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**** Well, J.J. has been depicted this way in a lot of adaptations. The oldest adaptation I remember the most was the 1981 Spider-Man series wherein J.J. always raged against Spider-Man but praised Doctor Doom every time the tyrant was around due to propaganda which J.J. kinda unintentionally helped spread. J.J. does talk about other things like what happened in the pilot episodes of WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble but his rants against Spider-Man are so common that it's hard to think of him doing anything else.
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**** Well, J.J. has been depicted this way in a lot of adaptations. The oldest adaptation I remember the most was the 1981 Spider-Man series wherein J.J. always raged against Spider-Man but praised Doctor Doom every time the tyrant was around due to propaganda which J.J. kinda unintentionally helped spread. J.J. does talk about other things like what happened in the pilot episodes of WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble but his rants against Spider-Man are so common that it's hard to think of him doing anything else.else.
* Saw an episode preview where Hulk says "Calm down!". How is this possible? Isn't he supposed to be angry and not that calmed?
* Saw an episode preview where Hulk says "Calm down!". How is this possible? Isn't he supposed to be angry and not that calmed?
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*** Gosh, talk about {{Flanderization}}... makes sense, though.
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*** Gosh, talk about {{Flanderization}}... makes sense, though.though.
**** Well, J.J. has been depicted this way in a lot of adaptations. The oldest adaptation I remember the most was the 1981 Spider-Man series wherein J.J. always raged against Spider-Man but praised Doctor Doom every time the tyrant was around due to propaganda which J.J. kinda unintentionally helped spread. J.J. does talk about other things like what happened in the pilot episodes of WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble but his rants against Spider-Man are so common that it's hard to think of him doing anything else.
**** Well, J.J. has been depicted this way in a lot of adaptations. The oldest adaptation I remember the most was the 1981 Spider-Man series wherein J.J. always raged against Spider-Man but praised Doctor Doom every time the tyrant was around due to propaganda which J.J. kinda unintentionally helped spread. J.J. does talk about other things like what happened in the pilot episodes of WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble but his rants against Spider-Man are so common that it's hard to think of him doing anything else.
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** The Collector stated he relied on James Jonah Jameson's rants as his source of who's a hero and who's not. Since J.J. always exaggerates how much Spider-Man is a menace, only praises those that are not Spider-Man even if some might be villains, exaggerated how much the Hulk was just as bad as Spider-Man in the episode proper, and nothing else, it's likely that J.J. either praised how good Red was or most likely didn't give Red any focus at all. Based on that, it's likely the Collector captured Red on false assumptions made by the biggest offender of yellow journalism in the Marvel franchise.
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** The Collector stated he relied on James Jonah Jameson's rants as his source of who's a hero and who's not. Since J.J. always exaggerates how much Spider-Man is a menace, only praises those that are not Spider-Man even if some might be villains, exaggerated how much the Hulk was just as bad as Spider-Man in the episode proper, and nothing else, it's likely that J.J. either praised how good Red was or most likely didn't give Red any focus at all. Based on that, it's likely the Collector captured Red on false assumptions made by the biggest offender of yellow journalism in the Marvel franchise.franchise.
*** Gosh, talk about {{Flanderization}}... makes sense, though.
*** Gosh, talk about {{Flanderization}}... makes sense, though.
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* The Collector said he didn't take Spider-Man and Hulk because they were menaces, and as such didn't qualify as heroes. By that logic, why did he take ''Red Hulk'', who is both a former villain and explicitly stated in the ''pilote'' to be feared by everybody ?!
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* The Collector said he didn't take Spider-Man and Hulk because they were menaces, and as such didn't qualify as heroes. By that logic, why did he take ''Red Hulk'', who is both a former villain and explicitly stated in the ''pilote'' to be feared by everybody ?!?!
** The Collector stated he relied on James Jonah Jameson's rants as his source of who's a hero and who's not. Since J.J. always exaggerates how much Spider-Man is a menace, only praises those that are not Spider-Man even if some might be villains, exaggerated how much the Hulk was just as bad as Spider-Man in the episode proper, and nothing else, it's likely that J.J. either praised how good Red was or most likely didn't give Red any focus at all. Based on that, it's likely the Collector captured Red on false assumptions made by the biggest offender of yellow journalism in the Marvel franchise.
