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** After you save Jowd, he gains the ability to sense you. Maybe Beauty was saved by [[spoiler:Yomiel.]]
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** [[spoiler: Also since we don't see it, his path could have been both much more convoluted and also involve many time jumps and manipulations of his own to engineer an opportunity.]]
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* Two questions regarding the ending: [[spoiler:Who gives kitten Sissel the red neckerchief in the ending timeline (I'm assuming Yomiel gave it to Sissel in the game's timeline), and why do the Noisy and Curry-Loving Jailbirds still have their striped "jailbird" clothing if Yomiel never possessed them and committed their crimes?]]

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* Two questions regarding the ending: [[spoiler:Who gives kitten Sissel the red neckerchief in the ending timeline (I'm assuming Yomiel gave it to Sissel in the game's timeline), and why do the Noisy and Curry-Loving Jailbirds still have their striped "jailbird" clothing if Yomiel never possessed them and committed their crimes?]]crimes?]]
* Couldn't [[spoiler:Ray have posessed Lynne's corpse in the first timeline to go back before her death and convince Sissel to help, rather than wait ten years?]]
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** Though the game makes no hints or mentions to it, this troper believes the rule was put in place to prevent [[spoiler:Sissel from bringing Alma (Jowd's wife) back to life. When Sissel saves Lynne for the second or third time, she asks why she doesn't have the same powers as him, because according to her, they would help. Considering she is looking into a murder case, she may have been considering trying to save Alma with ghost tricks. Although even if they could, Yomiel was there, and he was determined to kill her.]]

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** Though the game makes no hints or mentions to it, this troper believes the rule was put in place to prevent [[spoiler:Sissel from bringing Alma (Jowd's wife) back to life. When Sissel saves Lynne for early in the second or third time, game, she asks why she doesn't have the same powers as him, because according to her, they would help. Considering she is looking into a murder case, she may have been considering trying to save Alma with ghost tricks. Although even if they could, Yomiel was there, and he was determined to kill her.]]
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** Though the game makes no hints or mentions to it, this troper believes the rule was put in place to prevent [[spoiler:Sissel from bringing Alma (Jowd's wife) back to life. When Sissel saves Lynne for the second or third time, she asks why she doesn't have the same powers as him, because according to her, they would help. Considering she is looking into a murder case, she may have been considering trying to save Alma with ghost tricks. Although even if they could, Yomiel was there, and he was determined to kill her.]]
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** It might be in case Sissel got the sporadic idea to try and save a bunch of random dead people. Or better yet, it was likely a subtle hood-wink from the writers to avoid would've have otherwise been a hanging question of "if he can go back to save people's lives, wouldn't that mean he can save literally every single person who's ever been killed by something other then natural causes?". Limiting it to people who've been dead for only 24 hours limits the unfortunate implications that he could end up accidentally saving...say, [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct Hitler]]. Just to use an example - My point is that it limits the implications for what Sissel could actually use his powers for (whether it be for good or for evil). Especially since the end of the game reveals [[spoiler:He will actually exist forever. If they didn't have Ray drop that line in it'd have basically meant Sissel was a horrific abomination who had unlimited god like powers.]]

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** It might be in case Sissel got the sporadic idea to try and save a bunch of random dead people. Or better yet, it was likely a subtle hood-wink from the writers to avoid would've have otherwise been a hanging question of "if he can go back to save people's lives, wouldn't that mean he can save literally every single person who's ever been killed by something other then natural causes?". Limiting it to people who've been dead for only 24 hours limits the unfortunate implications that he could end up accidentally saving...say, [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct Hitler]]. Just to use an example - My point is that it limits the implications for what Sissel could actually use his powers for (whether it be for good or for evil). Especially since the end of the game reveals [[spoiler:He will actually exist forever. If they didn't have Ray drop that line in it'd have basically meant Sissel was a horrific abomination who had unlimited god like powers.]]]]
* Two questions regarding the ending: [[spoiler:Who gives kitten Sissel the red neckerchief in the ending timeline (I'm assuming Yomiel gave it to Sissel in the game's timeline), and why do the Noisy and Curry-Loving Jailbirds still have their striped "jailbird" clothing if Yomiel never possessed them and committed their crimes?]]
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***Of course [[spoiler:he died]]. [[spoiler:We can clearly see Sissel's soul]] just before the credits roll. You can't [[spoiler:show a soul if you're not dead, even if you're in the alive-dead state that Yomiel was in, which I consider to be more dead than alive.]]
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*** The thing about the corpses in this game is that if the corpse is on a surface that had moved between the instant of death and the 4 minutes before moment, the corpse will transport to where it would have been located on that surface 4 minutes before death. [[spoiler:In the case of Rindge, his corpse is on the van back at the park. This isn't the only time this happens in the game. When possessing Jowd in the submarine's control room, Sissel is sent back to Jowd's corpse on the floor in a moving room. If this rule didn't apply, Sissel would end up at the Chicken Kitchen 4 minutes before Rindge's death, and in the middle of the ocean in Jowd's case.]]
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* Minor point: Near the start of the game, Ray mentions that Sissel's power to rewind time will only work on corpses that have not been dead for longer than 24 hours. Why did he point that out? Sissel never encounters any bodies during the game that have been dead for more than a few hours. [[spoiler: Yes, I know that Yomiel has been technically dead for 10 years, but as the Temsik fragment within him kept him trapped in the instant where the fragment pierced his heart, he is not "truly" dead.]]

