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Headscratchers: Kid Icarus: Uprising
  • If palms are applied to person like tattoos are, how do Pit and the fighters remove them?
  • The Claws allow Pit to move faster because they are lightweight. In that case, why doesn't Pit gain increased speed from Palms, which should weigh less being a magical combination of a sleeve and a tattoo, and the Orbitars, which float at Pit's side and shouldn't weigh him down at all?
    • Because claws are more melee oriented than Palms or Orbitars. You gotta be in and out before the enemy can begin attacking.
    • Heavy Tattoos?
  • Did Pyrrhon really pull a Face-Heel Turn or was he being controlled by the Aurum Brain when he said he needed the Gods and Goddesses to work together so he could try and control them? I have a hard time believing that he was The Chessmaster given his personality and the need to sprout justice. I mean, his idol only mentions that he's smarter despite his appearance but other than that, there are no indications that he really betrayed the group for his own selfish needs or tried to be the hero in destroying the Aurum Brain only for it to backfire. Also, did he die at the end of chapter 17 given he doesn't show up after he chucks the Aurum Brain far away from the planet.
    • Maybe he retreated back to the heart of the sun and hibernated.
      • His Aurum Pyrrhon idol states that he wanted to control the Aurum for himself, but ended up being overwhelmed. As for whether he dies or not, I think that he probably lived and is currently somewhere in space. According to Viridi, she says "He finally does something useful", which probably means he's still alive.
      • The way I read that scene was that Pyrrhon was dead, and the force propelling the Aurum out of the system was his body burning/combusting for however long a god of fire burns for, basically acting as a rocket propulsion system. He's "finally doing something useful", but only in death.
  • Given Palutena's obsession with the natural order, what happens after the ruler of the Underworld is defeated, leaving a gaping power vacuum? There doesn't seem to be much balance there.
    • Hades jokes in the very last portion of the game, that he can bring himself to life but it would take some time...like twenty five years. Chances are that there will be no more attacks on the humans unless Viridi continues to attack them leaving a peaceful era...but the problem is that dead souls won't be guided with no one in charge of the underworld at the moment...meaning that Palutena might have made things worse until Hades comes back...if he comes back at all and that's if he has a change of heart, which he probably won't, but maybe he won't abuse his power if he revives himself.
      • Didn't Palutena say that Reapers take lost souls to the Underworld?
      • She did. Reapers, however, are also a part of Underworld forces. Hopefully, they weren't wiped out with the rest of the army at the end of the war.
      • You'll never see a Reaper (despite a few Reapettes and Dyntos clones) attacking any place that isn't actually in the Underworld, so it may be more accurate to call them part of the Underworld army's defenses. They act exactly like guards anyway.
    • Medusa will probably take up the role of Goddess of the Underworld. And considering her Heel-Face Turn at the end, she might not want to attack Palutena this time around... maybe.
  • Was Dark Pit only helping Pit for his his own self-preservation, or did he have a change of heart? He is shown to have a conscience at times, but it can be a little vague whether he is genuinely fond of Pit or not. I personally think the latter, but I'm not completely certain.
    • I'm certain that he did have a Heel-Face Turn because before chapter 21 like in chapter 9, he helps Pit despite of the fact there is no need for him to help him at this point of the game, and this is before he finds out that Pit needs to be alive so he can continue living. So I'm certain of the latter than the former. Besides, outside of story mode like Light vs. Dark, the game implies that the two train together, so I am certain that he has grown attached to Pit if only a little.
  • Does the Phoenix know that the Wish Seed is actually a fake? The Phoenix guards the thing like it's real, but it's all just a ruse set by Hades! Did Hades actually make the Wish Seed? Did he also make the Phoenix?
    • I think the Phoenix doesn't care if the Wish Seed is fake or not. It was already pissed off that people were coming into it's territory and disturbing it. What I do know is that Dyntos created the Phoenix but why he created the Phoenix when the Wish Seed doesn't exist is unknown.
    • Or it could be that the "wish seed" at the Phoenix's nesting place was really the Phoenix's egg, which just happened to look like a seed.
      • Sadly jossed; you can destroy it, and if you do, Hades will complain that you "broke his toy", and Palutena will say that it was only a bomb.
  • So what was the deal with Hades' Heart? Even if it was destroyed, Hades still lives, so what was the point of having one in the first place?
    • I personally thought that the heart was symbolic. Check the WMG section on what I thought about the heart and it being out of place. Given it's cute appearance seems weird...
      • Also, the idol's description indeed says it doesn't even pump blood.