** The Collector stated he relied on James Jonah Jameson's rants as his source of who's a hero and who's not. Since J.J. always exaggerates how much Spider-Man is a menace, only praises those that are not Spider-Man even if some might be villains, exaggerated how much the Hulk was just as bad as Spider-Man in the episode proper, and nothing else, it's likely that J.J. either praised how good Red was or most likely didn't give Red any focus at all. Based on that, it's likely the Collector captured Red on false assumptions made by the biggest offender of yellow journalism in the Marvel franchise.
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*** Yeah, actually this bugged me too. It seems really too conventient that this jet ''precisely'' split into five when their team didn't exist a few minutes ago, and Hulk couldn't possibly has any clue that Ricky would turn into A-Bomb or Skaar would join them. At least, in the various TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles series for exemple, they took time to explain how the Turtles got their vehicles and built them.
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*** Yeah, actually this bugged me too. It seems really too conventient that this jet ''precisely'' split into five when their team didn't exist a few minutes ago, and Hulk couldn't possibly has have any clue that Ricky would turn into A-Bomb or Skaar would join them. At least, in the various TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles series for exemple, they took time to explain how the Turtles got their vehicles and built them.
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** The Hulkbuster for her may not be so much for when she loses control as if she goes rogue. If it ever comes to a point that She-Hulk needs to be stopped for whatever reason, there's a Hulkbuster for it.
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** The Hulkbuster for her may not be so much for when she loses control as if she goes rogue. If it ever comes to a point that She-Hulk needs to be stopped for whatever reason, there's a Hulkbuster for it.it.
* The Collector said he didn't take Spider-Man and Hulk because they were menaces, and as such didn't qualify as heroes. By that logic, why did he take ''Red Hulk'', who is both a former villain and explicitly stated in the ''pilote'' to be feared by everybody ?!
* The Collector said he didn't take Spider-Man and Hulk because they were menaces, and as such didn't qualify as heroes. By that logic, why did he take ''Red Hulk'', who is both a former villain and explicitly stated in the ''pilote'' to be feared by everybody ?!
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** She did have control issues when she first started in the comics, but we don't really know what the circumstances are for this show. Also, it strikes me as pretty in character for Stark to just keep making a new Hulkbuster every time a Hulk character shows up and not really thinking through the consequences until after Jen shows up complaining about it.
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** She did have control issues when she first started in the comics, but we don't really know what the circumstances are for this show. Also, it strikes me as pretty in character for Stark to just keep making a new Hulkbuster every time a Hulk character shows up and not really thinking through the consequences until after Jen shows up complaining about it.
** The Hulkbuster for her may not be so much for when she loses control as if she goes rogue. If it ever comes to a point that She-Hulk needs to be stopped for whatever reason, there's a Hulkbuster for it.
** The Hulkbuster for her may not be so much for when she loses control as if she goes rogue. If it ever comes to a point that She-Hulk needs to be stopped for whatever reason, there's a Hulkbuster for it.
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*** Which raises more questions than it eliminates. If she doesn't have control issues and can change at will (though that's obviously not confirmed and she probably can't do that here) it raises the question of why make a Hulkbuster for Jen?
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*** Which raises more questions than it eliminates. If she doesn't have control issues and can change at will (though that's obviously not confirmed and she probably can't do that here) it raises the question of why make a Hulkbuster for Jen?Jen?
** She did have control issues when she first started in the comics, but we don't really know what the circumstances are for this show. Also, it strikes me as pretty in character for Stark to just keep making a new Hulkbuster every time a Hulk character shows up and not really thinking through the consequences until after Jen shows up complaining about it.
** She did have control issues when she first started in the comics, but we don't really know what the circumstances are for this show. Also, it strikes me as pretty in character for Stark to just keep making a new Hulkbuster every time a Hulk character shows up and not really thinking through the consequences until after Jen shows up complaining about it.
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** She can ''usually'' change back at will, but sometimes she can't.
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** She can ''usually'' change back at will, but sometimes she can't.can't.
*** Which raises more questions than it eliminates. If she doesn't have control issues and can change at will (though that's obviously not confirmed and she probably can't do that here) it raises the question of why make a Hulkbuster for Jen?
*** Which raises more questions than it eliminates. If she doesn't have control issues and can change at will (though that's obviously not confirmed and she probably can't do that here) it raises the question of why make a Hulkbuster for Jen?
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* Two headscratchers come to mind. The first is hasn't She Hulk always been in complete control of herself? To the point that in most versions she's a lawyer not a stuntwoman and how much time is supposed to have passed between the Pilot and Hulk Busted? I can understand having one for Hulk, one for Red Hulk and possibly one for She Hulk (if you're paranoid) but why and how would he have one for Skaar and A-Bomb? I know he's a fast working genius but it's hard to buy.