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* Minor point: Near the start of the game, Ray mentions that Sissel's power to rewind time will only work on corpses that have not been dead for longer than 24 hours. Why did he point that out? Sissel never encounters any bodies during the game that have been dead for more than a few hours. [[spoiler: Yes, I know that Yomiel has been technically dead for 10 years, but as the Temsik fragment within him kept him trapped in the instant where the fragment pierced his heart, he is not "truly" dead.]]
** It might be in case Sissel got the sporadic idea to try and save a bunch of random dead people. Or better yet, it was likely a subtle hood-wink from the writers to avoid would've have otherwise been a hanging question of "if he can go back to save people's lives, wouldn't that mean he can save literally every single person who's ever been killed by something other then natural causes?". Limiting it to people who've been dead for only 24 hours limits the unfortunate implications that he could end up accidentally saving...say, [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct Hitler]]. Just to use an example - My point is that it limits the implications for what Sissel could actually use his powers for (whether it be for good or for evil). Especially since the end of the game reveals [[spoiler:He will actually exist forever. If they didn't have Ray drop that line in it'd have basically meant Sissel was a horrific abomination who had unlimited god like powers.
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** We can't see the words anyway so might as well have Sissel get to it and examine it for us. [[spoiler: Besides, he can't read due to being a cat anyway so might as well just have him hop to it]].

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** We can't see the words anyway so might as well have Sissel get to it and examine it for us. [[spoiler: Besides, he can't read due to being a cat anyway so might as well just have him hop to it]].it]].
* Minor point: Near the start of the game, Ray mentions that Sissel's power to rewind time will only work on corpses that have not been dead for longer than 24 hours. Why did he point that out? Sissel never encounters any bodies during the game that have been dead for more than a few hours. [[spoiler: Yes, I know that Yomiel has been technically dead for 10 years, but as the Temsik fragment within him kept him trapped in the instant where the fragment pierced his heart, he is not "truly" dead.]]
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** The game did mention about that. At the scene [[where Jeego tries to kill Lynne, if you release the giant box that could kill Jeego without Jeego beneath it]], then this is discussed between Lynne and Sissel. It seems Sissel just tries not to think about that.

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** The game did mention about that. At the scene [[where [[spoiler: where Jeego tries to kill Lynne, if you release the giant box that could kill Jeego without Jeego beneath it]], then this is discussed between Lynne and Sissel. It seems Sissel just tries not to think about that.
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** The game did mention about that. At the scene [[where Jeego tries to kill Lynne, if you release the giant box that could kill Jeego without Jeego beneath it]], then this is discussed between Lynne and Sissel. It seems Sissel just tries not to think about that.
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*** [[http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/ghosttrick/images/6/63/Metal_Yomiel.gif/revision/latest?cb=20120126155046 The shades]] kind of look like a broken piece of metal.

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** It could also cause [[spoiler:Lynne to be a part of this final Aversion and she may live the rest of her life with memories of the previous timeline.]]



** It would probably depend on [[spoiler: how he was hit, how his legs were broken, and how quickly he got medical treatment for it all. And given that Jowd knows that Yomiel got so hurt saving Lynn, he might have seen to it that Yomiel got really good care for his injuries.]]

