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** I'm thinking that The Bride had to be between 5 and 9 months, far enough to be showing but not so far that she couldn't participate in a wedding. Also, Vernita had to be pregnant at the time, The girls are too close in age. My guess is that she was about 2-3 months. If Vernita was 3 months and The Bride was about 7 months (and more than likely gave birth prematurely due to the beating) that would put the age difference between B.B and Nikki at about 6 months.
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** I'm thinking that The Bride had to be between 5 and 9 months, far enough to be showing but not so far that she couldn't participate in a wedding. Also, Vernita had to be pregnant at the time, The girls are too close in age. My guess is that she was about 2-3 months. If Vernita was 3 months and The Bride was about 7 months (and more than likely gave birth prematurely due to the beating) that would put the age difference between B.B and Nikki at about 6 months.months.
*How did Vernita miss shooting the Bride? Apparently firearms aren't one of her specialties.
*How did Vernita miss shooting the Bride? Apparently firearms aren't one of her specialties.
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* What was with the scene in the classroom after they reveal The Bride's name?
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** For that matter, the Bride is 9 months pregnant or damn near when she gets shot. Vernita *may* have been pregnant during the beatdown, but its not likely considering she's, you know, delivering beatdowns willy-nilly. Assuming she's not pregnant at the time, Vernita would have had to quit the DIVAS the next DAY, meet a dude, get married/pregnant in order to have a kid in the same year as the Bride.
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** For that matter, the Bride is 9 months pregnant or damn near when she gets shot. Vernita *may* have been pregnant during the beatdown, but its not likely considering she's, you know, delivering beatdowns willy-nilly. Assuming she's not pregnant at the time, Vernita would have had to quit the DIVAS the next DAY, meet a dude, get married/pregnant in order to have a kid in the same year as the Bride.Bride.
** I'm thinking that The Bride had to be between 5 and 9 months, far enough to be showing but not so far that she couldn't participate in a wedding. Also, Vernita had to be pregnant at the time, The girls are too close in age. My guess is that she was about 2-3 months. If Vernita was 3 months and The Bride was about 7 months (and more than likely gave birth prematurely due to the beating) that would put the age difference between B.B and Nikki at about 6 months.
** I'm thinking that The Bride had to be between 5 and 9 months, far enough to be showing but not so far that she couldn't participate in a wedding. Also, Vernita had to be pregnant at the time, The girls are too close in age. My guess is that she was about 2-3 months. If Vernita was 3 months and The Bride was about 7 months (and more than likely gave birth prematurely due to the beating) that would put the age difference between B.B and Nikki at about 6 months.
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** Not sure what you mean by "realistic" when it comes to family life. There really wasn't a lot of time devoted to Vernita's chapter. I think what is "realistic" about this film are the character reactions and interactions, certainly not the dialogue (it's Tarantino of course!). I mean, I think it makes sense that a "4-year old" would react the way Nikki did, quietly confused about what she saw.
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* It really bothers me that Vernita Green's daughter at the beginning of Vol. 1 is supposed to be four years old, and yet she's very articulate, carries around a big backpack, and has her own dog. She doesn't even look 4 years old, or 5 for that matter. It's just a really small detail that bugs me a lot, since Vernita's family life is supposed to be realistic in comparison to the Bride's fight scenes.
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* It really bothers me that Vernita Green's daughter at the beginning of Vol. 1 is supposed to be four years old, and yet she's very articulate, carries around a big backpack, and has her own dog. She doesn't even look 4 years old, or 5 for that matter. It's just a really small detail that bugs me a lot, since Vernita's family life is supposed to be realistic in comparison to the Bride's fight scenes.scenes.
**For that matter, the Bride is 9 months pregnant or damn near when she gets shot. Vernita *may* have been pregnant during the beatdown, but its not likely considering she's, you know, delivering beatdowns willy-nilly. Assuming she's not pregnant at the time, Vernita would have had to quit the DIVAS the next DAY, meet a dude, get married/pregnant in order to have a kid in the same year as the Bride.
