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** Actually, he his caravan was even there when Max first met Chloe at the parking lot, when Warren ended up with a black eye.
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** Given that the past moments Max can photo-jump into have a distinctive "border" around them, it seems that she's almost literally jumping "into" the picture of the moment itself, and destroying the photo once she's "inside" the moment has no effect other than whatever ripples it might have on the timeline created. The photo jump is one way; Max only gets out of it by changing something or waiting long enough for the moment to pass and allowing time to proceed unhindered. She didn't create a paradox when she destroyed her Everyday Heroes photo; she just made a timeline that didn't work out for her.
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** The whole issue still doesn't make much sense. She destroys in the past the very same photo she's using in the present to travel to that moment. This creates a paradox, so if anything, Max should have been trapped in some sort of permanent time loop.
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** In addition to the other reasons, maybe she [[spoiler: realized subconsciously that her feelings for Chloe were more than friendly, and wasn't able to handle that yet.]] And then after too much time went by she would have felt too awkward to break the silence.
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*** This doesn't even make sense though. Warren even says [[spoiler: "Going back in time is what caused the storm."]] So if that's the case, [[spoiler: now that Max has gone back to a point before where she used her time travel powers, shouldn't she be able to save Chloe without rewinding or causing the storm? She could have even run out of the bathroom and stopped Chloe before Nathan came in.]]
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*** This doesn't even make sense though. Warren even says [[spoiler: "Going back in time is what caused the storm."]] So if that's the case, [[spoiler: now that Max has gone back to a point before where she used her time travel powers, shouldn't she be able to save Chloe without rewinding or causing the storm? She could have even run out of the bathroom and stopped Chloe before Nathan came in.]]
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** It's made pretty clear in the game that [[spoiler: Jefferson doesn't rape the girls he abducts, but the degradation and humiliation he subjects them to is enough to traumatize them.]]
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*** This doesn't even make sense though. Warren even says [[spoiler: "Going back in time is what caused the storm."]] So if that's the case, [[spoiler: now that Max has gone back to a point before where she used her time travel powers, shouldn't she be able to save Chloe without rewinding or causing the storm? She could have even run out of the bathroom and stopped Chloe before Nathan came in.]]
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* Why does warning Victoria about Jefferson being a murderer get her killed, but not warning her doesn't? [[ViolationOfCommonSense Shouldn't that be the other way around]]?
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* Why does warning Victoria about Jefferson being a murderer get her killed, but not warning her doesn't? [[ViolationOfCommonSense Shouldn't that be the other way around]]?around]]?
** Max can't warn Victoria about Jefferson, since she doesn't know about his involvement at that point. She can warn Victoria about ''Nathan'', which causes Victoria (if she believes Max) to go to the nearest non-student she trusts for help: Mr. Jefferson. If she's not warned, or doesn't believe Max, she never goes to him and he doesn't need to deal with her knowing too much.
** Max can't warn Victoria about Jefferson, since she doesn't know about his involvement at that point. She can warn Victoria about ''Nathan'', which causes Victoria (if she believes Max) to go to the nearest non-student she trusts for help: Mr. Jefferson. If she's not warned, or doesn't believe Max, she never goes to him and he doesn't need to deal with her knowing too much.
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*** I was under the impression that she just [[spoiler: deleted the text after sending it so it wouldn't be on her phone to avoid her past self seeing it]].
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* Why does warning Victoria about Jefferson being a murderer get her killed, but not warning her doesn't? [[ViolationOfCommonSense Shouldn't that be Shouldn't that be the other way around]]?
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** For all we know, it's simply impossible for Max to generate a timeline in which she, herself, dies.
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*Why does warning Victoria about Jefferson being a murderer get her killed, but not warning her doesn't? [[ViolationOfCommonSense Shouldn't that be Shouldn't that be the other way around]]?
*Why does warning Victoria about Jefferson being a murderer get her killed, but not warning her doesn't? [[ViolationOfCommonSense Shouldn't that be Shouldn't that be the other way around]]?
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*** Chloe used to attend Blackwell Academy before being expelled, [[spoiler: Before the Storm shows that Chloe attended 2+ years before LiS, as did Victoria, Rachel, Nathan and Dana, as of episode one.]], even though she’s only in the year above Max. It’s been suggested elsewhere it’s a normal 4 year high school but with a two year senior programme. And
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*** Chloe used to attend Blackwell Academy before being expelled, [[spoiler: Before the Storm shows that Chloe attended 2+ years before LiS, [=LiS=], as did Victoria, Rachel, Nathan and Dana, as of episode one.]], even though she’s only in the year above Max. It’s been suggested elsewhere it’s a normal 4 year high school but with a two year senior programme. And
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** [[spoiler: Nathan temporarily mistook Max for Rachel because of the clothes, and he was happy to see her because, well, he didn't want Rachel to die in the first place. It was an accident. He feels bad. That's pretty much it.]]
