History Headscratchers / Hercules

20th Apr '16 7:49:28 PM darksoul4242
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** But that's the point - he didn't rescue her legally. He said that he would stay in the Underworld if he managed get Meg out of the river. Instead, he punches ''Hades'' into the river and leaves. Herc had said, "If I die, you can have us both, but if I live, then we both go free," ''then'' it would've been legal had he escaped. It would have been done through a previously-unseen loophole, but it still would've been legal.

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** But that's the point - he didn't rescue her legally. He said that he would stay in the Underworld if he managed get Meg out of the river. Instead, he punches ''Hades'' into the river and leaves. Had Herc had said, "If I die, you can have us both, but if I live, then we both go free," ''then'' it would've been legal had even if he escaped. It would have been done through a previously-unseen loophole, but it still would've been legal.
20th Apr '16 7:47:42 PM darksoul4242
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* Note: I haven't seen the TV Series so my problem just apply to the movie. Why was Phil so obsess about the constellation thing? We clearly saw in his hall of heroes the statue of Perseus which also has one. Seriously, this borders FridgeLogic.

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* Note: I haven't seen the TV Series so my problem just apply to the movie. Why was Phil so obsess obsessed about the constellation thing? We clearly saw in his hall of heroes the statue of Perseus which also has one. Seriously, this borders FridgeLogic.



*** I haven't watched an episode of the series in quite some time, but maybe he thought it was a different kid? Didn't Ares - as in, one of the gods living on Olympus who would have knowledge of the fact Hercules was alive - not reconize him until it was pointed out by Athena (I think)?
*** They did address this in the series. Hades knew he was alive it would be hard not to find out. In the last or second to last episode they introduced a younger Megera and she enlists Hercules's help in finding the PlotDevice an urn full of Lethe water. the urn is tumped over on Hades, pain, panic, and Megera Resulting in them developing LaserGuidedAmnesia.
** I totally agree with the complainer on this one. It's one of the most argued points in the movie. Yes, lots of people pass through the Underworld, but this is Hercules, son of a god and the guy who could bust up a plan for total global domination. You'd think Hades would have been paying attention for his death. Also, Zeus (who seems fairly pally with Hades, even if it's not returned) mentions that the gods DID search for Hercules. He would surely have asked his brother Hades to help out? And sure, Hades wouldn't be looking very hard, but surely that would mean he would find out through the grapevine, as they say, that Hercules was alive but mortal.

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*** I haven't watched an episode of the series in quite some time, but maybe he thought it was a different kid? Didn't Ares - as in, one of the gods living on Olympus who would have knowledge of the fact Hercules was alive - not reconize recognize him until it was pointed out by Athena (I think)?
*** They did address this in the series. Hades knew he was alive it would be hard not to find out. In the last or second to last episode they introduced a younger Megera Megara and she enlists Hercules's help in finding the PlotDevice an urn full of Lethe water. the The urn is tumped over on Hades, pain, panic, Pain, Panic, and Megera Megara Resulting in them developing LaserGuidedAmnesia.
** I totally agree with the complainer on this one. It's one of the most argued points in the movie. Yes, lots of people pass through the Underworld, but this is Hercules, son of a god and the guy who could bust up a plan for total global domination. You'd think Hades would have been paying attention for to his death. Also, Zeus (who seems fairly pally with Hades, even if it's not returned) mentions that the gods DID search for Hercules. He would surely have asked his brother Hades to help out? And sure, Hades wouldn't be looking very hard, but surely that would mean he would find out through the grapevine, as they say, that Hercules was alive but mortal.
16th Mar '16 12:45:53 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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* Why doesn't Hades just kill Hercules himself? He seems capable enough, given that Hercules can't directly challenge him until he attains godhood. And if he's worried about Zeus or the other gods finding out then it'd seem ill-advised to personally meet with Hercules at all. He could have waited until moments before the titans were due to be released, offed the demigod, then continued on with his plan unmolested.

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* Why doesn't Hades just kill Hercules himself? He seems capable enough, given that Hercules can't directly challenge him until he attains godhood. And if he's worried about Zeus or the other gods finding out then it'd seem ill-advised to personally meet with Hercules at all. He could have waited until moments before the titans were due to be released, offed the demigod, then continued on with his plan unmolested.unmolested.
** The Greek gods were pictured as being flawed, imperfect, and most of all, ''not'' all-powerful. As mighty as they were, they still couldn't do whatever they wanted to whoever they wanted, hence why Hades made that deal with Hercules in the end. As for confronting him in person, the Titans were to be released soon at that point, meaning Hades didn't have time to think up another way of exploiting Hercules' weakness, and that the gods would be done away with soon enough once he succeeded in taking over.
7th Mar '16 8:46:47 AM Zozma
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*** Yes that was a "Percy Jackson" reference. Maybe Meg's frightened and heartbroken enough to be planning to throw herself off the edge

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*** Yes that was a "Percy Jackson" reference. Maybe Meg's frightened and heartbroken enough to be planning to throw herself off the edgeedge

