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* Most of the time in the series, despite the characters being presented as speaking Japanese, it's obvious what language they're actually speaking (English for part 1, Italian for part 5, etc.). But does Joseph know Japanese? He might have picked up some (he mentions being able to read some of the kanji in Hong Kong) but I doubt he's fluent, so most likely all the Stardust Crusaders are speaking English (and Jotaro would obviously pick up English from his American mother), which begs the question of how he's able to speak to anyone in Morioh.
** I personally like to think they were speaking English in Stardust Crusaders, except that Jotaro doesn't know English, which is why he remains silent most of the time (except at the beginning, where he was clearly speaking Japanese, and in Diamond is Unbreakable).
** He definitely knows how to speak Japanese. Since he met Josuke's mother before Part 3 it's probably that he was fluent even then. He's a fan of Rohan's work so he can probably read it too. Although it is possible he picked up a copy in some other language.
** I personally like to think they were speaking English in Stardust Crusaders, except that Jotaro doesn't know English, which is why he remains silent most of the time (except at the beginning, where he was clearly speaking Japanese, and in Diamond is Unbreakable).
** He definitely knows how to speak Japanese. Since he met Josuke's mother before Part 3 it's probably that he was fluent even then. He's a fan of Rohan's work so he can probably read it too. Although it is possible he picked up a copy in some other language.
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* Okay, I want to know which of Dio's two stands in Part III is Johnathan's? The unnamed Hermit Purple-like one, or The World? If it's the Hermit Purple-like one, then it explains Joseph having it; if it's The World than it explains why Josuke's Crazy Diamond looks like it as well as [[spoiler:Jotaro's time-stop ability and Star Platinum: The World]]. And the fact that Dio uses The World more doesn't count, because he is exactly the kind of person who would steal someone else's powers and justify it as being his (e.g. since Johnathan's body is now his body, his powers are now his).
** The artbooks say that the Hermit Purple lookalike is Jonathan's stand. That said, the fact that Jotaro got Star Platinum would indicate that at least part of The World was also in the Joestar bloodline, so The World might have been fully brought out in combination with Dio's head and belong in part to both Jonathan and Dio.
** Wait, so they ''share'' [[MemeticMutation ZA WARUDO]]?
** Pretty sure it is just a plot-hole. Something that wasn't really fleshed out ahead of time. That is to say that THE WORLD's abilities and appearance probably wouldn't decided at that early stage in the story. No explanation does a satisfactory job of explaining the situation. The closest I can come up with is that Dio was adopted into the Joestar family AND took the body of Jonathan, and as such gets two Joestar stands... or at least one stand with two Joestar powers.
* Can Dio use the Ripple in Part 3, due to getting Jonathan (a very powerful Ripple user's) body?
** It's possible, but due to the fact that Ripple is deadly to vampires, Dio might be unable to use it.
*** The Ripple is channeled through breathing and respiration; when Jonathan got attacked with Dio's Space Ripper Stingy Eyes technique, Jonathan's Ripple had gotten severely weakened and strained. So when Jonathan died from his respiratory system being damaged, the Ripple within him died out with him. I doubt that even if he could, Dio can't use the Ripple because by beheading Jonathan, there would be compatibility issues and complications with using Jonathan's now-broken respiratory system.
*** Dio never learnt to use Hamon, has no reason to use it, and doesn't have the same intuitive understanding knack that Joseph does (he didn't get formal training until later either). Plus he is dead. He doesn't even need to breathe at all.
*** There's no reason to assume Dio can't heal Jonathan's lungs like the rest of his body (and even then the damage was limited to a hole in Jonathan's neck that's clearly no longer there anymore). That being said, with Dio's head, Jonathan's body has the same properties as a vampire's (hence why Dio couldn't just wear a hat that shaded his head from the sun and walk around in the daytime), so given that he could somehow learn how to summon a ripple with the knowledge/muscle memory of Jonathan's body, he would destroy himself like Straits did at the beginning of Part 2. We've never seen someone who was weak to the ripple use the ripple offensively. The only one who came close was Kars, who wasn't weak to sunlight (and thus, no longer weak to the ripple) when he used it.
*** But why would there be a reason for Dio to repair Jonathan's lungs when Dio can survive without breathing when Dio was only just a head. Also even if Dio did repair Jonathan's lungs, the Ripple still wouldn't return back to Jonathan's body because in order for the Ripple to work, it needs the sun's energy absorbed from the user's body through breathing, both a necessity for living beings, which was gone when Jonathan died. Plus Dio is devoid of being alive because he's a lifeless vampire, an antithesis of a living human being.
*** Dio has no idea how the Ripple works or how he would even begin to start practicing it, even if he wanted to (which he doesn't because doing so would almost certainly be fatal to him.) He knows enough about it to fight against it, but no more than that.
** Besides all those points, it is proven that vampires cannot use Hamon because it harms them, Straizo, after becoming a vampire in part 2, performs Hamon-induced suicide simply by channeling some Hamon energy through his body, even if Dio could use Hamon because of Jonathan's body, he likely wouldn't want to.
* Can somebody please explain just what the Ripple is and what it can do? Attempts to do so before have been a bit confusing.
** Extremely simplified, it's the power of life. It allows for manipulation of organic objects (plants, hair strand, people, etc), and it can transmit through inorganic ones like metal. Ripple users are able to weaken/damage vampires/pillar men with it. It is also able to numb pain and even harm normal people in its stronger versions. However, it depends the ripple user's breathing to work.
** The easiest way to explain it is that just as ripples travel through a liquid in the form of waves, so too does energy travel in the form of waves - waves that can move through all physical matter, including water, air and the Hamon user's body (with viscous liquids being the best conductors). Because the human body's respiratory and circulatory systems already work by creating waves and sending them through the bloodstream ([[ArtisticLicenseBiology as far as Araki is concerned, that is]]), Hamon users were able to reverse engineer the wave associated with a very specific type of energy - sunlight - and manifest it in their bodies via a disciplined breathing method which causes energy waves identical to those of the sun to distribute through the bloodstream. These waves can then travel to whatever target the Hamon user intends, with the sunlight energy being an effective form of therapy as well as fighting the undead.
* In part 5, when Bruno used Sticky Fingers to separate Zerucchio's head from his body, no mention is made of ill effects. But when Bruno separates himself into pieces, it's stated that he can't breathe anymore. Is there something different about the two cases? Is it because Bruno separated into so many pieces?
** I believe in that case it's because he separated certain organs in half (lungs or heart?), which apparently is different than separating full body parts. This doesn't really hold up logically considering how many organs are technically separated when removing the neck from the body (throat, brain stem, spine, and even the skin is an organ), but the internal logic seems to be dividing the lungs or heart causes some serious trouble. It isn't Jojo's Logical Adventure, so you do have to suspend quite a bit of belief.
** Don't look too deep into it, it's just much more tense if Bucciarati stacked his life. If Sticky Fingers could stop anyone's heartbeat with a punch he would be too strong.
* What are Kars' arm blades supposed to be made from?
** Bone? Trace minerals?
** It's mentioned that Kar's blades are made from bones. The only reason they don't break when cutting through substances harder than bone is because of the tiny blades moving across their edges.
* Part 8 Josuke has 4 testicles. How is he not constantly aggressive and horny?
** Is that necessarily how that would work? Apparently the removal of one testicle doesn't appreciably ''decrease'' libido. But at any rate, I thought Josuke was getting a little too excited during his fight with Daiya.
* I'm still reading Stone Ocean so this might be a hasty question, but when Jotaro and Jolyne meet, Jolyne acts like she doesn't recognize him, but later claims they met last a few years ago. Surely Jolyne would recognize her own father in that timespan?
** I don't remember this happening and I don't have scans on-hand to check myself, but she could've just been being cold. She hates Jotaro.
* Stardust Crusaders: Wouldn't it have been easier and (somewhat) safer to travel to Cairo using a private plane from the Speedwagon Foundation instead of going on a passenger flight? I mean, that's how they brought Iggy to them.
** Dio was using the Hermit Purple-like Stand to track the movements of Joseph Joestar in particular. If they had tried to use a plane to travel to Egypt, Dio would send one of his followers to interfere like he did when they tried to take a regular airliner there. Every time they tried to ride in a vehicle, one of Dio's minions were able to get involved and stop them. The helicopter was able to make it to Egypt safely because the Speedwagon Foundation wasn't being tracked, and once the helicopter delivered Iggy and met with the group, it was attacked almost immediately after by N'Doul. Vehicles just weren't safe, especially planes that could be fatal if they crashed.
* Most of the time in the series, despite the characters being presented as speaking Japanese, it's obvious what language they're actually speaking (English for part 1, Italian for part 5, etc.). But does Joseph know Japanese? I always assumed he might have picked up some (he mentions being able to read some of the kanji in Hong Kong) but I doubt he's fluent, so most likely all the Stardust Crusaders are speaking English (and Jotaro would obviously pick up English from his American mother), which begs the question of how he's able to speak to anyone in Morioh.
** I personally like to think they were speaking English in Stardust Crusaders, except that Jotaro doesn't know English, which is why he remains silent most of the time (except at the beginning, where he was clearly speaking Japanese, and in Diamond is Unbreakable).
** Damn I like that theory.
** He definitely knows how to speak Japanese. Since he met Josuke's mother before Part 3 it's probably that he was fluent even then. He's a fan of Rohan's work so he can probably read it too. Although it is possible he picked up a copy in some other language.
* Where did FF get the sixth body to disguise itself? Did it just create a fake, or something? It seemed to be shedding out of SOMETHING physical. Also, does it still have someone else's Stand Disc inside it, or did it awaken its own Stand when the Disc fell into it? After all, foreign discs can be knocked out, since they don't actually belong to the users, as shown with McQueen, but nothing like that ever happened to FF.
* This may sound silly but...How does old Joseph mechanical hands always get fixed by the end of the episode? [[{{Narm}} Especially funny]] when Jotaro takes one of his fingers in the first episode and a bit later his hand "regenerates". Is it some kind of RunningGag?
** Given that Joseph had it for the past 50 years, and it is a very advanced prosthetic, he had to have been told how to fix it. But yeah, RuleOfFunny is in play here for the RunningGag.
** Jojo characters, whether made of meat or machinery, tend to have vanishing injuries. Big things like torso-rending slashes can frequently be survived with fast enough healing (long past the point where a real person would be dead), while little things like fingers or eyeballs (I'm looking at you, Anasui) just magically regenerate. Reason? Araki forgets... probably.
* Why was Emporio spared the big reset of the universe? I'm talking about the first one when he was on the dolphin. As far as I recall, there's no explanation as to why he alone was spared the reset aside from Pucci (spared for obvious reasons), so what's the deal?
** His stand, Burning Down the House, acts as a hide-away. It's a memory of a room rather than a ''real'' room (i.e. a physical room in our universe.) Since it's not real, Made In Heaven can't affect it.
** Emporio wasn't "spared the big reset". He survived it. Those who didn't survive were replaced by vaguely similar substitutes, but everyone who survived the process went right back to their original life... but having experienced it all before, they were aware of their future in advance and their actions were locked to their fate. This was the whole point of Pucci's actions throughout Part 6. Emporio at least knew why all this was happening, whereas to anyone else it would be like a strange sense of precognition.
* During the Steely Dan arc in Stardust Crusaders, why didn't Jotaro do something like have Star Platinum dangle Steely Dan over a rooftop, in such a way that all of his limbs were unable to make contact with anything that would hurt his body, letting him just flail helplessly while they got rid of the Lovers in Joseph?
** It seems to be that any physical sensation enacted upon Dan would be felt and amplified on Joseph. This would mean that restraining Dan like this would probably be quite painful to Joseph and possibly cause him injury (depending on how he's held up).
* What happened to Koichi Hirose after the fight with Black Sabbath in Vento Aureo? He just suddenly seems to drop out of the plot with no explanation given.
** No he didn't. Jotaro told him to come back, and Koichi was sure Giorono wasn't evil like Dio, which is what Jotaro was concerned about.
* How come Gold Experience doesn't transform into Gold Experience Requiem early on in Vento Aureo when Black Sabbath holds it down and stabs it with a stand-arrow? I can only surmise it is due to Giorno not having sufficient spiritual growth at that point, or it not being the right stand arrow (the shape of the later one is different)... but it still feels like a ridiculous oversight.
** It's a weekly published manga, Araki didn't plan that much ahead.
* Given that any damage done to life created by Gold Experience is reflected back on the one who delivered it, shouldn't that make any replacement body-parts added by Gold Experience later on impervious to physical harm? Or did Araki just completely forget about this feature of the stand later in the story?
** I think Araki gave this power and the "if Gold Experience punches you, you're slowed down" to Giorno because he would have been way too weak to fight Buccelatti. But yeah after that he just dropped these powers.
* How can an American man, a Middle Eastern man, a French man, and two Japanese teenagers all talk to each other with no problem?
** It's only for the convenience of [[TranslationConvention Japanese viewers/readers]]. It can be assumed all of them easily know a common language, which might be English.
** So, Joseph obviously speaks English as his first language, and isn't all that likely to learn more than the basics of other languages to communicate because that's extra effort. Jotaro probably speaks English just as fluently as he does Japanese because his mother is a native speaker (and since his dad is hardly around..). Since Abdul met Joseph before the rest of the group, and Joseph had no real reason to learn his language (plus Abdul seems like a pretty worldy, smart guy), Abdul probably speaks English well enough. Kakyoin doesn't have a lot of reason to know English because he's apparently completely Japanese and always lived in Japan, but since he travelled with his parents to Egypt (when he met DIO and got possessed), maybe he's good enough at common international languages like English from travelling? Polnareff doesn't have any particular reason to know English, but since it's the most common language of the group and there's no reason for any of them to know French, he must know English, too.
*** Polnareff is French so it isn't hard to imagine he knows English like so many other Europeans.
* When Hol Horse gets hits with his own bullets, those bullets pass through Boingo's Thoth comic book (thus fulfilling the prophecy since the bullets pass through a picture of Jotaro). Since the bullets passed through and damaged the comic, shouldn't Boingo have suffered damage, as well? Or is the comic considered the same as an independent Stand where damage to it doesn't affect the owner?
** The [=JoJo=] Wiki's page of [[http://jojo.wikia.com/wiki/Special_Stand Special Stands]] has a section labeled "Uncontrollable Stand", where Thoth is listed as controlled by fate rather than its user. Could be that imposing one's will on their Stand creates the {{synchronization}} that also causes both to suffer the same damage -- two sides of the same coin.
*** Thoth is also bound to a physical object, and stands that do that are almost always exempt from {{synchronization}} as well. The object the stand is possessing is what is damaged rather than the stand itself.
** The artbooks say that the Hermit Purple lookalike is Jonathan's stand. That said, the fact that Jotaro got Star Platinum would indicate that at least part of The World was also in the Joestar bloodline, so The World might have been fully brought out in combination with Dio's head and belong in part to both Jonathan and Dio.
** Wait, so they ''share'' [[MemeticMutation ZA WARUDO]]?
** Pretty sure it is just a plot-hole. Something that wasn't really fleshed out ahead of time. That is to say that THE WORLD's abilities and appearance probably wouldn't decided at that early stage in the story. No explanation does a satisfactory job of explaining the situation. The closest I can come up with is that Dio was adopted into the Joestar family AND took the body of Jonathan, and as such gets two Joestar stands... or at least one stand with two Joestar powers.
* Can Dio use the Ripple in Part 3, due to getting Jonathan (a very powerful Ripple user's) body?
** It's possible, but due to the fact that Ripple is deadly to vampires, Dio might be unable to use it.
*** The Ripple is channeled through breathing and respiration; when Jonathan got attacked with Dio's Space Ripper Stingy Eyes technique, Jonathan's Ripple had gotten severely weakened and strained. So when Jonathan died from his respiratory system being damaged, the Ripple within him died out with him. I doubt that even if he could, Dio can't use the Ripple because by beheading Jonathan, there would be compatibility issues and complications with using Jonathan's now-broken respiratory system.
*** Dio never learnt to use Hamon, has no reason to use it, and doesn't have the same intuitive understanding knack that Joseph does (he didn't get formal training until later either). Plus he is dead. He doesn't even need to breathe at all.
*** There's no reason to assume Dio can't heal Jonathan's lungs like the rest of his body (and even then the damage was limited to a hole in Jonathan's neck that's clearly no longer there anymore). That being said, with Dio's head, Jonathan's body has the same properties as a vampire's (hence why Dio couldn't just wear a hat that shaded his head from the sun and walk around in the daytime), so given that he could somehow learn how to summon a ripple with the knowledge/muscle memory of Jonathan's body, he would destroy himself like Straits did at the beginning of Part 2. We've never seen someone who was weak to the ripple use the ripple offensively. The only one who came close was Kars, who wasn't weak to sunlight (and thus, no longer weak to the ripple) when he used it.
*** But why would there be a reason for Dio to repair Jonathan's lungs when Dio can survive without breathing when Dio was only just a head. Also even if Dio did repair Jonathan's lungs, the Ripple still wouldn't return back to Jonathan's body because in order for the Ripple to work, it needs the sun's energy absorbed from the user's body through breathing, both a necessity for living beings, which was gone when Jonathan died. Plus Dio is devoid of being alive because he's a lifeless vampire, an antithesis of a living human being.
*** Dio has no idea how the Ripple works or how he would even begin to start practicing it, even if he wanted to (which he doesn't because doing so would almost certainly be fatal to him.) He knows enough about it to fight against it, but no more than that.
** Besides all those points, it is proven that vampires cannot use Hamon because it harms them, Straizo, after becoming a vampire in part 2, performs Hamon-induced suicide simply by channeling some Hamon energy through his body, even if Dio could use Hamon because of Jonathan's body, he likely wouldn't want to.
* Can somebody please explain just what the Ripple is and what it can do? Attempts to do so before have been a bit confusing.
** Extremely simplified, it's the power of life. It allows for manipulation of organic objects (plants, hair strand, people, etc), and it can transmit through inorganic ones like metal. Ripple users are able to weaken/damage vampires/pillar men with it. It is also able to numb pain and even harm normal people in its stronger versions. However, it depends the ripple user's breathing to work.
