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* During the Okino Island arc, Haruko couldn't defeat Gouken Yamato, due to his passive ability to [[PowerNullifier cancel any Element]] that came into contact with his body. A trait said to be shared by all of Takeru Yamato's clones. But once again, Himegami succeeded where Haruko couldn't by [[OneHitKill 1-shotting]] Ouken himself, who was possessed by Takeru Yamato.

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* ** During the Okino Island arc, Haruko couldn't defeat Gouken Yamato, due to his passive ability to [[PowerNullifier cancel any Element]] that came into contact with his body. A trait said to be shared by all of Takeru Yamato's clones. But once again, Himegami succeeded where Haruko couldn't by [[OneHitKill 1-shotting]] Ouken himself, who was possessed by Takeru Yamato.

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!! What's up with Aki?

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!! What is Himegeami?

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** Neither. Her body is a metaphysical construct of Element that took on Himegami's likeness. In other words: she's a tangible ghost, since she died ages ago while confined within the barrier atop Amanohara.

!! Takeru's sexism

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** Neither. Her body is a metaphysical corporeal construct of Element that took on Himegami's likeness. In other words: she's a tangible ghost, since she died ages ago while confined within the barrier atop Amanohara.

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** While the first part was eventually proven false, Takeru still developed a fierce predisposition to protect all women, regardless how strong or capable they are of defending themselves. But the manga repeatedly shows that his help usually isn't needed.

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** While the first part was eventually proven false, Takeru still developed a fierce predisposition to protect all women, regardless how strong or capable they are of defending themselves. But the manga repeatedly shows that his help usually isn't needed.needed.
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[[folder: Who's really the "Strongest Maiden" at Tenbi?]]
*According to Himegami, it's Haruko. Except there's been several discrepancies that make the validity of that statement questionable.
**When Haruko, Azuki, and Inaho tried to fight Minerva (chapter 23), they were hopelessly outclassed by her. Yet, Himegami was able to challenge Minerva on her own, which prompted Akaya to note that Himegami's power was equal to Minerva's[[note]]Minerva is (or was) the only known ability user whose power exceeded SS Class. For Akaya's statement to be true, it'd mean Himegami's power also exceedes SS Class[[/note]].
*During the Okino Island arc, Haruko couldn't defeat Gouken Yamato, due to his passive ability to [[PowerNullifier cancel any Element]] that came into contact with his body. A trait said to be shared by all of Takeru Yamato's clones. But once again, Himegami succeeded where Haruko couldn't by [[OneHitKill 1-shotting]] Ouken himself, who was possessed by Takeru Yamato.
**Lastly is the fact that Himegami's power was restrained in both instances, as chapter 102 reveals that the only way she can fight at her full power is by doing so atop Amanohara. At Haruhiko's full power, she was able to carve a trench several hundred meters wide and over a mile long[[note]]done at he end of her duel against Demitra (chapter 22) and against Serin during chapter 75[[/note]]. Whereas Himegami's full power enabled her to envelop ''the entire Tenbi region'' (including Amanohara itself) in a massive spell circle.
*So was Himegami including herself when she said Haruko was the strongest maiden at Tenbi? And if so, in what way given Himegami has repeatedly shown her power far supasses Haruko's (and most others)?
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* I've been wondering this for awhile but from what I've read on Aki's trope entries, in the managa she'e fully aware of the effect she has on boys, but her anime counterpart is utterly clueless. So if she doesn't want that kind of attention, why the hell does she dress in such clothing in the first place?

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* I've been wondering this for awhile but from what I've read on Aki's trope entries, in the managa she'e manga she's fully aware of the effect she has on boys, but her anime counterpart is utterly clueless. So if she doesn't want that kind of attention, why the hell does she dress in such clothing in the first place?
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** Neither. Her body is a metaphysical construct of Element that took on Himegami's likeness. In other words: [[http://www.mangatown.com/manga/maken_ki/c053/7.html she's a tangible ghost]], since [[http://www.mangatown.com/manga/maken_ki/c053/14.html she died ages ago]] while confined within the barrier atop Amanohara.

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** Neither. Her body is a metaphysical construct of Element that took on Himegami's likeness. In other words: [[http://www.mangatown.com/manga/maken_ki/c053/7.html she's a tangible ghost]], ghost, since [[http://www.mangatown.com/manga/maken_ki/c053/14.html she died ages ago]] ago while confined within the barrier atop Amanohara.
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** Because it's what she likes to wear. She's aware that most of the male students are horndogs and knows she can't have it both ways. So she does the best she can to mind what she says around them and makes it clear that she isn't encouraging them to leer at her body.

