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*** I'll NEVER like Viridi. Palutena FTW.
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** To balance things out?
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***** So they like being insulted and beaten up? Wow. Just...wow.


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*** In his defense, it can be hard to come up with a good comeback WHILE BEING PUMMELED BY ENEMIES LEFT AND RIGHT.
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** Its not bad writing as much as how dumb Pit is in general for coming up with a comeback. It's already amazing that Pit was able to have a comeback at Hades up until that point. Pit is usually really bad at coming up with arguments if it lasted long and it usually ends with Pit saying or doing something stupid that proves everyone's point. If it was any other character that wasn't Pit, they would have said that.
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**** Some people like {{Tsundere}}s.
** One significant factor may be that she is never actually shown attacking any humans after the Reset Bomb Depot is destroyed. After that chapter, her generals are defeated despite spending more time dealing with non-human factions at the time, the [[spoiler:Aurum]] stuff happens, [[spoiler:and then three years pass offscreen]]. At that point, is there evidence that her war hasn't almost entirely stopped, even if she retains her opinions?



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** Bad writing.writing.
* It's a bit surprising that after [[spoiler:Viridi enters the conflict, the Aurum show up ''and'' Palutena's army apparently turns destructive, humanity is still able to survive against multiple hostile god factions with no allies for at least three years]]. Is Magnus really that awesome?

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* --> Palutena: I just can't imagine you in a [[SuperSmashBros melee]].\\
--> Pit: That's because I wasn't.

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* --> Palutena: -->'''Palutena''': I just can't imagine you in a [[SuperSmashBros melee]].\\
--> Pit: -->'''Pit''': That's because I wasn't.


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**** I don't think they were referencing Super Smash Bros. if "melee" wasn't capitalized.
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*** Well, a few people say it's because she's funny, but frankly, I fail to see how physical/verbal abuse, even DEATH THREATS, are considered comedy gold.

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* When Pit tries to accuse Hades of preventing souls from reincarnating by eating them, Hades makes a {{Strawman Has A Point}} speech where he claims that reincarnation is no different from being removed from existence since it takes away the souls' previous body, memories and experiences. Pit is momentarily unable to come up with a convincing counterargument other than pitifully proclaiming it to be wrong, as if what Hades was saying is so convincing he can't think of anything to say otherwise. Except, there are plenty of things he could have said that would show that Hades argument is full of shit. Like how being reincarnated is far more preferable than spending eternity being digested in an {{Evil God}}'s stomach. OR that a person can learn new things and enjoy the wonders of life all over again. Or even that a reincarnated person still has the free will to choose his fate, while Hades forces the souls he hasn't eaten into becoming a part of his army. Heck, I would expect him to say that no matter what new life a person takes, his previous life is never completely forgotten and is always with him. There are so many things Pit could have said to [[ShutUpHannibal shut Hades argument up]], but instead all he says is [[LameComeback "I... uh... Eating souls isn't right!"]]

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** Most likely, they're all masochists.
* When Pit tries to accuse Hades of preventing souls from reincarnating by eating them, Hades makes a {{Strawman Has A Point}} speech where he claims that reincarnation is no different from being removed from existence since it takes away the souls' previous body, memories and experiences. Pit is momentarily unable to come up with a convincing counterargument other than pitifully proclaiming it to be wrong, as if what Hades was saying is so convincing he can't think of anything to say otherwise. Except, there are plenty of things he could have said that would show that Hades argument is full of shit. Like how being reincarnated is far more preferable than spending eternity being digested in an {{Evil God}}'s stomach. OR that a person can learn new things and enjoy the wonders of life all over again. Or even that a reincarnated person still has the free will to choose his fate, while Hades forces the souls he hasn't eaten into becoming a part of his army. Heck, I would expect him to say that no matter what new life a person takes, his previous life is never completely forgotten and is always with him. There are so many things Pit could have said to [[ShutUpHannibal shut Hades argument up]], but instead all he says is [[LameComeback "I... uh... Eating souls isn't right!"]]right!"]]
** Bad writing.
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* When Pit tries to accuse Hades of preventing souls from reincarnating by eating them, Hades makes a {{Strawman Has A Point}} speech where he claims that reincarnation is no different from being removed from existence since it takes away the souls' previous body, memories and experiences. Pit is momentarily unable to come up with a convincing counterargument other than pitifully proclaiming it to be wrong, as if what Hades was saying is so convincing he can't think of anything to say otherwise. Except, there are plenty of things he could have said that would show that Hades argument is full of shit. Like how being reincarnated is far more preferable than spending eternity being digested in an {{Evil God}}'s stomach. OR that a person can learn new things and enjoy the wonders of life all over again. Or even that a reincarnated person still has the free will to choose his fate, while Hades forces the souls he hasn't eaten into becoming a part of his army. Heck, I would expect him to say that no matter what new life a person takes, his previous life is never completely forgotten and is always with him. There are so many things Pit could have said to [[ShutUpHannibal shut Hades argument up]], but instead all he says is "I... uh... Eating souls isn't right!"

