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*** Dumbledore was most likely being facetious. The Fantastic Beasts films show he definitely was aware of the Room by at least 1927, since it's where the Mirror of Erised was, and he used it in 1935 to have a portkey to Bhutan.
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*** Dumbledore had no idea there was a Room of Requirement at Hogwarts. In GoF, he mentioned passing by the room when he had to use the loo and found a room full of toilets, but after searching the castle could never find that room again.

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** 1) It's Smeltings, not Stonewall. (and aside: Smeltings are the left over meat juices caramalised at the bottom of the pan after cooking a
roast) 2) Public school in the UK doesn't mean the same as in younger countries. 3) Most UK achools have a school uniform. None include knickerbockers.

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** 1) It's Smeltings, not Stonewall. (and aside: Smeltings are the left over meat juices caramalised at the bottom of the pan after cooking a
cooking roast) 2) Public school in the UK doesn't mean the same as in younger countries. 3) Most UK achools have a school uniform. None include knickerbockers.
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** The "discreet" part ''is'' the IdiotBall here. Every minute Quirrellmort spends in Hogwarts is another minute he risks Dumbledore discovering that Quirrell is possessed, at which point Voldemort is stuck in a vastly weakened form and facing off against his strongest opponent. In the heart of that opponent's stronghold. Tom should have not wasted a ''second'' dithering around inside Hogwarts that he didn't absolutely need to, let alone an entire bloody year. And its an IdiotPlot both that he wasted that much time, and that Dumbledore was apparently oblivious the entire year long.

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** The "discreet" part ''is'' the IdiotBall here. Every minute Quirrellmort spends in Hogwarts is another minute he risks Dumbledore discovering that Quirrell is possessed, at which point Voldemort is stuck in a vastly weakened form and facing off against his strongest opponent. In the heart of that opponent's stronghold. Tom should have not wasted a ''second'' dithering around inside Hogwarts that he didn't absolutely need to, let alone an entire bloody year. And its an IdiotPlot it's a plot both that he wasted that much time, and that Dumbledore was apparently oblivious the entire year long.
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** Something that just occured to me as a possible explanation as to why it took Dumbledore so long to get to the Ministry and back: In Order of the Phoenix, during Hagrid's Care of Magical Creatures lesson on Thestrals (before Umbridge disrupts it), he mentions that Dumbledore will often fly on a Thestral when he doesn't feel like Apparating. It's possible this was one of those times.
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** The other question is who put the stone in Gringotts? When Hagrid goes there, he states Dumbledore arranged for him to obtain the stone, not Flamel. It could be that Flamel gave Dumbledore the stone, Dumbledore put it at Gringotts until he had time to think of a way to protect it but either heard of a plan to try to steal it from Gringotts or finally got the Mirror and thus could hide the stone.
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** The thing is that Dumbledore seemed to also know that Voldemort wasn't completely dead. As shown in the seventh book in Snape's memories, Dumbledore tells Snape that Voldy will return and that was only days or weeks after Lily and James' death. It is possible that Dumbledore mentioned this to at least McGonagall and Hagrid as an explanation of why Harry was living at the Dursleys and poeeibly why the house was given such protection.

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** The thing is that Dumbledore seemed to also know that Voldemort wasn't completely dead. As shown in the seventh book in Snape's memories, Dumbledore tells Snape that Voldy will return and that was only days or weeks after Lily and James' death. It is possible that Dumbledore mentioned this to at least McGonagall [=McGonagall=] and Hagrid as an explanation of why Harry was living at the Dursleys and poeeibly why the house was given such protection.
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** Olli did it for appearence sake, obviously. Harry would likely discuss his wand purchase with others (or at least learn about the process), and if every wizard had to go through numerous wands to "be chosen" but him, it would've looked suspicious. Next, for all we know, all the other wands could've been fake (notice how none of them produces ''any'' effect and Oliwander snatches them from Harry before he can do as much as a flick) and who says you cannot attune the wand to a wizard beforehand? Hell, DD could've had the wand made even before leaving Harry with Dursleys (or even before he was born, after he'd heard the prophecy), so they had a chance to test it on him. Of course, if somebody prefers to believe in coincedences too contrived even for the StarWars prequels, there's little that could be done with it.