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* Two headscratchers come to mind. The first is hasn't She Hulk always been in complete control of herself? To the point that in most versions she's a lawyer not a stuntwoman and how much time is supposed to have passed between the Pilot and Hulk Busted? I can understand having one for Hulk, one for Red Hulk and possibly one for She Hulk (if you're paranoid) but why and how would he have one for Skaar and A-Bomb? I know he's a fast working genius but it's hard to buy.buy.
** She can ''usually'' change back at will, but sometimes she can't.
** She can ''usually'' change back at will, but sometimes she can't.
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*** Yeah, actually this bugged me too. It seems really too conventient that this jet ''precisely'' split into five when their team didn't exist a few minutes ago, and Hulk couldn't possibly has any clue that Ricky would turn into A-Bomb or Skaar would join them. At least, in the various TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles series for exemple, they took time to explain how the Turtles got their vehicles and built them.
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*** Yeah, actually this bugged me too. It seems really too conventient that this jet ''precisely'' split into five when their team didn't exist a few minutes ago, and Hulk couldn't possibly has any clue that Ricky would turn into A-Bomb or Skaar would join them. At least, in the various TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles series for exemple, they took time to explain how the Turtles got their vehicles and built them.them.
* Two headscratchers come to mind. The first is hasn't She Hulk always been in complete control of herself? To the point that in most versions she's a lawyer not a stuntwoman and how much time is supposed to have passed between the Pilot and Hulk Busted? I can understand having one for Hulk, one for Red Hulk and possibly one for She Hulk (if you're paranoid) but why and how would he have one for Skaar and A-Bomb? I know he's a fast working genius but it's hard to buy.
* Two headscratchers come to mind. The first is hasn't She Hulk always been in complete control of herself? To the point that in most versions she's a lawyer not a stuntwoman and how much time is supposed to have passed between the Pilot and Hulk Busted? I can understand having one for Hulk, one for Red Hulk and possibly one for She Hulk (if you're paranoid) but why and how would he have one for Skaar and A-Bomb? I know he's a fast working genius but it's hard to buy.
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*** Yeah, actually this bugged me too. It seems really too conventient that this jet ''precisely'' split into five when their team didn't exist a few minutes ago, and Hulk couldn't possibly has any clue that Ricky would turn into A-Bomb or Skaar would join them. At least, in the various TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles series for exemple, they took to explain how the Turtles got their vehicles and built them.
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*** Yeah, actually this bugged me too. It seems really too conventient that this jet ''precisely'' split into five when their team didn't exist a few minutes ago, and Hulk couldn't possibly has any clue that Ricky would turn into A-Bomb or Skaar would join them. At least, in the various TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles series for exemple, they took time to explain how the Turtles got their vehicles and built them.
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***** Maybe they'll explain in the show?
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** I had assumed it was mothballed Hulkbuster tech that Hulk had re-purposed for convenience.
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** I had assumed it was mothballed Hulkbuster tech that Hulk had re-purposed for convenience.convenience.
*** Yeah, actually this bugged me too. It seems really too conventient that this jet ''precisely'' split into five when their team didn't exist a few minutes ago, and Hulk couldn't possibly has any clue that Ricky would turn into A-Bomb or Skaar would join them. At least, in the various TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles series for exemple, they took to explain how the Turtles got their vehicles and built them.
*** Yeah, actually this bugged me too. It seems really too conventient that this jet ''precisely'' split into five when their team didn't exist a few minutes ago, and Hulk couldn't possibly has any clue that Ricky would turn into A-Bomb or Skaar would join them. At least, in the various TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles series for exemple, they took to explain how the Turtles got their vehicles and built them.
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* Why does Hulk who at best had two friends he'd take into battle (Red Hulk and She Hulk) and She Hulk mentions that Bruce never asks for help,have a jet that can be broken into five separate jets? That just doesn't seem like the kind of thing a guy who works alone and travels by leaping miles at a time would have lying around.
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* Why does Hulk who at best had two friends he'd take into battle (Red Hulk and She Hulk) and She Hulk mentions that Bruce never asks for help,have a jet that can be broken into five separate jets? That just doesn't seem like the kind of thing a guy who works alone and travels by leaping miles at a time would have lying around.around.
** I had assumed it was mothballed Hulkbuster tech that Hulk had re-purposed for convenience.
** I had assumed it was mothballed Hulkbuster tech that Hulk had re-purposed for convenience.
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**** Which brings me back to my original question: when and why?