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* When Pit tries to accuse Hades of preventing souls from reincarnating by eating them, Hades makes a {{Strawman Has A Point}} speech where he claims that reincarnation is no different from being removed from existence since it takes away the souls' previous body, memories and experiences. Pit is momentarily unable to come up with a convincing counterargument other than pitifully proclaiming it to be wrong, as if what Hades was saying is so convincing he can't think of anything to say otherwise. Except, there are plenty of things he could have said that would show that Hades argument is full of shit. Like how being reincarnated is far more preferable than spending eternity being digested in an {{Evil God}}'s stomach. OR that a person can learn new things and enjoy the wonders of life all over again. Or even that a reincarnated person still has the free will to choose his fate, while Hades forces the souls he hasn't eaten into becoming a part of his army. Heck, I would expect him to say that no matter what new life a person takes, his previous life is never completely forgotten and is always with him. There are so many things Pit could have said to [[ShutUpHannibal shut Hades argument up]], but instead all he says is [[LameComeback "I... uh... Eating souls isn't right!"right!"]]
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* When Pit tries to accuse Hades of preventing souls from reincarnating by eating them, Hades makes a {{Strawman Has A Point}} speech where he claims that reincarnation is no different from being removed from existence since it takes away the souls' previous body, memories and experiences. Pit is momentarily unable to come up with a convincing counterargument other than pitifully proclaiming it to be wrong, as if what Hades was saying is so convincing he can't think of anything to say otherwise. Except, there are plenty of things he could have said that would show that Hades argument is full of shit. Like how being reincarnated is far more preferable than spending eternity being digested in an {{Evil God}}'s stomach. OR that a person can learn new things and enjoy the wonders of life all over again. Or even that a reincarnated person still has the free will to choose his fate, while Hades forces the souls he hasn't eaten into becoming a part of his army. Heck, I would expect him to say that no matter what new life a person takes, his previous life is never completely forgotten and is always with him. There are so many things Pit could have said to {{ShutUpHannibal shut Hades argument up]], but instead all he says is "I... uh... Eating souls isn't right!"

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* When Pit tries to accuse Hades of preventing souls from reincarnating by eating them, Hades makes a {{Strawman Has A Point}} speech where he claims that reincarnation is no different from being removed from existence since it takes away the souls' previous body, memories and experiences. Pit is momentarily unable to come up with a convincing counterargument other than pitifully proclaiming it to be wrong, as if what Hades was saying is so convincing he can't think of anything to say otherwise. Except, there are plenty of things he could have said that would show that Hades argument is full of shit. Like how being reincarnated is far more preferable than spending eternity being digested in an {{Evil God}}'s stomach. OR that a person can learn new things and enjoy the wonders of life all over again. Or even that a reincarnated person still has the free will to choose his fate, while Hades forces the souls he hasn't eaten into becoming a part of his army. Heck, I would expect him to say that no matter what new life a person takes, his previous life is never completely forgotten and is always with him. There are so many things Pit could have said to {{ShutUpHannibal [[ShutUpHannibal shut Hades argument up]], but instead all he says is "I... uh... Eating souls isn't right!"
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* Why does [[{{AlphaBitch}} Viridi]] have such a massive fanbase, despite her rudeness and [[spoiler: [[{{KarmaHoudini}} refusal to support humans at the end of the game, despite Pit having saved the world?]]]]