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** Olli did it for appearence sake, obviously. Harry would likely discuss his wand purchase with others (or at least learn about the process), and if every wizard had to go through numerous wands to "be chosen" but him, it would've looked suspicious. Next, for all we know, all the other wands could've been fake (notice how none of them produces ''any'' effect and Oliwander snatches them from Harry before he can do as much as a flick) and who says you cannot attune the wand to a wizard beforehand? Hell, DD could've had the wand made even before leaving Harry with Dursleys (or even before he was born, after he'd heard the prophecy), so they had a chance to test it on him. Of course, if somebody prefers to believe in coincedences too contrived even for the StarWars prequels, there's little that could be done with it.
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** At least Barty Crouch Jr had the excuse of having to maintain a very specific façade. Professor Moody acting like Umbrage would have raised a parade of red flags. No idea about the video game though.
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** Well, Halloween isn't really celebrated as much in the UK. At least, they don't dress up and make a big deal like Americans do.

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** Well, Halloween isn't really celebrated as much in the UK. At least, they don't dress up and make a big deal like Americans do.
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** Look up Krummlauf in TheOtherWiki

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**Dumbledore assigned Mrs Figg to keep an eye on Harry in his childhood, so she was definitely in contact with him and he in turn would have known what Harry's childhood was like. As for how...owls? We know Muggles can use owls if they know how (Hermione's parents and even the Dursleys send messages to Hermione and Harry by owl) so there's no reason why Mrs Figg couldn't have sent letters by owl to Dumbledore.
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Despite Quirrell apparently only teaching theory based spells, in the video games, he teaches Harry useful spells that were used against him in the climax. Why would he even teach them to defend themselves at all? If he was REALLY teaching them theory, he’d have done what Umbridge did 4 years later. Same goes for Barty Crouch Jr in Goblet of Fire.
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*** I asked that question on this website, which you can see for yourself by clicking this link: https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/247702/why-did-the-tv-weatherman-in-philosopher-s-stone-say-that-bonfire-night-was-not?noredirect=1#comment680952_247702, but basically, in real life, 1st November was on a SUNday, so maybe the news guy was a wizard who got dates mixed up or maybe “Sundays turned into Tuesdays” should’ve been added to the list of thing Vernon was freaking out about.

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*** I asked that question on this website, which you can see for yourself by clicking this link: https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/247702/why-did-the-tv-weatherman-in-philosopher-s-stone-say-that-bonfire-night-was-not?noredirect=1#comment680952_247702, but basically, in real life, 1st November was on a SUNday, [=SUNday=], so maybe the news guy was a wizard who got dates mixed up or maybe “Sundays turned into Tuesdays” should’ve been added to the list of thing Vernon was freaking out about.
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** ''Prisoner of Azkaban'', the book that is, confirms that rats are not very popular among wizardkind as pets, when compared to owls or cats. Toads are most likely going that way as well, as Hagrid mentions them being old-fashioned, but are apparently still more popular than rats. So it may be a case of the school list gives owls, cats, and toads as acceptable pets for students because they were, at the time, the three most popular, but Hogwarts will allow other pets, such as rats, and later Pygmy Puffs as shown in ''Half-Blood Prince'', if a student wants to, as long as they're not large animals (no student tries to bring a dog, after all).
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** It's clear from Hagrid's botched attempt at a birthday cake that spelling is an issue for him. Maybe he suffers from a genuine condition like Dyslexia, or his giant half just makes him a bit stupid, or maybe he's just not that good at it generally. Point being, Hagrid can't spell too well, that's all there is to it. He struggled to spell ''"Happy"'' and put it down as ''"Happee"'', it's ''clearly'' not his strong point.