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* Is Skarr hulk's son? In comics he was born after the Planet Hulk storyline when Hulk was married on an alien planet Skaar mentions that The Leader knows his past does that mean that mean he's not Hulk's son or is there some sort of arc in the works?
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* Is Skarr hulk's son? In comics he was born after the Planet Hulk storyline when Hulk was married on an alien planet Skaar mentions that The Leader [[spoiler:The Leader]] knows his past does that mean that mean he's not Hulk's son or is there some sort of arc in the works?
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** It's stated very early in the episode that he has an easier time controlling it at his base. There are plenty of places in America and around the world where he could be just as or more isolated from people which makes me think there is something special about the locale. Perhaps his fan club helps though that child certainly wasn't at all frightened of him.
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*** This is where the whole "Mindless Days" line from the first episode mentioned above came from. For whatever reason, they skipped to [i]after[/i] all that. Presumably, Red Hulk went though a HeelFaceTurn during that time.
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*** This is where the whole "Mindless Days" line from the first episode mentioned above came from. For whatever reason, they skipped to [i]after[/i] all that. Presumably, Red Hulk went though a HeelFaceTurn during that time.time.
* Why does Hulk who at best had two friends he'd take into battle (Red Hulk and She Hulk) and She Hulk mentions that Bruce never asks for help,have a jet that can be broken into five separate jets? That just doesn't seem like the kind of thing a guy who works alone and travels by leaping miles at a time would have lying around.
* Why does Hulk who at best had two friends he'd take into battle (Red Hulk and She Hulk) and She Hulk mentions that Bruce never asks for help,have a jet that can be broken into five separate jets? That just doesn't seem like the kind of thing a guy who works alone and travels by leaping miles at a time would have lying around.
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** He doesn't know, but [[spoiler: The Leader]] does.
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* Is Skarr hulk's son? In comics he was Hulk's son born after the Planet Hulk storyline when he Hulk was married on an alien planet Skaar mentions that The Leader knows his past does that mean that mean he's not Hulk's son or is there some sort of arc in the works?
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*** Well, yeah, I can tell he's still a bit of a jerk (the show will probably turn that into a character arc) but I find it hard to believe that he could go from ArchEnemy to VitriolicBestBuds with Hulk. He actually seemed to think of himself as Hulk's buddy in the first episode. The guy who once tried to crush a whole boat of civilians and would stop at nothing to capture Hulk.
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*** Well, yeah, I can tell he's still a bit of a jerk (the show will probably turn that into a character arc) but I find it hard to believe that he could go from ArchEnemy to VitriolicBestBuds with Hulk. He actually seemed to think of himself as Hulk's buddy in the first episode. The guy who once tried to crush a whole boat of civilians and would stop at nothing to capture Hulk.Hulk.
*** This is where the whole "Mindless Days" line from the first episode mentioned above came from. For whatever reason, they skipped to [i]after[/i] all that. Presumably, Red Hulk went though a HeelFaceTurn during that time.
*** This is where the whole "Mindless Days" line from the first episode mentioned above came from. For whatever reason, they skipped to [i]after[/i] all that. Presumably, Red Hulk went though a HeelFaceTurn during that time.
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** Rest assured, he's still an ass. In any case, Hulkification tends to bring out the repressed parts of yourself. In the show's case, it seems that the whole Red Hulk thing first happened some time ago, and they've smashed out (most of) their differences since then.
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** Rest assured, he's still an ass. In any case, Hulkification tends to bring out the repressed parts of yourself. In the show's case, it seems that the whole Red Hulk thing first happened some time ago, and they've smashed out (most of) their differences since then.then.
*** Well, yeah, I can tell he's still a bit of a jerk (the show will probably turn that into a character arc) but I find it hard to believe that he could go from ArchEnemy to VitriolicBestBuds with Hulk. He actually seemed to think of himself as Hulk's buddy in the first episode. The guy who once tried to crush a whole boat of civilians and would stop at nothing to capture Hulk.
*** Well, yeah, I can tell he's still a bit of a jerk (the show will probably turn that into a character arc) but I find it hard to believe that he could go from ArchEnemy to VitriolicBestBuds with Hulk. He actually seemed to think of himself as Hulk's buddy in the first episode. The guy who once tried to crush a whole boat of civilians and would stop at nothing to capture Hulk.