  • At the beginning of the Dual Boss fight in the lategame, Pit starts asking Magnus questions about his past motivations and what he's been doing lately, only to be rebuffed. Even if he's awesome, shouldn't Pit have a more relevant target? He last saw Gaol immediately after he defeated and revealed her in chapter 2, more than three years have passed since then, and Magnus is teamed up with her. Wouldn't that be the more worthwhile story to hear?
    • That would have turned the game into a major Kudzu Plot then.
    • They're probably saving both stories for the sequel. I'm sure we'll see more of those two.
      • Except Sakurai said that there won't be a sequel.
  • Why didn't Arlon that the Lunar sanctuary was a prison for the Chaos Kin anyways?'
    • This is actually referenced in chapter 19. Viridi says that Arlon had a sense of pride that prevented him from just telling Pit and Palutena about the Chaos Kin instead of beating around the bushes and making it seem like he was helping Viridi make another Reset Bomb.
      • A better question would probably be why was that information confidential in the first place, and why would Viridi have Arlon attack Pit instead of having the Fortress stay clear of the war zone? I don't think Hades would release the Chaos Kin, given his reaction to the Aurum, there aren't any other gods that we know of who would willingly unleash it on the world, and Viridi had to be aware that bringing a weapon like the Sanctum into the war would result in everyone trying to destroy it. Was she really arrogant enough to assume it would be able to fight the forces of Palutena and Hades and still have enough power to contain an extra-dimensional god-killing abomination, or did she somehow manage to forget about its prisoner when she was giving orders to her commanders?
      • Viridi was completely offscreen throughout chapter 13; the only order she gave to the sanctum was to remain defensive, and I highly doubt simply hiding it in deep space would have been a viable option for Mother "Earth" anyway. Besides, making news of the Chaos Kin public would've only increased the chances of Palutena and Hades targeting Arlon (likely to apprehend the Chaos Kin herself and to utilize the creature for his own plans, respectively), whereas the only reason the former suddenly decided to attack it was to force checkmate on the Forces of Nature.
      • I doubt Palutena would have tried to apprehend the Chaos Kin herself. It doesn't seem in character for her to have a pissing contest with such a dangerous entity.
  • According to the Petrified Palutena idol, Palutena turned herself into stone so the Chaos Kin could only take her soul into the Chaos Vortex. Except that's exactly what it wants. Wouldn't giving the Chaos Kin her soul just make things easier for it?
    • It's probably bad translation, I think that taking her soul is what turned her to stone. Also, notice how she turns to stone AFTER it takes her soul.
      • Also, it seems that the "she turned her to stone" part...I think the "she" part was supposed to be "it" instead. Remember, this is a game made by the Smash Bros. team, which had pretty bad trophy descriptions...
      • She could have been trying to stop it from possessing her again.
      • Or stop the Chaos Kin from taking her, period.
      • I agree with the above. When the Chaos Kin took Pit's body, he rampaged for three years and probably killed hundreds of people, without his soul though, Pit's body was blank and empty. If the Chaos Kin had taken Palutena's body, it probably would have access to God-like power.
  • The Reset Bomb Depot idol description states "While there were once three Reset Bomb Depots, all are eventually destroyed by enemies of the goddess Viridi". Who destroyed the other two?
    • It's most likely to be the Underworld forces.
  • If the reason that Pit can continue after death is that Palutena brings him back to life, how is it that Pit was able to come back in the first game, when Palutena was captured? We know he did because Palutena mentions that he died a lot in the Underworld.
    • Maybe he had to climb out of the Underworld, like Kratos did.
    • OP here with an answer from the original game (well, the 3D Classic version)'s manual. Palutena was able to use her "magical strength" to give Pit his bow and arrow, so obviously Medusa was stupid enough to let her keep her powers while imprisoned.
      • Then if Medusa stopped Pit from getting the bow and arrows, we wouldn't have a game, and thus, no Uprising. And we don't want that, do we?
    • Also, the game has No Fourth Wall. While Pit might not have canonically died in the original game, Palutena would be aware that the people playing the game died.
      • Can you rephrase that? It reads more like you said that the players died. As in, in the real world.
    Palutena: I just can't imagine you in a melee.
    —>Pit: That's because I wasn't.
    • Um, wasn't Pit in Melee as a trophy?
      • Yeah, but he didn't fight.
      • I don't think they were referencing Super Smash Bros. if "melee" wasn't capitalized.
  • Is this game's universe as geocentric, or even heliocentric, as the ancient Greeks believed the universe to be? Chapter 8 features an alien force that is stealing entire constellations, and it's depicted as a single vessel and an annoying obstacle in the way of the Three Sacred Treasures. Later in the game, an entire fleet of aliens shows up with intent to stripmine the planet, and this fight takes three chapters to resolve and forces an Enemy Mine situation between the god factions. One would think that a bunch of stars would take more resources to collect than a mere planet orbiting a single star, with or without factoring in resistance.