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* Why does [[{{AlphaBitch}} Viridi]] have such a massive fanbase, despite her rudeness and [[spoiler: [[{{KarmaHoudini}} refusal to support humans at the end of the game, despite Pit having saved the world?]]]]world?]]]]
* When Pit tries to accuse Hades of preventing souls from reincarnating by eating them, Hades makes a {{Strawman Has A Point}} speech where he claims that reincarnation is no different from being removed from existence since it takes away the souls' previous body, memories and experiences. Pit is momentarily unable to come up with a convincing counterargument other than pitifully proclaiming it to be wrong, as if what Hades was saying is so convincing he can't think of anything to say otherwise. Except, there are plenty of things he could have said that would show that Hades argument is full of shit. Like how being reincarnated is far more preferable than spending eternity being digested in an {{Evil God}}'s stomach. OR that a person can learn new things and enjoy the wonders of life all over again. Or even that a reincarnated person still has the free will to choose his fate, while Hades forces the souls he hasn't eaten into becoming a part of his army. Heck, I would expect him to say that no matter what new life a person takes, his previous life is never completely forgotten and is always with him. There are so many things Pit could have said to {{ShutUpHannibal shut Hades argument up]], but instead all he says is "I... uh... Eating souls isn't right!"
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** Does the game say constellations are made up of stars? Or that the sun is a type of star? Could easily be a universe where smaller lights in the sky are known as stars while large things that planets orbit that we call stars still exist.

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** Does the game say constellations are made up of stars? Or that the sun is a type of star? Could easily be a universe where smaller lights in the sky are known as stars while large things that planets orbit that we call stars still exist.exist.
* Why does [[{{AlphaBitch}} Viridi]] have such a massive fanbase, despite her rudeness and [[spoiler: [[{{KarmaHoudini}} refusal to support humans at the end of the game, despite Pit having saved the world?]]]]
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*** [[spoiler: Heel-Face...she was obliterated by Hades! And he didn't have plans to revive her again when he pulled off the YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness!]]

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* Could someone tell me how [[spoiler: Viridi]] gets a KarmaHoudini at the end? She didn't get away with any evil schemes, and she did say she would let Pit and Palutena have their happy ending.
** [[spoiler: Viridi]] got away with killing millions of humans with the Reset Bomb upon introduction. Even if Pit destroyed her factories and defeated/killed her followers, Pit never got to face her in battle and get her to stop hating/killing the human race. Even if she helped Pit, Pittoo and Palutena out to defeat [[spoiler: Hades]], that doesn't stop her from the crime of killing millions of humans. The ending implies that after the "happy ending" she and Palutena would be enemies again because [[spoiler: Viridi]] never changed her views on humans and still consider them evil for destroying nature.
*** Hey, are you forgetting that Pit will still be around to fight evil? Who's the hero? Who decimated her army?
*** Millions? Looked more like thousands.
**** Regardless of the number, she killed a lot of people and didn't repent for it.
***** Maybe Palutena put them in the Rewind Spring.
****** [[spoiler: Hades]] probably already got to them given the time frame of the attack.
*** Eh, she'll stop attacking them anyway. Like Palutena said, gods shouldn't interfere with humans, the worst she'll do is just hold a neverending grudge, but she won't do anything about it.
*** Poseidon got away with sinking an entire kingdom in the backstory without being punished, or even reprimanded by Palutena. Apparently, Gods are allowed to kill humans when they feel the situation calls for it ([[ValuesDissonance which they probably think of as a slap on the wrist]]), but aren't allowed to pull extinction-level events like [[spoiler:Viridi]] planned, or mess up the natural order like [[spoiler:Hades]] was doing. As long as they eventually stop, that's enough for Palutena to forgive them.
**** Nowhere in real-world legends did it say that a giant nature bomb hit us. Since Atlantis was known for having been sunk...well...
**** [[spoiler:She leaves with happily with a smile in the Japanese version. She's pulled a Heel Face Turn.]]
***** Then how come they changed her to the opposite in the English version?
***** It's more of a "doesn't want to admit she was 100% wrong the entire time". Anyway, even if she does plan to attack, we still have Pit. It's only in cutscenes that he failed in, whereas bosses were defeated.