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*** Well for one thing the Hulk is driven on anger while the Thing isn't. It was mentioned in episode 1 he had mindless days, so it's implied he's had a destructive past, with his new controlled intelligence being a new thing.If it's connected to Ultimate Spider-Man then until recently he couldn't talk and didn't have as much control over himself.
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*** Well for one thing the Hulk is driven on anger while the Thing isn't. It was mentioned in episode 1 he had mindless days, so it's implied he's had a destructive past, with his new controlled intelligence being a new thing.If it's connected to Ultimate Spider-Man then until recently he couldn't talk and didn't have as much control over himself. himself.
** Red Hulk points out it comes with the powers, he uses himself as an example when he says when was a General he was feared ''and'' respected, now he's just ''feared''.
** Red Hulk points out it comes with the powers, he uses himself as an example when he says when was a General he was feared ''and'' respected, now he's just ''feared''.
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* When did Ross/Red Hulk suddenly [[TookALevelInKindness decide not to be ]][[GeneralRipper such an ass]]?
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** Rest assured, he's still an ass. In any case, Hulkification tends to bring out the repressed parts of yourself. In the show's case, it seems that the whole Red Hulk thing first happened some time ago, and they've smashed out (most of) their differences since then.
** Rest assured, he's still an ass. In any case, Hulkification tends to bring out the repressed parts of yourself. In the show's case, it seems that the whole Red Hulk thing first happened some time ago, and they've smashed out (most of) their differences since then.
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*** Well for one thing the Hulk is driven on anger while the Thing isn't. It was mentioned in episode 1 he had mindless days, so it's implied he's had a destructive past, with his new controlled intelligence being a new thing.If it's connected to Ultimate Spider-Man then until recently he couldn't talk and didn't have as much control over himself.
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* When did Ross Ross/Red Hulk suddenly [[TookALevelInKindness decide not to be]][[GeneralRipper be ]][[GeneralRipper such an ass]]?
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** My guess, Skarr is [[FishOutOfTemporalWater from the future]]
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** My guess, Skarr is [[FishOutOfTemporalWater from the future]]future]]
* When did Ross [[TookALevelInKindness decide not to be]][[GeneralRipper such an ass]]?
* When did Ross [[TookALevelInKindness decide not to be]][[GeneralRipper such an ass]]?
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*** Again, if that's the case then there's no reason the Thing shouldn't be on the run from the military as well.
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*** Again, if that's the case then there's no reason the Thing shouldn't be on the run from the military as well. And, more importantly, it also takes away a big part of his character.
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* Is Skarr hulk's son? In comics he was Hulk's son after the Planet Hulk storyline when he was married on an alien planet Skaar mentions that The Leader knows his past does that mean that mean he's not Hulk's son or is there some sort of arc in the works?
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*** Again, if that's the case then there's no reason the Thing shouldn't be on the run from the military as well.
* Is Skarr hulk's son? In comics he was Hulk's son after the Planet Hulk storyline when he was married on an alien planet Skaar mentions that The Leader knows his past does that mean that mean he's not Hulk's son or is there some sort of arc in theworks?works?
** My guess, Skarr is [[FishOutOfTemporalWater from the future]]
* Is Skarr hulk's son? In comics he was Hulk's son after the Planet Hulk storyline when he was married on an alien planet Skaar mentions that The Leader knows his past does that mean that mean he's not Hulk's son or is there some sort of arc in the
** My guess, Skarr is [[FishOutOfTemporalWater from the future]]
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* This Hulk doesn't seem to have any anger or control issues. Does anyone else think that kinda takes away a big part of Hulk's whole CursedWithAwesome shtick? Why is he even seen as a monster in this version if he's really no different from the Thing here?
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* This Hulk doesn't seem to have any anger or control issues. Does anyone else think that kinda takes away a big part of Hulk's whole CursedWithAwesome shtick? Why is he even seen as a monster in this version if he's really no different from the Thing here?here?
** Its more how people see him besides the people in his home town everybody else still thinks he's a monster.
* Is Skarr hulk's son? In comics he was Hulk's son after the Planet Hulk storyline when he was married on an alien planet Skaar mentions that The Leader knows his past does that mean that mean he's not Hulk's son or is there some sort of arc in the works?
** Its more how people see him besides the people in his home town everybody else still thinks he's a monster.
* Is Skarr hulk's son? In comics he was Hulk's son after the Planet Hulk storyline when he was married on an alien planet Skaar mentions that The Leader knows his past does that mean that mean he's not Hulk's son or is there some sort of arc in the works?
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