History Headscratchers / GameOfThrones

15th Feb '18 10:02:53 PM TheWoosterCode
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* As has been made clear, everyone assumed Arya was dead. When it became too obvious she wasn't being held hostage with Sansa, people could either choose to believe that she died with the rest of Ned's household, or that [[RealityIsUnrealistic a little girl miraculously escaped King's Landing and kept herself alive and out of sight for years on end.]] Which would you rather tell the incredibly arrogant Lord Tywin: the Lannister guards were overzealous in their duties and killed an incredibly valuable hostage, or the Lannister guards were so incompetent they allowed that incredibly valuable child to escape unharmed and flee the city in the direction of her rebel brother?
2nd Feb '18 12:34:24 AM Cryoclaste
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** I feel the need to bring this up again over what just happened. Now I'm starting to think that the Starks ''never'' mattered. At all. They were simply a scapegoat in order for the fans to relate to-good, righteous and well-meaning human beings in this den of vipers -- and they just get completely destroyed with the wedding scene -- like some fantasy version of ''TheGodfather'' and the Baptism scene. It feels to me like they just serve no purpose, and are meant to die.

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** I feel the need to bring this up again over what just happened. Now I'm starting to think that the Starks ''never'' mattered. At all. They were simply a scapegoat in order for the fans to relate to-good, righteous and well-meaning human beings in this den of vipers -- and they just get completely destroyed with the wedding scene -- like some fantasy version of ''TheGodfather'' ''Film/TheGodfather'' and the Baptism scene. It feels to me like they just serve no purpose, and are meant to die.
31st Dec '17 10:22:47 AM nombretomado
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* How is it decided for the order of the cast in the TitleSequence? I know the cast changes line-up every other season or so, but will this show ever do a ''GreysAnatomy'' or ''TheCatch'' and stick to one title sequence (since those shows very rarely if ever had a SpecialEditionTitle). [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters Since the show had over 100 characters]], how was it decided on? Aren't there SAG rules about crediting?

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* How is it decided for the order of the cast in the TitleSequence? I know the cast changes line-up every other season or so, but will this show ever do a ''GreysAnatomy'' ''Series/GreysAnatomy'' or ''TheCatch'' ''Series/TheCatch'' and stick to one title sequence (since those shows very rarely if ever had a SpecialEditionTitle). [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters Since the show had over 100 characters]], how was it decided on? Aren't there SAG rules about crediting?
26th Nov '17 3:15:01 PM Fireblood
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*** Good point, I forgot about Syrio. Though if Trant didn't kill him, then why didn't anyone notice? If he were Jaqen though, it would explain a lot, including how he got into the Red Keep to be shipped off with the other convicts.
26th Nov '17 7:14:16 AM syrusdark
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** Also a case of RealityIsUnrealistic, in real life artificial respiration does not bring people back to life, specially not in a medieval setting. What it does itís in some cases keep the oxygen flow to the brain until appropriate medical care can be perform thus avoiding brain damage. No one just wakes ups and spits water after CPR as in the movies.

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** Also a case of RealityIsUnrealistic, in real life artificial respiration does not bring people back to life, specially not in a medieval setting. What it does itís it’s in some cases keep the oxygen flow to the brain until appropriate medical care can be perform thus avoiding brain damage. No one just wakes ups and spits water after CPR as in the movies.


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*** Well, she was being trained in fencing by a very prominent figure in Braavos (Syrio used to be the main bodyguard of one of the rulers of the place), that alone may be enough for her to be noticed by the Faceless Men (and that's not even getting into theories that Syrio himself was Jaqen).
25th Nov '17 11:51:58 PM Fireblood
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*** Many possibilities indeed. Why would he want to recruit Arya before seeing her in person however? What would have got attention from the Faceless Men to her?
25th Nov '17 6:06:34 AM syrusdark
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** The answer may be that he simply '''wanted''' to be in that situation. We don't know exactly what his mission is, or how he plans to complete it (or even if he only has one mission, or a small list of them), so it's very hard to judge any action he takes. We also don't know at which point the Facelees Man became Jaqen, for all we know the Jaqen who was in the Black Cells and the Jaqen who was taken to be brought to the Night's Watch might have been different people. One theory is that Jaqen actually planned to recruit Arya into their organisation, so putting himself in the same travel group as her, and then helping her fullfil part of her revenge might all have been his actual mission.
23rd Nov '17 12:05:23 PM trixus
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** Faceless don't kill unless they are paid or owe someone otherwise they let events unfold. Plus the less they show off, the less someone comes to Bravoos asking for their temple to be burned.
14th Nov '17 3:49:06 PM Fireblood
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** It he was caught, then simply changing his face might be dangerous. They might kill him out of fear it that were witnessed. On the other hand, it might be he had some plan which we the audience were not privy to which being imprisoned played into. It's also possible he simply was biding his time until an opportunity to escape arose that wouldn't give him away. Changing your face does not by itself let you escape a locked prisoner's cage, after all. Arya's actions probably keyed him into her potential, so he stuck around after that to reward her for saving his life and assess her further.
13th Nov '17 11:19:07 AM ahmerali
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* If I learned anything from {{Mission:Impossible}}, it's that the ability to impersonate someone else convincingly makes you nigh omnipotent. The Faceless Men seem to have the ability to do this. So how is it possible for Jaqen H'ghar to be a prisoner in a cage being taken to the Wall to become one of the Night's Watch, after being a prisoner in the Red Keep? Did he somehow lose the will or the ability to kill one of the guards and take his face, in order to escape, at any point in time he chose? Even in Harrenhal, it should be completely trivial for him to kill a Lannister soldier, take his armor, and get the hell out of Dodge. When he leaves Arya to head back to Braavos, he is able to change his face in a matter of a second, so why did he wait so long? Was attracting Arya to Braavos part of his plan all along? Doesn't make any sense.
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