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** It would probably depend on [[spoiler: how he was hit, how his legs were broken, and how quickly he got medical treatment for it all. And given that Jowd knows that Yomiel got so hurt saving Lynn, Lynne, he might have seen to it that Yomiel got really good care for his injuries.]]
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** Seeing a RubeGoldbergDevice go off attracts the eye, watching to see what happens next. Also, [[spoiler:Lynne wasn't supposed be be in the basement, and had no idea what lay on the other side of the door when she entered.]]
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** [[spoiler: Yomiel did say that if his fate was to die, so be it. So much better than living forever was his thinking. That and the goal was to prevent the meteorite from hitting him. And if Yomiel did possess himself, lets Lynne go and dropped the gun and ran away instead to avoid the meteorite fragment, he might get the death penalty instead of 10 years. Or better yet, the writers chose to make Yomiel sympathetic]].
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***** The best explanation would be this. [[spoiler: Lynne's body for the first time was at the bottom because that's where her corpse lies at the longest. For Jowd, it's because his corpse was carried away and placed on the table. For the detective in the van, his corpse was in the van so technically, the van was at the park the longest than at the restaurant. For Yomiel, it's because he technically died at the park but the meteor fragment stopped life, death and time. And when the fragment was removed, that's the gateway to the past. But if you add common sense, there is no way you can save the van detective from the restaurant itself and there is obviously no way you can save Yomiel's death from the past in the park]].

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***** The best explanation would be this. [[spoiler: Lynne's body for the first time was at the bottom because that's where her corpse lies at the longest. For Jowd, it's because his corpse was carried away and placed on the table. For the detective in the van, his corpse was in the van so technically, the van was at the park the longest than at the restaurant. For Yomiel, it's because he technically died at the park but the meteor fragment stopped life, death and time. And when the fragment was removed, that's the gateway to the past. But if you add common sense, there is no way you can save the van detective from the restaurant itself and there is obviously no way you can save Yomiel's death from Yomiel unless you're in the past in the park]].
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* Why does Sissel have to possess the blackboard to read it, but can clearly see the painting Jowd made without having to possess it?

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** We can't see the words anyway so might as well have Sissel get to it and examine it for us. [[spoiler: Besides, he can't read due to being a cat anyway so might as well just have him hop to it]].

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*** Also, it has a [[spoiler: double meaning for Lynne. Her "meeting with Sissel again" can refer to Lynne meeting Sissel again after 10 years both from the park when she was just a girl and the old timeline memory about Sissel only came back to her though it's most likely still Sissel, Jowd, Missile and Yomiel only know about the old timeline]].



*** Two humans who have [[FridgeHorror NO FUTURE]]

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*** Two humans who have [[FridgeHorror NO FUTURE]]FUTURE]].


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***** The best explanation would be this. [[spoiler: Lynne's body for the first time was at the bottom because that's where her corpse lies at the longest. For Jowd, it's because his corpse was carried away and placed on the table. For the detective in the van, his corpse was in the van so technically, the van was at the park the longest than at the restaurant. For Yomiel, it's because he technically died at the park but the meteor fragment stopped life, death and time. And when the fragment was removed, that's the gateway to the past. But if you add common sense, there is no way you can save the van detective from the restaurant itself and there is obviously no way you can save Yomiel's death from the past in the park]].


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**** It's very simple. [[spoiler: Sissel's real body being possessed by Yomiel accidentally pushed Yomiel's body down. Otherwise, he would have no way to get out. That and Yomiel said that he would bring Sissel along away with him but was horrified to learn that he died]].
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** My guess is that [[spoiler: Yomiel didn't want the past Jowd to know about Ghost Trick powers and prevent the whole investigation of the meteorite from happening in the first place. If he was to manipulate Lynne's clothing or any other inanimate objects in the vicinity, it would have been a dead giveaway that something supernatural had happened rather than the much more simple explanation of Yomiel jumping in to save her. This is assuming that he wanted to avoid possessing Lynne herself as stated above.]]
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** I think they're all RidiculouslyHumanRobots, myself. Like, all the foreigners. Hence why they have blue skin, even though the game is canonically set in the mostly-realistic ''AceAttorney'' universe.

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** I think they're all RidiculouslyHumanRobots, myself. Like, all the foreigners. Hence why they have blue skin, even though the game is canonically set in the mostly-realistic ''AceAttorney'' ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' universe.
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** But it's already been established that [[spoiler: Yomiel can Trick nonliving objects. He is shown to Trick multiple heavy objects simultaneously and levitate them in place. There's no way that his core can be in all of those things at once, so he has to be able to move objects without having his core in them. Why couldn't he have done something like a) move someone by their clothes b) force anything that's falling to move to the left or right? Although he could choke Lynne by accident if he shoved her clothes hard enough. Anything huge that falls would be impossible to stop, but it can be pushed to change its trajectory.]]
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** It's very likely that security on the meteor was weak that night, because of the meeting at the Chicken Kitchen nearby. Maybe Memry and Detective Rindge were assigned to the park, but duty called them to the Chicken Kitchen? I mean, why else would [[spoiler: Yomiel]] pick ''that place'' to meet, if not to create a distraction for Comm. Sith to get his hands on the meteor fragment? The plan ultimately failed because Beauty inadvertently caused a commotion originally, and because [[spoiler: Yomiel]] never showed up in the timeline when you save Lynne from dying yet again.