    • Does the game say constellations are made up of stars? Or that the sun is a type of star? Could easily be a universe where smaller lights in the sky are known as stars while large things that planets orbit that we call stars still exist.
  • Why does Viridi have such a massive fanbase, despite her rudeness and refusal to support humans at the end of the game, despite Pit having saved the world?
    • Most likely, they're all masochists.
      • Well, a few people say it's because she's funny, but frankly, I fail to see how physical/verbal abuse, even DEATH THREATS, are considered comedy gold.
      • Some people like Tsunderes.
      • So they like being insulted and beaten up? Wow. Just...wow.
    • One significant factor may be that she is never actually shown attacking any humans after the Reset Bomb Depot is destroyed. After that chapter, her generals are defeated despite spending more time dealing with non-human factions at the time, the Aurum stuff happens, and then three years pass offscreen. At that point, is there evidence that her war hasn't almost entirely stopped, even if she retains her opinions?
      • I'll NEVER like Viridi. Palutena FTW.
      • Palutena's hotter, sexier, and loves humanity (which we're part of, duh). Viridi on the other hand looks like she's 8 years old, a bitch, and wants to kill humanity (again, which we're part of). Who would you side with? (rhetorical question, btw, and inb4 "viridi has a point lol trolololo")
      • Thank God a sequel won't be made, I've had enough of seeing her fugly face.
      • Sorry about that last post, I was in a bad mood when I wrote it. I just find it incredibly bizarre that people actually agree with Viridi's motives on killing humans, when obviously they are human themselves.
    • Because, like it or not, she's a fairly complex character. Yes, she hates humans, but remember that she follows a Blue and Orange Morality. The Reset Bombs are essentially secondary succession fastforwarded by a factor of several thousand; in her eyes, she's just speeding up what was going to happen anyway, which she thinks is completely different from humans killing each other with conventional weapons and explosives. Without Reset Bombs, her only option is outright violence against humans, which, by her aforementioned morality (although not any morality common to humans) is entirely different and wrong: thus, she becomes harmless. As for still hating humans at the end of the game, of course she isn't going to turn her opinion around 180 degrees so quickly; that's just not how people work, godly or otherwise. But it's obvious that she has grown attached to Pit (why else would she have helped him fly and set up an entire area for him to prepare for battle instead of sending Phosphora and a few more of her commanders to find and kill the Chaos Kin?), so even if/when she gets her Reset Bomb factory back up and running, she may find Pit and Palutena to be too important to her to risk their odd friendship. I can see her eventually being convinced to try to teach humans to act the way she desires them to instead of killing them... but this is veering into WMG territory, so I'll stop here.
  • When Pit tries to accuse Hades of preventing souls from reincarnating by eating them, Hades makes a Strawman Has a Point speech where he claims that reincarnation is no different from being removed from existence since it takes away the souls' previous body, memories and experiences. Pit is momentarily unable to come up with a convincing counterargument other than pitifully proclaiming it to be wrong, as if what Hades was saying is so convincing he can't think of anything to say otherwise. Except, there are plenty of things he could have said that would show that Hades argument is full of shit. Like how being reincarnated is far more preferable than spending eternity being digested in an Evil God's stomach. OR that a person can learn new things and enjoy the wonders of life all over again. Or even that a reincarnated person still has the free will to choose his fate, while Hades forces the souls he hasn't eaten into becoming a part of his army. Heck, I would expect him to say that no matter what new life a person takes, his previous life is never completely forgotten and is always with him. There are so many things Pit could have said to shut Hades argument up, but instead all he says is "I... uh... Eating souls isn't right!"
    • Bad writing.
    • Its not bad writing as much as how dumb Pit is in general for coming up with a comeback. It's already amazing that Pit was able to have a comeback at Hades up until that point. Pit is usually really bad at coming up with arguments if it lasted long and it usually ends with Pit saying or doing something stupid that proves everyone's point. If it was any other character that wasn't Pit, they would have said that.
      • In his defense, it can be hard to come up with a good comeback WHILE BEING PUMMELED BY ENEMIES LEFT AND RIGHT. Seriously, I've had to play through 0.0 until I unlocked the "no dialogue" option, the chattering was distracting me.
  • It's a bit surprising that after Viridi enters the conflict, the Aurum show up and Palutena's army apparently turns destructive, humanity is still able to survive against multiple hostile god factions with no allies for at least three years. Is Magnus really that awesome?
    • I suppose, though his weapon is absolute shit on higher intensities.
  • Is it me, or did they make the Viridi weapons far too OP?
    • It's you. The Aurum Orbitars and Palm, on the other hand...
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