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* A VERY minor one, but this has confused me ever since I saw the first movie as a kid. It's clarified that Hogwarts students can bring, if they want to, 'an owl, a cat, or a toad' with them during their time at school. So okay, Harry gets Hedwig, Hermione gets Crookshanks in the third book, and Neville has Trevor... but why is Ron allowed in with Scabbers, a mangy-looking rat (which is actually a human in rat form)? If there's no real rule about it, then why stipulate 'owl, cat or toad' at all? If it IS a rule, then why is Ron allowed to keep his rat for three full years of schooling? Everyone clearly knows Ron has a rat, it's one of his trademarks, that he's too poor to afford a 'real' pet like the other students, so he has his brother's hand-me-down rat, but why is he allowed to keep it at all?
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**** The last part was exactly my take on the matter. When you think about what the mirror actually ''did'' (prevent people from getting the stone if they wanted it), it makes perfect sense. Dumbledore knew the report was fake and knew this was when Quirrell / Voldemort would make their move for the stone, but Dumbledore knew the final 'trial' was impossible for him to pass, no matter what tricks he managed to pull. He could get past Fluffy, the Devil's Snare, the chess game, etc... but he couldn't ever get past the mirror. As such he'd still be there when Dumbledore got back in the morning. If Dumbledore ignored the letter and stayed at the school, Quirrell wouldn't make his move yet, because it wouldn't be safe.
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** For the same reason that VideoGame/{{Mega Man|Classic}} [[BagOfSpilling doesn't keep]] [[PowerCopying his weapons]] [[BagOfSpilling between games]]. It's not allowed by the rules. Would you want to cheat and risk setting off whatever magical rules enforcement was in place?

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** For the same reason that VideoGame/{{Mega Man|Classic}} [[BagOfSpilling doesn't keep]] doesn't]] keep [[PowerCopying his weapons]] his]] weapons [[BagOfSpilling between games]]. It's not allowed by the rules. Would you want to cheat and risk setting off whatever magical rules enforcement was in place?



--> "D'you think he meant you to do it?" said Ron. "Sending you your father's cloak and everything?"
--> "Well," Hermione exploded, "if he did — I mean to say that's terrible — you could have been killed."
--> "No, it isn't," said Harry thoughtfully. "He's a funny man, Dumbledore. I think he sort of wanted to give me a chance."

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--> "D'you --->"D'you think he meant you to do it?" said Ron. "Sending you your father's cloak and everything?"
--> "Well," --->"Well," Hermione exploded, "if he did — I mean to say that's terrible — you could have been killed."
--> "No, --->"No, it isn't," said Harry thoughtfully. "He's a funny man, Dumbledore. I think he sort of wanted to give me a chance."



** Magic, as it is shown in these books, is completely capable of outpacing muggle technology. It already shows signs of steady improvement. New spells, new potions and new tools being invented and often putting old ones to shame. Stagnation can clearly be overcome if they care enough. Wizards have shown they can knockout all electronic devices over wide areas indefinitely, which would really put a damper on most advantages modern organizations of the 20th century had and would really be even worse as "we" become more dependent on such in the 21st. They can solve virtually all chemical and biological based maladies while unleashing the likes of which muggles have no means of dealing with, either by their magical nature or by simple manner of not knowing they exist to begin with. If they can take down digital devices, communication networks and satellite imagery, then irrigation, plumbing, food production, they should be as easy to shutdown or turn against muggles. They have at least three different types of potentially deadly [[AFateWorseThanDeath or close enough]] {{invisible monsters}}, two of which seem only repelled by specific magic. The most destructive muggle weapons also happen to suck for the muggles themselves in terms of actually taking territory and or avoiding friendly fire while the necessary defenses and decontamination shouldn't be that hard to transfigure or charm with sufficient study of them. So here's the proposal; the general community doesn't, or at least at some point in time no longer wanted to worry about whether or not their magical advancements continued to outpace muggles. It was a fight they were tired of and no longer believed in. Racism, for example, used to be much more widely acceptable than it is now. It's only after people saw what they lost from all those groups of natives they made extinct, how slavery was undermining national economies for all but a few lucky people, by seeing just how far state sponsored genocide went to be weed out people with undesirable traits they couldn't help that really weren't very significant to begin with, that racism began to become socially unacceptable in the industrial age. Perhaps, for some reason or another, hysteria regarding an explosion in muggle birth rates compared to their own, the magical community became xenophobic. Fear lead to desperate, often illogical actions and those created a community convinced of it's superiority as the perpetrators largely got away with them. Increasingly heinous crimes against muggles were committed with increasing regularity in more and more places until a series of events [[MoralEventHorizon were so horrible]] magical society was shamed into eventually doing a 180. Muggle domination/extermination became less and less appealing to the point lawmakers and elected officials were doing everything in their power to prevent the catastrophes that line of thinking lead to from ever happening again. Population and or birthrate seem like the most likely causes. All the power in the world really won't matter if you're out bred ''unless'' you really concentrate your efforts on annihilating, enslaving or separating yourself from the "opposition". Being "replaced" in the world by the "inferior" is a [[PrimalFear common]] human [[AdultFear fear]]. As separation was deemed better than annihilation or subjugation it lead to a masquerade. Separation still has it's own problems, and it should be clear that though magic is literally "in the blood", it is ''not'' inherited by blood. It is not strictly biological, as magical traits can skip more generations than biological ones before resurfacing(unless some really coincidental mutations are going on) and muggles with no magical ancestry can still produce children gifted with magic; the assertion that magic was strictly biological was [[ObviouslyEvil treated]] as [[InsaneTrollLogic pseudoscience]] promoted by a Nazi Klansman [[CommieNazis amalgamation]] in the books themselves. Magical people are never likely to disappear completely, but then racism still exists, even if it isn't popular anymore. White people, black people, whatever people, they're never likely to truly disappear by the very way human genetics work, but it hasn't stopped people from trying and unfortunately, social structures, knowledge and philosophies ''can'' be lost forever. Wizards put a lot of stock in ancient tradition, perhaps more than in advancement, which would explain why simply keeping up with the muggles apparently isn't an option, and seem convinced muggle numbers are a threat to its preservation, the acceptance of muggle born magic users into their private club being a fairly recent development met with much backlash. Separation is the best, or at least most "humane" defense of their ancient ways they've come up with so far.

