History Headscratchers / HarryPotterAndThePhilosophersStone

24th Apr '17 5:49:40 AM Sharlee
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** But Dumbledore could've wanted to find the Stone so that ''he'' could mix up some Elixir for his friends, the Flamels. He'd worked closely with Nicholas on alchemical research, after all; presumably he knows the recipe, even if he doesn't care to use it for himself. And Harry wanting to find the Stone solely to keep it out of Voldemort's hands still worked, so presumably wanting to find it for non-selfish reasons is sufficient.
23rd Apr '17 3:33:33 PM Chillpenguin411
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* Just a what if, but, Suppose the Hogwarts express had a floo network fireplace in one of the carriages?
23rd Apr '17 3:19:52 PM Chillpenguin411
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** Letting people live for "let's say 100 years" and then kill them - just to avoid the hardships of getting older, sounds like a great idea. (Example quote by a 11 year old: 'where is papa?') I can't see things going wrong with that at all. And I'm sure since everyone is completely corruption free, people in higher positions wouldn't just abuse their position to live longer at all, right? Immortality would just turn into another addiction. Why should people, who can't accept their natural lifespan to begin with, voluntarily allow themselves to be killed off after a (contractually?) defined [100|200|...] year life span? I already get nervous when I have a dentist appointment a few weeks in the future - I can't imagine how it must be to have an appointment for your own death in your calendar. The alternative is overpopulation, territorial wars, etc. Thanks for sparing others that trouble, Nic![[/folder]]

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** Letting people live for "let's say 100 years" and then kill them - just to avoid the hardships of getting older, sounds like a great idea. (Example quote by a 11 year old: 'where is papa?') I can't see things going wrong with that at all. And I'm sure since everyone is completely corruption free, people in higher positions wouldn't just abuse their position to live longer at all, right? Immortality would just turn into another addiction. Why should people, who can't accept their natural lifespan to begin with, voluntarily allow themselves to be killed off after a (contractually?) defined [100|200|...] year life span? I already get nervous when I have a dentist appointment a few weeks in the future - I can't imagine how it must be to have an appointment for your own death in your calendar. The alternative is overpopulation, territorial wars, etc. Thanks for sparing others that trouble, Nic![[/folder]]
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**Having one person immortal is not the same as the immortality as the entire human race. If anyone has a right to use the stone it would be Flamel, its creator. Adding on to the points made previously, At the end of the TPS where Flamel dies, doesn't DD say that he is accepting of death? Its possible that Flamel has been planning to stop using the stone for a while, and the impending re-emergence of Voldemort just gives him that final push. As such he is perfectly fine with dying, perhaps seeing it as "the next great adventure". In regards to the philosophers stone being released to the public- not only are there the problems detailed above, but it is also stated that the Elixir can be corrupted (one of the reasons Voldemort doesn't want to be dependant on it). Now imagine you're one of these people who has access to immortality through this, you are roughly 200 years old living a happy life with your also 200 year old partner and/or roughly 100 year old children/grandchildren/etc. You take your medication (elixir) when suddenly you feel...off. The world becomes blurry, you feel the ravages of age for the first time, all at once. Not only would that likely kill you outright, but whatever had corrupted the elixir might have side-effects. So unless you have the foresight and means to stock up on elixir beforehand, then you are forced to watch as your entire family drops like flies, one after the other. As you are, or rather were, all immortal, death has never crossed your mind. Now that you're suddenly mortal again imagine the pain of losing a loved one then multiply that to your entire family (possibly excluding recent generations) getting wiped out in short order. And since you are immortal, death would be, to put it lightly, Utterly Fucking Terrifying, since you would basically have a lighter version of Voldemort's mindset. Granted this is worst case but it would just be the sudden loss of everything you hold dear. At least with death by old age you see it coming and prepare yourself for it, sudden loss of immortality on top of the cumulative effects of age would be swift and unmerciful in comparison. As for the eternal youth and curing cancer points;- we really do not know how the stone works, It could be that Flamel is horribly decrepit, having to constantly swat away flies or be hooked up to his elixir life-support style, so while you would live forever, that wouldn't account for your quality of life. Curing cancer- if the wizarding world hasn't already come up with some cure for it (Which is never brought up in universe for obvious reasons) then we do not know if it would keep you alive through cancer (as detailed above) or actually fix it, so we cannot assume that it would do either.