** Who says that's not the case? [[spoiler: The way I see it, kitten!Sissel didn't die when hit by the fragment, he just got the regenerative powers that prevent him from ageing or getting injured.]]



** I think they're all RidiculouslyHumanRobots, myself. Like, all the foreigners. Hence why they have blue skin, even though the game is canonically set in the mostly-realistic ''AceAttorney'' universe.



** Yomiel can manipulate objects far more effectively than Sissel. When he kills Cabanela, he manipulates objects without leaving his body. Assuming he was able to do this 5 years before, it would've made setting up the death trap as Kamila simpler as well (she's too short to reach some of the objects, and Yomiel wouldn't have wanted to leave her body).

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** Yomiel can manipulate objects far more effectively than Sissel. When he kills Cabanela, he manipulates objects without leaving his body. Assuming he was able to do this 5 years before, it would've made setting up the death trap as Kamila simpler as well (she's too short to reach some of the objects, and Yomiel wouldn't have wanted to leave her body).body).
* Why does Sissel have to possess the blackboard to read it, but can clearly see the painting Jowd made without having to possess it?
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** You can only possess stuff on a person if it's loose-hanging and not secured tightly (like a badge or goggles). In fact, most of the things you can possess seem to be that way- they have to be able to move, even if you can't perform a trick with them. Night sticks swing at the side, at least IRL, cuz you have to be able to grab them quickly. The exceptions are all machines of some sort- the rotator for the fan, the switch and draw for the chandelier, the phones, the crane switch, all the lights, the toilets, the guitar, etc. So it seems the rule is "if it can move or is mechanical", with only a few exceptions to that, which are all in the prison (the blackboard, for instance). Or maybe it's limited to just objects that Sissel actually recognises.
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** Maybe it's a head massager and he's trying to grow some hair?
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* Why is Yomiel able to just have a bunch of random, inanimate objects hover around his soul in order to use as a fully functional body? That's completely different from anything else the ghost tricks are established to be able to do, least of all because he's using multiple things at once.

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* Why is Yomiel able to just have a bunch of random, inanimate objects hover around his soul in order to use as a fully functional body? That's completely different from anything else the ghost tricks are established to be able to do, least of all because he's using multiple things at once.once.
** Yomiel can manipulate objects far more effectively than Sissel. When he kills Cabanela, he manipulates objects without leaving his body. Assuming he was able to do this 5 years before, it would've made setting up the death trap as Kamila simpler as well (she's too short to reach some of the objects, and Yomiel wouldn't have wanted to leave her body).
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* Related to an above point, at the start of erasing Yomiel's death, some optional dialogue has Sissel ponder about how the entire situation would resolve itself if little-Lynne just wondered away. The idea is dismissed immediately though. This would make sense if it was just Sissel and Missile. But Yomiel's there too. Why doesn't he possess little-Lynne and force her to run away? The same question applies to himself after he's taken Lynne hostage. Couldn't he just take control of his own body, and force himself to move out of the way of the fragment path? Hell, for that matter, he's clearly shown he has the ability to control people's bodies in complex ways. Couldn't he just possess himself and force himself to drop his gun, or let little-Lynne go? There just seem to be multiple ways they could have resolved things with Yomiel's help, but instead they just put on a dramatic "heroic-sacrifice" finale, so that Yomiel can come off as more sympathetic.

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* Related to an above point, at the start of erasing Yomiel's death, some optional dialogue has Sissel ponder about how the entire situation would resolve itself if little-Lynne just wondered away. The idea is dismissed immediately though. This would make sense if it was just Sissel and Missile. But Yomiel's there too. Why doesn't he possess little-Lynne and force her to run away? The same question applies to himself after he's taken Lynne hostage. Couldn't he just take control of his own body, and force himself to move out of the way of the fragment path? Hell, for that matter, he's clearly shown he has the ability to control people's bodies in complex ways. Couldn't he just possess himself and force himself to drop his gun, or let little-Lynne go? There just seem to be multiple ways they could have resolved things with Yomiel's help, but instead they just put on a dramatic "heroic-sacrifice" finale, so that Yomiel can come off as more sympathetic.sympathetic.
* Why is Yomiel able to just have a bunch of random, inanimate objects hover around his soul in order to use as a fully functional body? That's completely different from anything else the ghost tricks are established to be able to do, least of all because he's using multiple things at once.
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** The game has the eyebrowed villain discuss one hitman's next paycheck almost immediately after learning he'd been crushed by a wrecking ball, as well as Sissel acting like getting crushed was only temporary and/or no big deal a little earlier, so it seems like the blue guys are very resilient and he was obviously alive after that point so much so that the main character could see it easily. Oh, and when the second hitman is crushed he managed to scream after and not during it pinning him, so he probably is also not permanently harmed.