** The easiest way to explain it is that just as ripples travel through a liquid in the form of waves, so too does energy travel in the form of waves - waves that can move through all physical matter, including water, air and the Hamon user's body (with viscous liquids being the best conductors). Because the human body's respiratory and circulatory systems already work by creating waves and sending them through the bloodstream ([[ArtisticLicenseBiology as far as Araki is concerned, that is]]), Hamon users were able to reverse engineer the wave associated with a very specific type of energy - sunlight - and manifest it in their bodies via a disciplined breathing method which causes energy waves identical to those of the sun to distribute through the bloodstream. These waves can then travel to whatever target the Hamon user intends, with the sunlight energy being an effective form of therapy as well as fighting the undead.
* In part 5, when Bruno used Sticky Fingers to separate Zerucchio's head from his body, no mention is made of ill effects. But when Bruno separates himself into pieces, it's stated that he can't breathe anymore. Is there something different about the two cases? Is it because Bruno separated into so many pieces?
** I believe in that case it's because he separated certain organs in half (lungs or heart?), which apparently is different than separating full body parts. This doesn't really hold up logically considering how many organs are technically separated when removing the neck from the body (throat, brain stem, spine, and even the skin is an organ), but the internal logic seems to be dividing the lungs or heart causes some serious trouble. It isn't Jojo's Logical Adventure, so you do have to suspend quite a bit of belief.
** Don't look too deep into it, it's just much more tense if Bucciarati stacked his life. If Sticky Fingers could stop anyone's heartbeat with a punch he would be too strong.
* What are Kars' arm blades supposed to be made from?
** Bone? Trace minerals?
** It's mentioned that Kar's blades are made from bones. The only reason they don't break when cutting through substances harder than bone is because of the tiny blades moving across their edges.
* Part 8 Josuke has 4 testicles. How is he not constantly aggressive and horny?
** Is that necessarily how that would work? Apparently the removal of one testicle doesn't appreciably ''decrease'' libido. But at any rate, I thought Josuke was getting a little too excited during his fight with Daiya.
* I'm still reading Stone Ocean so this might be a hasty question, but when Jotaro and Jolyne meet, Jolyne acts like she doesn't recognize him, but later claims they met last a few years ago. Surely Jolyne would recognize her own father in that timespan?
** I don't remember this happening and I don't have scans on-hand to check myself, but she could've just been being cold. She hates Jotaro.
* Stardust Crusaders: Wouldn't it have been easier and (somewhat) safer to travel to Cairo using a private plane from the Speedwagon Foundation instead of going on a passenger flight? I mean, that's how they brought Iggy to them.
** Dio was using the Hermit Purple-like Stand to track the movements of Joseph Joestar in particular. If they had tried to use a plane to travel to Egypt, Dio would send one of his followers to interfere like he did when they tried to take a regular airliner there. Every time they tried to ride in a vehicle, one of Dio's minions were able to get involved and stop them. The helicopter was able to make it to Egypt safely because the Speedwagon Foundation wasn't being tracked, and once the helicopter delivered Iggy and met with the group, it was attacked almost immediately after by N'Doul. Vehicles just weren't safe, especially planes that could be fatal if they crashed.
* Most of the time in the series, despite the characters being presented as speaking Japanese, it's obvious what language they're actually speaking (English for part 1, Italian for part 5, etc.). But does Joseph know Japanese? I always assumed he might have picked up some (he mentions being able to read some of the kanji in Hong Kong) but I doubt he's fluent, so most likely all the Stardust Crusaders are speaking English (and Jotaro would obviously pick up English from his American mother), which begs the question of how he's able to speak to anyone in Morioh.
** I personally like to think they were speaking English in Stardust Crusaders, except that Jotaro doesn't know English, which is why he remains silent most of the time (except at the beginning, where he was clearly speaking Japanese, and in Diamond is Unbreakable).
** Damn I like that theory.
** He definitely knows how to speak Japanese. Since he met Josuke's mother before Part 3 it's probably that he was fluent even then. He's a fan of Rohan's work so he can probably read it too. Although it is possible he picked up a copy in some other language.
* Where did FF get the sixth body to disguise itself? Did it just create a fake, or something? It seemed to be shedding out of SOMETHING physical. Also, does it still have someone else's Stand Disc inside it, or did it awaken its own Stand when the Disc fell into it? After all, foreign discs can be knocked out, since they don't actually belong to the users, as shown with McQueen, but nothing like that ever happened to FF.
* This may sound silly but...How does old Joseph mechanical hands always get fixed by the end of the episode? [[{{Narm}} Especially funny]] when Jotaro takes one of his fingers in the first episode and a bit later his hand "regenerates". Is it some kind of RunningGag?
** Given that Joseph had it for the past 50 years, and it is a very advanced prosthetic, he had to have been told how to fix it. But yeah, RuleOfFunny is in play here for the RunningGag.
** Jojo characters, whether made of meat or machinery, tend to have vanishing injuries. Big things like torso-rending slashes can frequently be survived with fast enough healing (long past the point where a real person would be dead), while little things like fingers or eyeballs (I'm looking at you, Anasui) just magically regenerate. Reason? Araki forgets... probably.
* Why was Emporio spared the big reset of the universe? I'm talking about the first one when he was on the dolphin. As far as I recall, there's no explanation as to why he alone was spared the reset aside from Pucci (spared for obvious reasons), so what's the deal?
** His stand, Burning Down the House, acts as a hide-away. It's a memory of a room rather than a ''real'' room (i.e. a physical room in our universe.) Since it's not real, Made In Heaven can't affect it.
** Emporio wasn't "spared the big reset". He survived it. Those who didn't survive were replaced by vaguely similar substitutes, but everyone who survived the process went right back to their original life... but having experienced it all before, they were aware of their future in advance and their actions were locked to their fate. This was the whole point of Pucci's actions throughout Part 6. Emporio at least knew why all this was happening, whereas to anyone else it would be like a strange sense of precognition.
* During the Steely Dan arc in Stardust Crusaders, why didn't Jotaro do something like have Star Platinum dangle Steely Dan over a rooftop, in such a way that all of his limbs were unable to make contact with anything that would hurt his body, letting him just flail helplessly while they got rid of the Lovers in Joseph?
** It seems to be that any physical sensation enacted upon Dan would be felt and amplified on Joseph. This would mean that restraining Dan like this would probably be quite painful to Joseph and possibly cause him injury (depending on how he's held up).
* What happened to Koichi Hirose after the fight with Black Sabbath in Vento Aureo? He just suddenly seems to drop out of the plot with no explanation given.
** No he didn't. Jotaro told him to come back, and Koichi was sure Giorono wasn't evil like Dio, which is what Jotaro was concerned about.
* How come Gold Experience doesn't transform into Gold Experience Requiem early on in Vento Aureo when Black Sabbath holds it down and stabs it with a stand-arrow? I can only surmise it is due to Giorno not having sufficient spiritual growth at that point, or it not being the right stand arrow (the shape of the later one is different)... but it still feels like a ridiculous oversight.
** It's a weekly published manga, Araki didn't plan that much ahead.
* Given that any damage done to life created by Gold Experience is reflected back on the one who delivered it, shouldn't that make any replacement body-parts added by Gold Experience later on impervious to physical harm? Or did Araki just completely forget about this feature of the stand later in the story?
** I think Araki gave this power and the "if Gold Experience punches you, you're slowed down" to Giorno because he would have been way too weak to fight Buccelatti. But yeah after that he just dropped these powers.
* How can an American man, a Middle Eastern man, a French man, and two Japanese teenagers all talk to each other with no problem?
** It's only for the convenience of [[TranslationConvention Japanese viewers/readers]]. It can be assumed all of them easily know a common language, which might be English.
** So, Joseph obviously speaks English as his first language, and isn't all that likely to learn more than the basics of other languages to communicate because that's extra effort. Jotaro probably speaks English just as fluently as he does Japanese because his mother is a native speaker (and since his dad is hardly around..). Since Abdul met Joseph before the rest of the group, and Joseph had no real reason to learn his language (plus Abdul seems like a pretty worldy, smart guy), Abdul probably speaks English well enough. Kakyoin doesn't have a lot of reason to know English because he's apparently completely Japanese and always lived in Japan, but since he travelled with his parents to Egypt (when he met DIO and got possessed), maybe he's good enough at common international languages like English from travelling? Polnareff doesn't have any particular reason to know English, but since it's the most common language of the group and there's no reason for any of them to know French, he must know English, too.
*** Polnareff is French so it isn't hard to imagine he knows English like so many other Europeans.
* When Hol Horse gets hits with his own bullets, those bullets pass through Boingo's Thoth comic book (thus fulfilling the prophecy since the bullets pass through a picture of Jotaro). Since the bullets passed through and damaged the comic, shouldn't Boingo have suffered damage, as well? Or is the comic considered the same as an independent Stand where damage to it doesn't affect the owner?
** The [=JoJo=] Wiki's page of [[http://jojo.wikia.com/wiki/Special_Stand Special Stands]] has a section labeled "Uncontrollable Stand", where Thoth is listed as controlled by fate rather than its user. Could be that imposing one's will on their Stand creates the {{synchronization}} that also causes both to suffer the same damage -- two sides of the same coin.
*** Thoth is also bound to a physical object, and stands that do that are almost always exempt from {{synchronization}} as well. The object the stand is possessing is what is damaged rather than the stand itself.
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*** Based on the fact that a barely formed Star Platinum stopped a bullet at the beginning of Part 3, at point blank range, suggests to me that most stands should be able to easily react to bullets, especially if they are fired from a long distance, giving the user time to react. Keep in mind, Jotaro didn't even have proper control of SP at the time, so fully motivated stand users should have better speed than his. The only reason Mista and Hol Horse can make it work is because they can manipulate the speed and trajectory of their bullets, something you can't do with a short ranged stand. The only time I could imagine that working is if DIO or Jotaro did it during a time stop, but stand punches are far more effective, especially if you don't need to keep your distance like DIO did with Jotaro.
* Of all of Josuke's "make money quick" schemes, did he never think of opening a "repair anything" business and use Crazy Diamond's power to make loads of easy money? ranging from electronics to cluttery to even family heirlooms like old feudal weapons, he can fix anything to prime condition in seconds, and here he wouldn't be scamming anyone like when he tried to cheat Rohan out of his money or having to literally fight Shigechi to near death to get his rightful share of a lottery ticket, he could even enlist Okuyasu's help to play the role of clerk to make it seem he is constantly busy working and make it less suspicious, and it is not like he would be the only one in town running a Stand-based business, both Tonio and Doctor Aya did similar, so why not?
** The operative words here are "make money quick". Josuke is a teenager, and as smart and mature as he is, he still doesn't think like an adult. He probably considers something like that boring or that it would take way too much time. And seeing as he is still a teenager, who's gonna actually buy this service from him?
* When Rohan used Heaven's Door on Hayato, how did he see the memories of things that were about to happen? I get that it was meant to be a part of Bites The Dust's time looping effect, but he hadn't gone back in time from that point when Rohan first got to him so he shouldn't have known about those things.
* Of all of Josuke's "make money quick" schemes, did he never think of opening a "repair anything" business and use Crazy Diamond's power to make loads of easy money? ranging from electronics to cluttery to even family heirlooms like old feudal weapons, he can fix anything to prime condition in seconds, and here he wouldn't be scamming anyone like when he tried to cheat Rohan out of his money or having to literally fight Shigechi to near death to get his rightful share of a lottery ticket, he could even enlist Okuyasu's help to play the role of clerk to make it seem he is constantly busy working and make it less suspicious, and it is not like he would be the only one in town running a Stand-based business, both Tonio and Doctor Aya did similar, so why not?
** The operative words here are "make money quick". Josuke is a teenager, and as smart and mature as he is, he still doesn't think like an adult. He probably considers something like that boring or that it would take way too much time. And seeing as he is still a teenager, who's gonna actually buy this service from him?
* When Rohan used Heaven's Door on Hayato, how did he see the memories of things that were about to happen? I get that it was meant to be a part of Bites The Dust's time looping effect, but he hadn't gone back in time from that point when Rohan first got to him so he shouldn't have known about those things.
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*** Based on the fact that a barely formed Star Platinum stopped a bullet at the beginning of Part 3, at point blank range, suggests to me that most stands should be able to easily react to bullets, especially if they are fired from a long distance, giving the user time to react. Keep in mind, Jotaro didn't even have proper control of SP at the time, so fully motivated stand users should have better speed than his. The only reason Mista and Hol Horse can make it work is because they can manipulate the speed and trajectory of their bullets, something you can't do with a short ranged stand. The only time I could imagine that working is if DIO or Jotaro did it during a time stop, but stand punches are far more effective, especially if you don't need to keep your distance like DIO did with Jotaro. \n* Of all of Josuke's "make money quick" schemes, did he never think of opening a "repair anything" business and use Crazy Diamond's power to make loads of easy money? ranging from electronics to cluttery to even family heirlooms like old feudal weapons, he can fix anything to prime condition in seconds, and here he wouldn't be scamming anyone like when he tried to cheat Rohan out of his money or having to literally fight Shigechi to near death to get his rightful share of a lottery ticket, he could even enlist Okuyasu's help to play the role of clerk to make it seem he is constantly busy working and make it less suspicious, and it is not like he would be the only one in town running a Stand-based business, both Tonio and Doctor Aya did similar, so why not?\n** The operative words here are "make money quick". Josuke is a teenager, and as smart and mature as he is, he still doesn't think like an adult. He probably considers something like that boring or that it would take way too much time. And seeing as he is still a teenager, who's gonna actually buy this service from him?\n* When Rohan used Heaven's Door on Hayato, how did he see the memories of things that were about to happen? I get that it was meant to be a part of Bites The Dust's time looping effect, but he hadn't gone back in time from that point when Rohan first got to him so he shouldn't have known about those things.
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* Why do most of the characters refer to their spirits as "Stands"? Jotaro does so after hearing Joseph referring to his as such, but Dio, J. Geil, Polnareff, etc.. etc.. weren't there to hear the term being invented. Aaying they got it from Dio just raises the question how he learned of it.
** Joseph didn't invent the term, he probably learned it from Abdul. In fact, most Stand users from Part 3 have at least a passing knowledge of others (Abdul knew about Tower of Gray and aboout Devo's reputation, and Devo was aware that J. Geil, another professional assassin, had a Stand -- though he didn't know what it was).
** The Stand is a really really obscure mythology thing, it's like a spirit of death that stays beside you all your life and takes the shape of your ideas on life; these guys just can control them. It is something really old. They are called "hours" or Oras.
* Where do Stand names come from?
** They're assigned a name by someone, be it themselves or someone else (e.g. Avdol naming Star Platinum). There's more to imply that the user consciously decides to name his stand as opposed to instinctively knowing what its true name is.
*** However, what about the Tarot and Egyptian God series? They are specifically treated as being part of a set that had to do with their power. However, Anubis existed for centuries, long before any of the other Egyptian named ones, and how is it that while Stands have been around for so long, the Star card wasn't used until Jotaro?
** A few other characters name their stands -- Jolyne comes up with "Stone Free" on her own, and I think Pucci named "Stairway to Heaven". Some, like Spice Girl, name themselves.
** Araki. He names them. If you're looking for an in-universe reason why the Major Arcana of the Tarot Deck are conveniently distributed and everyone knows their card... let alone why all the later ones are named after bands / albums... there probably isn't one.
** Joseph didn't invent the term, he probably learned it from Abdul. In fact, most Stand users from Part 3 have at least a passing knowledge of others (Abdul knew about Tower of Gray and aboout Devo's reputation, and Devo was aware that J. Geil, another professional assassin, had a Stand -- though he didn't know what it was).
** The Stand is a really really obscure mythology thing, it's like a spirit of death that stays beside you all your life and takes the shape of your ideas on life; these guys just can control them. It is something really old. They are called "hours" or Oras.
* Where do Stand names come from?
** They're assigned a name by someone, be it themselves or someone else (e.g. Avdol naming Star Platinum). There's more to imply that the user consciously decides to name his stand as opposed to instinctively knowing what its true name is.
*** However, what about the Tarot and Egyptian God series? They are specifically treated as being part of a set that had to do with their power. However, Anubis existed for centuries, long before any of the other Egyptian named ones, and how is it that while Stands have been around for so long, the Star card wasn't used until Jotaro?
** A few other characters name their stands -- Jolyne comes up with "Stone Free" on her own, and I think Pucci named "Stairway to Heaven". Some, like Spice Girl, name themselves.
** Araki. He names them. If you're looking for an in-universe reason why the Major Arcana of the Tarot Deck are conveniently distributed and everyone knows their card... let alone why all the later ones are named after bands / albums... there probably isn't one.
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* It seems that everybody in SBR has at least some passing knowledge about the bible, seeing as everybody can make the connection between corpse parts and a saint. Still, if by the end of the series it's quite obvious they belong to Jesus Christ, how come nobody asks just why are his body parts all over the U.S. if the bible states his death didn't quite take?
** Because that death happened on another continent, the corpse parts are from his death after reviving and living out the rest of his life.
** Quo Vadis??? It's in the bible man. Besides, the idea is to unite west and east; saint corpses are a Buddhist thing.
*** OP here. I know just how Jesus managed to get his body parts all over America, the narration makes that quite clear. Except nobody else knows, in-story.
*** No one knows that it is Jesus Funny knows that it attracts people and that is all he cares.
** If it helps at all, according to the Jorge Joestar light novel, [[spoiler:The Saint Corpse might not actually belong to Jesus, but to Dio from the original timeline]]
** Medieval Christianity is filled with relics of saints - bones, corpses and other remains that are believed to heal the sick, bless pilgrims and the like. Someone could easily believe in a saint's corpse without assuming it belonged to Christ.
** In the Book of Mormon Jesus visited the Americas after his resurrection, it's a pretty substantial part of it. Maybe here Mormons were right?