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23rd Apr '17 1:58:42 PM Chillpenguin411
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*** Small note: Have we ever seen veritaserum used on an someone under the Imperius curse? It is possible that they would have simply reported their actions while under the imperius curse, not that they were under the imperius curse, thus rendering the veritaserum pointless? Although the fact that legilimens exist could tip the scales...
5th Apr '17 12:41:02 PM Gess
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** Which shouldn't, by all means, be a problem thanks to the concealment charms that prevent people on the ground from seing them.
2nd Apr '17 6:08:43 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** According to Pottermore, Dumbledore had kept the mirror inside the Room of Requirement until he was ready to hide the stone inside it - ergo, once the rest of the protections put forth by the other professors were in place. My guess is that he kept the stone with him until then, and had the mirror temporarily moved into the empty classroom for Harry to find after Christmas, before moving it again to the end of the gauntlet below the third-floor corridor.
28th Mar '17 6:15:56 PM inspibrain101
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** It seems a bit unlikely, but it would certainly be interesting if it was! Let's analyze this hypothesis: first of all, would Harry have been able to get into the room of requirement? I'm not sure if it's canon or fanon, but there are a lot of theories that the room of requirement can change its location, so it's plausible on that end. Second: how would Harry have been able to get into the room of requirement ''with the mirror inside?'' Because Dumbledore was later revealed to have been in the mirror room when Harry found it, if we are to suppose that this was actually the room of requirement, then the room had been in use by Dumbledore to hide the mirror, and Harry just entered while it was still in use. This would imply that Dumbledore was fully aware of the Room of Requirement for the entire series- which, technically, was never confirmed, only hinted at by Dumbledore's mention of "finding a bathroom when he needed it". Could this have been the Room of Requirement? Yes, it's physically possible. Does it require a bit of stretching of logic? Yes. Did J.K. Rowling intend for that to happen? Probably not. Fun new fanon, kudos to you!
28th Mar '17 12:27:59 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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* According to Pottermore, when the Mirror of Erised was brought to Hogwarts, Dumbledore kept it hidden in the Room of Requirement until he was ready to use it to hide the Sorcerer's Stone. Does this mean that the dusty, unused classroom Harry found the mirror in was actually the Room of Requirement discovered early, or did Dumbledore move the mirror to the classroom first, in order to show Harry its nature and how it worked, before placing the stone inside?
25th Mar '17 6:38:21 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** I think that Dumbledore may've just expected that Tom (the Leaky Cauldron's Tom) would tell Tom [Riddle] how to get onto the platform, and like you've suggested, Hagrid was in a hurry and just forgot to explain it to Harry. Either that or A.) they're so used to just going through the barrier that it might not occur to explain it to those who don't know, or B.) as orphans, Harry and Tom were special cases. Families of Muggle-borns are probably told about the gateway as part of their introduction into the Wizarding world, and anyone who has at least one magical relative wouldn't need to be told about it by anyone else.
25th Mar '17 6:04:44 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** As to how he flew, that's an entirely different headscratcher (which I believe has already been discussed above). As for why not fly back the same way, probably so he doesn't give Harry the wrong idea about how magic works. It's supposed to be discreet. Most wizards travelling in a predominantly Muggle area don't whip out a broomstick, flying motorcycle, or invisible Gothic horse-creature so they can fly everywhere they go, especially when there's a much more inconspicuous and mundane way of doing it right nearby.
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