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** Magic, as it is shown in these books, is completely capable of outpacing muggle technology. It already shows signs of steady improvement. New spells, new potions and new tools being invented and often putting old ones to shame. Stagnation can clearly be overcome if they care enough. Wizards have shown they can knockout all electronic devices over wide areas indefinitely, which would really put a damper on most advantages modern organizations of the 20th century had and would really be even worse as "we" become more dependent on such in the 21st. They can solve virtually all chemical and biological based maladies while unleashing the likes of which muggles have no means of dealing with, either by their magical nature or by simple manner of not knowing they exist to begin with. If they can take down digital devices, communication networks and satellite imagery, then irrigation, plumbing, food production, they should be as easy to shutdown or turn against muggles. They have at least three different types of potentially deadly [[AFateWorseThanDeath or close enough]] {{invisible monsters}}, two of which seem only repelled by specific magic. The most destructive muggle weapons also happen to suck for the muggles themselves in terms of actually taking territory and or avoiding friendly fire while the necessary defenses and decontamination shouldn't be that hard to transfigure or charm with sufficient study of them. So here's the proposal; the general community doesn't, or at least at some point in time no longer wanted to worry about whether or not their magical advancements continued to outpace muggles. It was a fight they were tired of and no longer believed in. Racism, for example, used to be much more widely acceptable than it is now. It's only after people saw what they lost from all those groups of natives they made extinct, how slavery was undermining national economies for all but a few lucky people, by seeing just how far state sponsored genocide went to be weed out people with undesirable traits they couldn't help that really weren't very significant to begin with, that racism began to become socially unacceptable in the industrial age. Perhaps, for some reason or another, hysteria regarding an explosion in muggle birth rates compared to their own, the magical community became xenophobic. Fear lead to desperate, often illogical actions and those created a community convinced of it's superiority as the perpetrators largely got away with them. Increasingly heinous crimes against muggles were committed with increasing regularity in more and more places until a series of events [[MoralEventHorizon were so horrible]] magical society was shamed into eventually doing a 180. Muggle domination/extermination became less and less appealing to the point lawmakers and elected officials were doing everything in their power to prevent the catastrophes that line of thinking lead to from ever happening again. Population and or birthrate seem like the most likely causes. All the power in the world really won't matter if you're out bred ''unless'' you really concentrate your efforts on annihilating, enslaving or separating yourself from the "opposition". Being "replaced" in the world by the "inferior" is a [[PrimalFear common]] human [[AdultFear fear]].fear. As separation was deemed better than annihilation or subjugation it lead to a masquerade. Separation still has it's own problems, and it should be clear that though magic is literally "in the blood", it is ''not'' inherited by blood. It is not strictly biological, as magical traits can skip more generations than biological ones before resurfacing(unless some really coincidental mutations are going on) and muggles with no magical ancestry can still produce children gifted with magic; the assertion that magic was strictly biological was [[ObviouslyEvil treated]] as [[InsaneTrollLogic pseudoscience]] promoted by a Nazi Klansman [[CommieNazis amalgamation]] in the books themselves. Magical people are never likely to disappear completely, but then racism still exists, even if it isn't popular anymore. White people, black people, whatever people, they're never likely to truly disappear by the very way human genetics work, but it hasn't stopped people from trying and unfortunately, social structures, knowledge and philosophies ''can'' be lost forever. Wizards put a lot of stock in ancient tradition, perhaps more than in advancement, which would explain why simply keeping up with the muggles apparently isn't an option, and seem convinced muggle numbers are a threat to its preservation, the acceptance of muggle born magic users into their private club being a fairly recent development met with much backlash. Separation is the best, or at least most "humane" defense of their ancient ways they've come up with so far.
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** The thing is that Dumbledore seemed to also know that Voldemort wasn't completely dead. As shown in the seventh book in Snape's memories, Dumbledore tells Snape that Voldy will return and that was only days or weeks after Lily and James' death. It is possible that Dumbledore mentioned this to at least McGonagall and Hagrid as an explanation of why Harry was living at the Dursleys and poeeibly why the house was given such protection.
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*** 1) Actually, it is Stonewall, not Smeltings. Petunia was talking about dying clothes for Harry's uniform and Harry was going to go to Stonewall school.
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*** Which is more "the author got it wrong" than historically accurate though.
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* A flashback in ''Deathly Hallows'' shows kids out and about celebrating Halloween the night Harry's parents were killed, and one even compliments Voldemort on his "costume", so clearly some people were celebrating it.