* In Phantom Blood, the man Dio tests the Stone Mask on "destroys his own bones and muscles" because the power unlocked within him is too strong to be contained by a human body. However, when Dio dons the Stone Mask, his body isn't damaged when he crushes bricks with his fingers and other superhuman feats. Why is he able to do so?
** He uses it on an old man, whereas Dio is not only in his prime, he's ripped. The Test doesn't get restored youth and vigor until he starts drinking Dio's blood, so it's possible his bones were simply too fragile to handle the force applied to them, while Dio drinks from 2 people immediately upon transforming.
** Have you seen his Muscles? He is ripping out of his own clothes already. Also Fate!
** But Dio has never punched anything so hard: that guy probably used so much force that even his body couldn't take it, or since he only did it seconds after transformation, it takes a little time for the transformation to be complete.
** Maybe he does... and then heals himself. You know, due to having complete control over every part of his body.
* In chapter three of Battle Tendency, Erina and Joseph tell Smokey about the history of their family. They tell him that Erina saved a child from a sinking ship, and that this child and her own son married and had Joseph together. Later on, near the end of the series, Lisa Lisa reveals to Joseph that she was the child that Erina saved from the sinking ship. How come Joseph doesn't realize right away that this means Lisa Lisa is his mother?
** Joseph is clever, not smart. And lucky. But foremost he isn't smart. Caesar on the other hand...
** Gee, maybe he's a little distracted by FIGHTING WAMUU at the time?
** Denial - let's remember that Joseph had't been having the most wholesome of thoughts towards Lisa Lisa up to that point.
* Why do most of the characters refer to their spirits as "Stands"? Jotaro does so after hearing Joseph referring to his as such, but Dio, J. Geil, Polnareff, etc.. etc.. weren't there to hear the term being invented. Aaying they got it from Dio just raises the question how he learned of it.
** Joseph didn't invent the term, he probably learned it from Abdul. In fact, most Stand users from Part 3 have at least a passing knowledge of others (Abdul knew about Tower of Gray and aboout Devo's reputation, and Devo was aware that J. Geil, another professional assassin, had a Stand -- though he didn't know what it was).
** The Stand is a really really obscure mythology thing, it's like a spirit of death that stays beside you all your life and takes the shape of your ideas on life; these guys just can control them. It is something really old. They are called "hours" or Oras.
*** Do you have a source?
* What does Magenta Magenta have in common with Cars other than [[spoiler:their fates]]? The Jojo wiki lists him as the SBR world's equivalent to Cars, but I don't really see it.
** Magenta and Wekapipo are the equivalent to Dire (Wekapipo) and Straitz (Magenta). Wekapipo uses a Zepelli technique, [[spoiler:joins the heroes, and gets killed by Dio]].
* When did Hot Pants die? I think it was AU Hot Pants. The real one was left behind.
** AU Hot Pants was returned to her world at the same time that the AU Dio with her was. The original Hot Pants died just as Lucy Steel developed her Stand.
* When Angelo killed Ryohei, why didn't Jotaro try to restart his heart like with Joseph Joestar at the end of Stardust Crusaders?
** Most likely Angelo probably killed Ryohei and/or stopped Ryohei's heart too quickly and too fatally for Jotaro's Star Platinum to make a difference.
** I don't think Star Platinum can pass through other Stand Users' bodies. No other Stand can do so, after all, unless it has that specific ability.
** Except that was exactly what Star Platinum did to Joseph in order to restart his heart at the end of Part 3.
** Well, Star Platinum probably grew weaker as Jotaro aged. After all, his Stand was considerably weakened by the events of Part 6.
** Star Platinum was weakened by a heart condition caused by Jotaro overusing Star Platinum: The World while hunting down evil Stand users for the past couple decades(something that was never an issue for DIO since his vampiric regeneration fixed any harm The World caused on him), it did not grow weak simply because he was older, had he not used the time stop as much or at all, Star Platinum would've been fine, plus, the heart condition hadn't kicked in yet in Diamond is Unbreakable, being still stated having the shining A in Durability during part 4.
* How much did the fight with Magenta and Wekapipo last? From the wolf, it seemed it was just 3 minutes.
* So, where did Stroheim get all those Mexican prisoners? Did his men just kick down the doors of some poor little village and drag people into cells with the intent of slaughtering them for Santana chow?
** Considering that they seem to be a bunch of people who know each other and are of varying ages (i.e. they weren't going to various places asking for teenage boys, for example), yes, I think that was the implication.
* Speaking of Stroheim, why does he have a sight on his machine gun on his abs, where it would do no good, and would be redundant when he has one as a monocle?
** It's possible the gun used on him wasn't custom-made, but rather repurposed from some other application, and the sight simply wasn't removed because it wasn't doing any harm.
* Why is Johnny the only Joestar without a star-shaped birthmark?
** This may be addressed in-universe in ''[=JoJolion=]''.
*** He might have one, but it wasn't shown. I don't think Josuke (Part 4) was shown having one either.
*** At least in the anime, he is shown having one, abeit very briefly, when he was taking his clothes off to put in the laundry for the day.
* How did Cars manage to kill the other members of his race? They are only weak to sunlight and the ripple, but they can just turn to stone to avoid dying from the former and Cars couldn't use the latter until the end of Part 2.
** It's possible that they can just die from enough abuse (for an example from another work, [[Comicbook/TheDeathOfSuperman the supposedly invulnerable Superman was beaten to death]]) or there's some special Pillar Man poison, or something else.
** Because of the stone masks. The original Pillar Men were just extremely tough/strong long-lived humanoids who couldn't survive under sunlight. All the body modification and absorption powers are a result of the use of a stone mask (they could only partially unlock a Pillar Man's potential without the Stone of Aja, however).
** Pillar Men probably have their own way of killing each other, like humans have special ways of killing humans. These methods aren't really relevant to fighting humans though, so they don't come into play in the story.
* Where do Stand names come from?
** They're assigned a name by someone, be it themselves or someone else (e.g. Avdol naming Star Platinum). There's more to imply that the user consciously decides to name his stand as opposed to instinctively knowing what its true name is.
*** However, what about the Tarot and Egyptian God series? They are specifically treated as being part of a set that had to do with their power. However, Anubis existed for centuries, long before any of the other Egyptian named ones, and how is it that while Stands have been around for so long, the Star card wasn't used until Jotaro?
** A few other characters name their stands -- Jolyne comes up with "Stone Free" on her own, and I think Pucci named "Stairway to Heaven". Some, like Spice Girl, name themselves.
** Araki. He names them. If you're looking for an in-universe reason why the Major Arcana of the Tarot Deck are conveniently distributed and everyone knows their card... let alone why all the later ones are named after bands / albums... there probably isn't one.
* Why Doesn't Rohan just use Heavens Door to see how Josuke is cheating?
** Because he has occasional obsessive asshole tendencies.
** Rohan is rich. He wouldn't care if he loses a couple of dollars to a teen.
** Rohan's ego prevented him from taking the "easy" way out. He wanted to figure it out on his own.
*** This is the most likely answer, for Rohan it wasn't about the money, he has more money than he can figure out what to do with it(when he isn't bankrupt due to buying a brand new mountain range, that is), it was about the battle of wits between him and Josuke that he felt he was losing, it was never about the money.
** Because Josuke wouldn't have let him?
* Why don't they use Hermit Purple to track Yoshikage Kira when he disappears?
** Part 4 Joseph may be too senile to summon his Stand any more.
** But he managed to use it to get a picture of Angelo and to capture Shizuka.
* Why didn't Rohan force -- or use Heaven's Door to command -- Josuke to fix his house?
** I actually thought about it and realized it would be too conspicuous.
** Because Rohan's hatred for Josuke (and shame at having lost) at that point was too strong to ask him to repair the damage.
* Why didn't they take Shizuka to the police?
** "Hi, I'd like to turn in this baby I found. Please ignore the fact that she may turn invisble at any given moment due to a spirit that she can't control. Also, don't cause any media attention, we like to keep spirits like this a secret. Wait, why am I being put in handcuffs?"
* Where did Joseph get a dress from in the middle of the desert?
** He made it from surrounding plants? He found it on the way? He was carrying around? Who knows.
** Considering that he carries around ''grenades and a Tommy gun'' with him, a dress isn't out of the question.
** Maybe the women working for the Germans were living nearby. Joseph found a dress somewhere in their camp/village/whatever, and "borrowed" it.
** Because that death happened on another continent, the corpse parts are from his death after reviving and living out the rest of his life.
** Quo Vadis??? It's in the bible man. Besides, the idea is to unite west and east; saint corpses are a Buddhist thing.
*** OP here. I know just how Jesus managed to get his body parts all over America, the narration makes that quite clear. Except nobody else knows, in-story.
*** No one knows that it is Jesus Funny knows that it attracts people and that is all he cares.
** If it helps at all, according to the Jorge Joestar light novel, [[spoiler:The Saint Corpse might not actually belong to Jesus, but to Dio from the original timeline]]
** Medieval Christianity is filled with relics of saints - bones, corpses and other remains that are believed to heal the sick, bless pilgrims and the like. Someone could easily believe in a saint's corpse without assuming it belonged to Christ.
** In the Book of Mormon Jesus visited the Americas after his resurrection, it's a pretty substantial part of it. Maybe here Mormons were right?
* In Phantom Blood, the man Dio tests the Stone Mask on "destroys his own bones and muscles" because the power unlocked within him is too strong to be contained by a human body. However, when Dio dons the Stone Mask, his body isn't damaged when he crushes bricks with his fingers and other superhuman feats. Why is he able to do so?
** He uses it on an old man, whereas Dio is not only in his prime, he's ripped. The Test doesn't get restored youth and vigor until he starts drinking Dio's blood, so it's possible his bones were simply too fragile to handle the force applied to them, while Dio drinks from 2 people immediately upon transforming.
** Have you seen his Muscles? He is ripping out of his own clothes already. Also Fate!
** But Dio has never punched anything so hard: that guy probably used so much force that even his body couldn't take it, or since he only did it seconds after transformation, it takes a little time for the transformation to be complete.
** Maybe he does... and then heals himself. You know, due to having complete control over every part of his body.
* In chapter three of Battle Tendency, Erina and Joseph tell Smokey about the history of their family. They tell him that Erina saved a child from a sinking ship, and that this child and her own son married and had Joseph together. Later on, near the end of the series, Lisa Lisa reveals to Joseph that she was the child that Erina saved from the sinking ship. How come Joseph doesn't realize right away that this means Lisa Lisa is his mother?
** Joseph is clever, not smart. And lucky. But foremost he isn't smart. Caesar on the other hand...
** Gee, maybe he's a little distracted by FIGHTING WAMUU at the time?
** Denial - let's remember that Joseph had't been having the most wholesome of thoughts towards Lisa Lisa up to that point.
* Why do most of the characters refer to their spirits as "Stands"? Jotaro does so after hearing Joseph referring to his as such, but Dio, J. Geil, Polnareff, etc.. etc.. weren't there to hear the term being invented. Aaying they got it from Dio just raises the question how he learned of it.
** Joseph didn't invent the term, he probably learned it from Abdul. In fact, most Stand users from Part 3 have at least a passing knowledge of others (Abdul knew about Tower of Gray and aboout Devo's reputation, and Devo was aware that J. Geil, another professional assassin, had a Stand -- though he didn't know what it was).
** The Stand is a really really obscure mythology thing, it's like a spirit of death that stays beside you all your life and takes the shape of your ideas on life; these guys just can control them. It is something really old. They are called "hours" or Oras.
*** Do you have a source?
* What does Magenta Magenta have in common with Cars other than [[spoiler:their fates]]? The Jojo wiki lists him as the SBR world's equivalent to Cars, but I don't really see it.
** Magenta and Wekapipo are the equivalent to Dire (Wekapipo) and Straitz (Magenta). Wekapipo uses a Zepelli technique, [[spoiler:joins the heroes, and gets killed by Dio]].
* When did Hot Pants die? I think it was AU Hot Pants. The real one was left behind.
** AU Hot Pants was returned to her world at the same time that the AU Dio with her was. The original Hot Pants died just as Lucy Steel developed her Stand.
* When Angelo killed Ryohei, why didn't Jotaro try to restart his heart like with Joseph Joestar at the end of Stardust Crusaders?
** Most likely Angelo probably killed Ryohei and/or stopped Ryohei's heart too quickly and too fatally for Jotaro's Star Platinum to make a difference.
** I don't think Star Platinum can pass through other Stand Users' bodies. No other Stand can do so, after all, unless it has that specific ability.
** Except that was exactly what Star Platinum did to Joseph in order to restart his heart at the end of Part 3.
** Well, Star Platinum probably grew weaker as Jotaro aged. After all, his Stand was considerably weakened by the events of Part 6.
** Star Platinum was weakened by a heart condition caused by Jotaro overusing Star Platinum: The World while hunting down evil Stand users for the past couple decades(something that was never an issue for DIO since his vampiric regeneration fixed any harm The World caused on him), it did not grow weak simply because he was older, had he not used the time stop as much or at all, Star Platinum would've been fine, plus, the heart condition hadn't kicked in yet in Diamond is Unbreakable, being still stated having the shining A in Durability during part 4.
* How much did the fight with Magenta and Wekapipo last? From the wolf, it seemed it was just 3 minutes.
* So, where did Stroheim get all those Mexican prisoners? Did his men just kick down the doors of some poor little village and drag people into cells with the intent of slaughtering them for Santana chow?
** Considering that they seem to be a bunch of people who know each other and are of varying ages (i.e. they weren't going to various places asking for teenage boys, for example), yes, I think that was the implication.
* Speaking of Stroheim, why does he have a sight on his machine gun on his abs, where it would do no good, and would be redundant when he has one as a monocle?
** It's possible the gun used on him wasn't custom-made, but rather repurposed from some other application, and the sight simply wasn't removed because it wasn't doing any harm.
* Why is Johnny the only Joestar without a star-shaped birthmark?
** This may be addressed in-universe in ''[=JoJolion=]''.
*** He might have one, but it wasn't shown. I don't think Josuke (Part 4) was shown having one either.
*** At least in the anime, he is shown having one, abeit very briefly, when he was taking his clothes off to put in the laundry for the day.
* How did Cars manage to kill the other members of his race? They are only weak to sunlight and the ripple, but they can just turn to stone to avoid dying from the former and Cars couldn't use the latter until the end of Part 2.
** It's possible that they can just die from enough abuse (for an example from another work, [[Comicbook/TheDeathOfSuperman the supposedly invulnerable Superman was beaten to death]]) or there's some special Pillar Man poison, or something else.
** Because of the stone masks. The original Pillar Men were just extremely tough/strong long-lived humanoids who couldn't survive under sunlight. All the body modification and absorption powers are a result of the use of a stone mask (they could only partially unlock a Pillar Man's potential without the Stone of Aja, however).
** Pillar Men probably have their own way of killing each other, like humans have special ways of killing humans. These methods aren't really relevant to fighting humans though, so they don't come into play in the story.
* Where do Stand names come from?
** They're assigned a name by someone, be it themselves or someone else (e.g. Avdol naming Star Platinum). There's more to imply that the user consciously decides to name his stand as opposed to instinctively knowing what its true name is.
*** However, what about the Tarot and Egyptian God series? They are specifically treated as being part of a set that had to do with their power. However, Anubis existed for centuries, long before any of the other Egyptian named ones, and how is it that while Stands have been around for so long, the Star card wasn't used until Jotaro?
** A few other characters name their stands -- Jolyne comes up with "Stone Free" on her own, and I think Pucci named "Stairway to Heaven". Some, like Spice Girl, name themselves.
** Araki. He names them. If you're looking for an in-universe reason why the Major Arcana of the Tarot Deck are conveniently distributed and everyone knows their card... let alone why all the later ones are named after bands / albums... there probably isn't one.
* Why Doesn't Rohan just use Heavens Door to see how Josuke is cheating?
** Because he has occasional obsessive asshole tendencies.
** Rohan is rich. He wouldn't care if he loses a couple of dollars to a teen.
** Rohan's ego prevented him from taking the "easy" way out. He wanted to figure it out on his own.
*** This is the most likely answer, for Rohan it wasn't about the money, he has more money than he can figure out what to do with it(when he isn't bankrupt due to buying a brand new mountain range, that is), it was about the battle of wits between him and Josuke that he felt he was losing, it was never about the money.
** Because Josuke wouldn't have let him?
* Why don't they use Hermit Purple to track Yoshikage Kira when he disappears?
** Part 4 Joseph may be too senile to summon his Stand any more.
** But he managed to use it to get a picture of Angelo and to capture Shizuka.
* Why didn't Rohan force -- or use Heaven's Door to command -- Josuke to fix his house?
** I actually thought about it and realized it would be too conspicuous.
** Because Rohan's hatred for Josuke (and shame at having lost) at that point was too strong to ask him to repair the damage.
* Why didn't they take Shizuka to the police?
** "Hi, I'd like to turn in this baby I found. Please ignore the fact that she may turn invisble at any given moment due to a spirit that she can't control. Also, don't cause any media attention, we like to keep spirits like this a secret. Wait, why am I being put in handcuffs?"
* Where did Joseph get a dress from in the middle of the desert?
** He made it from surrounding plants? He found it on the way? He was carrying around? Who knows.
** Considering that he carries around ''grenades and a Tommy gun'' with him, a dress isn't out of the question.
** Maybe the women working for the Germans were living nearby. Joseph found a dress somewhere in their camp/village/whatever, and "borrowed" it.
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* The way that Joseph lost the bet against D'arby the Gambler, which was based on not spilling water. When there's no evidence that Stand users can necessarily see the Ripple energy and one of the things he learned to do when he first started training in Hamon was how to make water keep its shape even if you turn the glass upside down or break it. That... that really bugged me.
