History Headscratchers / Hercules

27th Apr '17 9:24:46 PM DingoWalley1
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* So Zeus could just take Hercules Godliness, at least at the end... Why couldn't he just give Hercules back his Godliness at the beginning? He can take it, but not give it without a ridiculous "You've gotta become a true hero" requirement?

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* So Zeus could just take Hercules Godliness, at least at the end... Why couldn't he just give Hercules back his Godliness at the beginning? He can take it, but not give it without a ridiculous "You've gotta become a true hero" requirement?requirement? And technically, that ''is'' one of Zeus's powers; he did give one of his illegitimate Sons full Godliness.
27th Apr '17 9:24:02 PM DingoWalley1
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* Minor issue here, but when Hercules is born, his hair is blonde, and he has what appears to be a pretty nice tan. As he's losing his glow due to the potion Pain and Panic feed him, his hair turns red and his skin a rather fair complexion. Thus, it's clearly not like his hair and skin changed color like that as he grew older - he got them right away - so why, when he regains his godhood in the end, doesn't he return to his original appearance?

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* Minor issue here, but when Hercules is born, his hair is blonde, and he has what appears to be a pretty nice tan. As he's losing his glow due to the potion Pain and Panic feed him, his hair turns red and his skin a rather fair complexion. Thus, it's clearly not like his hair and skin changed color like that as he grew older - he got them right away - so why, when he regains his godhood in the end, doesn't he return to his original appearance?appearance?

* So Zeus could just take Hercules Godliness, at least at the end... Why couldn't he just give Hercules back his Godliness at the beginning? He can take it, but not give it without a ridiculous "You've gotta become a true hero" requirement?
15th Apr '17 11:44:48 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** The beginning of the movie showed that Zeus could form clouds into all sorts of different things, like columns, his own throne, or Hercules's horse Pegasus. Either being able to handle clouds is something all gods (even ex-gods) have, or Hercules inherited it from his father.




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** Hades at least could provide a more interesting motivation than Ares. Even in the original mythology, Hades was never entirely happy with his lot in life, since the other gods ostracized him for his role in overseeing the Underworld, which was what made him so bitter. Ares was a chaotic war god who pretty much caused conflicts ForTheEvulz. As for Hera, it'd similarly be difficult to provide her with a decent motivation if she was only portrayed as Hercules's evil aunt, and going into any more detail about their relationship might've seemed like a bit much for a children's film. (Not to mention, most of her revenge plots were very petty, and it's not like Herc ever could've faced off against her in a meaningful way.)
15th Apr '17 11:34:33 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** I've always assumed that the potion is actually the water of some magical Underworld river. The film changes it around so that swimming in the Styx will kill you instead of making you immortal - if not that one, there could be some other river that does something similar to gods.

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** I've always assumed that the potion is actually the water of some magical Underworld river. The film changes it around so that swimming in the Styx will kill you instead of making you immortal - if not that one, there could be some other river that does something similar to gods.
gods. There were five of them in Greek mythology, and the Lethe is mentioned in the TV series.
15th Apr '17 11:33:32 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** I've always assumed that the potion is actually the water of some magical Underworld river. The film changes it around so that swimming in the Styx will kill you instead of making you immortal - if not that one, there could be some other river that does something similar to gods.
15th Apr '17 11:29:58 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** Considering the potion causes gods to lose their glow from the bottom up, and the transformation is proportional to how much they've drunk, it'd be difficult for Zeus (or any of the others) not to notice and stop drinking.
24th Mar '17 11:57:41 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** Keep in mind that not all Disney films are made by the same people. There are different directors, script writers, producers, etc. that want to touch on different subjects/stories and wouldn't want to seem to repeat themselves. I figure something like Moana and Lilo and Stitch can get away with it since they only share in common the Polynesian setting, but instead a film with the same setting and mythology/story origin like Hercules could seem repetitive to some audiences. I also think maybe Disney doesn't care much about Hercules (the film) itself and would rather focus on different movies, or maybe they just feel greek mythology has been touched a lot in outside media so they don't need to add their "touch" to it (sorta like how they avoided for years superhero films until the Marvel buyout, or how they don't tend to touch classic novels/plays outside of Hunchback).

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** Keep in mind that not all Disney films are made by the same people. There are different directors, script writers, producers, etc. that want to touch on different subjects/stories and wouldn't want to seem to repeat themselves. I figure something like Moana and Lilo and Stitch can get away with it since they only share in common the Polynesian setting, but instead a film with the same setting and mythology/story origin like Hercules could seem repetitive to some audiences. I also think maybe Disney doesn't care much about Hercules (the film) itself and would rather focus on different movies, or maybe they just feel greek mythology has been touched a lot in outside media so they don't need to add their "touch" to it (sorta like how they avoided for years superhero films until the Marvel buyout, or how they don't tend to touch classic novels/plays outside of Hunchback).Hunchback).

* Minor issue here, but when Hercules is born, his hair is blonde, and he has what appears to be a pretty nice tan. As he's losing his glow due to the potion Pain and Panic feed him, his hair turns red and his skin a rather fair complexion. Thus, it's clearly not like his hair and skin changed color like that as he grew older - he got them right away - so why, when he regains his godhood in the end, doesn't he return to his original appearance?
24th Mar '17 11:52:33 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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*** He wouldn't need to launch himself at high velocity - he's a demigod who can't control his strength.
24th Mar '17 11:49:00 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** True, but in Greek mythology, their hatred of the Underworld seemed to extend to Hades himself, hence, he was generally ostracized. In the film, the other gods seem happy to have him on Olympus and are actually ''upset'' that he "prefers" to spend so much time in the Underworld. So even if his home is there, it stands to reason that he could at least spend most of his time on Olympus, if he wanted.
6th Mar '17 5:46:38 AM tafelshrew
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** In Greek mythology, the Olympian gods hate the Underworld - it's dark, it's underground, and it's full of dead people. Maybe Disney!Hades just hates having to work and live there at all.
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