History Headscratchers / LegendoftheSeeker

* It just now occured to me that Darken Rahl's entire scheme from "Walter" was completely redundant- If he had Walter in his custody for 6 monthes, then why the hell did he wait until that point to execute his whole plan for ressurection? The way the show portrays it, it's as if he's waited until: A) He got his hands on the scroll Richard and co. needed (which he didn't even know existed until the previous episode) and B) For Walter to escape. Of course, this makes no sense, as logically, Rahl would have all the means to ressurect himself (Mord-Sith, Sisters of the Dark) long before this episode. Maybe he had to wait until Kahlan confessed a sister? Since normally ressurecting himself would go against the Keeper's agenda, so the sisters probably wouldn't agree to it so readily, so he had to wait until he had a bargaining chip to convince the Seeker and co. to help him do it? Still, counting on a sister to be confessed ''and'' to have the means to force Richard's hand is one hell of a XanatosRoulette...

*** Wizard's First Rule, p. 565, Kahlan is distraught after Confessing Richard (he'd been disguised by a spell as [[BigBad Darken Rahl]] and poised to kill herself:

-->So according to this, her power ''is'' released at death.

'''Richard''': "Don't do that," he whispered.
'''Kahlan''' "I must. I love you." Kahlan moaned in misery. "I have touched you with my power. I would rather die than be your mistress. It is the only way to release you."
So according to this, her power ''is'' released at death.

--> '''Richard''': "Don't do that," he whispered.
--> '''Kahlan''' "I must. I love you." Kahlan moaned in misery. "I have touched you with my power. I would rather die than be your mistress. It is the only way to release you."

** Zedd seems to only know a few tricks in the series and is waaay too fond of using Wizard's Fire, which is also a lame version of itself. Wizard's fire is supposed to be practically living, liquid fire that clings to everything it touches and cannot be extinguished unless the original caster cuts it off...and even then that's not a guarantee. Wizard's fire also draws a nice amount of attention. They don't ''want'' to be found, and the Zedd is supposed to favor much more devious magic than just "throw a fireball at it".
** Chase...if the Chase in the books saw a guy holding his daughter hostage with a knife to her throat, the situation would be resolved within a moment. He'd give a subtle signal to his daughter, who'd acknowledge it subtley...and the D'Haran soldier would've found a knife through his eyeball before he suspected communication. Y'know, if Chase's wife hadn't already dispatched him before her hubby got home.

* Ok...what was with the VerySpecialEpisode about drugs? I'm talking about "Elixir" if you're wondering. There are so many many other social messages contained within the pages of the books, why did you need to hit that one so early? The thought doesn't show up until ''late'' in the third book, and that's with a bit of an addiction to the invisibility cloak of the Mriswith, which is specifically designed to be addicting. In the same episode, you introduce the Quillan...probably one of the darkest, most disgusting pieces of magic in the entire series...as a simple sort of magic-sucker. Do you know how one takes the magic away from a Wizard? It's not a simple matter of killing him with that thing near, nor any sort of incantation. No...you need to skin him alive...slowly. What does a Rada'Han do? It enables the one who put it on you/made you put it on to suppress your magic and give you pain...sometimes enough to kill you and is almost impossible to get off on your own, although Zedd figures out how in the books. With these two truly horrendous things introduced in this episode...the bad part is the drugs? Puh-leaze

*** I was also under the impression that death of the confessor released the spell on the confessed I'm sure there was a musing on this when the prevoisly confessed guy she had turned into a wolf turned up. Plus it doesn't actually destroy the person, just adds an overriding love of the confessor, the guy who hid his confessor daughter should show that. The thig that bugs me about Kahlan is thats she is only supposed to call the con dar in defence of richar, but in the show i'm sure she's done it when she was just angry.

more to come as others add and I finish watching what's out of the show.

* As mentioned in the SwordOfTruth's JustBugsMe page, the Sword itself has received a power-down for the purposes of showing cool sword fights. Whenever I, a big fan of the books, although I readily admit that ''Pillars Of Creation'' needs to [[KillItWithFire DIAF]] and Goodkind has a stick up his ass about it not being a "Fantasy" series, see scenes such as the slicing of crossbow bolts from midair, say "Now ''that'' is the Sword of Truth!"

* Ok...what was with the VerySpecialEpisode about drugs? I'm talking about ''Elixir'' if you're wondering. There are so many many other social messages contained within the pages of the books, why did you need to hit that one so early? The thought doesn't show up until ''late'' in the third book, and that's with a bit of an addiction to the invisibility cloak of the Mriswith, which is specifically designed to be addicting. In the same episode, you introduce the Quillan...probably one of the darkest, most disgusting pieces of magic in the entire series...as a simple sort of magic-sucker. Do you know how one takes the magic away from a Wizard? It's not a simple matter of killing him with that thing near, nor any sort of incantation. No...you need to skin him alive...slowly. What does a Rada'Han do? It enables the one who put it on you/made you put it on to suppress your magic and give you pain...sometimes enough to kill you and is almost impossible to get off on your own, although Zedd figures out how in the books. With these two truly horrendous things introduced in this episode...the bad part is the drugs? Puh-leaze

** The Objectivist stuff doesn't show up until the fifth or sixth book in the series. ''LegendOfTheSeeker'' is based on the first book, which was written, you know, ''before'' Goodkind got high on Ayn Rand.