**For that matter, the Bride is 9 months pregnant or damn near when she gets shot. Vernita *may* have been pregnant during the beatdown, but its not likely considering she's, you know, delivering beatdowns willy-nilly. Assuming she's not pregnant at the time, Vernita would have had to quit the DIVAS the next DAY, meet a dude, get married/pregnant in order to have a kid in the same year as the Bride.
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*** I can't remember exactly where I read it, but apparently Tarantino said her name was deliberately omitted in Vol.1. so the audience wouldn't sympathize/identify with her just yet (cause Vol.1. was more focused on action and violence; the story didn't really fully materialize until Vol.2).
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*** "Ungrateful"? He didn't get a scholarship, he was a ''trained killer''. Maybe he had a good long think after
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*** I think you've got it backward there. If we see 82 of them, then there's at least that many in-universe. They probably just reused the actors or filled the ranks with stunt people.
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** From ThatOtherWiki: "There are only 40 actors acredited to the Crazy 88, however a frame-by-frame count performed by Jonathan R. from Bouncing Ferret Films shows 82: 67 killed, 12 maimed, 1 killed by an axe thrown by somebody else, one possibly killed, one spanked." I guess we should assume that there are only forty in-universe and the rest are stunt people or extras.
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* It really bothers me that Fernita Green's daughter at the beginning of Vol. 1 is supposed to be four years old, and yet she's very articulate, carries around a big backpack, and has her own dog. She doesn't even look 4 years old, or 5 for that matter. It's just a really small detail that bugs me a lot, since Fernita's family life is supposed to be realistic in comparison to the Bride's fight scenes.
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* It really bothers me that Fernita Vernita Green's daughter at the beginning of Vol. 1 is supposed to be four years old, and yet she's very articulate, carries around a big backpack, and has her own dog. She doesn't even look 4 years old, or 5 for that matter. It's just a really small detail that bugs me a lot, since Fernita's Vernita's family life is supposed to be realistic in comparison to the Bride's fight scenes.
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** Of course not. If you actually, you know, ''watch the scene'', you'll see she doesn't make a "tiny hole," the board breaks down the length, which she would have, you know, made bigger as she got out?
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** Of course not. If you actually, you know, ''watch the scene'', you'll see she doesn't make a "tiny hole," the board breaks down the length, which she would have, you know, made bigger as she got out?out?
*It really bothers me that Fernita Green's daughter at the beginning of Vol. 1 is supposed to be four years old, and yet she's very articulate, carries around a big backpack, and has her own dog. She doesn't even look 4 years old, or 5 for that matter. It's just a really small detail that bugs me a lot, since Fernita's family life is supposed to be realistic in comparison to the Bride's fight scenes.
*It really bothers me that Fernita Green's daughter at the beginning of Vol. 1 is supposed to be four years old, and yet she's very articulate, carries around a big backpack, and has her own dog. She doesn't even look 4 years old, or 5 for that matter. It's just a really small detail that bugs me a lot, since Fernita's family life is supposed to be realistic in comparison to the Bride's fight scenes.
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*** It's not a huge one, no, but it's something that the movie deliberately hides for effect (there's a bit on the FridgeBrilliance page, I believe, that says it helps illustrate her relationship with Bill), ergo it's a spoiler. Plus, "The Bride" could be seen as a cooler way to refer to her than just by her name.
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*** It's not a huge one, no, but it's something that the movie deliberately hides for effect (there's a bit on the FridgeBrilliance page, I believe, that says it helps illustrate her relationship with Bill), ergo it's a spoiler. Plus, "The Bride" could be seen as [[RuleOfCool a cooler way to refer to her her]] than just by her name.
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*** He didn't know it was his until just before he shot her in the head. He didn't even know she was alive until she was engaged to Tommy and assumed Tommy was the father. It's partly personal but there's also a nobody leaves the DiVAS and lives to tell the tale mentality to it.