* So why are most quick to assume that Palutena's a LethalChef from the ''Palutena's Revolting Dinner'' short? I watched it a few times and to me it looked like the only problem Palutena caused was accidentally pouring in too much Rejuvanator on the dish because she was distracted by talking to Pit. Before that it looks like she knows fairly well what she's doing since before the whole "accidental pouring incident" she adds just the one drop the recipe suggests. Its a bit harsh to instantly judge her as a bad cook just because of an error anyone could make.
** I think it's mainly Pit's reaction during the whole anime segment. It's not the whole having to eat vegetables that seems to get him. When the place explodes due to the errors that Palutena makes, Pit makes it seem like this has happened more than once before, so when at the end of Part 2, he seems shocked at what happened to Palutena, but doesn't ask her if she's okay mainly because a similar incident might have happened.
** Makes sense. Some exposition in-universe would have helped a bit more though so it doesn't look like people are seeing a small error anyone could make and are saying "Man she sucks at cooking where's AnthonyWorralThompson?"
** To be fair, it was only a small anime portion that wouldn't give insight on something like this like how ''Medusa's Revenge was'' supposed to show why Medusa did a {{Face Heel Turn}} but only [[TheyWastedaPerfectlyGoodPlot tapped the surface of her relationship with Palutena and what we already know from the manual of the first game.]]
** Never know that about MR. In any case if they just had Pit say "Remember last time you cooked spaghetti and nearly killed the entire population of Skyworld?" then perhaps the LethalChef example wouldn't just look like a knee-jerk insta-judgment to Palutena mishandling Rejuvanator.
*** Three words: RuleOfFunny.
**** That's true; this anime's supposed to be a comedy, whereas Medusa's Revenge was more of an action and had no humor, and Thanatos Rising is a mix of action and comedy.



* Why does everybody praise Viridi so much? Isn't she a KarmaHoudini for that she was planning?
** She's a funny {{Tsundere}}.
*** So killing off all of humanity is considered "funny"? I really don't understand.



* Why was Pit even ''in'' Brawl? Kid Icarus was an old game that played symmetrical to Metroid. It should've been written off as a sidenote to history like most games for Atari systems or the Sega Game Gear, and the only thing it got after the game was a Game Boy sequel to coincide with Metroid II.
** It's a Nintendo game. Nintendo likes reminding us of their games. Even Urban Champion keeps making reappearances.
*** Pit was actually considered for both 64 and Melee. It was only until Brawl that he had his chance to shine.

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*** Can you rephrase that? It reads more like you said that the players died. As in, in the real world.



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*** So killing off all of humanity is considered "funny"? I really don't understand.
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** Does the game say constellations are made up of stars? Or that the sun is a type of star? Could easily be a universe where smaller lights in the sky are known as stars while large planet orbiting things that are known we call stars still exist.

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** Does the game say constellations are made up of stars? Or that the sun is a type of star? Could easily be a universe where smaller lights in the sky are known as stars while large planet orbiting things that are known planets orbit that we call stars still exist.
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* Is this game's universe as geocentric, or even heliocentric, as the ancient Greeks believed the universe to be? Chapter 8 features an alien force that is stealing entire constellations, and it's depicted as a single vessel and an annoying obstacle in the way of the Three Sacred Treasures. Later in the game, [[spoiler:an entire fleet of aliens shows up with intent to stripmine the planet, and this fight takes three chapters to resolve and forces an EnemyMine situation between the god factions]]. One would think that [[spoiler:a bunch of stars would take more resources to collect than a mere planet orbiting a single star, with or without factoring in resistance]].

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* Is this game's universe as geocentric, or even heliocentric, as the ancient Greeks believed the universe to be? Chapter 8 features an alien force that is stealing entire constellations, and it's depicted as a single vessel and an annoying obstacle in the way of the Three Sacred Treasures. Later in the game, [[spoiler:an entire fleet of aliens shows up with intent to stripmine the planet, and this fight takes three chapters to resolve and forces an EnemyMine situation between the god factions]]. One would think that [[spoiler:a bunch of stars would take more resources to collect than a mere planet orbiting a single star, with or without factoring in resistance]].resistance]].
**Does the game say constellations are made up of stars? Or that the sun is a type of star? Could easily be a universe where smaller lights in the sky are known as stars while large planet orbiting things that are known we call stars still exist.
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*** Pit was actually considered for both 64 and Melee. It was only until Brawl that he had his chance to shine.
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* Is this game's universe as heliocentric as the ancient Greeks believed the universe to be? Chapter 8 features an alien force that is stealing entire constellations, and it's depicted as a single vessel and an annoying obstacle in the way of the Three Sacred Treasures. Later in the game, [[spoiler:an entire fleet of aliens shows up with intent to stripmine the planet, and this fight takes three chapters to resolve and forces an EnemyMine situation between the god factions]]. One would think that [[spoiler:a bunch of stars would take more resources to collect than a mere planet orbiting a single star, with or without factoring in resistance]].