* I admit that I have not seen every episode, but why can't Kahlan have sex with Richard without Confessing him? Whenever she confesses someone, she simply stares at them with super-dilated eyes. Is she worried that she'll lose control over her powers during the throes of passion, and Richard can't get aroused if she's wearing a blindfold? Can she also confess people with her vagina, and if so does so involuntarily? Is oral sex out? What about handjobs?

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* Now, I could overlook the rest of Nicci's issues as minor, but what really bugged me was the ending. Nicci is killed and brought back to life, again, and then captured by Darken Rahl. It was already seen in "Princess" that she retains her Han after coming BackFromTheDead, even when coming into a different body. Therefore, she must have still had Richard's Han when was brought back, along with all the other sorceresses she'd killed and stolen Han from. She should have been able to crush Rahl and his Mord'Sith easily after they'd revived her, but she didn't even resist! Plus, Darken Rahl, CompleteMonster that he is, [[KarmaHoudini is still alive at the end!]] A much better ending would have been for Rahl to think he'd won, but then for Nicci to just blast the sonuvabitch away like he deserves. Of course, since it cut off there, that might have been what happened, but we didn't see it . . .

* As mentioned in the SwordOfTruth's JustBugsMe page, the Sword itself has received a power-down for the purposes of showing [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotAwesome cool sword fights.]] Whenever I, a big fan of the books, although I readily admit that ''Pillars Of Creation'' needs to [[KillItWithFire DIAF]] and Goodkind has a stick up his ass about it not being a "Fantasy" series, see scenes such as the slicing of crossbow bolts from midair, say "Now ''that'' is the Sword of Truth!"

8, Denna: Richard clearly and graphically stabs Denna through the stomach, killing her. Just because [[IGotBetter it didn't stick]] doesn't matter.\\

* In "Ressurection" if the Mord-sith's magic doesn't work when the Lord Rahl is dead how come the breath of life still works? Also in the books I'm sure they could only ressurect somebody killed with the Agiel which makes sense, but they seem to be able to bring back anyone here. And if the Keeper gets pissy about the magic to bring the dead back in that ep, why hasn't he been pissy about the mord-sith breath of life ability?

* Why is Panis Rahl still alive? Also why was the Boundary supposedly up for centuries instead of around 20-30 years? (Zedd created it after all using a spell he found in the Wizard's Keep) And why is Darken Rahl Richard's BROTHER instead of his father? It made no sense!
** This was probably the result of the casting. It wouldn't make sense to make Richard to make it appear as if he's Darken's kid. Craig Parker (Rahl) is only 12 years older than Craig Horner (Richard).

* Why is Panis Rahl still alive? Also why was the Boundary supposedly up for centuries instead of around 20-30 years? (Zedd created it after all using a spell he found in the Wizard's Keep)

** Let's see, the effect of a Confessor's power goes away after her death? Um...[[NoJustNo no]]. The entire point is that it is absolute and eternal and it utterly destroys the personality of the one touched. Why say that? Just so that Kahlan can have had some childhood trauma of her hands being bound? Seriously.