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*** He didn't know it was his until just before he shot her in the head. He didn't even know she was alive until she was engaged to Tommy and assumed Tommy was the father. It's partly personal but there's also a nobody leaves the DiVAS Deadly Viper Assassination Squad and lives to tell the tale mentality to it.
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*** He didn't know it was his until just before he shot her in the head. He didn't even know she was alive until she was engaged to Tommy and assumed Tommy was the father. It's partly personal but there's also a nobody leaves the DiVAS and lives to tell the tale mentality to it.
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*** OP here, now its been a while since i saw the movie, but i don't think it was that big of a plot point, yeah they do avoid using her name, but was it a big earth shattering revelation? I don't think so.
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*** OP here, now its been a while since i saw the movie, but i don't think it was that big of a plot point, yeah they do avoid using her name, but was it a big earth shattering revelation? I don't think so.not.
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** Budd's concern about his brother and his recognition that Kiddo deserved better than she got appear to be the extent of Budd's honorability. He shot Kiddo with rock salt and buried her alive. Are you interpreting this differently than I am? BTW, this troper was personally disgusted that he went from being an elite assassin to working as a bouncer in a redneck desert bar. To have the opportunity and training that so few can, and to be so ungrateful for that, marks him as the worst scum out of the whole bunch.
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** Because they were in two entirely unrelated parts of the film and had absolutely nothing to do with each other, maybe?
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* How exactly did The Bride get out of the coffin? I mean, no way that tiny hole was big enough to escapethrough.through.
** Of course not. If you actually, you know, ''watch the scene'', you'll see she doesn't make a "tiny hole," the board breaks down the length, which she would have, you know, made bigger as she got out?
* How exactly did The Bride get out of the coffin? I mean, no way that tiny hole was big enough to escape
** Of course not. If you actually, you know, ''watch the scene'', you'll see she doesn't make a "tiny hole," the board breaks down the length, which she would have, you know, made bigger as she got out?
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* A blogger on YouTube suggested to me once that Pai Mei should have been around to punish Gogo for her insolence. WHY DID A FIGHT BETWEEN PAI MEI AND GOGO NOT HAPPEN?! MissedMomentOfAwesome, indeed.
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* A blogger on YouTube suggested to me once that Pai Mei should have been around to punish Gogo for her insolence. WHY DID A FIGHT BETWEEN PAI MEI AND GOGO NOT HAPPEN?! MissedMomentOfAwesome, indeed.indeed.
*How many people were in the Crazy 88?
*How exactly did The Bride get out of the coffin? I mean, no way that tiny hole was big enough to escape through.
*How many people were in the Crazy 88?
*How exactly did The Bride get out of the coffin? I mean, no way that tiny hole was big enough to escape through.
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** It's clearly more than a restaurant, given it's got a big dance hall, stage for live events, and private rooms. Plus, O-Ren who, remember, runs the whole Yakuza, probably owns substantial stock in it.
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** It's clearly more than a restaurant, given it's got a big dance hall, stage for live events, and private rooms. Plus, O-Ren who, remember, runs the whole Yakuza, probably owns substantial stock in it.it.
* A blogger on YouTube suggested to me once that Pai Mei should have been around to punish Gogo for her insolence. WHY DID A FIGHT BETWEEN PAI MEI AND GOGO NOT HAPPEN?! MissedMomentOfAwesome, indeed.
* A blogger on YouTube suggested to me once that Pai Mei should have been around to punish Gogo for her insolence. WHY DID A FIGHT BETWEEN PAI MEI AND GOGO NOT HAPPEN?! MissedMomentOfAwesome, indeed.
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* What about the whole scene in "House of Blue Leaves" isn't rent in Tokyo outrageous, there is no way that a restaurant can make enough profit to sustain that giant building which undoubtedly has equally giant rent.
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* What about the whole scene in "House of Blue Leaves" isn't rent in Tokyo outrageous, there is no way that a restaurant can make enough profit to sustain that giant building which undoubtedly has equally giant rent.rent.