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* Is this game's universe as heliocentric geocentric, or even heliocentric, as the ancient Greeks believed the universe to be? Chapter 8 features an alien force that is stealing entire constellations, and it's depicted as a single vessel and an annoying obstacle in the way of the Three Sacred Treasures. Later in the game, [[spoiler:an entire fleet of aliens shows up with intent to stripmine the planet, and this fight takes three chapters to resolve and forces an EnemyMine situation between the god factions]]. One would think that [[spoiler:a bunch of stars would take more resources to collect than a mere planet orbiting a single star, with or without factoring in resistance]].
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* Why was Pit even ''in'' Brawl? Kid Icarus was an old game that played symmetrical to Metroid. It should've been written off as a sidenote to history like most games for Atari systems or the Sega Game Gear, and the only thing it got after the game was a Game Boy sequel to coincide with Metroid II.

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* Why was Pit even ''in'' Brawl? Kid Icarus was an old game that played symmetrical to Metroid. It should've been written off as a sidenote to history like most games for Atari systems or the Sega Game Gear, and the only thing it got after the game was a Game Boy sequel to coincide with Metroid II.II.
** It's a Nintendo game. Nintendo likes reminding us of their games. Even Urban Champion keeps making reappearances.
* Is this game's universe as heliocentric as the ancient Greeks believed the universe to be? Chapter 8 features an alien force that is stealing entire constellations, and it's depicted as a single vessel and an annoying obstacle in the way of the Three Sacred Treasures. Later in the game, [[spoiler:an entire fleet of aliens shows up with intent to stripmine the planet, and this fight takes three chapters to resolve and forces an EnemyMine situation between the god factions]]. One would think that [[spoiler:a bunch of stars would take more resources to collect than a mere planet orbiting a single star, with or without factoring in resistance]].
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*** Yeah, but he didn't fight.

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*** Yeah, but he didn't fight.fight.
* Why was Pit even ''in'' Brawl? Kid Icarus was an old game that played symmetrical to Metroid. It should've been written off as a sidenote to history like most games for Atari systems or the Sega Game Gear, and the only thing it got after the game was a Game Boy sequel to coincide with Metroid II.

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* Why does everybody praise Viridi so much? Isn't she the one who enjoys killing all humans?

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* Why does everybody praise Viridi so much? Isn't she the one who enjoys killing all humans?a KarmaHoudini for that she was planning?



*** On the plus side, she's ripe for some fanart of, say, [[VideoGame/GodOfWar Kratos]] decapitating her. Which I am in the process of commissioning.

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*** Then if Medusa stopped Pit from getting the bow and arrows, we wouldn't have a game, and thus, no Uprising. And we don't want that, do we?



*** Then if Medusa stopped Pit from getting the bow and arrows, we wouldn't have a game, and thus, no Uprising. And we don't want that, do we?
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** Also, the game has NoFourthWall. While Pit might not have canonically died in the original game, Palutena would be aware that the people playing the game died.
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** Um, wasn't Pit in Melee as a trophy?

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** Um, wasn't Pit in Melee as a trophy?trophy?
*** Yeah, but he didn't fight.
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* The Claws allow Pit to move faster because they are lightweight. In that case, why doesn't Pit gain increased speed from Palms, which should weigh less being a magical combination of a sleeve and a tattoo, and the Orbitars, which float at Pit's side and shouldn't weigh him down at all?
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*** On the plus side, she's ripe for some fanart of, say, [[VideoGame/GodOfWar Kratos]] decapitating her. Which I am in the process of commissioning.

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*** On the plus side, she's ripe for some fanart of, say, [[VideoGame/GodOfWar Kratos]] decapitating her. Which I am in the process of commissioning.commissioning.
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--> Pit: That's because I wasn't.
**Um, wasn't Pit in Melee as a trophy?
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** She's a funny {{Tsundere}}.

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** She's a funny {{Tsundere}}.{{Tsundere}}.
*** On the plus side, she's ripe for some fanart of, say, [[VideoGame/GodOfWar Kratos]] decapitating her. Which I am in the process of commissioning.
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* Why does everybody praise Viridi so much? Isn't she the one who enjoys killing all humans?

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* Why does everybody praise Viridi so much? Isn't she the one who enjoys killing all humans?humans?
** She's a funny {{Tsundere}}.

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