised, she's not who they were expecting to show up.
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* Why, exactly, doesn't Samus pump Little Birdie full of beams/missiles until the creature's guts are strewn across the floor and it is unquestionably dead? And even if Little Birdie hadn't done anything openly hostile in its first appearance yet, Samus has reason to assume that its cries can drive other creatures into a berserker rage after the Kihunter Nest battle. In addition, there's nothing to suggest Little Birdie is as resilient as Ridley is. Killing it at that point could have helped Samus avoid multiple encounters from that point onward, not to mention possibly foiling the Deleter's plot.
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This isn't a question, it's just complaining. Yes, the villains of the piece are short-sighted. Also, what you see is their work IN PROGRESS, not complete. It's like saying, "Sheesh, what are these people thinking with this gunpowder stuff? What good is a weapon that's just some dust that explodes in your hand?"
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* On the lava note, why would the scientists create an area they couldn't enter because of superheated air? Alright, so maybe you have suits to protect against that kind of thing. But, in general, why were these environments made to, as I understand it (and I do), produce BIOWEAPONS??? It isn't exactly an effective bioweapon if it can only exist in an area where no one can ever go because of the conditions and can't leave it. Wait wait, I'm still not done. So they've created Metroids that can survive uninhibited in arctic conditions. So maybe that problem was on its way to being solved. But then, that also greatly increases the risk of the experiments going rogue if they were successful! As proven by the latter half of this damn game! If the giantass lava creature they already can't reliably contain WITHIN the confines of the area housing it, were suddenly able to survive OUTSIDE those confines? The fuck are they gonna do? Oh, I guess we'll just aim some ice at it--oh nevermind guys, that won't work anymore. The entire idea behind this is doubly stupid even when you ignore that these guys are morons for trying to do the same thing the Space Pirates continually fail at. WHY? Someone explain! Please!
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** Space is ''big''. It's entirely possible that Samus's ship is simply the only one near enough to respond.
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** It's possible Adam was either A) already aware of most of the core systems in Samus' suit, and B) operating under the assumption that she'd activate various basic subsystems on her own
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** Additionally, Samus's narration stresses that Baby's Cry is an urgent "all capable units respond" distress signal. ''Hunters'' and ''Prime'' establish there are other independent contractors out there who would be ''salivating'' at the chance to save a Federation black site and trade their silence for a blank cheque. Why is Samus the only one who responds?
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** The Metroid DNA? They show it in the opening cutscene: the infant Metroid is blasted by Mother Brain and basically pops, sending tiny bits of it all over.
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*** Actually, there's a possible explanation for that: If you recall, Samus receives all of her Missile upgrades in ''Fusion'' in the form of data downloads provided by the Federation, and the same team later ''deliberately withheld the Plasma Beam'' from her to limit the amount of damage she could do to specimens that the Federation wanted to keep around. If they're that interested in keeping the SA-X alive for capture, then surely they would want to prevent Samus from eliminating the Metroids that are being bred in the BSL station's secret lab, too. With that in mind, they probably designed her Missile upgrades to be effective against everything ''except'' the Metroids. When Samus later regained the Ice Beam from the SA-X and combined it with the Plasma Beam, she had a tool that could damage them.
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* So how did DNA get onto Samus's suit anyway? The metriod games are not known for their gore after all. Samus shoots hot power beams and cold ice beams to defeat her foes. The hot beams would destroy the DNA outright and the ice would contain it. No mess, no fuss.
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* So how did DNA get onto Samus's suit anyway? The metriod Metroid games are not known for their gore after all. Samus shoots hot power beams and cold ice beams to defeat her foes. The hot beams would destroy the DNA outright and the ice would contain it. No mess, no fuss.
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* If Samus' suit disappears when she's not focusing, how did it stay on when she was unconscious at the start of the game? The whole plot is due to it remaining on in order for them to get the DNA on it.
** It's was on in the flashback. It only abruptly failed when Samus was under extreme emotional distress. Otherwise, it stayed on long enough for them to get DNA off it.
** What if there was a purification chamber she had to go through, which would wash off anyone's suit in seconds? Considering what we have seen of several Sci-fi games, this is the most suitable explanation.
** It's was on in the flashback. It only abruptly failed when Samus was under extreme emotional distress. Otherwise, it stayed on long enough for them to get DNA off it.
** What if there was a purification chamber she had to go through, which would wash off anyone's suit in seconds? Considering what we have seen of several Sci-fi games, this is the most suitable explanation.
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** If Samus's suit disintegrates then why/how does it needed to be "polished?"
*** Whenever Samus turns the suit back on, it's put back in the same shape it was in last time it was turned off, including any accumulated dirt, fluids, etc. Just like how you keep the same energy and missiles after cutscenes where the suit disappears.