* Why did Sam Raimi feel the need to power everyone down so much? If you're curious as to what I mean, apart from the obvious sword-that-cuts-through-anything part.
** Let's see, the effect of a Confessor's power goes away after her death? Um...[[NoJustNo no]]. The entire point is that it is absolute and eternal and it utterly destroys the personality of the one touched. Why say that? Just so that Kahlan can have had some childhood trauma of her hands being bound? Seriously.
** Zedd seems to only know a few tricks in the series and is waaay too fond of using Wizard's Fire, which is also a lame version of itself. Wizard's fire is supposed to be practically living, liquid fire that clings to everything it touches and cannot be extinguished unless the original caster cuts it off...and even then that's not a guarantee. Wizard's fire also draws a nice amount of attention. They don't ''want'' to be found, and the Zedd is supposed to favor much more devious magic than just "throw a fireball at it".
** Chase...if the Chase in the books saw a guy holding his daughter hostage with a knife to her throat, the situation would be resolved within a moment. He'd give a subtle signal to his daughter, who'd acknowledge it subtley...and the D'Haran soldier would've found a knife through his eyeball before he suspected communication. Y'know, if Chase's wife hadn't already dispatched him before her hubby got home.
** I understand trying to reduce Richard's MarySue-ness from the books, since that is one of the things that annoys most of the complainers, but does he have to carry the IdiotBall 95% of the time? Ooh, I've been caught in a rabbit trap and my sword fell out of it's scabbard. Um...knife? You're an f*ing woods guide, pull out your knife and cut yourself down. Oh, hey, look Kahlan kicked your sword up to you...reach up and cut yourself down...please...it'll take less time and be less dangerous than trying to swordfight upside down while a targeting-challenged wizard in a stressful situation tries to burn you down.
* Ok...what was with the VerySpecialEpisode about drugs? I'm talking about ''Elixir'' if you're wondering. There are so many many other social messages contained within the pages of the books, why did you need to hit that one so early? The thought doesn't show up until ''late'' in the third book, and that's with a bit of an addiction to the invisibility cloak of the Mriswith, which is specifically designed to be addicting. In the same episode, you introduce the Quillan...probably one of the darkest, most disgusting pieces of magic in the entire series...as a simple sort of magic-sucker. Do you know how one takes the magic away from a Wizard? It's not a simple matter of killing him with that thing near, nor any sort of incantation. No...you need to skin him alive...slowly. What does a Rada'Han do? It enables the one who put it on you/made you put it on to suppress your magic and give you pain...sometimes enough to kill you and is almost impossible to get off on your own, although Zedd figures out how in the books. With these two truly horrendous things introduced in this episode...the bad part is the drugs? Puh-leaze
* AdrenalineTime and BulletTime are all well and good, but there is such a thing as overuse of it. There are times that I want to just punch Sam Raimi (whom I do like) in the face and say, "PICK A F*ING SPEED."

*** I was also under the impression that death of the confessor released the spell on the confessed I'm sure there was a musing on this when the prevoisly confessed guy she had turned into a wolf turned up. Plus it doesn't actually destroy the person, just adds an overriding love of the confessor, the guy who hid his confessor daughter should show that. The thig that bugs me about Kahlan is thats she is only supposed to call the con dar in defence of richar, but in the show i'm sure she's done it when she was just angry.

* So, what's with Richard? He's a MemeticBadass in the books, and is afflicted with ThouShaltNotKill syndrome here. In fact, it seems they've changed the political bias pretty much completely, making it an {{Anvilicious}} liberal story rather than the conservative one presented in the books. I can get making things more family-friendly since they're airing it on WGN and not HBO (though that's a WallBanger in and of itself), but complete and utter emasculation of all the main characters ''and'' the story itself is not the way to go here.

*** If you're talking about {{Mooks}}, it doesn't count. But when the ''main'' VillainOfTheWeek is just allowed to escape alive, considering how slowly he would have died had Terry Goodkind been in charge, it's a WallBanger.

** The Objectivist stuff doesn't show up until the fifth or sixth book in the series. ''LegendOfTheSeeker'' is based on the first book, which was written, you know, ''before'' Goodkind got high on Ayn Rand.
*** Richard's still far more willing to ShootTheDog in the first book than he is in the first season of the TV series. And Kahlan even moreso.
* In the episode "Revenant" the dead wizard Amfortas muses how odd it was that Viviane death did not release Kieran from loving her. While it probably would've lengthened the episode a bit too much, it does irk me that no one mentioned the obvious reason. Kieran already loved her intensely and the confessing that happened was a redundant thing. If memory serves, something similar happens in the books with Richard. Also, why on Earth did Amfortas even bother with binding Kieran? I mean will Kieran stay as a vengeful ghost, or pass on and be with a loved one... Gee though choice.

*** Can you elaborate a bit on this? From what I've seen it's quite obvious Kieran and Viviane had strong feeling for each other even before magic entered the equation. Isn't it the same thing with Richard and Kahlan? I only read a tvtrope article on the latter book couple, so apologies if I got anything wrong.

* In "Ressurection" if the Mord-sith's magic doesn't work when the Lord Rahl is dead how come the breath of life still works? Also in the books I'm sure they could only ressurect somebody killed with the Agiel which makes sense, but they seem to be able to bring back anyone here. And if the Keeper gets pissy about the magic to bring the dead back in that ep, why hasn't he been pissy about the mord-sith breath of life ability?

** She didn't... Nicci faked it so Kahlan would try to confess her... That was kind of the point of half the episode.

** If you look carefully, you'll see a Radahan around Nicci's neck when she stands up and stares at Rahl... Not that I disagree with the complaint in general. Just saying...

* Shouldn't Darken Rahl be dead in the alternate reality in which Cara never became a Mord-Sith? Being that he was the first Baneling, I doubt Richard would have been fine with him killing someone every day just to keep him around. Why bother keeping him around at all? Because it would show your followers, who had to serve under the evil tyrant for a generation, that you were merciful? The bastard was evil! Man this show has a lot of plot holes.

I started this page so that IJBM's from the TV series can be listed separately from the ''SwordOfTruth'' ones. Be warned, spoilers ahead.