** And then there was the problem with the Lovers trying to implant a Dio spore into the body of a preternaturally talented Ripple user. Come to think of it, the entire dearth of Ripple usage on Joseph's part. Stands may be the only things that can harm other Stands, but normal objects can at least block and distract them and I can't help but think that Hamon'd be really useful when dealing with the users. Stuff like the Jojo Crackers could have really helped improve his offensive game and the various water tricks would have been really helpful against Dark Blue Moon, Geb, and D'arby, as well as possibly shielding him from Justice. And if he learned his mother's Ripple Hypnotism, he would have a much less complicated method for interrogating any captured Stand users.
** By his own admission, Joseph doesn't use Ripple much in Part 3 because he's out of practice.
*** Which doesn't really make sense since he has been hunting down a very dangerous opponent whose most easily exploitable weakness is the Ripple for the last three years, and he was using the Ripple even before he was trained and only took a few weeks of intense training to reach the level where he could fight a monster like Esidisi on relatively even grounds.
*** A few weeks of intense training using a magical pillar that might not even be standing any more.
*** Again, he had 3 years to practice, a good knowledge of the basics of the Ripple, and if necessary, the money needed to buy a ''submarine'' on short notice should be just fine for recreating the pillar of oil that had no notable magical properties. Especially since the Speedwagon Foundation is more than happy to help the Jojos in any way possible and know how to get in touch with the Ripple school.
*** He didn't need to eat, drink, or sleep when he was on the pillar of oil. It's magic.
*** I think Joseph and Caesar were kept alive by Hamon, they repeatedly reference that students have died in pillar and Caesar is visibly concerned of the possibility of Joseph starving to death.
** I was also bothered a lot by it. Regardless of in-character reasons, it was jarring seeing the man who defeated Esidisi and Wammu having such a hard time with some of the Stand users.
** He had to be touching the water in some way to keep it from spilling; the water level was just so high that it was impossible to not spill on its own.
** I have always liked to pretend that Cars' final battle with Joseph collapsed one of his lungs. If you assume that, the fact he can use even a weak Ripple becomes amazing, and the fact that he never uses a strong one ceases to be annoying.
*** Joseph lost a ''forearm'' in that fight. He'd be bound to take it easy afterwards. And he's never been all ''that'' strong.
** Joseph, for all his badassery, is established to be naturally lazy. He wasn't particularly ambitious in terms of ripple-use (he's never particularly powerful, even at his peak), and after the bullshit with the Pillar Men, huge recuperation time, and subsequent marriage, it's safe to assume that he was done with adventuring. Joseph as we see him in Stardust Crusaders still totes his sense of responsibility and competence that he learned in Battle Tendency, but he's still an old man reluctant to come out of retirement, even if he is pursuing Dio. He doesn't have to start being active until they reach Egypt.
** It's important to note that the Pillar Men were a very different beast from Dio and the Stand users. The Pillar Men, barring Kars, were extremely honorable and all of them, including Kars, had exploitable personalities that Joseph was able to empathize with very well. He had no preparation for Dio's antics or henchmen, and never met Dio himself until the very end. Joseph never resorted to the Ripple as a first resort in the past, and always used it when manipulating the Pillar Men into openings. The Stands were too predatory and evasive for it. His very focused and opportunistic style likely just dulled inclination for the very disciplined Ripple in favor of the more fast and loose Hermit Purple.
* In short, he did the smart thing and lived the good life for decades, and now that he wants to do the responsible thing, he's paying for it.
* Okay, so how exactly is Steel Ball Run related to the main [=JoJo=] universe? Is it an alternate reality? Is it the new history that was created after [[spoiler:Pucci's]] universe reset? Is it just happening at the same time as Part 1, but with characters that coincidentally have similar names? So confusing...
** I'm pretty sure it's the new history after the universal reset.
* Why does everyone keep the existence of Hamon, vampires, cyborgs, Stands, ghosts, and aliens hidden from the general public (at least in Parts 1-5; I haven't read Part 6 yet)? No one ever really gives a reason. There are obvious reasons why Passione doesn't tell the world about Stands, of course, but there's no real reason why the heroes of Parts 1-4 keep all the supernatural stuff a secret, and even less of a reason why some of the minor characters in Part 4 do so.
** And then there was the problem with the Lovers trying to implant a Dio spore into the body of a preternaturally talented Ripple user. Come to think of it, the entire dearth of Ripple usage on Joseph's part. Stands may be the only things that can harm other Stands, but normal objects can at least block and distract them and I can't help but think that Hamon'd be really useful when dealing with the users. Stuff like the Jojo Crackers could have really helped improve his offensive game and the various water tricks would have been really helpful against Dark Blue Moon, Geb, and D'arby, as well as possibly shielding him from Justice. And if he learned his mother's Ripple Hypnotism, he would have a much less complicated method for interrogating any captured Stand users.
** By his own admission, Joseph doesn't use Ripple much in Part 3 because he's out of practice.
*** Which doesn't really make sense since he has been hunting down a very dangerous opponent whose most easily exploitable weakness is the Ripple for the last three years, and he was using the Ripple even before he was trained and only took a few weeks of intense training to reach the level where he could fight a monster like Esidisi on relatively even grounds.
*** A few weeks of intense training using a magical pillar that might not even be standing any more.
*** Again, he had 3 years to practice, a good knowledge of the basics of the Ripple, and if necessary, the money needed to buy a ''submarine'' on short notice should be just fine for recreating the pillar of oil that had no notable magical properties. Especially since the Speedwagon Foundation is more than happy to help the Jojos in any way possible and know how to get in touch with the Ripple school.
*** He didn't need to eat, drink, or sleep when he was on the pillar of oil. It's magic.
*** I think Joseph and Caesar were kept alive by Hamon, they repeatedly reference that students have died in pillar and Caesar is visibly concerned of the possibility of Joseph starving to death.
** I was also bothered a lot by it. Regardless of in-character reasons, it was jarring seeing the man who defeated Esidisi and Wammu having such a hard time with some of the Stand users.
** He had to be touching the water in some way to keep it from spilling; the water level was just so high that it was impossible to not spill on its own.
** I have always liked to pretend that Cars' final battle with Joseph collapsed one of his lungs. If you assume that, the fact he can use even a weak Ripple becomes amazing, and the fact that he never uses a strong one ceases to be annoying.
*** Joseph lost a ''forearm'' in that fight. He'd be bound to take it easy afterwards. And he's never been all ''that'' strong.
** Joseph, for all his badassery, is established to be naturally lazy. He wasn't particularly ambitious in terms of ripple-use (he's never particularly powerful, even at his peak), and after the bullshit with the Pillar Men, huge recuperation time, and subsequent marriage, it's safe to assume that he was done with adventuring. Joseph as we see him in Stardust Crusaders still totes his sense of responsibility and competence that he learned in Battle Tendency, but he's still an old man reluctant to come out of retirement, even if he is pursuing Dio. He doesn't have to start being active until they reach Egypt.
** It's important to note that the Pillar Men were a very different beast from Dio and the Stand users. The Pillar Men, barring Kars, were extremely honorable and all of them, including Kars, had exploitable personalities that Joseph was able to empathize with very well. He had no preparation for Dio's antics or henchmen, and never met Dio himself until the very end. Joseph never resorted to the Ripple as a first resort in the past, and always used it when manipulating the Pillar Men into openings. The Stands were too predatory and evasive for it. His very focused and opportunistic style likely just dulled inclination for the very disciplined Ripple in favor of the more fast and loose Hermit Purple.
* In short, he did the smart thing and lived the good life for decades, and now that he wants to do the responsible thing, he's paying for it.
* Okay, so how exactly is Steel Ball Run related to the main [=JoJo=] universe? Is it an alternate reality? Is it the new history that was created after [[spoiler:Pucci's]] universe reset? Is it just happening at the same time as Part 1, but with characters that coincidentally have similar names? So confusing...
** I'm pretty sure it's the new history after the universal reset.
* Why does everyone keep the existence of Hamon, vampires, cyborgs, Stands, ghosts, and aliens hidden from the general public (at least in Parts 1-5; I haven't read Part 6 yet)? No one ever really gives a reason. There are obvious reasons why Passione doesn't tell the world about Stands, of course, but there's no real reason why the heroes of Parts 1-4 keep all the supernatural stuff a secret, and even less of a reason why some of the minor characters in Part 4 do so.
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** And then there was the problem with the Lovers trying to implant a Dio spore into the body of a preternaturally talented Ripple user. Come to think of it, the entire dearth of Ripple usage on Joseph's part. Stands may be the only things that can harm other Stands, but normal objects can at least block and distract them and I can't help but think that Hamon'd be really useful when dealing with the users. Stuff like the Jojo Crackers could have really helped improve his offensive game and the various water tricks would have been really helpful against Dark Blue Moon, Geb, and D'arby, as well as possibly shielding him from Justice. And if he learned his mother's Ripple Hypnotism, he would have a much less complicated method for interrogating any captured Stand users.
** By his own admission, Joseph doesn't use Ripple much in Part 3 because he's out of practice.
*** Which doesn't really make sense since he has been hunting down a very dangerous opponent whose most easily exploitable weakness is the Ripple for the last three years, and he was using the Ripple even before he was trained and only took a few weeks of intense training to reach the level where he could fight a monster like Esidisi on relatively even grounds.
*** A few weeks of intense training using a magical pillar that might not even be standing any more.
*** Again, he had 3 years to practice, a good knowledge of the basics of the Ripple, and if necessary, the money needed to buy a ''submarine'' on short notice should be just fine for recreating the pillar of oil that had no notable magical properties. Especially since the Speedwagon Foundation is more than happy to help the Jojos in any way possible and know how to get in touch with the Ripple school.
*** He didn't need to eat, drink, or sleep when he was on the pillar of oil. It's magic.
*** I think Joseph and Caesar were kept alive by Hamon, they repeatedly reference that students have died in pillar and Caesar is visibly concerned of the possibility of Joseph starving to death.
** I was also bothered a lot by it. Regardless of in-character reasons, it was jarring seeing the man who defeated Esidisi and Wammu having such a hard time with some of the Stand users.
** He had to be touching the water in some way to keep it from spilling; the water level was just so high that it was impossible to not spill on its own.
** I have always liked to pretend that Cars' final battle with Joseph collapsed one of his lungs. If you assume that, the fact he can use even a weak Ripple becomes amazing, and the fact that he never uses a strong one ceases to be annoying.
*** Joseph lost a ''forearm'' in that fight. He'd be bound to take it easy afterwards. And he's never been all ''that'' strong.
** Joseph, for all his badassery, is established to be naturally lazy. He wasn't particularly ambitious in terms of ripple-use (he's never particularly powerful, even at his peak), and after the bullshit with the Pillar Men, huge recuperation time, and subsequent marriage, it's safe to assume that he was done with adventuring. Joseph as we see him in Stardust Crusaders still totes his sense of responsibility and competence that he learned in Battle Tendency, but he's still an old man reluctant to come out of retirement, even if he is pursuing Dio. He doesn't have to start being active until they reach Egypt.
** It's important to note that the Pillar Men were a very different beast from Dio and the Stand users. The Pillar Men, barring Kars, were extremely honorable and all of them, including Kars, had exploitable personalities that Joseph was able to empathize with very well. He had no preparation for Dio's antics or henchmen, and never met Dio himself until the very end. Joseph never resorted to the Ripple as a first resort in the past, and always used it when manipulating the Pillar Men into openings. The Stands were too predatory and evasive for it. His very focused and opportunistic style likely just dulled inclination for the very disciplined Ripple in favor of the more fast and loose Hermit Purple.
* In short, he did the smart thing and lived the good life for decades, and now that he wants to do the responsible thing, he's paying for it.
* Okay, so how exactly is Steel Ball Run related to the main [=JoJo=] universe? Is it an alternate reality? Is it the new history that was created after [[spoiler:Pucci's]] universe reset? Is it just happening at the same time as Part 1, but with characters that coincidentally have similar names? So confusing...
** I'm pretty sure it's the new history after the universal reset.
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* How come we never see Jotaro's dad? Unless the scanlation I read just made stuff up, Sadao Kujo is alive and well, at least during part 3. Even if he is on tour, you'd think he'd at least visit his comatose wife in the hospital.
** Maybe he did visit her, just not on-panel.
** Maybe he did visit her, just not on-panel.
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** Personally, while I liked the vampires and Pillar Men, I think the cyborg thing was pretty stupid. If the Axis Powers had that kind of technology, why didn't they use it to win the war? (The easy answer is "because it was impractical to mass-produce", but that doesn't explain the lack of cyborgs in the postwar world; see my point about TheMasquerade above.)
** This really doesn't answer the question. Why did they state that everything supernatural from part 3 onwards was a result of Stands when they already had the foundations of a FantasyKitchenSink?
** This really doesn't answer the question. Why did they state that everything supernatural from part 3 onwards was a result of Stands when they already had the foundations of a FantasyKitchenSink?
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*** I was just wondering why they got rid of the ripple that's all.
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*** I was just Just wondering why they got rid of the ripple that's all.
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** We don't know if the author wanted to end it at part 2 and start a new series with Stands as the main point or something like that, but the Ripple and creatures above humans (vampire, pillar men) already reached its highest point in part 2.
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** We don't know It's not known if the author wanted to end it at part 2 and start a new series with Stands as the main point or something like that, but the Ripple and creatures above humans (vampire, pillar men) already reached its highest point in part 2.
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* If Notorious B.I.G./Carne's Stand only activates upon death, then how did he pass Polpo's test? Even if the arrow killed him to bear the new Stand, how could Notorious B.I.G. disappear after passing Black Sabbath's trial? Also, it wouldn't have made sense for Diavolo to instantly pick him as a part of his personal guard without actually knowing what he does. How could he have known?
** This is just speculation, but maybe when Notorious BIG killed its victims, Carne came back to life? We've seen Stands doing weirder stuff. Or maybe it was a positive version of Cheap Trick, which simply finds a new host when the old one dies.
** He did not do the test with Polpo, but with another boss. If he did, he would have been in Giorno's gang.
** Also, he would know he's a Stand user if he could see other Stands, so he knew he must possess a Stand. They seem perfectly willing to throw him at the enemy and unleash his Stand, however, potentially without knowing what it would do, which still doesn't explain how they knew the Stand activates upon death of the user. The only explanations I can come up with is that either another, unseen Stand user could determine another person's stand ability through prescience, or it could have activated once when the user was near-death, and then later was resuscitated, which cancelled the Atand's power, but not before other members of the group witnessed the stand themselves.
* What's the full story on the Ripple? Part 1 says Will Zeppeli first learned it in Tibet, but Part 2 said it's an ancient tradition in Italy. (I think, will probably need to reread the whole thing again).
** This is just speculation, but maybe when Notorious BIG killed its victims, Carne came back to life? We've seen Stands doing weirder stuff. Or maybe it was a positive version of Cheap Trick, which simply finds a new host when the old one dies.
** He did not do the test with Polpo, but with another boss. If he did, he would have been in Giorno's gang.
** Also, he would know he's a Stand user if he could see other Stands, so he knew he must possess a Stand. They seem perfectly willing to throw him at the enemy and unleash his Stand, however, potentially without knowing what it would do, which still doesn't explain how they knew the Stand activates upon death of the user. The only explanations I can come up with is that either another, unseen Stand user could determine another person's stand ability through prescience, or it could have activated once when the user was near-death, and then later was resuscitated, which cancelled the Atand's power, but not before other members of the group witnessed the stand themselves.
* What's the full story on the Ripple? Part 1 says Will Zeppeli first learned it in Tibet, but Part 2 said it's an ancient tradition in Italy. (I think, will probably need to reread the whole thing again).
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** This is just speculation, but maybe when Notorious BIG killed its victims, Carne came back to life? We've seen Stands doing weirder stuff. Or maybe it was a positive version of Cheap Trick, which simply finds a new host when the old one dies.
** He did not do the test with Polpo, but with another boss. If he did, he would have been in Giorno's gang.
** Also, he would know he's a Stand user if he could see other Stands, so he knew he must possess a Stand. They seem perfectly willing to throw him at the enemy and unleash his Stand, however, potentially without knowing what it would do, which still doesn't explain how they knew the Stand activates upon death of the user. The only explanations I can come up with is that either another, unseen Stand user could determine another person's stand ability through prescience, or it could have activated once when the user was near-death, and then later was resuscitated, which cancelled the Atand's power, but not before other members of the group witnessed the stand themselves.
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*** I support this as the most likely explanation. GER only protects from attacks against itself AND its owner, as without Giorno, it would not be able to exist, given it's a Stand tied to a user like the rest (unlike SCR, which was automatic). When Made in Heaven activated, it was not having its natural life cycle threatened, so it just let the ability go ahead knowing full well in the reset, it would be fated to meet Giorno again and thus exist. Thus, the reason GER never stopped [=MiH=] is because it was not threatened. If Pucci had attempted to rewrite things so that the remaining son of Dio changed his course in life that would not lead to him getting GER, THEN the stand could have done its work.
** My take? Requiem isn't as broken as people make it out to be. Despite the impressive description of its powers, it seems to be more of a Game ''Un''breaker. Outside of Diavolo attempting to timeskip and Requiem going "lolno" (and the eternal deaths), it just seemed to act like a beefed up Gold Experience. To use an analogy, King Crimson is Diavolo's [=GameShark=], Gold Experience Requiem rips the [=GameShark=] out of Diavolo's hands and does the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LauaI21uFgY card crusher meme]] with it.
** My take? Requiem isn't as broken as people make it out to be. Despite the impressive description of its powers, it seems to be more of a Game ''Un''breaker. Outside of Diavolo attempting to timeskip and Requiem going "lolno" (and the eternal deaths), it just seemed to act like a beefed up Gold Experience. To use an analogy, King Crimson is Diavolo's [=GameShark=], Gold Experience Requiem rips the [=GameShark=] out of Diavolo's hands and does the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LauaI21uFgY card crusher meme]] with it.
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*** I support this as This seems the most likely explanation. GER only protects from attacks against itself AND its owner, as without Giorno, it would not be able to exist, given it's a Stand tied to a user like the rest (unlike SCR, which was automatic). When Made in Heaven activated, it was not having its natural life cycle threatened, so it just let the ability go ahead knowing full well in the reset, it would be fated to meet Giorno again and thus exist. Thus, the reason GER never stopped [=MiH=] is because it was not threatened. If Pucci had attempted to rewrite things so that the remaining son of Dio changed his course in life that would not lead to him getting GER, THEN the stand could have done its work.