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** Because it's what she likes to wear. She's aware Revision: finally answered by the flashback in chapter 74. It's because Minori talked her into wearing skimpier swimsuits and revealing clothing back, when they were in highschool. The implication being, that most of the male students are horndogs and knows she can't have it both ways. So she does the best she can to mind what she says around them and makes it clear Aki eventually began dressing that she isn't encouraging them to leer at her body.
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** While the first part was eventually proven false, he still developed a fierce predisposition to protect all woman, regardless how strong or capable they are of defending themselves. But the manga repeatedly shows that his help usually isn't needed.

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** While the first part was eventually proven false, he Takeru still developed a fierce predisposition to protect all woman, women, regardless how strong or capable they are of defending themselves. But the manga repeatedly shows that his help usually isn't needed.
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!! Takeru's sexism?
* So let me get something straight with his line of thinking: after watching his mother [[spoiler: allegedly being beaten to death, by Tesshin, which turned out to be false since she was close to dying anyway]], Takeru develops a chivalrous nature where he believes woman need to be protected. That in itself isn't what bothers me, it's the fact that his mother was one of the ''freaking owners of a dojo''. Wouldn't this basically mean that Takeru has seen his mom fight off challengers/students before and win? If that's the case, why would losing one match equate to him thinking ''all'' girls need to be shielded?
** From Takeru's perspective, it's more a combination that: 1.) it wasn't the fact that she lost match that traumatized him. It was the fact that she lost her life. 2.) He took issue with the fact that his dad didn't lift a finger to help her, even though [[CurbstompBattle she was losing (badly)]] and presumably did nothing about it afterward. Which is why Takeru resents his father.
** So he developed a fierce predisposition to protect any woman, regardless how strong or capable they are of defending themselves. But the manga repeatedly shows that his help usually isn't needed.

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!! Takeru's sexism?
sexism
* So let me get something straight with his line of thinking: this straight: after watching his mother [[spoiler: allegedly being get beaten to death, by Tesshin, which turned out to be false since she was close to dying anyway]], Takeru develops a chivalrous nature where he believes woman women need to be protected.protecting. That in itself isn't what bothers me, it's the fact that his mother was one of the ''freaking owners of a dojo''. Wouldn't this basically mean that Takeru has seen his mom fight off challengers/students before and win? If that's the case, why would losing one match equate to him thinking ''all'' girls need to be shielded?
** From Takeru's perspective, it's **It's more a combination that: 1.) it wasn't the fact that she lost match that traumatized him. It was the fact that she lost her life.beaten to death right in front of him. 2.) He he took issue with the fact that his dad didn't lift a finger to help her, even though [[CurbstompBattle she was losing (badly)]] and presumably did nothing about it afterward. Which is why Takeru resents his father.
** So **While the first part was eventually proven false, he still developed a fierce predisposition to protect any all woman, regardless how strong or capable they are of defending themselves. But the manga repeatedly shows that his help usually isn't needed.
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** Because it's what she likes to wear. She's aware that most of the male students are horndogs and knows she can't have it both ways. So does the best she can to mind what she says around them and makes it clear that she isn't encouraging them to leer at her body.

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** Because it's what she likes to wear. She's aware that most of the male students are horndogs and knows she can't have it both ways. So she does the best she can to mind what she says around them and makes it clear that she isn't encouraging them to leer at her body.
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** Because it's what she likes to wear. She's aware that most of the male students are horndogs and knows she can't have it both ways. So does the best she can to mind what she says around them and makes it clear that she isn't encouraging them to leer at her.

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** Because it's what she likes to wear. She's aware that most of the male students are horndogs and knows she can't have it both ways. So does the best she can to mind what she says around them and makes it clear that she isn't encouraging them to leer at her.
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* I've been wondering this for awhile but from what I've read on Aki's trope entries, her manga counterpart is completely aware of the effect she has on boys but her anime counterpart is absolutely clueless. If she really doesn't want all the attention based on her reactions, why the hell does she dress in such clothing in the first place?

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* I've been wondering this for awhile but from what I've read on Aki's trope entries, her manga counterpart is completely in the managa she'e fully aware of the effect she has on boys boys, but her anime counterpart is absolutely utterly clueless. If So if she really doesn't want all the attention based on her reactions, that kind of attention, why the hell does she dress in such clothing in the first place?
**Because it's what she likes to wear. She's aware that most of the male students are horndogs and knows she can't have it both ways. So does the best she can to mind what she says around them and makes it clear that she isn't encouraging them to leer at her.
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** Neither. Her body is a metaphysical construct of Element that took on Himegami's likeness. In other words: [[http://www.mangatown.com/manga/maken_ki/c053/9.html she's a tangible]] [[http://www.mangatown.com/manga/maken_ki/c053/14.html ghost]], since she died ages ago while confined within the barrier atop Amanohara.