** It's clearly more than a restaurant, given it's got a big dance hall, stage for live events, and private rooms. Plus, O-Ren who, remember, runs the whole Yakuza, probably owns substantial stock in it.
** It's clearly more than a restaurant, given it's got a big dance hall, stage for live events, and private rooms. Plus, O-Ren who, remember, runs the whole Yakuza, probably owns substantial stock in it.
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*** It's not a huge one, no, but it's something that the movie deliberately hides for effect (there's a bit on the FridgeBrilliance page, I believe, that says it helps illustrate her relationship with Bill), ergo it's a spoiler. Plus, "The Bride" could be seen as a cooler way to refer to her than just by her name.
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*** It's not a huge one, no, but it's something that the movie deliberately hides for effect (there's a bit on the FridgeBrilliance page, I believe, that says it helps illustrate her relationship with Bill), ergo it's a spoiler. Plus, "The Bride" could be seen as a cooler way to refer to her than just by her name.name.
* What about the whole scene in "House of Blue Leaves" isn't rent in Tokyo outrageous, there is no way that a restaurant can make enough profit to sustain that giant building which undoubtedly has equally giant rent.
* What about the whole scene in "House of Blue Leaves" isn't rent in Tokyo outrageous, there is no way that a restaurant can make enough profit to sustain that giant building which undoubtedly has equally giant rent.
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*** It's not a huge one, no, but it's something that the movie deliberately hides for effect (there's a bit on the FridgeBrillianc page, I believe, that says it helps illustrate her relationship with Bill), ergo it's a spoiler. Plus, "The Bride" could be seen as a cooler way to refer to her than just by her name.
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*** It's not a huge one, no, but it's something that the movie deliberately hides for effect (there's a bit on the FridgeBrillianc FridgeBrilliance page, I believe, that says it helps illustrate her relationship with Bill), ergo it's a spoiler. Plus, "The Bride" could be seen as a cooler way to refer to her than just by her name.
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*** OP here, now its been a while since i saw the movie, but i don't think it was that big of a plot point, yeah they do avoid using her name, but was it a big earth shattering revelation? I don't think so.
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*** OP here, now its been a while since i saw the movie, but i don't think it was that big of a plot point, yeah they do avoid using her name, but was it a big earth shattering revelation? I don't think so.so.
*** It's not a huge one, no, but it's something that the movie deliberately hides for effect (there's a bit on the FridgeBrillianc page, I believe, that says it helps illustrate her relationship with Bill), ergo it's a spoiler. Plus, "The Bride" could be seen as a cooler way to refer to her than just by her name.
*** It's not a huge one, no, but it's something that the movie deliberately hides for effect (there's a bit on the FridgeBrillianc page, I believe, that says it helps illustrate her relationship with Bill), ergo it's a spoiler. Plus, "The Bride" could be seen as a cooler way to refer to her than just by her name.
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** Because her name is a bit of a spoiler, since the movie goes out of its way to conceal it until most of the way through the second film.
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** Because her name is a bit of a spoiler, since the movie goes out of its way to conceal it until most of the way through the second film.film.
***OP here, now its been a while since i saw the movie, but i don't think it was that big of a plot point, yeah they do avoid using her name, but was it a big earth shattering revelation? I don't think so.
***OP here, now its been a while since i saw the movie, but i don't think it was that big of a plot point, yeah they do avoid using her name, but was it a big earth shattering revelation? I don't think so.
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* More of a meta JBM, but why does everyone refer to Uma Thermon's character as "The Bride?" She has a name, just like everyone else, and its Beatrix Kiddo. I get that she was credited as "The Bride" in vol. 1 but she has a name.
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** No, he didn't. He sent her there to do it, then got second thoughts when it was about to happen.
* More of a meta JBM, but why does everyone refer to Uma Thermon's character as "The Bride?" She has a name, just like everyone else, and its Beatrix Kiddo. I get that she was credited as "The Bride" in vol. 1 but she has aname.name.