**My take? Maybe Requiem isn't as broken as people make it out to be. Despite the impressive description of its powers, it seems to be more of a Game ''Un''breaker. Outside of Diavolo attempting to timeskip and Requiem going "lolno" (and the eternal deaths), it just seemed to act like a beefed up Gold Experience. To use an analogy, King Crimson is Diavolo's [=GameShark=], Gold Experience Requiem rips the [=GameShark=] out of Diavolo's hands and does the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LauaI21uFgY card crusher meme]] with it.
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*** I just attribute it to that. Puci was attacking from the other side of the world and Giorno's power (assuming he still has it) likely isn't automatic. The effects of Stairway to Heaven happened pretty rapidly, if Giorno was simply asleep at the time he'd likely not notice the effects at all until long after it was too late.
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*** I just attribute it to that. Puci was attacking from the other side of the world and Giorno's power (assuming he still has it) likely isn't automatic. The effects of Stairway to Heaven happened pretty rapidly, if Giorno was simply asleep at the time he'd likely not notice the effects at all until long after it was too late.
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* Why did Arabia Fats take orders from Dio even though Fats could have killed Dio using his Stand (The Sun)?
** Dio is so overpowered, he would have found some way around it.
*** This assuming that The Sun would've worked on Dio as the, well, sun does. Sun-shaped or not, it was still just a Stand, not a trillion-kilometer orb of fiery fusion death.
*** Except I'm pretty sure it's just the Sunlight itself that kills Vampires. And The Sun was powerful enough to light up the sky even when it was nighttime. Stop underrating it.
*** Unfortunately for Arabia Fats, Dio has that canonical Kinsey-rackup effect. ''Every one of his male henchmen becomes gay for him.'' Steely Dan, N'doul -- and he ALMOST gets Abdul, too. Seriously, man. A badass-yet-underrated stand Mr. Fats may have, but he doesn't have the Canonical Power of Overriding Sexy. Plus Brando is one diabolical cavalier bastard and he'd probably stop time and maul the poor bastard if Fats tried anything with The Sun.
** My theory is that either A) It generates heat and light, but no UV rays (which was stated in Part 2 to be what makes sunlight harmful to vampires) or B) He is gay for Dio like everybody else.
** In addition to the above, there's also the possibility that he had a spore inserted into his brain which Dio could have had kill him at will unless he decided to expose his brain to UV light (which might make it auto kill him), or that he was just a sociopath that was in it for the money like several of the other 7 signs and had no real desire to kill someone who was offering to give him $100,000,000 for killing a teenager.
*** Or it could be that Dio was inside a building that was shielded from sunlight and surrounded by loyal fanatics with broken abilities and Fats' mirror trick would probably be useless in an urban setting with an intelligent hawk (which can easily generate car-sized hunks of ice, so good luck baking Dio out) looking for you, especially since the Sun has a relatively short range and needs to be within eyeshot to aim.
** Dio had mind control, if the target was evil that is.
** Sure, Arabia probably could have done it. For some reason, Dio didn't tell him "oh, hey, as a vampire, I am totally powerless against you." What an odd choice. Not a lot of people in the [=JoJoverse=] know how vampires work, or that they exist, or that Dio was one, and there's also the matter of nobody knowing how his Stand worked. Fats would have had every reason to be terrified of Dio, and never tried to fight him.
*** In the first series, Dio tried to transform Jonathan into a vampire, which involved deliberately injecting a specific chemical into his target, which a skilled Hamon user can eject if it's in small enough a dose. An unconscious Dio that was not yet synched enough with his Joestar body to have full access to his vampiric abilities probably isn't too much of a danger to Joseph, especially since it was his own blood that he got back.
* How exactly did Gyro manage to [[spoiler:survive Sugar Mountain's curse when it was shown he had already become part of the tree before Johnny traded for the bottle of wine with the last of the Nameless Men?]]
* During the battle against Kira, there's the point where Josuke has to decide whether to risk healing an injured Okuyasu. [[spoiler:Hayato conducts the bomb energies from Okuyasu into himself, but then Josuke heals him back to whole while he's in the middle of exploding. So why not just wait for Kira to blow up Okuyasu and do the same thing?]]
** He wasn't sure he could pull it off, and the risks were too great.
*** He was afraid because [[spoiler:If Okuyasu had been turned into a bomb, then Kira could have blown up Okuyasu and killed Josuke, and since Crazy Diamond can't heal Josuke... yeah.]]
* One thing that bugs me is near the beginning of the third "series", it's pretty much made very obvious that The World is connected to the other Joestar stands (Dio uses the power of Purple Hermit himself once), but when he's explaining his power, that connection isn't stated, and he's somehow surprised that Jotaro could stop time too. Given Dio's intelligence in the first section, this development doesn't seem to be very in-character.
** Maybe The World is Dio's stand while the vine-like Stand Dio was seen with earlier was Jonathan's?
*** That only raises more questions!
*** Maybe Dio thought, since his body was Jonathan's to begin with, that he also obtained a part of Jonathan's stand, which gave him the powers of the other living Joestar-stands. But since Jotaro never used Star Platinum's ability (since he didn't know about it), Dio probably thought, "So his power is Super-Strength and Speed. That makes my ability to stop time unique." So, it was a misunderstanding on his side. (Even Dio isn't without fail.)
** Also, after turning into a vampire and [[AndIMustScream spending a century underwater]], Dio's personality might have changed somewhat.
*** That's something I hadn't considered before. I can accept that.
** To be fair, Dio does target Jotaro first, and complains once Jotaro stops time that he can only do it because Joseph told him it was possible. He might have been counting on killing Jotaro before Jotaro figured it out.
* Exactly WHAT happened at the end of the battle with Kira? Josuke and co have him on the ropes, so he uses his stand to reverse time and save himself, then... it cuts to Koichi going to Italy. Did I miss something?
** Yes you did. It looks like the scanlation site you were using must have skipped a few chapters. There was a definite end to that battle, where [[spoiler:Kira is stopped from detonating everyone who looked at him by Jotaro, before an ambulance runs Kira over, and he is dragged to hell in the Spirit World.]]
** King Crimson!, time has been erased...
** Probably the one thing I cannot understand about Jojo is right before this involving Kira's 'Bites the Dust' ability (which is admittedly really kind of cool and trippy). [[spoiler:Kira had everyone right where he wanted them, and he even ''activates KQ's power, and then huge severing tears are shown on the gang for a panel''. So what happens? Does he win, or?! ''Time resets!!'' But still we see him win... He. Won. Period.]]
** He doesn't know who got killed. It isn't even clear if he knows that time did indeed reset (he seems to be able to deduct it from the way Koichi acts), so the only way to be sure was to wait until the repeat-death happens.
** Notice the newspaper box behind Kira when he resets time. FORESHADOWING!!! Besides they know where he lives, once time resets, they go to Kira's house and kill him in 2 seconds.
* What is Silver Chariot's Ability? (Note: this is ''not' ' referring to Silver Chariot Requiem.) I do understand why the abilities of JJBA3: Stardust Crusader aren't as crazy and strange as the the ones of the other chapters (since Araki had to try things out). Hermit Purple has psychic visions in the form of pictures, Magician Red controls Fire while The Fool has sand. Heck, even Hierophant Green has a similar ability as Stone Free (Jolyne Kujo's Stand). Only Jotaro's stand had also no abilities besides its super strength (until the big fight with Dio). But Silver Chariot? He can ...stab ...things and lose its own armor in favor of speed. No reality warping abilities like the others... just WHY?
** Silver Chariot is just very fast. It doesn't have much power, it doesn't have any real magical abilities, and its only long-range ability is shooting the rapier tip. However, the Stand can literally stab a beam of light when its armor is removed, and it is also very dexterous (like Star Platinum).
*** Ahaaaaaaaa... Now that I remember: In the fight with Abdul, Silver Chariot could even cut the flames of Magician Red. That was actually pretty awesome...but that doesn't make his Stand less lame. Well not much anyway...
** Silver Chariot is also unique in regards to Stands because of its armour -- it can be attacked, but if its armour isn't penetrated, Polnareff won't be hurt. This applies to its sword as well; notice, for instance, how Vanilla Ice's Cream swallows the sword's tip, but it doesn't hurt Polnareff's hands.
** It was the beginning of stands so their powers were pretty mundane (or no power at all). You can't really introduce a new concept and instantly go King Crimson.
** Silver Chariot is usually underrated but it's actually pretty strong. His greatest power is his speed, while Star Platnum couldn't even hit Tower of Gray, Polnareff managed to summon his stand and slash Hanged Man. It's one of the few stands that move faster than light (without time control), and if he takes off his armor he becomes so fast he actually [[DoppelgangerAttack multiplies.]] These copies are not illusions,[[GameBreaker he is moving so fast he becomes pratically untouchable and can attack from 8 spots at the same time!]] Too bad [[ButtMonkey Polnareff rarely uses it since he is always at disavantage...]]
** Star Platinum was pretty awesome before the time stop ability.
** Silver Chariot's ability is to make a functioning clock out of fire by cutting it towards a table. He only ever used the ability once, so I suppose it's natural that you all forgot about it.
** Since Stands are related to personality to some degree, well...Polnareff dedicated his life to avenging his sister, so [[MyNameIsInigoMontoya his Stand is Inigo Montoya]]. (PrepareToDie.)
*** Or, in other words, his Stand's ability is incredible swordsmanship, plus the ability to go "I am not left-handed" if anyone ever manages to break the armor. Unfortunately for Polnareff, every enemy he ever faces just goes for him instead of his stand.
** Dio is so overpowered, he would have found some way around it.
*** This assuming that The Sun would've worked on Dio as the, well, sun does. Sun-shaped or not, it was still just a Stand, not a trillion-kilometer orb of fiery fusion death.
*** Except I'm pretty sure it's just the Sunlight itself that kills Vampires. And The Sun was powerful enough to light up the sky even when it was nighttime. Stop underrating it.
*** Unfortunately for Arabia Fats, Dio has that canonical Kinsey-rackup effect. ''Every one of his male henchmen becomes gay for him.'' Steely Dan, N'doul -- and he ALMOST gets Abdul, too. Seriously, man. A badass-yet-underrated stand Mr. Fats may have, but he doesn't have the Canonical Power of Overriding Sexy. Plus Brando is one diabolical cavalier bastard and he'd probably stop time and maul the poor bastard if Fats tried anything with The Sun.
** My theory is that either A) It generates heat and light, but no UV rays (which was stated in Part 2 to be what makes sunlight harmful to vampires) or B) He is gay for Dio like everybody else.
** In addition to the above, there's also the possibility that he had a spore inserted into his brain which Dio could have had kill him at will unless he decided to expose his brain to UV light (which might make it auto kill him), or that he was just a sociopath that was in it for the money like several of the other 7 signs and had no real desire to kill someone who was offering to give him $100,000,000 for killing a teenager.
*** Or it could be that Dio was inside a building that was shielded from sunlight and surrounded by loyal fanatics with broken abilities and Fats' mirror trick would probably be useless in an urban setting with an intelligent hawk (which can easily generate car-sized hunks of ice, so good luck baking Dio out) looking for you, especially since the Sun has a relatively short range and needs to be within eyeshot to aim.
** Dio had mind control, if the target was evil that is.
** Sure, Arabia probably could have done it. For some reason, Dio didn't tell him "oh, hey, as a vampire, I am totally powerless against you." What an odd choice. Not a lot of people in the [=JoJoverse=] know how vampires work, or that they exist, or that Dio was one, and there's also the matter of nobody knowing how his Stand worked. Fats would have had every reason to be terrified of Dio, and never tried to fight him.
*** In the first series, Dio tried to transform Jonathan into a vampire, which involved deliberately injecting a specific chemical into his target, which a skilled Hamon user can eject if it's in small enough a dose. An unconscious Dio that was not yet synched enough with his Joestar body to have full access to his vampiric abilities probably isn't too much of a danger to Joseph, especially since it was his own blood that he got back.
* How exactly did Gyro manage to [[spoiler:survive Sugar Mountain's curse when it was shown he had already become part of the tree before Johnny traded for the bottle of wine with the last of the Nameless Men?]]
* During the battle against Kira, there's the point where Josuke has to decide whether to risk healing an injured Okuyasu. [[spoiler:Hayato conducts the bomb energies from Okuyasu into himself, but then Josuke heals him back to whole while he's in the middle of exploding. So why not just wait for Kira to blow up Okuyasu and do the same thing?]]
** He wasn't sure he could pull it off, and the risks were too great.
*** He was afraid because [[spoiler:If Okuyasu had been turned into a bomb, then Kira could have blown up Okuyasu and killed Josuke, and since Crazy Diamond can't heal Josuke... yeah.]]
* One thing that bugs me is near the beginning of the third "series", it's pretty much made very obvious that The World is connected to the other Joestar stands (Dio uses the power of Purple Hermit himself once), but when he's explaining his power, that connection isn't stated, and he's somehow surprised that Jotaro could stop time too. Given Dio's intelligence in the first section, this development doesn't seem to be very in-character.
** Maybe The World is Dio's stand while the vine-like Stand Dio was seen with earlier was Jonathan's?
*** That only raises more questions!
*** Maybe Dio thought, since his body was Jonathan's to begin with, that he also obtained a part of Jonathan's stand, which gave him the powers of the other living Joestar-stands. But since Jotaro never used Star Platinum's ability (since he didn't know about it), Dio probably thought, "So his power is Super-Strength and Speed. That makes my ability to stop time unique." So, it was a misunderstanding on his side. (Even Dio isn't without fail.)
** Also, after turning into a vampire and [[AndIMustScream spending a century underwater]], Dio's personality might have changed somewhat.
*** That's something I hadn't considered before. I can accept that.
** To be fair, Dio does target Jotaro first, and complains once Jotaro stops time that he can only do it because Joseph told him it was possible. He might have been counting on killing Jotaro before Jotaro figured it out.
* Exactly WHAT happened at the end of the battle with Kira? Josuke and co have him on the ropes, so he uses his stand to reverse time and save himself, then... it cuts to Koichi going to Italy. Did I miss something?
** Yes you did. It looks like the scanlation site you were using must have skipped a few chapters. There was a definite end to that battle, where [[spoiler:Kira is stopped from detonating everyone who looked at him by Jotaro, before an ambulance runs Kira over, and he is dragged to hell in the Spirit World.]]
** King Crimson!, time has been erased...
** Probably the one thing I cannot understand about Jojo is right before this involving Kira's 'Bites the Dust' ability (which is admittedly really kind of cool and trippy). [[spoiler:Kira had everyone right where he wanted them, and he even ''activates KQ's power, and then huge severing tears are shown on the gang for a panel''. So what happens? Does he win, or?! ''Time resets!!'' But still we see him win... He. Won. Period.]]
** He doesn't know who got killed. It isn't even clear if he knows that time did indeed reset (he seems to be able to deduct it from the way Koichi acts), so the only way to be sure was to wait until the repeat-death happens.
** Notice the newspaper box behind Kira when he resets time. FORESHADOWING!!! Besides they know where he lives, once time resets, they go to Kira's house and kill him in 2 seconds.
* What is Silver Chariot's Ability? (Note: this is ''not' ' referring to Silver Chariot Requiem.) I do understand why the abilities of JJBA3: Stardust Crusader aren't as crazy and strange as the the ones of the other chapters (since Araki had to try things out). Hermit Purple has psychic visions in the form of pictures, Magician Red controls Fire while The Fool has sand. Heck, even Hierophant Green has a similar ability as Stone Free (Jolyne Kujo's Stand). Only Jotaro's stand had also no abilities besides its super strength (until the big fight with Dio). But Silver Chariot? He can ...stab ...things and lose its own armor in favor of speed. No reality warping abilities like the others... just WHY?
** Silver Chariot is just very fast. It doesn't have much power, it doesn't have any real magical abilities, and its only long-range ability is shooting the rapier tip. However, the Stand can literally stab a beam of light when its armor is removed, and it is also very dexterous (like Star Platinum).
*** Ahaaaaaaaa... Now that I remember: In the fight with Abdul, Silver Chariot could even cut the flames of Magician Red. That was actually pretty awesome...but that doesn't make his Stand less lame. Well not much anyway...
** Silver Chariot is also unique in regards to Stands because of its armour -- it can be attacked, but if its armour isn't penetrated, Polnareff won't be hurt. This applies to its sword as well; notice, for instance, how Vanilla Ice's Cream swallows the sword's tip, but it doesn't hurt Polnareff's hands.
** It was the beginning of stands so their powers were pretty mundane (or no power at all). You can't really introduce a new concept and instantly go King Crimson.
** Silver Chariot is usually underrated but it's actually pretty strong. His greatest power is his speed, while Star Platnum couldn't even hit Tower of Gray, Polnareff managed to summon his stand and slash Hanged Man. It's one of the few stands that move faster than light (without time control), and if he takes off his armor he becomes so fast he actually [[DoppelgangerAttack multiplies.]] These copies are not illusions,[[GameBreaker he is moving so fast he becomes pratically untouchable and can attack from 8 spots at the same time!]] Too bad [[ButtMonkey Polnareff rarely uses it since he is always at disavantage...]]
** Star Platinum was pretty awesome before the time stop ability.
** Silver Chariot's ability is to make a functioning clock out of fire by cutting it towards a table. He only ever used the ability once, so I suppose it's natural that you all forgot about it.
** Since Stands are related to personality to some degree, well...Polnareff dedicated his life to avenging his sister, so [[MyNameIsInigoMontoya his Stand is Inigo Montoya]]. (PrepareToDie.)
*** Or, in other words, his Stand's ability is incredible swordsmanship, plus the ability to go "I am not left-handed" if anyone ever manages to break the armor. Unfortunately for Polnareff, every enemy he ever faces just goes for him instead of his stand.