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** Neither. Her body is a metaphysical construct of Element that took on Himegami's likeness. In other words: [[http://www.mangatown.com/manga/maken_ki/c053/9.com/manga/maken_ki/c053/7.html she's a tangible]] tangible ghost]], since [[http://www.mangatown.com/manga/maken_ki/c053/14.html ghost]], since she died ages ago ago]] while confined within the barrier atop Amanohara.
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** Neither. Her body is a metaphysical construct of Element that took on Himegami's likeness. In other words: [[http://www.mangatown.com/manga/maken_ki/c054/9.html she's a tangible ghost]], since she died ages ago while confined within the barrier atop Amanohara.

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** Neither. Her body is a metaphysical construct of Element that took on Himegami's likeness. In other words: [[http://www.mangatown.com/manga/maken_ki/c054/9.com/manga/maken_ki/c053/9.html she's a tangible tangible]] [[http://www.mangatown.com/manga/maken_ki/c053/14.html ghost]], since she died ages ago while confined within the barrier atop Amanohara.
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**Neither. Her body is a metaphysical construct of Element that took on Himegami's likeness. In other words: [[http://www.mangatown.com/manga/maken_ki/c054/9.html she's a tangible ghost]], since she died ages ago while confined within the barrier atop Amanohara.

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* So let me get something straight with his line of thinking. After watching his mother [[spoiler:die by the hands of Kesshin, which turned out to be false since she was close to dying anyway]], Takeru develops a chivalrous nature where he believes woman need to be protected. That in itself isn't what bothers me, it's the fact that his mother was one of the ''freaking owners of a dojo''. Wouldn't this basically mean that Takeru has seen his mom fight off challengers/students before and win? If that's the case, why would losing one match equate to him thinking ''all'' girls need to be shielded?

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* So let me get something straight with his line of thinking. After thinking: after watching his mother [[spoiler:die [[spoiler: allegedly being beaten to death, by the hands of Kesshin, Tesshin, which turned out to be false since she was close to dying anyway]], Takeru develops a chivalrous nature where he believes woman need to be protected. That in itself isn't what bothers me, it's the fact that his mother was one of the ''freaking owners of a dojo''. Wouldn't this basically mean that Takeru has seen his mom fight off challengers/students before and win? If that's the case, why would losing one match equate to him thinking ''all'' girls need to be shielded?shielded?
**From Takeru's perspective, it's more a combination that: 1.) it wasn't the fact that she lost match that traumatized him. It was the fact that she lost her life. 2.) He took issue with the fact that his dad didn't lift a finger to help her, even though [[CurbstompBattle she was losing (badly)]] and presumably did nothing about it afterward. Which is why Takeru resents his father.
**So he developed a fierce predisposition to protect any woman, regardless how strong or capable they are of defending themselves. But the manga repeatedly shows that his help usually isn't needed.
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* So let me get something straight with his line of thinking. After watching his mother [[spoiler:die by the hands of Kesshin, which turned out to be false since she was close to dying anyway]], Takeru develops a chivalrious nature where he believes woman need to be protected. That in itself isn't what bothers me, it's the fact that his mother was one of the ''freaking owners of a dojo''. Wouldn't this basically mean that Takeru has seen his mom fight off challengers/students before and win? If that's the case, why would losing one match and equate to him believing that his mother needs to be protected?

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* So let me get something straight with his line of thinking. After watching his mother [[spoiler:die by the hands of Kesshin, which turned out to be false since she was close to dying anyway]], Takeru develops a chivalrious chivalrous nature where he believes woman need to be protected. That in itself isn't what bothers me, it's the fact that his mother was one of the ''freaking owners of a dojo''. Wouldn't this basically mean that Takeru has seen his mom fight off challengers/students before and win? If that's the case, why would losing one match and equate to him believing that his mother needs thinking ''all'' girls need to be protected?shielded?
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!! What's up with Aki?
* I've been wondering this for awhile but from what I've read on Aki's trope entries, her manga counterpart is completely aware of the effect she has on boys but her anime counterpart is absolutely clueless. If she really doesn't want all the attention based on her reactions, why the hell does she dress in such clothing in the first place?

!! What is Himegeami?
* Is she supposed to be a spirit that dwells in a human body? Or is she some sort of physical projection of the spirit that dwells on that mountain?

!! Takeru's sexism?
* So let me get something straight with his line of thinking. After watching his mother [[spoiler:die by the hands of Kesshin, which turned out to be false since she was close to dying anyway]], Takeru develops a chivalrious nature where he believes woman need to be protected. That in itself isn't what bothers me, it's the fact that his mother was one of the ''freaking owners of a dojo''. Wouldn't this basically mean that Takeru has seen his mom fight off challengers/students before and win? If that's the case, why would losing one match and equate to him believing that his mother needs to be protected?

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