History Headscratchers / Hercules

6th Mar '17 5:46:38 AM tafelshrew
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** In Greek mythology, the Olympian gods hate the Underworld - it's dark, it's underground, and it's full of dead people. Maybe Disney!Hades just hates having to work and live there at all.
10th Feb '17 2:40:22 PM Kittencakes
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* Meta: Is there any reason why Disney hasn't tried to do some sort of reboot or remake of ''Hercules''? I don't mean just a retelling of this same story with the same anachronisms and the goofy tone, but just a new take on depicting one of the stories of Ancient Greece. They've had two movies about life on the Polynesian islands and two of them concerning Pre-Columbian natives, so why would making another movie about the myths of Ancient Greece be that much of a stretch? I've seen this movie so many times, and the narrator's first few words before the Muses cut in have always given me such an epic image of how such a movie could play out, if done right.

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* Meta: Is there any reason why Disney hasn't tried to do some sort of reboot or remake of ''Hercules''? I don't mean just a retelling of this same story with the same anachronisms and the goofy tone, but just a new take on depicting one of the stories of Ancient Greece. They've had two movies about life on the Polynesian islands and two of them concerning Pre-Columbian natives, so why would making another movie about the myths of Ancient Greece be that much of a stretch? I've seen this movie so many times, and the narrator's first few words before the Muses cut in have always given me such an epic image of how such a movie could play out, if done right.right.
** Keep in mind that not all Disney films are made by the same people. There are different directors, script writers, producers, etc. that want to touch on different subjects/stories and wouldn't want to seem to repeat themselves. I figure something like Moana and Lilo and Stitch can get away with it since they only share in common the Polynesian setting, but instead a film with the same setting and mythology/story origin like Hercules could seem repetitive to some audiences. I also think maybe Disney doesn't care much about Hercules (the film) itself and would rather focus on different movies, or maybe they just feel greek mythology has been touched a lot in outside media so they don't need to add their "touch" to it (sorta like how they avoided for years superhero films until the Marvel buyout, or how they don't tend to touch classic novels/plays outside of Hunchback).
31st Jan '17 8:08:38 PM alfalfa
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** Actually, Heracles diverted the rivers Alpheus and Peneus, not the Styx.
3rd Dec '16 1:18:29 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** Because if he remains a god, Meg will eventually grow old and die, while he won't have aged a day. By the end of the film, immortal life has come to mean nothing to him if she isn't in it. Principle could play into it, as well - if the people were to have one of the immortal gods of Olympus living among them like a mortal, it might take away from the dignified image the gods are trying to impose.

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** Because if he remains a god, Meg will eventually grow old and die, while he won't have aged a day. By the end of the film, immortal life has come to mean nothing to him if she isn't in it. Principle could play into it, as well - if the people were to have one of the immortal gods of Olympus living among them like a mortal, it might take away from the dignified image the gods are trying to impose.impose.

* Meta: Is there any reason why Disney hasn't tried to do some sort of reboot or remake of ''Hercules''? I don't mean just a retelling of this same story with the same anachronisms and the goofy tone, but just a new take on depicting one of the stories of Ancient Greece. They've had two movies about life on the Polynesian islands and two of them concerning Pre-Columbian natives, so why would making another movie about the myths of Ancient Greece be that much of a stretch? I've seen this movie so many times, and the narrator's first few words before the Muses cut in have always given me such an epic image of how such a movie could play out, if done right.
19th Nov '16 10:09:28 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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* Did Hercules really have to give up his godhood to stay with Meg? He could have just asked his parents if he could stay with Meg while retaining his godhood and Herc could just come up to Mt. Olympus to visit his family and the rest of the gods whenever he felt like doing so. Heck, he could have told his parents that he could stay with the rest of the mortals and keep them safe with his godhood just in case anyone would be stupid enough to threaten Greece.

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* Did Hercules really have to give up his godhood to stay with Meg? He could have just asked his parents if he could stay with Meg while retaining his godhood and Herc could just come up to Mt. Olympus to visit his family and the rest of the gods whenever he felt like doing so. Heck, he could have told his parents that he could stay with the rest of the mortals and keep them safe with his godhood just in case anyone would be stupid enough to threaten Greece.Greece.
** Because if he remains a god, Meg will eventually grow old and die, while he won't have aged a day. By the end of the film, immortal life has come to mean nothing to him if she isn't in it. Principle could play into it, as well - if the people were to have one of the immortal gods of Olympus living among them like a mortal, it might take away from the dignified image the gods are trying to impose.
18th Nov '16 4:58:51 PM matt3291992
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* How did Hades know that Meg was dying after the battle with the Titans? The deal only said that Herc's strength would return if she got hurt, not if she outright suffered a fatal blow, so that couldn't have tipped him off. And if he can just sense when someone dies, he shouldn't done the same thing when Hercules was a baby.

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* How did Hades know that Meg was dying after the battle with the Titans? The deal only said that Herc's strength would return if she got hurt, not if she outright suffered a fatal blow, so that couldn't have tipped him off. And if he can just sense when someone dies, he shouldn't done the same thing when Hercules was a baby.baby.

* Did Hercules really have to give up his godhood to stay with Meg? He could have just asked his parents if he could stay with Meg while retaining his godhood and Herc could just come up to Mt. Olympus to visit his family and the rest of the gods whenever he felt like doing so. Heck, he could have told his parents that he could stay with the rest of the mortals and keep them safe with his godhood just in case anyone would be stupid enough to threaten Greece.
3rd Nov '16 2:20:10 PM MrDeath
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** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philoctetes They didn't make him up]]. The mythical Philoctetes is somewhat associated with Hercules, having inherited his bows and arrows.

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** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philoctetes They didn't make him up]]. The mythical Philoctetes is somewhat associated with Hercules, having lit his funeral pyre and inherited his bows and arrows.arrows. Which is to say, he's directly responsible for Hercules' ascent to godhood in the myths.
3rd Nov '16 2:18:56 PM MrDeath
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** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philoctetes They didn't make him up]]. The mythical Philoctetes is somewhat associated with Hercules, having inherited his bows and arrows.
3rd Nov '16 1:06:05 PM ScroogeMacDuck
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* ''Why'' on ''Earth'' did they make up Philoctetes? Actual Greek Mythology ''already has'' a half-human wise elderly hero-training mentor, the centaur Chiron. What was the ''point'' of creating an {{Expy}} instead of using him?
22nd Oct '16 12:11:17 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** Except ''Hades never revealed the deal was rigged.'' Hercules knew that he would age rapidly if he tried entering the river - Hades telling him after he'd gone in was just a teasing reminder. It doesn't give him an excuse not to fulfill his end of it.



** It's also implied that even as a baby, Hercules was ''already'' stronger than Hades, mangling his finger. Hades might not have been able to take adult Hercules in a real fight.

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** It's also implied that even as a baby, Hercules was ''already'' stronger than Hades, mangling his finger. Hades might not have been able to take adult Hercules in a real fight.fight.
** Not really. He grabbed at Hades's finger, which Hades wasn't prepared for. Doesn't automatically mean he was stronger than him.

* How did Hades know that Meg was dying after the battle with the Titans? The deal only said that Herc's strength would return if she got hurt, not if she outright suffered a fatal blow, so that couldn't have tipped him off. And if he can just sense when someone dies, he shouldn't done the same thing when Hercules was a baby.
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