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** Dio is so overpowered, he would have found some way around it.
*** This assuming that The Sun would've worked on Dio as the, well, sun does. Sun-shaped or not, it was still just a Stand, not a trillion-kilometer orb of fiery fusion death.
*** Except I'm pretty sure it's just the Sunlight itself that kills Vampires. And The Sun was powerful enough to light up the sky even when it was nighttime. Stop underrating it.
*** Unfortunately for Arabia Fats, Dio has that canonical Kinsey-rackup effect. ''Every one of his male henchmen becomes gay for him.'' Steely Dan, N'doul -- and he ALMOST gets Abdul, too. Seriously, man. A badass-yet-underrated stand Mr. Fats may have, but he doesn't have the Canonical Power of Overriding Sexy. Plus Brando is one diabolical cavalier bastard and he'd probably stop time and maul the poor bastard if Fats tried anything with The Sun.
** My theory is that either A) It generates heat and light, but no UV rays (which was stated in Part 2 to be what makes sunlight harmful to vampires) or B) He is gay for Dio like everybody else.
** In addition to the above, there's also the possibility that he had a spore inserted into his brain which Dio could have had kill him at will unless he decided to expose his brain to UV light (which might make it auto kill him), or that he was just a sociopath that was in it for the money like several of the other 7 signs and had no real desire to kill someone who was offering to give him $100,000,000 for killing a teenager.
*** Or it could be that Dio was inside a building that was shielded from sunlight and surrounded by loyal fanatics with broken abilities and Fats' mirror trick would probably be useless in an urban setting with an intelligent hawk (which can easily generate car-sized hunks of ice, so good luck baking Dio out) looking for you, especially since the Sun has a relatively short range and needs to be within eyeshot to aim.
** Dio had mind control, if the target was evil that is.
** Sure, Arabia probably could have done it. For some reason, Dio didn't tell him "oh, hey, as a vampire, I am totally powerless against you." What an odd choice. Not a lot of people in the [=JoJoverse=] know how vampires work, or that they exist, or that Dio was one, and there's also the matter of nobody knowing how his Stand worked. Fats would have had every reason to be terrified of Dio, and never tried to fight him.
*** In the first series, Dio tried to transform Jonathan into a vampire, which involved deliberately injecting a specific chemical into his target, which a skilled Hamon user can eject if it's in small enough a dose. An unconscious Dio that was not yet synched enough with his Joestar body to have full access to his vampiric abilities probably isn't too much of a danger to Joseph, especially since it was his own blood that he got back.
* How exactly did Gyro manage to [[spoiler:survive Sugar Mountain's curse when it was shown he had already become part of the tree before Johnny traded for the bottle of wine with the last of the Nameless Men?]]
* During the battle against Kira, there's the point where Josuke has to decide whether to risk healing an injured Okuyasu. [[spoiler:Hayato conducts the bomb energies from Okuyasu into himself, but then Josuke heals him back to whole while he's in the middle of exploding. So why not just wait for Kira to blow up Okuyasu and do the same thing?]]
** He wasn't sure he could pull it off, and the risks were too great.
*** He was afraid because [[spoiler:If Okuyasu had been turned into a bomb, then Kira could have blown up Okuyasu and killed Josuke, and since Crazy Diamond can't heal Josuke... yeah.]]
* One thing that bugs me is near the beginning of the third "series", it's pretty much made very obvious that The World is connected to the other Joestar stands (Dio uses the power of Purple Hermit himself once), but when he's explaining his power, that connection isn't stated, and he's somehow surprised that Jotaro could stop time too. Given Dio's intelligence in the first section, this development doesn't seem to be very in-character.
** Maybe The World is Dio's stand while the vine-like Stand Dio was seen with earlier was Jonathan's?
*** That only raises more questions!
*** Maybe Dio thought, since his body was Jonathan's to begin with, that he also obtained a part of Jonathan's stand, which gave him the powers of the other living Joestar-stands. But since Jotaro never used Star Platinum's ability (since he didn't know about it), Dio probably thought, "So his power is Super-Strength and Speed. That makes my ability to stop time unique." So, it was a misunderstanding on his side. (Even Dio isn't without fail.)
** Also, after turning into a vampire and [[AndIMustScream spending a century underwater]], Dio's personality might have changed somewhat.
*** That's something I hadn't considered before. I can accept that.
** To be fair, Dio does target Jotaro first, and complains once Jotaro stops time that he can only do it because Joseph told him it was possible. He might have been counting on killing Jotaro before Jotaro figured it out.
* Exactly WHAT happened at the end of the battle with Kira? Josuke and co have him on the ropes, so he uses his stand to reverse time and save himself, then... it cuts to Koichi going to Italy. Did I miss something?
** Yes you did. It looks like the scanlation site you were using must have skipped a few chapters. There was a definite end to that battle, where [[spoiler:Kira is stopped from detonating everyone who looked at him by Jotaro, before an ambulance runs Kira over, and he is dragged to hell in the Spirit World.]]
** King Crimson!, time has been erased...
** Probably the one thing I cannot understand about Jojo is right before this involving Kira's 'Bites the Dust' ability (which is admittedly really kind of cool and trippy). [[spoiler:Kira had everyone right where he wanted them, and he even ''activates KQ's power, and then huge severing tears are shown on the gang for a panel''. So what happens? Does he win, or?! ''Time resets!!'' But still we see him win... He. Won. Period.]]
** He doesn't know who got killed. It isn't even clear if he knows that time did indeed reset (he seems to be able to deduct it from the way Koichi acts), so the only way to be sure was to wait until the repeat-death happens.
** Notice the newspaper box behind Kira when he resets time. FORESHADOWING!!! Besides they know where he lives, once time resets, they go to Kira's house and kill him in 2 seconds.
* What is Silver Chariot's Ability? (Note: this is ''not' ' referring to Silver Chariot Requiem.) I do understand why the abilities of JJBA3: Stardust Crusader aren't as crazy and strange as the the ones of the other chapters (since Araki had to try things out). Hermit Purple has psychic visions in the form of pictures, Magician Red controls Fire while The Fool has sand. Heck, even Hierophant Green has a similar ability as Stone Free (Jolyne Kujo's Stand). Only Jotaro's stand had also no abilities besides its super strength (until the big fight with Dio). But Silver Chariot? He can ...stab ...things and lose its own armor in favor of speed. No reality warping abilities like the others... just WHY?
** Silver Chariot is just very fast. It doesn't have much power, it doesn't have any real magical abilities, and its only long-range ability is shooting the rapier tip. However, the Stand can literally stab a beam of light when its armor is removed, and it is also very dexterous (like Star Platinum).
*** Ahaaaaaaaa... Now that I remember: In the fight with Abdul, Silver Chariot could even cut the flames of Magician Red. That was actually pretty awesome...but that doesn't make his Stand less lame. Well not much anyway...
** Silver Chariot is also unique in regards to Stands because of its armour -- it can be attacked, but if its armour isn't penetrated, Polnareff won't be hurt. This applies to its sword as well; notice, for instance, how Vanilla Ice's Cream swallows the sword's tip, but it doesn't hurt Polnareff's hands.
** It was the beginning of stands so their powers were pretty mundane (or no power at all). You can't really introduce a new concept and instantly go King Crimson.
** Silver Chariot is usually underrated but it's actually pretty strong. His greatest power is his speed, while Star Platnum couldn't even hit Tower of Gray, Polnareff managed to summon his stand and slash Hanged Man. It's one of the few stands that move faster than light (without time control), and if he takes off his armor he becomes so fast he actually [[DoppelgangerAttack multiplies.]] These copies are not illusions,[[GameBreaker he is moving so fast he becomes pratically untouchable and can attack from 8 spots at the same time!]] Too bad [[ButtMonkey Polnareff rarely uses it since he is always at disavantage...]]
** Star Platinum was pretty awesome before the time stop ability.
** Silver Chariot's ability is to make a functioning clock out of fire by cutting it towards a table. He only ever used the ability once, so I suppose it's natural that you all forgot about it.
** Since Stands are related to personality to some degree, well...Polnareff dedicated his life to avenging his sister, so [[MyNameIsInigoMontoya his Stand is Inigo Montoya]]. (PrepareToDie.)
*** Or, in other words, his Stand's ability is incredible swordsmanship, plus the ability to go "I am not left-handed" if anyone ever manages to break the armor. Unfortunately for Polnareff, every enemy he ever faces just goes for him instead of his stand.
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* How is it that at the ends of Parts II and III, they fly Alitalia when they fly legit (I.E. not end up crashing)? I could possibly see Joseph flying legit to Japan via a stopover in Rome, but Cairo to Tokyo at the end? And both flights sounded like they were nonstop, which makes no sense. Even taking the expansionism that occurred in the 1980s into consideration, it doesn't make sense that Alitalia could fly a person non-stop to Tokyo from such non-Italian/European places as JFK and Cairo.
* Iggy makes a clone of DIO that looks and sounds exactly like the original, so much so that Vanilla Ice's only complaint about it is that it appeared in a room with sunlight. How did Iggy manage to make a perfect replica of someone he'd never even seen? The only way would've been if Joseph showed him a photo, and dogs apparently don't possess the depth perception necessary to distinguish people in photos.
** Maybe he used his Stand to see the photo, like Jotaro when he sees the fly.
** I'm no dog scientist, but maybe Iggy's sense of smell was strong enough to get a profile of DIO in the mansion.
** Iggy was no regular dog, [[UpliftedAnimal he was a Stand-enhanced dog]], it is entirely possible his physiology did't work exactly the same as that of a regular dog anymore, and he had the dept perception to distinguish details in photos.
* When Joseph, Jotaro, and Kakoyin get sucked down Terrence D'Arby's hole in Dio's mansion, he tells Abdul to burn down the mansion in 10 minutes if Jospeh and the other's can't escape in that time. Which begs the question; ''why didn't they just burn down the mansion in the first place?''
** #1: Jonathan tried that. Joseph knows that it didn't work then, and it might fail again. #2 If it worked, and Dio died, they'd have no way of knowing that he'd be really dead, since he'd be burned to ash by the fire from Abdul's stand. Yes, Holly's symptoms would disappear and Joseph probably wouldn't find new pictures with Hermit Purple, but they couldn't be certain that some part of Dio wouldn't still be alive. Remember, Dio got back from being just a head in a jar and Joseph saw Esidisi live on as only a brain. Unless they see ALL of Dio being burned to dust, they can't be certain he won't come back.
*** And even that didn't work since he'd already made a contingency just in case to ensure he would eventually return (barring his host getting murdered by a minor side character).
* Erina Joestar is seen using Dio's coffin as a makeshift lifeboat, and presumably used it to shield herself from the explosion of the ship. This distinctive item is shown both at the end of Part 1 and in a flashback during Part 2. How was it that Dio was found a century later in that exact same coffin?
** http://ls57tiger.freepgs.com/jojo/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1534 This forum thread offers several opinions on the subject. The most plausible {{Watsonian}} explanation is that "After another ship came to rescue Erina, the coffin sank, Dionathan jumped in." By the way, in the future, please place new queries at the bottom on the page.
** Is it really the same coffin? I think the design is different. Maybe Dio just decided to sleep in a coffin after being fished out of the ocean.
** The "Stardust Crusaders" manga begins with Dio's coffin being lifted from the ocean with him inside it. So either [[CrazyPrepared Dio had a spare coffin]] or the coffin Erina was floating on sank.
** Don't forget, there were *two* vampires on that ship, so there would of course be two coffins. Unless you think Dio and Wang Chan were planning to cuddle up together after Dio got his body back.
** Dios coffin had two compartments, one for him and one for Wang Chan. So with a little retconing it could be possible that Dio could have dragged JoJos body into the coffin in the last second.
* Iggy makes a clone of DIO that looks and sounds exactly like the original, so much so that Vanilla Ice's only complaint about it is that it appeared in a room with sunlight. How did Iggy manage to make a perfect replica of someone he'd never even seen? The only way would've been if Joseph showed him a photo, and dogs apparently don't possess the depth perception necessary to distinguish people in photos.
** Maybe he used his Stand to see the photo, like Jotaro when he sees the fly.
** I'm no dog scientist, but maybe Iggy's sense of smell was strong enough to get a profile of DIO in the mansion.
** Iggy was no regular dog, [[UpliftedAnimal he was a Stand-enhanced dog]], it is entirely possible his physiology did't work exactly the same as that of a regular dog anymore, and he had the dept perception to distinguish details in photos.
* When Joseph, Jotaro, and Kakoyin get sucked down Terrence D'Arby's hole in Dio's mansion, he tells Abdul to burn down the mansion in 10 minutes if Jospeh and the other's can't escape in that time. Which begs the question; ''why didn't they just burn down the mansion in the first place?''
** #1: Jonathan tried that. Joseph knows that it didn't work then, and it might fail again. #2 If it worked, and Dio died, they'd have no way of knowing that he'd be really dead, since he'd be burned to ash by the fire from Abdul's stand. Yes, Holly's symptoms would disappear and Joseph probably wouldn't find new pictures with Hermit Purple, but they couldn't be certain that some part of Dio wouldn't still be alive. Remember, Dio got back from being just a head in a jar and Joseph saw Esidisi live on as only a brain. Unless they see ALL of Dio being burned to dust, they can't be certain he won't come back.
*** And even that didn't work since he'd already made a contingency just in case to ensure he would eventually return (barring his host getting murdered by a minor side character).
* Erina Joestar is seen using Dio's coffin as a makeshift lifeboat, and presumably used it to shield herself from the explosion of the ship. This distinctive item is shown both at the end of Part 1 and in a flashback during Part 2. How was it that Dio was found a century later in that exact same coffin?
** http://ls57tiger.freepgs.com/jojo/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1534 This forum thread offers several opinions on the subject. The most plausible {{Watsonian}} explanation is that "After another ship came to rescue Erina, the coffin sank, Dionathan jumped in." By the way, in the future, please place new queries at the bottom on the page.
** Is it really the same coffin? I think the design is different. Maybe Dio just decided to sleep in a coffin after being fished out of the ocean.
** The "Stardust Crusaders" manga begins with Dio's coffin being lifted from the ocean with him inside it. So either [[CrazyPrepared Dio had a spare coffin]] or the coffin Erina was floating on sank.
** Don't forget, there were *two* vampires on that ship, so there would of course be two coffins. Unless you think Dio and Wang Chan were planning to cuddle up together after Dio got his body back.
** Dios coffin had two compartments, one for him and one for Wang Chan. So with a little retconing it could be possible that Dio could have dragged JoJos body into the coffin in the last second.
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* How is it that at the ends of Parts II and III, they fly Alitalia when they fly legit (I.E. not end up crashing)?I could Joseph may possibly see Joseph flying legit fly to Japan via a stopover in Rome, but Cairo to Tokyo at the end? And both flights sounded like they were nonstop, which makes no sense. Even taking the expansionism that occurred in the 1980s into consideration, it doesn't make sense that Alitalia could fly a person non-stop to Tokyo from such non-Italian/European places as JFK and Cairo.
* Iggy makes a clone of DIO that looks and sounds exactly like the original, so much so that Vanilla Ice's only complaint about it is that it appeared in a room with sunlight. How did Iggy manage to make a perfect replica of someone he'd never even seen? The only way would've been if Joseph showed him a photo, and dogs apparently don't possess the depth perception necessary to distinguish people in photos.
** Maybe he used his Stand to see the photo, like Jotaro when he sees the fly.
** I'm no dog scientist, but maybe Iggy's sense of smell was strong enough to get a profile of DIO in the mansion.
** Iggy was no regular dog, [[UpliftedAnimal he was a Stand-enhanced dog]], it is entirely possible his physiology did't work exactly the same as that of a regular dog anymore, and he had the dept perception to distinguish details in photos.
* When Joseph, Jotaro, and Kakoyin get sucked down Terrence D'Arby's hole in Dio's mansion, he tells Abdul to burn down the mansion in 10 minutes if Jospeh and the other's can't escape in that time. Which begs the question; ''why didn't they just burn down the mansion in the first place?''
** #1: Jonathan tried that. Joseph knows that it didn't work then, and it might fail again. #2 If it worked, and Dio died, they'd have no way of knowing that he'd be really dead, since he'd be burned to ash by the fire from Abdul's stand. Yes, Holly's symptoms would disappear and Joseph probably wouldn't find new pictures with Hermit Purple, but they couldn't be certain that some part of Dio wouldn't still be alive. Remember, Dio got back from being just a head in a jar and Joseph saw Esidisi live on as only a brain. Unless they see ALL of Dio being burned to dust, they can't be certain he won't come back.
*** And even that didn't work since he'd already made a contingency just in case to ensure he would eventually return (barring his host getting murdered by a minor side character).
* Erina Joestar is seen using Dio's coffin as a makeshift lifeboat, and presumably used it to shield herself from the explosion of the ship. This distinctive item is shown both at the end of Part 1 and in a flashback during Part 2. How was it that Dio was found a century later in that exact same coffin?
** http://ls57tiger.freepgs.com/jojo/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1534 This forum thread offers several opinions on the subject. The most plausible {{Watsonian}} explanation is that "After another ship came to rescue Erina, the coffin sank, Dionathan jumped in." By the way, in the future, please place new queries at the bottom on the page.
** Is it really the same coffin? I think the design is different. Maybe Dio just decided to sleep in a coffin after being fished out of the ocean.
** The "Stardust Crusaders" manga begins with Dio's coffin being lifted from the ocean with him inside it. So either [[CrazyPrepared Dio had a spare coffin]] or the coffin Erina was floating on sank.
** Don't forget, there were *two* vampires on that ship, so there would of course be two coffins. Unless you think Dio and Wang Chan were planning to cuddle up together after Dio got his body back.
** Dios coffin had two compartments, one for him and one for Wang Chan. So with a little retconing it could be possible that Dio could have dragged JoJos body into the coffin in the last second.Cairo.
* How is it that at the ends of Parts II and III, they fly Alitalia when they fly legit (I.E. not end up crashing)?