*** Whenever Samus turns the suit back on, it's put back in the same shape it was in last time it was turned off, including any accumulated dirt, fluids, etc. Just like how you keep the same energy and missiles after cutscenes where the suit disappears.
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** One can figure that Adam didn't want Samus to have full run of the ship, if she could potentially be the Deleter, so he wouldn't want to authorize such unless necessary, with Samus playing everything by the book (taking the outsider comment from Adam a bit harshly) since he wouldn't trust her otherwise.
** Adam has no reason to suspect that there's a traitor among his crew from the start. Samus figures that out on her own. If she claimed that there's a traitor (she didn't say because she didn't know who to trust), he might have decided "Hey maybe I should let her use more of her stuff so that the traitor doesn't kill anyone on my team."
** Adam has no reason to suspect that there's a traitor among his crew from the start. Samus figures that out on her own. If she claimed that there's a traitor (she didn't say because she didn't know who to trust), he might have decided "Hey maybe I should let her use more of her stuff so that the traitor doesn't kill anyone on my team."
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* Speaking of the armor (among other things), wouldn't it have been a really good idea for Adam to pull Samus aside at the beginning and say, "Okay, so you're working with us. What's in that suit of yours?" She tells him, he authorizes what he thinks will help (the suits, at minimum, and possibly the increased mobility stuff), tells her what he's not going to authorize, and then: "This other stuff... if you find a need to use it, give me a call." It's kind of horrifying that he lets her get to a battle with a lava monster before ''he'' has to tell her, unsolicited, to turn it on. Concentration makes it a little less terrible, but still...
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* Speaking of the armor (among other things), wouldn't it have been a really good idea for Adam to pull Samus aside at the beginning and say, "Okay, so you're working with us. What's in that suit of yours?" She tells him, he authorizes what he thinks will help (the suits, at minimum, and possibly the increased mobility stuff), tells her what he's not going to authorize, and then: "This other stuff... if you find a need to use it, give me a call." It's kind of horrifying that he lets her get to a battle with a lava monster before ''he'' has to tell her, unsolicited, to turn it on. Concentration makes it a little less terrible, but still...
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* About the authorization system, which is allegedly due to wanting to avoid the collateral damage from such items like the Power Bomb. 1. What about non-offensive abilities like the Varia Suit, a purely defensive item with no potential collateral? 2. If the Wave Beam can cause collateral by shooing through walls, why not de-authorize it afterwards?
* When Samus first explores [[LethalLavaLand the Pyrosphere]], why does Adam wait until near the end to authorize the heat-resistant Varia Suit until near the end? If he ordered Samus to explore it, why risk her by allowing heat damage?
* Note that when Adam finally tells her to turn on the Varia Suit, he doesn't say "I'm authorizing the Varia feature"; he just says "Samus, activate the Varia feature". Between that and the fact that Adam does respect and care about Samus (despite it not being shown very well in the game), he probably assumed from the start that she would be smart enough to use defensive gear without him having to authorize it. Him "allowing" her to use it is more likely him coming back from checking on the status of the station and the rest of his team (if you recall, he'd mentioned that something was interfering with the marines' communication systems and he was going to be monitoring them from the command deck) and realizing that she's been waltzing through Sector 3 without using vital protective gear.
* When Samus first explores [[LethalLavaLand the Pyrosphere]], why does Adam wait until near the end to authorize the heat-resistant Varia Suit until near the end? If he ordered Samus to explore it, why risk her by allowing heat damage?
* Note that when Adam finally tells her to turn on the Varia Suit, he doesn't say "I'm authorizing the Varia feature"; he just says "Samus, activate the Varia feature". Between that and the fact that Adam does respect and care about Samus (despite it not being shown very well in the game), he probably assumed from the start that she would be smart enough to use defensive gear without him having to authorize it. Him "allowing" her to use it is more likely him coming back from checking on the status of the station and the rest of his team (if you recall, he'd mentioned that something was interfering with the marines' communication systems and he was going to be monitoring them from the command deck) and realizing that she's been waltzing through Sector 3 without using vital protective gear.
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** Different "ranks" would make sense, because not every emergency is the same. You'd want a different response if the emergency was, "Engines down, don't have the parts to make repairs, but life support is operational," as compared to, "We're under attack!" In one case, nearly any ship could come by in help; in the other, anything other than a combat-ready ship is just going to get itself killed.
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* This may belong in the discussion above about CharacterDerailment, but what possible reason could they have for having Samus have a HeroicBSOD when she sees Ridley? In the manga, at least, it was excusable, since she ''hadn't'' kicked his giant spiky tail yet. But after she's proven herself many, ''[[RecurringBoss many]]'' times to be capable of besting him in combat, why is there a problem now?
