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21st Sep '17 10:20:21 PM NOYB
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** As Dany said in the book, Viserion was meant to be a RedeemingReplacement.
21st Sep '17 10:18:20 PM NOYB
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* So, why Tyrion/Sansa and Cersei/Loras? I mean, i get that binding the Lannisters to the Starks and the Tyrell's is important, but why Tyrion and Cersei? Why not marry Tommen and Sansa? It would make a lot more sense politically. a Lannister/Stark marriage alliance probably wouldn't go over well in The North, but a Baratheon/Stark would probably work a lot better. And, as for the Tyrell's, why is a marriage necessary at all? with Joffrey's marriage coming up, and a Tyrell becoming Queen, you'd think that would be enough. Surely Cersei should milk her power as Queen Regent for as long as possible. And, in a world with their kind of medicine, wouldn't it be dangerous for Cersei to have anymore children at her age? Surely there's a younger, unwed female Lannister Tywin could use to bind the family if its that important. It seems like he just chose Tyrion and Cersei because he was pissed at them, which doesn't jive with the coldly pragmatic Tywin we've seen so far.

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* So, why Tyrion/Sansa and Cersei/Loras? I mean, i get that binding the Lannisters to the Starks and the Tyrell's is important, but why Tyrion and Cersei? Why not marry Tommen and Sansa? It would make a lot more sense politically. a Lannister/Stark marriage alliance probably wouldn't go over well in The North, but a Baratheon/Stark would probably work a lot better. And, as for the Tyrell's, why is a marriage necessary at all? with Joffrey's marriage coming up, and a Tyrell becoming Queen, you'd think that would be enough. Surely Cersei should milk her power as Queen Regent for as long as possible. And, in a world with their kind of medicine, wouldn't it be dangerous for Cersei to have anymore any more children at her age? Surely there's a younger, unwed female Lannister Tywin could use to bind the family if its that important. It seems like he just chose Tyrion and Cersei because he was pissed at them, which doesn't jive with the coldly pragmatic Tywin we've seen so far.



** According to the ''Song of Ice and Fire'' RPG book (which has [[WordOfGod Martin's input]]) a King does have the legal authority to legitimize a bastard, which from the wording is something that is unique to a King. While Ned could get Robert to do it easily considering their relationship, Catelyn certainly wouldn't have liked it (at least from his perspective). As for the Fridge Brilliance above: [[spoiler: There is the possibility that Jon is Lyanna Stark's and Rhaegar Targaryen's son, in which case Ned has a damn good reason not to draw anymore attention to Jon then he has to.]]

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** According to the ''Song of Ice and Fire'' RPG book (which has [[WordOfGod Martin's input]]) a King does have the legal authority to legitimize a bastard, which from the wording is something that is unique to a King. While Ned could get Robert to do it easily considering their relationship, Catelyn certainly wouldn't have liked it (at least from his perspective). As for the Fridge Brilliance above: [[spoiler: There is the possibility that Jon is Lyanna Stark's and Rhaegar Targaryen's son, in which case Ned has a damn good reason not to draw anymore any more attention to Jon then he has to.]]
19th Sep '17 10:51:08 PM ergeis
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** It was pointed out here that she wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for him looking after her during exile. So maybe there were some redeeming qualities he had that we never knew about?
19th Sep '17 6:12:54 AM syrusdark
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** She did it because Viserys is the only family she actually ''knew''. Sure, Rhaegar seems like a much better person (and most likely was), but he's just a bunch of stories, Viserys was actually there. He was an abusive prick, but Daenerys probably still feels (or at least felt, back then) some affection for him, that's how a lot of abusive relationships go.
19th Sep '17 1:57:22 AM Tuomas
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* The names Daenerys gives to the three dragons are Drogon, Rhaegal, and Viserion, inspired by Drogo, Rhaeagar Targaryen, and Viserys Targaryen. Now, it makes sense he would name one dragon after his beloved, and another after his heroic older brother (who also inspired the name of his stillborn baby), but why name the third after Viserys? The nasty, egotistical piece of shit for a brother, who treated her like his property, and whose gruesome death only made her happy?

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* The names Daenerys gives to the three dragons are Drogon, Rhaegal, and Viserion, inspired by Drogo, Rhaeagar Targaryen, and Viserys Targaryen. Now, it makes sense he would name one dragon after his beloved, and another after his heroic older brother (who also inspired the name of his her stillborn baby), but why name the third after Viserys? The nasty, egotistical piece of shit for a brother, who treated her like his property, and whose gruesome death only made her happy?
19th Sep '17 1:53:03 AM Tuomas
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* The names Daenerys gives to the three dragons are Drogon, Rhaegal, and Viserion, inspired by Drogo, Rhaeagar Targaryen, and Viserys Targaryen. Now, it makes sense he would name one dragon after his beloved, and another after his heroic older brother (who also inspired the name of his stillborn baby), but why name the third after Viserys? The nasty, egotistical piece of shit for a brother who treated her like his property, and whose gruesome death only made her happy?

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* The names Daenerys gives to the three dragons are Drogon, Rhaegal, and Viserion, inspired by Drogo, Rhaeagar Targaryen, and Viserys Targaryen. Now, it makes sense he would name one dragon after his beloved, and another after his heroic older brother (who also inspired the name of his stillborn baby), but why name the third after Viserys? The nasty, egotistical piece of shit for a brother brother, who treated her like his property, and whose gruesome death only made her happy?
19th Sep '17 1:52:22 AM Tuomas
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* The names Daenerys gives to the three dragons are Drogon, Rhaegal, and Viserion, inspired by Drogo, Rhaeagar Targaryen, and Viserys Targaryen. Now, it makes sense he would name one dragon after his beloved, and another after his heroic older brother (who also inspired the name of his stillborn baby), but why name the third after Viserys? The nasty, egotistical piece of shit for a brother who treated her like his property, and whose gruesome death only made her happy?
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16th Sep '17 6:13:19 PM nombretomado
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* This seem to be noticed and mocked by many people, even SouthPark jabbed at it, so maybe it's a pointless question, but seriously, where are the WWs? We had Three Blasts and Sam encountering that huge undead horde back in Season 2 (or was it even 1?), and then they... what? I think even the Wights, with their leisury gait, should be able to reach the Wall by now, and yet there's not even a wiff of them.

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* This seem to be noticed and mocked by many people, even SouthPark ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' jabbed at it, so maybe it's a pointless question, but seriously, where are the WWs? We had Three Blasts and Sam encountering that huge undead horde back in Season 2 (or was it even 1?), and then they... what? I think even the Wights, with their leisury gait, should be able to reach the Wall by now, and yet there's not even a wiff of them.
22nd Aug '17 4:47:40 PM JulianLapostat
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** It's never spelled out in the books exactly. But from supplementary material, like the hierarchy about warriors, sellswords, knights, hedge knights allows one to infer one or two reasons. Both are guesses, so you can take it or leave it. Essentially Tarth is both an Island and a House, a real {{Egopolis}}. She is Lady Brienne Tarth of Tarth. So she might reduce it to something simpler and more elegant sounding, like many people did. The second and more probably reason is that Brienne is working as a freebooting hedge knight but she is not officially representing her family and house, because a lady cannot actually be a knight and she is not really being a lady, so she needs a handle to reflect her position, and Brienne of Tarth conveys that. That's about the Watsonian reason, the Doylist reason is well, Creator/GeorgeRRMartin wanted her name to suggest UsefulNotes/JoanOfArc.
22nd Aug '17 4:15:05 PM LupineMoon
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* Why is Brienne called Brienne of Tarth and not Lady Tarth or something like everyone else?
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