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** The Prescotts have apparently been involved in the business of selling/constructing bomb shelters at some point. His relationship with Nathan may have included contact with Nathan's father, who he may have been able to manipulate into building the bunker for other reasons. If the Prescott bomb shelter business came from the family being doomsday preppers, it might not have taken much work - then he'd just need to convince them to let him use the empty space as a studio (without telling them what he was photographing) while it wasn't yet needed as a shelter.
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** Frank may have just assumed [[spoiler:that his presence wouldn't be welcomed by Joyce, David, and/or others there, so he decided himself to pay his respects from a distance to avoid causing a scene. As to why he was there, either someone (Max or a customer of his, perhaps, since more than one was a student at Blackwell, where she was shot) told him or he just read about it in the obituaries.]]
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** Since [[spoiler:her death was caused by an overdose, it could have been vomit.]]
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** Also, aside from the principal's office, there's nowhere they'd need gloves - Max's fingerprints are all over the place anyway since she goes to class there, and though Chloe's not a student she has friends and a step father who go to or work at the school (and is comfortable showing up there and going into the buildings). The only way masks would have mattered is if someone got a good look at them in person (David's surveillance plans either weren't approved or only got approved a day or two earlier, so cameras are unlikely to be an issue), which they thought they'd be able to avoid. Peeling out of the parking lot in a fairly distinctive truck was probably a bigger mistake.
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** Diners generally frown on people moving around wherever they want after being seated, especially if it's one person moving to occupy a table with multiple seats. That was probably at the tail end of the breakfast rush, which would make them even more reluctant to let him move around.
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*** In the bonus episode of Before the Storm, [[spoiler:she doesn't even tell Chloe she's leaving until a few days beforehand, if then. Chloe knew already, but it demonstrates that not knowing how to handle difficult conversations isn't exactly new for Max]].
** The lack of contact may have to do with William's death, especially considering that [[spoiler:the alternate timeline Max, while she was still distant, seems to have sent Chloe at least few more letters and what not]]. Max was grieving herself, since she was close to the Price family, and on top of that didn't know how to be there for Chloe when she couldn't actually be there. After a while with little to no contact, she would have started to feel guilty about it and might have continued to avoid contact because she didn't know how to address ''that.'' As mentioned, anxiety is a significant part of her character.
** The lack of contact may have to do with William's death, especially considering that [[spoiler:the alternate timeline Max, while she was still distant, seems to have sent Chloe at least few more letters and what not]]. Max was grieving herself, since she was close to the Price family, and on top of that didn't know how to be there for Chloe when she couldn't actually be there. After a while with little to no contact, she would have started to feel guilty about it and might have continued to avoid contact because she didn't know how to address ''that.'' As mentioned, anxiety is a significant part of her character.
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** It's possible that the initial bit of time travel actually works like her photo thing. The photos act as a focus for distant or otherwise unclear memories, but she may be able to travel to moments she remembers clearly without them. It could be that she just isn't able to do it at will because she's still [[HowDoIShotWeb kind of fumbling along]] with her powers and doesn't actually understand how to use them.
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** Someone up the page suggested that David wound up as a security guard ''because'' the best friend of his stepdaughter vanished there -- him never knowing Chloe and never trying to awkwardly bond with her would mean he feels no urge to protect the students at Blackwell, and so enters whatever field is most convenient.
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** I guess she would find herself dead in the present. In which case she's lucky that didn't happen when she tried that stunt in the game.
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** I guess she would find herself dead in the present. In which case she's lucky that didn't happen when she tried that stunt in the game.game.
** For all we know, it's simply impossible for Max to generate a timeline in which she, herself, dies.
** For all we know, it's simply impossible for Max to generate a timeline in which she, herself, dies.
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** It's possible that Max's powers are some sort of gift from the spirit of Rachel. In episode 5, Chloe describes the storm as "Rachel's Revenge" on Arcadia Bay, presumably for ruining her life and eventually taking away Chloe's life. Rachel – in the form of the spirit doe – somehow gives Max her powers as a way to (1) save Chloe from getting shot by Nathan, and (2) get both Max and Chloe to safety in the lighthouse while she unleashes her wraith on the town hates, hence why she kept guiding Max towards the lighthouse in the visions.
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* Max can use photos to travel to distant past for a short period and the changes she makes can create a timeline. In the new timeline, her previous mind takes control of her new self in a date next to the present time of the previous timeline. However, considering all this, what would happen if she altered the past and it generated a timeline in which she died at some point?
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* Max can use photos to travel to distant past for a short period and the changes she makes can create a timeline. In the new timeline, her previous mind takes control of her new self in a date next to the present time of the previous timeline. However, considering all this, what would happen if she altered the past and it generated a timeline in which she died at some point?point?