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* In the final chapter, when "Mino" is falling onto little-Lynne, Yomiel possesses himself to get himself to throw Lynne away, which results in him getting non-fatally crushed instead. Here's the question: Why didn't he just possess little-Lynne and throw her from underneath? He can possess people. Why does he automatically think to possess himself and not Lynne?
* Related to the above, at the start of erasing Yomiel's death, some optional dialogue has Sissel ponder about how the entire situation would resolve itself if little-Lynne just wondered away. The idea is dismissed immediately though. This would make sense if it was just Sissel and Missile. But Yomiel's there too. Why doesn't he possess little-Lynne and force her to run away? The same question applies to himself after he's taken Lynne hostage. Couldn't he just take control of his own body, and force himself to move out of the way of the fragment path? Hell, for that matter, he's clearly shown he has the ability to control people's bodies in complex ways. Couldn't he just possess himself and force himself to drop his gun, or let little-Lynne go? There just seem to be multiple ways they could have resolved things with Yomiel's help, but instead they just put on a dramatic "heroic-sacrifice" finale, so that Yomiel can come off as more sympathetic.

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* In the final chapter, when "Mino" is falling onto little-Lynne, Yomiel possesses himself to get himself to throw Lynne away, which results in him getting non-fatally crushed instead. Here's the question: Why didn't he just possess little-Lynne and throw her from underneath? He can possess people. Why does he automatically think to possess himself and not Lynne?
* Related to the above, an above point, at the start of erasing Yomiel's death, some optional dialogue has Sissel ponder about how the entire situation would resolve itself if little-Lynne just wondered away. The idea is dismissed immediately though. This would make sense if it was just Sissel and Missile. But Yomiel's there too. Why doesn't he possess little-Lynne and force her to run away? The same question applies to himself after he's taken Lynne hostage. Couldn't he just take control of his own body, and force himself to move out of the way of the fragment path? Hell, for that matter, he's clearly shown he has the ability to control people's bodies in complex ways. Couldn't he just possess himself and force himself to drop his gun, or let little-Lynne go? There just seem to be multiple ways they could have resolved things with Yomiel's help, but instead they just put on a dramatic "heroic-sacrifice" finale, so that Yomiel can come off as more sympathetic.
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** [[spoiler: In the ending you're shown the meteorite radiation coming from Sissel, so yes, he was hit. Most likely the shard went through Jowd's leg and then hit Sissel.]]

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** [[spoiler: In the ending you're shown the meteorite radiation coming from Sissel, so yes, he was hit. Most likely the shard went through Jowd's leg and then hit Sissel.]]]]
* The game conveniently avoids the fact that Sissel killed two people. Considering the circumstances, namely that both of said people where seconds away from murdering an innocent woman, it's obviously justified and far from plan murder, but still, the game never brings it up. And it comes off as especially jarring considering there's a number of moments where the game insists that killing is never okay under any circumstances.
* In the final chapter, when "Mino" is falling onto little-Lynne, Yomiel possesses himself to get himself to throw Lynne away, which results in him getting non-fatally crushed instead. Here's the question: Why didn't he just possess little-Lynne and throw her from underneath? He can possess people. Why does he automatically think to possess himself and not Lynne?
* Related to the above, at the start of erasing Yomiel's death, some optional dialogue has Sissel ponder about how the entire situation would resolve itself if little-Lynne just wondered away. The idea is dismissed immediately though. This would make sense if it was just Sissel and Missile. But Yomiel's there too. Why doesn't he possess little-Lynne and force her to run away? The same question applies to himself after he's taken Lynne hostage. Couldn't he just take control of his own body, and force himself to move out of the way of the fragment path? Hell, for that matter, he's clearly shown he has the ability to control people's bodies in complex ways. Couldn't he just possess himself and force himself to drop his gun, or let little-Lynne go? There just seem to be multiple ways they could have resolved things with Yomiel's help, but instead they just put on a dramatic "heroic-sacrifice" finale, so that Yomiel can come off as more sympathetic.

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