* Iggy makes a clone of DIO that looks and sounds exactly like the original, so much so that Vanilla Ice's only complaint about it is that it appeared in a room with sunlight. How did Iggy manage to make a perfect replica of someone he'd never even seen? The only way would've been if Joseph showed him a photo, and dogs apparently don't possess the depth perception necessary to distinguish people in photos.
** Maybe he used his Stand to see the photo, like Jotaro when he sees the fly.
** I'm no dog scientist, but maybe Iggy's sense of smell was strong enough to get a profile of DIO in the mansion.
** Iggy was no regular dog, [[UpliftedAnimal he was a Stand-enhanced dog]], it is entirely possible his physiology did't work exactly the same as that of a regular dog anymore, and he had the dept perception to distinguish details in photos.
* When Joseph, Jotaro, and Kakoyin get sucked down Terrence D'Arby's hole in Dio's mansion, he tells Abdul to burn down the mansion in 10 minutes if Jospeh and the other's can't escape in that time. Which begs the question; ''why didn't they just burn down the mansion in the first place?''
** #1: Jonathan tried that. Joseph knows that it didn't work then, and it might fail again. #2 If it worked, and Dio died, they'd have no way of knowing that he'd be really dead, since he'd be burned to ash by the fire from Abdul's stand. Yes, Holly's symptoms would disappear and Joseph probably wouldn't find new pictures with Hermit Purple, but they couldn't be certain that some part of Dio wouldn't still be alive. Remember, Dio got back from being just a head in a jar and Joseph saw Esidisi live on as only a brain. Unless they see ALL of Dio being burned to dust, they can't be certain he won't come back.
*** And even that didn't work since he'd already made a contingency just in case to ensure he would eventually return (barring his host getting murdered by a minor side character).
* Erina Joestar is seen using Dio's coffin as a makeshift lifeboat, and presumably used it to shield herself from the explosion of the ship. This distinctive item is shown both at the end of Part 1 and in a flashback during Part 2. How was it that Dio was found a century later in that exact same coffin?
** http://ls57tiger.freepgs.com/jojo/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1534 This forum thread offers several opinions on the subject. The most plausible {{Watsonian}} explanation is that "After another ship came to rescue Erina, the coffin sank, Dionathan jumped in." By the way, in the future, please place new queries at the bottom on the page.
** Is it really the same coffin? I think the design is different. Maybe Dio just decided to sleep in a coffin after being fished out of the ocean.
** The "Stardust Crusaders" manga begins with Dio's coffin being lifted from the ocean with him inside it. So either [[CrazyPrepared Dio had a spare coffin]] or the coffin Erina was floating on sank.
** Don't forget, there were *two* vampires on that ship, so there would of course be two coffins. Unless you think Dio and Wang Chan were planning to cuddle up together after Dio got his body back.
** Dios coffin had two compartments, one for him and one for Wang Chan. So with a little retconing it could be possible that Dio could have dragged JoJos body into the coffin in the last second.
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** In the original manga, the word ''sutando'' is presented as an AlternateCharacterReading of "幽波紋", which means "Ghostly ripple" and is normally red ''yūhamon''; so, originally, it was intended to be a bilingual pun. Araki seems to have dropped that idea, though.
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** In the original manga, the word ''sutando'' is presented as an AlternateCharacterReading of "幽波紋", which means "Ghostly ripple" and is normally red read ''yūhamon''; so, originally, it was intended to be a bilingual pun. Araki seems to have dropped that idea, though.
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* Why did Joseph become old? I thought the Ripple slows your aging process?
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** Plus, during his fight with Wammu, Joseph got hit in the ribs with an iron ball traveling at high speed. I imagine that did some damage to his lungs and affected his ability to use the Ripple.
* Why did Joseph say he had to smash a 30000 yen camera every time he wanted to make a spirit photo? What was stopping him from using a cheaper camera?
** Stardust Crusaders takes place in 1989, so it is unlikely there were any cheaper cameras.
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** Stardust Crusaders takes place in 1989, so it is unlikely there were any cheaper cameras.
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** Plus, during his fight with Wammu, Joseph got hit in the ribs with an iron ball traveling at high speed. I imagine Presumably that did some damage to his lungs and affected his ability to use the Ripple.
* Why did Joseph say he had to smash a 30000 yen camera every time he wanted to make a spirit photo? What was stopping him from using a cheaper camera?
** Stardust Crusaders takes place in 1989, so it is unlikely there were any cheaper cameras.
** Stardust Crusaders takes place in 1989, so it is unlikely there were any cheaper cameras.
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* If Yoshikage Kira wanted a normal life and not be bothered by anything, then why did he go around killing women and taking their hands? Seems to be asking for trouble and to be bothered.
** Kira had mental problems. He couldn't resist his compulsions.
*** Case in point: His favourite movie was Fritz Lang's Film/{{M}}, which was about a compulsory child killer who claimed he was not responsible for his actions.
*** Or maybe he was mental from [[Manga/DeathNote a different source]]...
** Maybe he wanted to have a normal life BESIDES dismembering women...
** "Normal" might be a mistranslation. Wikipedia's list of chapter titles has Kira wanting a "quiet" life.
** Or he's just a complete psychopath whose personal interpretation of "normal"/"quiet" life is: be able to indulge in my impulses while not standing out.
* Josuke merged Angelo with a rock as an alternative to killing him, but wouldn't Angelo just have suffocated in a second after being merged with the rock anyway?
** I don't see why, he still has most of his human body, including his lungs, and his nose and mouth seem to be working just fine.
* Koichi's Act 2 had the power to create anything that made a noise by writing the sound effect on something (i.e. crackle for fire, whoosh for wind; presumably this could even extend to the boom of an atomic bomb or the crack of a spine being broken), so it basically had infinite uses; so in what way is Act 3's ability to make things heavier an improvement?
** Well, Act 3 seems to be much faster and more combat-capable than Act 2. Additionally, we don't know the exact limits of what Act 2 could generate. It's quite possible that blowing away Yukako was the upper boundary of what it could do.
** For that matter, how are the powers of Act 2 and Act 3 even related at all?
*** [[ComboPlatterPowers They aren't.]]
*** Act 3's explanation of the Freeze power is that it changed the spelling of "Three," so the reasoning seems to still be vaguely wordplay-related.
*** Echoes various Act's and their powers were based respectively on "the sound of words" for Act 1, "the meaning of words" for Act 2, and "the weight of words" for Act 3. Hence why Three Freeze now weighs it's targets down, I would assume Act Three is applying the words in question when it punches the target, though that last part is just speculation.
*** Act 2's word ability doesn't change the physical surface of objects so Koichi can't break spines with a "crack" sound.
* Why wasn't Okuyasu a little more vengeful towards the man who killed his brother, once they had him at their mercy?
** Okuyasu is a good person, really. No one in the good side of "Diamond is Unbreakable" killed anyone.
* How did Arika survive after his Stand died in the ocean?
** The Stand didn't actually die.
* How did Jotaro get all that stuff into his cell at the start of Part 3 if Star Platinum has a range of only a few metres?
** A plot hole, perhaps?
** He probably stole stuff from the guards.
** Since the guards said he could leave any time, it means he wasn't in jail just in the cell at the station; he could have taken it from anyone walking outside, the guards, the evidence area could have been near by.
*** No, they also say he never left. My gues is, the wall of his cell is an external wall, and Star Platinum is grabbing things from people who walk by.
* Why didn't Joseph become a vampire when he got the blood transfusion like Vanilla Ice did?
** Most likely it doesn't work that way. Don't forget that [[OurVampiresAreDifferent vampires in JoJo are, in fact, humans with the 'secret potential' of their brains "unlocked"]]: this is not some Dracula-curse or whatever -- vampire transformation here must have something to do with Dio's cells -- the ones that, remember, he can freely control (as it can be clearly seen on [[spoiler:the battle against The Lovers]] or with [[spoiler:Okuyasu's father]]). Vanilla Ice was transformed because Dio chose to do so, but as he was [[spoiler:already dead]] at the time of the blood transfusion, he could not transform Joseph into one, as he would have to conciously do that.
** Kira had mental problems. He couldn't resist his compulsions.
*** Case in point: His favourite movie was Fritz Lang's Film/{{M}}, which was about a compulsory child killer who claimed he was not responsible for his actions.
*** Or maybe he was mental from [[Manga/DeathNote a different source]]...
** Maybe he wanted to have a normal life BESIDES dismembering women...
** "Normal" might be a mistranslation. Wikipedia's list of chapter titles has Kira wanting a "quiet" life.
** Or he's just a complete psychopath whose personal interpretation of "normal"/"quiet" life is: be able to indulge in my impulses while not standing out.
* Josuke merged Angelo with a rock as an alternative to killing him, but wouldn't Angelo just have suffocated in a second after being merged with the rock anyway?
** I don't see why, he still has most of his human body, including his lungs, and his nose and mouth seem to be working just fine.
* Koichi's Act 2 had the power to create anything that made a noise by writing the sound effect on something (i.e. crackle for fire, whoosh for wind; presumably this could even extend to the boom of an atomic bomb or the crack of a spine being broken), so it basically had infinite uses; so in what way is Act 3's ability to make things heavier an improvement?
** Well, Act 3 seems to be much faster and more combat-capable than Act 2. Additionally, we don't know the exact limits of what Act 2 could generate. It's quite possible that blowing away Yukako was the upper boundary of what it could do.
** For that matter, how are the powers of Act 2 and Act 3 even related at all?
*** [[ComboPlatterPowers They aren't.]]
*** Act 3's explanation of the Freeze power is that it changed the spelling of "Three," so the reasoning seems to still be vaguely wordplay-related.
*** Echoes various Act's and their powers were based respectively on "the sound of words" for Act 1, "the meaning of words" for Act 2, and "the weight of words" for Act 3. Hence why Three Freeze now weighs it's targets down, I would assume Act Three is applying the words in question when it punches the target, though that last part is just speculation.
*** Act 2's word ability doesn't change the physical surface of objects so Koichi can't break spines with a "crack" sound.
* Why wasn't Okuyasu a little more vengeful towards the man who killed his brother, once they had him at their mercy?
** Okuyasu is a good person, really. No one in the good side of "Diamond is Unbreakable" killed anyone.
* How did Arika survive after his Stand died in the ocean?
** The Stand didn't actually die.
* How did Jotaro get all that stuff into his cell at the start of Part 3 if Star Platinum has a range of only a few metres?
** A plot hole, perhaps?
** He probably stole stuff from the guards.
** Since the guards said he could leave any time, it means he wasn't in jail just in the cell at the station; he could have taken it from anyone walking outside, the guards, the evidence area could have been near by.
*** No, they also say he never left. My gues is, the wall of his cell is an external wall, and Star Platinum is grabbing things from people who walk by.
* Why didn't Joseph become a vampire when he got the blood transfusion like Vanilla Ice did?
** Most likely it doesn't work that way. Don't forget that [[OurVampiresAreDifferent vampires in JoJo are, in fact, humans with the 'secret potential' of their brains "unlocked"]]: this is not some Dracula-curse or whatever -- vampire transformation here must have something to do with Dio's cells -- the ones that, remember, he can freely control (as it can be clearly seen on [[spoiler:the battle against The Lovers]] or with [[spoiler:Okuyasu's father]]). Vanilla Ice was transformed because Dio chose to do so, but as he was [[spoiler:already dead]] at the time of the blood transfusion, he could not transform Joseph into one, as he would have to conciously do that.
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** Kira had mental problems. He couldn't resist his compulsions.
*** Case in point: His favourite movie was Fritz Lang's Film/{{M}}, which was about a compulsory child killer who claimed he was not responsible for his actions.
*** Or maybe he was mental from [[Manga/DeathNote a different source]]...
** Maybe he wanted to have a normal life BESIDES dismembering women...
** "Normal" might be a mistranslation. Wikipedia's list of chapter titles has Kira wanting a "quiet" life.
** Or he's just a complete psychopath whose personal interpretation of "normal"/"quiet" life is: be able to indulge in my impulses while not standing out.
* Josuke merged Angelo with a rock as an alternative to killing him, but wouldn't Angelo just have suffocated in a second after being merged with the rock anyway?
** I don't see why, he still has most of his human body, including his lungs, and his nose and mouth seem to be working just fine.
* Koichi's Act 2 had the power to create anything that made a noise by writing the sound effect on something (i.e. crackle for fire, whoosh for wind; presumably this could even extend to the boom of an atomic bomb or the crack of a spine being broken), so it basically had infinite uses; so in what way is Act 3's ability to make things heavier an improvement?
** Well, Act 3 seems to be much faster and more combat-capable than Act 2. Additionally, we don't know the exact limits of what Act 2 could generate. It's quite possible that blowing away Yukako was the upper boundary of what it could do.
** For that matter, how are the powers of Act 2 and Act 3 even related at all?
*** [[ComboPlatterPowers They aren't.]]
*** Act 3's explanation of the Freeze power is that it changed the spelling of "Three," so the reasoning seems to still be vaguely wordplay-related.
*** Echoes various Act's and their powers were based respectively on "the sound of words" for Act 1, "the meaning of words" for Act 2, and "the weight of words" for Act 3. Hence why Three Freeze now weighs it's targets down, I would assume Act Three is applying the words in question when it punches the target, though that last part is just speculation.
*** Act 2's word ability doesn't change the physical surface of objects so Koichi can't break spines with a "crack" sound.
* Why wasn't Okuyasu a little more vengeful towards the man who killed his brother, once they had him at their mercy?
** Okuyasu is a good person, really. No one in the good side of "Diamond is Unbreakable" killed anyone.
* How did Arika survive after his Stand died in the ocean?
** The Stand didn't actually die.
* How did Jotaro get all that stuff into his cell at the start of Part 3 if Star Platinum has a range of only a few metres?
** A plot hole, perhaps?
** He probably stole stuff from the guards.
** Since the guards said he could leave any time, it means he wasn't in jail just in the cell at the station; he could have taken it from anyone walking outside, the guards, the evidence area could have been near by.
*** No, they also say he never left. My gues is, the wall of his cell is an external wall, and Star Platinum is grabbing things from people who walk by.
* Why didn't Joseph become a vampire when he got the blood transfusion like Vanilla Ice did?
** Most likely it doesn't work that way. Don't forget that [[OurVampiresAreDifferent vampires in JoJo are, in fact, humans with the 'secret potential' of their brains "unlocked"]]: this is not some Dracula-curse or whatever -- vampire transformation here must have something to do with Dio's cells -- the ones that, remember, he can freely control (as it can be clearly seen on [[spoiler:the battle against The Lovers]] or with [[spoiler:Okuyasu's father]]). Vanilla Ice was transformed because Dio chose to do so, but as he was [[spoiler:already dead]] at the time of the blood transfusion, he could not transform Joseph into one, as he would have to conciously do that.
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** The operative words here are "make money quick". Josuke is a teenager, and as smart and mature as he is, he still doesn't think like an adult. He probably considers something like that boring or that it would take way too much time. And seeing as he is still a teenager, who's gonna actually buy this service from him?
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** The operative words here are "make money quick". Josuke is a teenager, and as smart and mature as he is, he still doesn't think like an adult. He probably considers something like that boring or that it would take way too much time. And seeing as he is still a teenager, who's gonna actually buy this service from him?him?
* When Rohan used Heaven's Door on Hayato, how did he see the memories of things that were about to happen? I get that it was meant to be a part of Bites The Dust's time looping effect, but he hadn't gone back in time from that point when Rohan first got to him so he shouldn't have known about those things.
* When Rohan used Heaven's Door on Hayato, how did he see the memories of things that were about to happen? I get that it was meant to be a part of Bites The Dust's time looping effect, but he hadn't gone back in time from that point when Rohan first got to him so he shouldn't have known about those things.
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***there is no way to destroy the world at night. In space the sun is always shining.
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* Of all of Josuke's "make money quick" schemes, did he never think of opening a "repair anything" business and use Crazy Diamond's power to make loads of easy money? ranging from electronics to cluttery to even family heirlooms like old feudal weapons, he can fix anything to prime condition in seconds, and here he wouldn't be scamming anyone like when he tried to cheat Rohan out of his money or having to literally fight Shigechi to near death to get his rightful share of a lottery ticket, he could even enlist Okuyasu's help to play the role of clerk to make it seem he is constantly busy working and make it less suspicious, and it is not like he would be the only one in town running a Stand-based business, both Tonio and Doctor Aya did similar, so why not?
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* Of all of Josuke's "make money quick" schemes, did he never think of opening a "repair anything" business and use Crazy Diamond's power to make loads of easy money? ranging from electronics to cluttery to even family heirlooms like old feudal weapons, he can fix anything to prime condition in seconds, and here he wouldn't be scamming anyone like when he tried to cheat Rohan out of his money or having to literally fight Shigechi to near death to get his rightful share of a lottery ticket, he could even enlist Okuyasu's help to play the role of clerk to make it seem he is constantly busy working and make it less suspicious, and it is not like he would be the only one in town running a Stand-based business, both Tonio and Doctor Aya did similar, so why not?not?
** The operative words here are "make money quick". Josuke is a teenager, and as smart and mature as he is, he still doesn't think like an adult. He probably considers something like that boring or that it would take way too much time. And seeing as he is still a teenager, who's gonna actually buy this service from him?
** The operative words here are "make money quick". Josuke is a teenager, and as smart and mature as he is, he still doesn't think like an adult. He probably considers something like that boring or that it would take way too much time. And seeing as he is still a teenager, who's gonna actually buy this service from him?
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*** Act 2's word ability doesn't change the physical surface of objects so Koichi can't break spines with a "crack" sound.
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**** Based on the fact that a barely formed Star Platinum stopped a bullet at the beginning of Part 3, at point blank range, suggests to me that most stands should be able to easily react to bullets, especially if they are fired from a long distance, giving the user time to react. Keep in mind, Jotaro didn't even have proper control of SP at the time, so fully motivated stand users should have better speed than his. The only reason Mista and Hol Horse can make it work is because they can manipulate the speed and trajectory of their bullets, something you can't do with a short ranged stand. The only time I could imagine that working is if DIO or Jotaro did it during a time stop, but stand punches are far more effective, especially if you don't need to keep your distance like DIO did with Jotaro.