*Why doesn't Hades just kill Hercules himself? He seems capable enough, given that Hercules can't directly challenge him until he attains godhood. And if he's worried about Zeus or the other gods finding out then it'd seem ill-advised to personally meet with Hercules at all. He could have waited until moments before the titans were due to be released, offed the demigod, then continued on with his plan unmolested.
18th Feb '16 9:10:13 AM Peridonyx
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*** Fortunately, The Animated Series reveals that the Elysian part is actually ruled by Zeus, while Hades just rules the neutral Underworld and the Tartarus section.
4th Feb '16 12:49:01 PM roxana
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** ...Was that a ''Percy Jackson'' reference you were going for? Well, anyway, the girl was pretty much heartbroken at that point. Chances are she was just going to go sit somewhere out of sight from the gods and wait for one of them to use their powers to send her back to earth. She may also have been somewhat afraid of them, as well, as she served, albiet unwillingly, under someone who had only recently tried to overthrow them all, and it was thanks to her involvement that he nearly succeeded.

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** ...Was that a ''Percy Jackson'' reference you were going for? Well, anyway, the girl was pretty much heartbroken at that point. Chances are she was just going to go sit somewhere out of sight from the gods and wait for one of them to use their powers to send her back to earth. She may also have been somewhat afraid of them, as well, as she served, albiet unwillingly, under someone who had only recently tried to overthrow them all, and it was thanks to her involvement that he nearly succeeded.succeeded.
*** Yes that was a "Percy Jackson" reference. Maybe Meg's frightened and heartbroken enough to be planning to throw herself off the edge
27th Jan '16 11:23:48 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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*** they did address this in the series. Hades knew he was alive it would be hard not to find out. In the last or second to last episode they introduced a younger Megera and she enlists Hercules's help in finding the PlotDevice an urn full of Lethe water. the urn is tumped over on Hades, pain, panic, and Megera Resulting in them developing LaserGuidedAmnesia.

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*** they They did address this in the series. Hades knew he was alive it would be hard not to find out. In the last or second to last episode they introduced a younger Megera and she enlists Hercules's help in finding the PlotDevice an urn full of Lethe water. the urn is tumped over on Hades, pain, panic, and Megera Resulting in them developing LaserGuidedAmnesia.



** He almost did see his brother's demise as he was about to crush him with all four TItans.

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** He almost did see his brother's demise as he was about For what it's worth, in the ''House of Mouse'' TV series, Hades says at one point: "Maleficent… a name to crush him warm my soul. You know, if I had one." So yes, perhaps Hades believes that gods don't have souls proper.[[note]]That does make sense: the gods do not seem to be really physical in the movie, more like made of smoke. It's reasonable to assume that they might not be "a body with all four TItans.
a soul in it" but rather "a powered-up soul"… Destroying a god would be destroying the soul, there's no searching for an inner soul of the first soul.[[/note]]
16th Jan '16 1:39:54 AM whisperstar13
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** Also, the thing that was troubling Herc most of all at that point was that Meg had betrayed him by helping Hades all this time, not that he had lost his strength. Her giving it back to him by finding some way of hurting herself, even if it would've have worked, wasn't what Hercules needed - he needed a pep talk to help lift his spirits, and Meg knew that only Phil could do that for him, so she went to find him.
10th Jan '16 12:09:32 PM whisperstar13
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* Um, where exactly does Meg think she's going? She's on ''OLYMPUS'' for gods' sake. Is she looking for the elevator?

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* Um, where exactly does Meg think she's going? She's on ''OLYMPUS'' for gods' sake. Is she looking for the elevator?elevator?
** ...Was that a ''Percy Jackson'' reference you were going for? Well, anyway, the girl was pretty much heartbroken at that point. Chances are she was just going to go sit somewhere out of sight from the gods and wait for one of them to use their powers to send her back to earth. She may also have been somewhat afraid of them, as well, as she served, albiet unwillingly, under someone who had only recently tried to overthrow them all, and it was thanks to her involvement that he nearly succeeded.
6th Jan '16 5:11:33 PM roxana
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* So Hades' driving motivation throughout this film is his job - he claims to be so busy down in the Underworld that he doesn't ever have a chance to spend time on Olympus with the other gods, and he despises Zeus for forcing his duties upon him. But what work is he really talking about that keeps him so preoccupied and hateful? He apparently doesn't really oversee the passage of the dead, as he didn't know Hercules hadn't been killed as a baby, and we never see him in the Underworld throughout the rest of the movie until the end, meaning there presumably wouldn't be much that he's neglecting to do down there.

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* So Hades' driving motivation throughout this film is his job - he claims to be so busy down in the Underworld that he doesn't ever have a chance to spend time on Olympus with the other gods, and he despises Zeus for forcing his duties upon him. But what work is he really talking about that keeps him so preoccupied and hateful? He apparently doesn't really oversee the passage of the dead, as he didn't know Hercules hadn't been killed as a baby, and we never see him in the Underworld throughout the rest of the movie until the end, meaning there presumably wouldn't be much that he's neglecting to do down there.there.

* Um, where exactly does Meg think she's going? She's on ''OLYMPUS'' for gods' sake. Is she looking for the elevator?
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