** I guess she would find herself dead in the present. In which case she's lucky that didn't happen when she tried that stunt in the game.
** I guess she would find herself dead in the present. In which case she's lucky that didn't happen when she tried that stunt in the game.
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* Max can use photos to travel to distant past for a short period and the changes she makes can create a timeline. In the new timeline, her previous mind takes control of her new self in a date next to the present time of the previous timeline. However, considering all this, what would happen if she altered the past and it generated a timeline in which she's she died at some point?
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* Max can use photos to travel to distant past for a short period and the changes she makes there alters the timeline while her mind takes control of new version of herself in the new timeline during the present time. However, considering all this, what would happen if she altered the past and it generated a timeline in which she's dead in the present time?
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* Max can use photos to travel to distant past for a short period and the changes she makes there alters can create a timeline. In the timeline while new timeline, her previous mind takes control of her new version of herself self in the new timeline during a date next to the present time. time of the previous timeline. However, considering all this, what would happen if she altered the past and it generated a timeline in which she's dead in the present time?died at some point?
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** Max can use photos to travel to distant past for a short period and the changes she makes there alters the timeline while her mind takes control of new version of herself in the new timeline during the present time. However, considering all this, what would happen if she altered the past and it generated a timeline in which she's dead in the present time?
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** I think what the OP is asking is why Max didn't call Madsen during the time skip, when she was on "autopilot". My guess is Max simply misjudged what she would do. Autopilot!Max didn't have any of Real!Max's knowledge before she took the Everyday Heroes photo, and she simply proceeded as normal once Real!Max was no longer in control of her. So the same events happened all over again, except that Jefferson burned her diary, meaning Max couldn't pull the same trick twice.
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** I think what the OP is asking is why Max didn't call Madsen during the time skip, when she was on "autopilot". My guess is Max simply misjudged what she would do. Autopilot!Max didn't have any of Real!Max's knowledge before she took the Everyday Heroes photo, and she simply proceeded as normal once Real!Max was no longer in control of her. So the same events happened all over again, except that Jefferson burned her diary, meaning Max couldn't pull the same trick twice.twice.
** Max can use photos to travel to distant past for a short period and the changes she makes there alters the timeline while her mind takes control of new version of herself in the new timeline during the present time. However, considering all this, what would happen if she altered the past and it generated a timeline in which she's dead in the present time?
** Max can use photos to travel to distant past for a short period and the changes she makes there alters the timeline while her mind takes control of new version of herself in the new timeline during the present time. However, considering all this, what would happen if she altered the past and it generated a timeline in which she's dead in the present time?
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** Max has to go forward to go back. When she destroyed the contest entry selfie, Jefferson burns the diary, so Max can't use the second selfie in class to go back and warn Madsen because that selfie is in the diary.
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** Max has to go forward to go back. When she destroyed the contest entry selfie, Jefferson burns the diary, so Max can't use the second selfie in class to go back and warn Madsen because that selfie is in the diary.diary.
** I think what the OP is asking is why Max didn't call Madsen during the time skip, when she was on "autopilot". My guess is Max simply misjudged what she would do. Autopilot!Max didn't have any of Real!Max's knowledge before she took the Everyday Heroes photo, and she simply proceeded as normal once Real!Max was no longer in control of her. So the same events happened all over again, except that Jefferson burned her diary, meaning Max couldn't pull the same trick twice.
** I think what the OP is asking is why Max didn't call Madsen during the time skip, when she was on "autopilot". My guess is Max simply misjudged what she would do. Autopilot!Max didn't have any of Real!Max's knowledge before she took the Everyday Heroes photo, and she simply proceeded as normal once Real!Max was no longer in control of her. So the same events happened all over again, except that Jefferson burned her diary, meaning Max couldn't pull the same trick twice.
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* In a game about time-manipulation and the ability to change events through time travel, what the fuck is up with Chloe being MarkedForDeath? If you can't fight fate, what's the point of giving Max the powers in the first place?
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* In a game about time-manipulation and the ability to change events through time travel, what the fuck is up with Chloe being MarkedForDeath? MarkedToDie? If you can't fight fate, what's the point of giving Max the powers in the first place?
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** Max has to go forward to go back. When she destroyed the contest entry selfie, Jefferson burns the diary, so Max can't use the second selfie in class to go back and warn Madsen because that selfie is in the diary.
* How could Max have that vision at the beginning with the storm if [[spoiler:the storm was really caused by her powers and the first time she used them was after that vision]]?
* How could Max have that vision at the beginning with the storm if [[spoiler:the storm was really caused by her powers and the first time she used them was after that vision]]?
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* How could Max have that vision at the beginning with the storm if [[spoiler:the storm was really caused by her powers and the first time she used them was after that vision]]?