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*** Echoes various Act's and their powers were based respectively on "the sound of words" for Act 1, "the meaning of words" for Act 2, and "the weight of words" for Act 3. Hence why Three Freeze now weighs it's targets down, I would assume Act Three is applying the words in question when it punches the target, though that last part is just speculation.
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** Iggy was no regular dog, [[UpliftedAnimal he was a Stand-enhanced dog]], it is entirely possible his physiology did't work exactly the same as that of a regular dog anymore, and he had the dept perception to distinguish details in photos.
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** Star Platinum was weakened by a heart condition caused by Jotaro overusing Star Platinum: The World while hunting down evil Stand users for the past couple decades(something that was never an issue for DIO since his vampiric regeneration fixed any harm The World caused on him), it did not grow weak simply because he was older, had he not used the time stop as much or at all, Star Platinum would've been fine, plus, the heart condition hadn't kicked in yet in Diamond is Unbreakable, being still stated having the shining A in Durability during part 4.
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** The most troubling part is that Josuke attempted to use Kira's hand by healing it and thus make it into a tracking device to find Kira... except it is shown numerous times that Josuke not only restores anything to original form, but he has absurd precise control of how far his ability will go, if he punches down a concrete road, he can either fix it back into a road, or make the pieces be reduced to the tar used to make the concrete, to top it off, when Okuyasu was dragged into the energy line by Red Hot Chilly Peppers, Josuke pulled him back by healing the arm he had lost in the fight against RHCP, instead of using Kira's hand as a tracking device... he could have simply pulled Kira back by healing the hand and forcing Kira towards the hand rather than sending the hand to Kira, even if Kira tried to counter act this by cutting off his whole arm, Josuke could have simply repeated the process by healing the arm, there is only so much Kira could cut off before starting to target vital parts of his body, and even if they found risky to be in physical contact with Kira due to his bombs, Jotaro was extremelly close to Josuke at the time, he could have simply used Star Platinum: The World to kill Kira before Kira could act, just like they did in the finale, except if Josuke had just done the smart thing, Doctor Aya and Hayato's father would have lived.
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*** It's also worth note that Josuke fired the bullet by having Crazy Diamond flick the primer, almost as good as if fired from a real gun(minus the rifling of the barrel to help on trajectory), and had no sway from kickback since the Stand is just strong enough to hold back all the kickback from a .50 caliber bullet, Killer Queen is fast, but it is physically on the low end as far as power-type Stands go(remember that Crazy Diamond and Star Platinum have A-rank Destructive Power rating based on their physical ability alone, as they have no directly offensive powers), being only really powerful due to its many bomb effects, there is no indicative it is fast enough to stop a bullet like Star Platinum or Crazy Diamond, it also partially relies on Kira's own ability to see attacks coming to summon it to defend itself, and Kira couldn't posibly see a bullet coming unless he saw Josuke preparing to fire it and managed to figure out exactly what that is.
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*** It's also worth note that Josuke fired the bullet by having Crazy Diamond flick the primer, almost as good as if fired from a real gun(minus the rifling of the barrel to help on trajectory), and had no sway from kickback since the Stand is just strong enough to hold back all the kickback from a .50 caliber bullet, Killer Queen is fast, but it is physically on the low end as far as power-type Stands go(remember that Crazy Diamond and Star Platinum have A-rank Destructive Power rating based on their physical ability alone, as they have no directly offensive powers), being only really powerful due to its many bomb effects, there is no indicative it is fast enough to stop a bullet like Star Platinum or Crazy Diamond, it also partially relies on Kira's own ability to see attacks coming to summon it to defend itself, and Kira couldn't posibly see a bullet coming unless he saw Josuke preparing to fire it and managed to figure out exactly what that is.is.
* Of all of Josuke's "make money quick" schemes, did he never think of opening a "repair anything" business and use Crazy Diamond's power to make loads of easy money? ranging from electronics to cluttery to even family heirlooms like old feudal weapons, he can fix anything to prime condition in seconds, and here he wouldn't be scamming anyone like when he tried to cheat Rohan out of his money or having to literally fight Shigechi to near death to get his rightful share of a lottery ticket, he could even enlist Okuyasu's help to play the role of clerk to make it seem he is constantly busy working and make it less suspicious, and it is not like he would be the only one in town running a Stand-based business, both Tonio and Doctor Aya did similar, so why not?
* Of all of Josuke's "make money quick" schemes, did he never think of opening a "repair anything" business and use Crazy Diamond's power to make loads of easy money? ranging from electronics to cluttery to even family heirlooms like old feudal weapons, he can fix anything to prime condition in seconds, and here he wouldn't be scamming anyone like when he tried to cheat Rohan out of his money or having to literally fight Shigechi to near death to get his rightful share of a lottery ticket, he could even enlist Okuyasu's help to play the role of clerk to make it seem he is constantly busy working and make it less suspicious, and it is not like he would be the only one in town running a Stand-based business, both Tonio and Doctor Aya did similar, so why not?
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*** Only a stand can hurt a stand, sure. The stand user, however, is another matter entirely. If the user is seriously injured or killed, so is their stand. It wouldn't work on everyone, but it certainly would work on many, if not a majority of the enemies Jotaro faces. Also, for that matter, why wouldn't a hamon user use a gun? Metal conducts hamon. Guns are made of metal, and so are bullets. There is evidence that hamon works with projectiles, so why not just use a gun and infuse the bullets with hamon?
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*** Only a stand can hurt a stand, sure. The stand user, however, is another matter entirely. If the user is seriously injured or killed, so is their stand. It wouldn't work on everyone, but it certainly would work on many, if not a majority of the enemies Jotaro faces. Also, for that matter, why wouldn't a hamon user use a gun? Metal conducts hamon. Guns are made of metal, and so are bullets. There is evidence that hamon works with projectiles, so why not just use a gun and infuse the bullets with hamon?hamon?
*** It's also worth note that Josuke fired the bullet by having Crazy Diamond flick the primer, almost as good as if fired from a real gun(minus the rifling of the barrel to help on trajectory), and had no sway from kickback since the Stand is just strong enough to hold back all the kickback from a .50 caliber bullet, Killer Queen is fast, but it is physically on the low end as far as power-type Stands go(remember that Crazy Diamond and Star Platinum have A-rank Destructive Power rating based on their physical ability alone, as they have no directly offensive powers), being only really powerful due to its many bomb effects, there is no indicative it is fast enough to stop a bullet like Star Platinum or Crazy Diamond, it also partially relies on Kira's own ability to see attacks coming to summon it to defend itself, and Kira couldn't posibly see a bullet coming unless he saw Josuke preparing to fire it and managed to figure out exactly what that is.
*** It's also worth note that Josuke fired the bullet by having Crazy Diamond flick the primer, almost as good as if fired from a real gun(minus the rifling of the barrel to help on trajectory), and had no sway from kickback since the Stand is just strong enough to hold back all the kickback from a .50 caliber bullet, Killer Queen is fast, but it is physically on the low end as far as power-type Stands go(remember that Crazy Diamond and Star Platinum have A-rank Destructive Power rating based on their physical ability alone, as they have no directly offensive powers), being only really powerful due to its many bomb effects, there is no indicative it is fast enough to stop a bullet like Star Platinum or Crazy Diamond, it also partially relies on Kira's own ability to see attacks coming to summon it to defend itself, and Kira couldn't posibly see a bullet coming unless he saw Josuke preparing to fire it and managed to figure out exactly what that is.
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** It's possible the gun used on him wasn't custom-made, but rather repurposed from some other application, and the sight simply wasn't removed because it wasn't doing any harm.
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*** At least in the anime, he is shown having one, abeit very briefly, when he was taking his clothes off to put in the laundry for the day.
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*** This is the most likely answer, for Rohan it wasn't about the money, he has more money than he can figure out what to do with it(when he isn't bankrupt due to buying a brand new mountain range, that is), it was about the battle of wits between him and Josuke that he felt he was losing, it was never about the money.
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** Besides all those points, it is proven that vampires cannot use Hamon because it harms them, Straizo, after becoming a vampire in part 2, performs Hamon-induced suicide simply by channeling some Hamon energy through his body, even if Dio could use Hamon because of Jonathan's body, he likely wouldn't want to.
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** Holly's Stand didn't disappear, it was simply turned off, something Holly lacked the mental fortitude to do on her own as long as Dio was alive(but Joseph and Jotaro did), she is still a Stand user after Dio's death, it is just that her Stand is underdeveloped due to her being(comparatively) mentally weak.
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''TLDR:'' Jotaro doesn't use Time Stop+Bullets because it's too tiring and it likely wouldn't work anyway.
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''TLDR:'' Jotaro doesn't use Time Stop+Bullets because it's too tiring and it likely wouldn't work anyway.anyway.
*** Only a stand can hurt a stand, sure. The stand user, however, is another matter entirely. If the user is seriously injured or killed, so is their stand. It wouldn't work on everyone, but it certainly would work on many, if not a majority of the enemies Jotaro faces. Also, for that matter, why wouldn't a hamon user use a gun? Metal conducts hamon. Guns are made of metal, and so are bullets. There is evidence that hamon works with projectiles, so why not just use a gun and infuse the bullets with hamon?
*** Only a stand can hurt a stand, sure. The stand user, however, is another matter entirely. If the user is seriously injured or killed, so is their stand. It wouldn't work on everyone, but it certainly would work on many, if not a majority of the enemies Jotaro faces. Also, for that matter, why wouldn't a hamon user use a gun? Metal conducts hamon. Guns are made of metal, and so are bullets. There is evidence that hamon works with projectiles, so why not just use a gun and infuse the bullets with hamon?
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*** Thoth is also bound to a physical object, and stands that do that are almost always exempt from {{synchronization}} as well. The object the stand is possessing is what is damaged rather than the stand itself.
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** A few reasons. First, the only thing that can hurt stands is other stands, which means shooting at them (using bullets or ball bearings) is pointless. Second, most of the stands that Jotaro had fought in DIU had ways of circumventing ranged attacks aimed at their human users (Angelo stayed hidden for most of their fight, and when he finally got caught there was no need to use ranged attacks; Bug-Eaten was also hidden and had a long range stand, which is why Jotaro was using bullets on it in the first place; And [[spoiler:Killer Queen was easily fast enough to deflect ranged attacks that he could see coming, as he did against Josuke's glass shards during their fight]]). And third, Jotaro's time stop is extremely limited: his max limit for the entire series was 5 seconds, and as he explains during the Sheer Heart Attack fight, he doesn't like using it since it tires him out too much. Remember, if Jotaro uses Time Stop and fails, he can't use it again if his opponent decides to reciprocate (hence why Bug-Eaten could hit him with its bullets) despite him using time stop.
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** A few reasons. First, the only thing that can hurt stands is other stands, which means shooting at them (using bullets or ball bearings) is pointless. Second, most of the stands that Jotaro had fought in DIU had ways of circumventing ranged attacks aimed at their human users (Angelo stayed hidden for most of their fight, and when he finally got caught there was no need to use ranged attacks; Bug-Eaten was also hidden and had a long range stand, which is why Jotaro was using bullets on it in the first place; And [[spoiler:Killer Queen was easily fast enough to deflect ranged attacks that he could see coming, as he did against Josuke's glass shards during their fight]]). And third, Jotaro's time stop is extremely limited: his max limit for the entire series was 5 seconds, and as he explains during the Sheer Heart Attack fight, he doesn't like using it since it tires him out too much. Remember, if Jotaro uses Time Stop time stop and fails, he can't use it again if his opponent decides to reciprocate (hence why Bug-Eaten could hit him with its bullets) despite him using time stop.
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* Why does Jotaro just stick to punching things in every case except one? He has no problems using bullets to defeat Bug-Eaten, why not do that, or something similar, all of the time? The only real weakness Star Platinum has is it's short range, but Jotaro figures out a way to counteract that, then just never uses it again. Jotaro and SP would be virtually invincible if he would just shoot his enemies in stopped time. It's not like SP would miss, either, as being precise to a molecular level is literally one of it's stated abilities. Sure, guns aren't legal in Japan, but it doesn't stop him from getting what appear to be at least .50 caliber bullets in DiU, and I'm sure the Speedwagon Foundation could provide him with something as simple as ammunition.
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* Why does Jotaro just stick to punching things in every case except one? He has no problems using bullets to defeat Bug-Eaten, why not do that, or something similar, all of the time? The only real weakness Star Platinum has is it's short range, but Jotaro figures out a way to counteract that, then just never uses it again. Jotaro and SP would be virtually invincible if he would just shoot his enemies in stopped time. It's not like SP would miss, either, as being precise to a molecular level is literally one of it's stated abilities. Sure, guns aren't legal in Japan, but it doesn't stop him from getting what appear to be at least .50 caliber bullets in DiU, and I'm sure the Speedwagon Foundation could provide him with something as simple as ammunition.ammunition.
** A few reasons. First, the only thing that can hurt stands is other stands, which means shooting at them (using bullets or ball bearings) is pointless. Second, most of the stands that Jotaro had fought in DIU had ways of circumventing ranged attacks aimed at their human users (Angelo stayed hidden for most of their fight, and when he finally got caught there was no need to use ranged attacks; Bug-Eaten was also hidden and had a long range stand, which is why Jotaro was using bullets on it in the first place; And [[spoiler:Killer Queen was easily fast enough to deflect ranged attacks that he could see coming, as he did against Josuke's glass shards during their fight]]). And third, Jotaro's time stop is extremely limited: his max limit for the entire series was 5 seconds, and as he explains during the Sheer Heart Attack fight, he doesn't like using it since it tires him out too much. Remember, if Jotaro uses Time Stop and fails, he can't use it again if his opponent decides to reciprocate (hence why Bug-Eaten could hit him with its bullets) despite him using time stop.
''TLDR:'' Jotaro doesn't use Time Stop+Bullets because it's too tiring and it likely wouldn't work anyway.
** A few reasons. First, the only thing that can hurt stands is other stands, which means shooting at them (using bullets or ball bearings) is pointless. Second, most of the stands that Jotaro had fought in DIU had ways of circumventing ranged attacks aimed at their human users (Angelo stayed hidden for most of their fight, and when he finally got caught there was no need to use ranged attacks; Bug-Eaten was also hidden and had a long range stand, which is why Jotaro was using bullets on it in the first place; And [[spoiler:Killer Queen was easily fast enough to deflect ranged attacks that he could see coming, as he did against Josuke's glass shards during their fight]]). And third, Jotaro's time stop is extremely limited: his max limit for the entire series was 5 seconds, and as he explains during the Sheer Heart Attack fight, he doesn't like using it since it tires him out too much. Remember, if Jotaro uses Time Stop and fails, he can't use it again if his opponent decides to reciprocate (hence why Bug-Eaten could hit him with its bullets) despite him using time stop.
''TLDR:'' Jotaro doesn't use Time Stop+Bullets because it's too tiring and it likely wouldn't work anyway.
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* In Stone Ocean, when people and animals turned into snails (thanks to Heavy Weather bullshit power), a new threat appeared in the form of snail-eating bugs. Except if these bugs tried to eat people turned into snails, themselves would change into snails.
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* In Stone Ocean, when people and animals turned into snails (thanks to Heavy Weather bullshit power), a new threat appeared in the form of snail-eating bugs. Except if these bugs tried to eat people turned into snails, themselves would change into snails.snails.
* Why does Jotaro just stick to punching things in every case except one? He has no problems using bullets to defeat Bug-Eaten, why not do that, or something similar, all of the time? The only real weakness Star Platinum has is it's short range, but Jotaro figures out a way to counteract that, then just never uses it again. Jotaro and SP would be virtually invincible if he would just shoot his enemies in stopped time. It's not like SP would miss, either, as being precise to a molecular level is literally one of it's stated abilities. Sure, guns aren't legal in Japan, but it doesn't stop him from getting what appear to be at least .50 caliber bullets in DiU, and I'm sure the Speedwagon Foundation could provide him with something as simple as ammunition.
* Why does Jotaro just stick to punching things in every case except one? He has no problems using bullets to defeat Bug-Eaten, why not do that, or something similar, all of the time? The only real weakness Star Platinum has is it's short range, but Jotaro figures out a way to counteract that, then just never uses it again. Jotaro and SP would be virtually invincible if he would just shoot his enemies in stopped time. It's not like SP would miss, either, as being precise to a molecular level is literally one of it's stated abilities. Sure, guns aren't legal in Japan, but it doesn't stop him from getting what appear to be at least .50 caliber bullets in DiU, and I'm sure the Speedwagon Foundation could provide him with something as simple as ammunition.
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** Who said the corpse was the only way in the multiverse to get a stand? Even in the old universe, plenty of people were simply born with stands. The arrow wasn't always necessary.
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** Who said the corpse was the only way in the multiverse to get a stand? Even in the old universe, plenty of people were simply born with stands. The arrow wasn't always necessary.necessary.
*In Stone Ocean, when people and animals turned into snails (thanks to Heavy Weather bullshit power), a new threat appeared in the form of snail-eating bugs. Except if these bugs tried to eat people turned into snails, themselves would change into snails.
*In Stone Ocean, when people and animals turned into snails (thanks to Heavy Weather bullshit power), a new threat appeared in the form of snail-eating bugs. Except if these bugs tried to eat people turned into snails, themselves would change into snails.
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*** That's a stupid answer... If you move in stopped time you're actively using your stopping time ability. That's why sometimes Jotaro can only move 1 second inside of Dio's stopped time. He used up everything.
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** I think Araki gave this power and the "if Gold Experience punches you, you're slowed down" to Giorno because he would have been way too weak to fight Buccelatti. But yeah after that he just dropped these powers.
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** It's a weekly published manga, Araki didn't plan that much ahead.
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** Don't look too deep into it, it's just much more tense if Bucciarati stacked his life. If Sticky Fingers could stop anyone's heartbeat with a punch he would be too strong.