** Because her name is a bit of a spoiler, since the movie goes out of its way to conceal it until most of the way through the second film.
* More of a meta JBM, but why does everyone refer to Uma Thermon's character as "The Bride?" She has a name, just like everyone else, and its Beatrix Kiddo. I get that she was credited as "The Bride" in vol. 1 but she has a
** Because her name is a bit of a spoiler, since the movie goes out of its way to conceal it until most of the way through the second film.
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* Why did Bill send Elle on the mission to the hospital to poison the Bride? Didn't he know ahead of time that he would order her to abort?
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* More of a meta JBM, but why does everyone refer to Uma Thermon's character as "The Bride?" She has a name, just like everyone else, and its Beatrix Kiddo. I get that she was credited as "The Bride" in vol. 1 but she has a name.
* More of a meta JBM, but why does everyone refer to Uma Thermon's character as "The Bride?" She has a name, just like everyone else, and its Beatrix Kiddo. I get that she was credited as "The Bride" in vol. 1 but she has a name.
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** If you ask me there's nothing remotely noble in either Budd's or Bill's point of view, because the whole thing is predicated on the idea that a woman leaving a man who doesn't feel like being left, for the excellent reason that she doesn't want her child to grow up in a murderous international gangsters' underworld, is guilty of a capital offense, not just for her but for a chapelful of other people (but if you can get your baby cut out of her alive and raise it yourself, that's okay, because the bitch had no right to take it in the first place). People hardly ever defend O-Ren, Vernita or Elle for their part in the massacre, but for Bill and Budd, because their motives were personal they're automatically worthy of consideration... even though they were the personal motives of an abusively possessive boyfriend. If you want to have a BattleCouple carrying on a career of amoral professional killing and still have the relationship between them be tender and touching, [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief fine. I'll watch that.]] But you can't successfully blend the two. There is no swallowable code of martial-arts-movie ethics that makes "There are consequences to breaking the heart of a murdering bastard" an admirable thing to say.
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* The Bride's hair in Volume 2. is a condundrum for me. Up through the big fight with Elle, her hair is quite long. Afterwards,during her visit with Esteban and the final confrontation with Bill, her hair has shortened to a bob. OK, one could argue she got an offscreen haircut. But then when we see her with [[spoiler:BB at the motel]], her hair is back to being as long as it was at the start of the movie. I find it hard to believe that much time had passed between scenes. Obviously very small, but it just bugs me.
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* The Bride's hair in Volume 2. is a condundrum for me. Up through the big fight with Elle, her hair is quite long. Afterwards,during her visit with Esteban and the final confrontation with Bill, her hair has shortened to a bob. OK, one could argue she got an offscreen haircut. But then when we see her with [[spoiler:BB at the motel]], her hair is back to being as long as it was at the start of the movie. I find it hard to believe that much time had passed between scenes. Obviously very small, but it just bugs me.
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* Sure, Bill was a killer, but at least he was a generous guy, since he insisted on paying for everything when they all went out after. . . the. . . wedding. . . HEY!
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* The Bride's hair in Volume 2. is a condundrum for me. Up through the big fight with Elle, her hair is quite long. Afterwards,during her visit with Esteban and the final confrontation with Bill, her hair has shortened to a bob. OK, one could argue she got an offscreen haircut. But then when we see her with [[spoiler:BB at the motel]], her hair is back to being as long as it was at the start of the movie. I find it hard to believe that much time had passed between scenes. Obviously very small, but it just bugs me.
* The Bride's hair in Volume 2. is a condundrum for me. Up through the big fight with Elle, her hair is quite long. Afterwards,during her visit with Esteban and the final confrontation with Bill, her hair has shortened to a bob. OK, one could argue she got an offscreen haircut. But then when we see her with [[spoiler:BB at the motel]], her hair is back to being as long as it was at the start of the movie. I find it hard to believe that much time had passed between scenes. Obviously very small, but it just bugs me.