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* This may belong in the discussion above about CharacterDerailment, but what What possible reason could they have for having Samus have a HeroicBSOD when she sees Ridley? In the manga, at least, it was excusable, since she ''hadn't'' kicked his giant spiky tail yet. But after she's proven herself many, ''[[RecurringBoss many]]'' times to be capable of besting him in combat, why is there a problem now?
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** Samus answered the distress call, but in the process she had walked right into a classified military operation. Under the circumstances, he had the authority to tell her to get lost or, if he thought she was involved or she refused to leave, to detain her. He didn't tell her to leave because he trusts her and because he knows that she's very capable of handling herself if things go badly, and asked for her help because he had no idea what they were in for. The fact that Samus is also a gun-for-hire for the Federation also means that she's likely used to taking orders from military commanders, even after she left the Federation military to work on her own.
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*** But... that's exactly what happens in the opening to Prime 3.
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*** Other M is one because it follows the military definition of a Joint Mission. Samus isn't a hired gun here, she isn't exploring by herself, and isn't left to do whatever she wants. She is taking orders from a direct commanding officer alongside other troops toward a singular goal, and has to go and do whatever and wherever the CO tells her to. To put simply, a join mission would be "go turn on the power without shooting anyone and then wait for order" while what she did in other games was "turn on the power, by whatever means necessary".
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Despite how flawed Other M is, some of these complaints are attempting to outdo Other M. I'm posting possible explanations.
**** Old debate but I should note that Samus losing her equipment occurred AFTER encountering Meta Ridley as seen on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kckgk3-6EW8&t=130s. She had her missiles & everything. If she's willing to confront Ridley at the beginning of Super Metroid with only the power beam, followed by tailing Ridley in after their fight & following Meta Ridley immediately following losing her equipment, why wouldn't she do anything upon seeing a Meta Ridley who has yet to break free while equipped as she is? The place was about to explode prior to encountering Ridley & she took her sweet time staring at him regardless.
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**** I should note that this underestimates the powers of Phazon. Seriously, it's blatantly obvious that Ridley was somehow recovered, possibly surviving on his own & flew out himself if not Dark Samus, before being pumped full of Phazon until he becomes Omega Ridley. The fact that Omega Ridley still has some of Meta Ridley's old mechanical parts & an old wound from Norion suggests they didn't scrape some of Ridley's cells off the walls & clone him but rather retrieved Meta Ridley's body sufficiently intact. By this point, Samus has been heavily acquainted with Phazon & its healing powers & has seen Dark Samus flat out explode & reform multiple times thanks to Phazon. As heavily flawed as Other M is, this complaint is even more flawed as it fails to recognize the Space Pirate facilities nor the borderline magical substances who brought him back those previous times. Clearly there was no Phazon on Zebes & Ridley was defeated the same day Samus blew up Zebes & any remaining Space Pirates on board. It's like if I called bullcrap on the SA-X surviving the Restricted Lab in Fusion, completely forgetting Adam's explanation & that it could have been another SA-X.
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*** Whenever Samus turns the suit back on, it's put back in the same shape it was in last time it was turned off, including any accumulated dirt, fluids, etc. Just like how you keep the same energy and missiles after cutscenes where the suit disappears.
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*** The usual explanation regarding the canonicity of Prime is that Retro considered them fully canon, but Sakamoto didn't take them into account when writing Other M's story.
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*** Implant it with an internal bomb? There's several ways you can kill something that isn't doing what you want, and you don't even need space tech to do that. Just look at the chopper scene in Ground Zeroes.
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*** Then how is Other M any more of a joint mission than the Pirate Homeworld in Prime 3? Samus does pretty much all the exploration of the Bottle Ship on her own, all the Federation members do are just shoot Ridley a few times and die, or in the case of the Deleter actually try to kill everyone. If simply working with troops doesn't make it a joint mission, then Other M is certainly not one.
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*** The entirety of Prime 3 is not a joint mission, sure. But Samus works together with the Federation to invade the Pirate Homeworld and discover the location of the Leviathan Seed. That seems like a joint mission to me.
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*** When Adam is recounting the creation of the bioweapons found on the Bottle Ship, most importantly the Metroids, to Samus before he detaches Sector 0.
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**''Or'' it could be like those hybrid-electric cars that recharge the battery a little when you hit the brake. Just because they're pumping energy into a system doesn't mean they can't reduce costs by getting some of it back out again.
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** Put some radioactive material under the lava, problem solved. Radioactive decay produces a lot of heat.
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*** Correction. Sakamoto handled the story and gameplay elements, Team Ninja brought the gameplay to life and D-Rockets handled the cutscenes and brought the story to life.