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* A flashback in ''Deathly Hallows'' shows kids out and about celebrating Halloween the night Harry's parents were killed, and one even compliments Voldemort on his "costume", so clearly some people were celebrating it.
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** For that metter, how was Vernon able to hold onto the gun as Hagrid bent the barrel? There is no way a normal man would be able to hold onto one end of a steel pipe like a shotgun barrel while it is bent like that.
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** Was it Hagrid who said Gringotts was one of the safest places tio hide something? Maybe their defences and precautions are just better than anywhere else?

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** I think it was just Hagrid being dramatic. It's actually pretty common for people to refer to those who have done monstrous acts as 'inhuman' or 'inhumane'. That, or Hagrid was referring to how far gone in the Dark Arts Voldemort was (which is common knowledge, unlike his Horcruxes) that any part of him that was human became so corrupted he could hardly be recognised as human.

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** Was it Hagrid who said Gringotts was one of the safest places to hide something? Maybe their defences and precautions are just better than anywhere else?

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* Hagrid tells Harry that "“Don't know if he had enough human left in him". Does this mean that Hagrid knows who Voldemort is and knows about his Horcruxes? And if so, how the hell did he keep his mouth shut all this time when he can't keep quiet about anything else (and nearly gets kids killed)?
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** Besides, it's not uncommon for people to use banks in foreign countries for specialist reasons - the Caymans for avoiding tax, and Switzerland for their security and "don't ask, don't tell" policy. In fact, Gringotts is probably the wizarding equivalent to a Swiss bank; Rowling has noted that Swiss banks were the inspiration.
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** I think Flamel wanted to die. He was six hundred and sixty five years old!

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** I think Flamel wanted to die. He was six hundred and sixty five years old!old! One more year would make him 666.
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** I don't understand any part of your question - it was plain and obvious self-defence. I don't remember the book much, so I am answering the situation movie wise. Quirrel was STRANGLING him with his hands and Harry touched them when he struggled with him. As for then why Harry went to touch his face - well, it was kill or be killed. Quirrel might have stepped back and used his wand to kill Harry off in any possible way, that would be not countered by Harry's protection. If someone threatened you or your family with a gun, and you had also a gun and shot him first, would you be charged with a murder? Or released free for just defending your life? If a policeman shot a hostage taker, would he be charged with a murder?
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*** It's been given as the reason multiple times by JKR, and ViewersAreMorons is a TVT trope heading.


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** Look up Krummlauf in TheOtherWiki

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