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** Which of course means that the robots brains are designed for ''colonists'', not ''workers''.
*** Yeah, but they couldn't build robots the normal way with the damage the factory had accrued.

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** Which of course means that the robots brains are designed for ''colonists'', not ''workers''.
*** Yeah, but they couldn't build robots the normal way
''workers''. They were improvised after [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1500/fv01410.htm slight]] [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1500/fv01411.htm difficulties]] with the damage the factory had accrued.
factory.
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** Like the [[{{JustBugsMe/Ptitle32kl1nkj}} Mage: The Ascension JBM]] put it, "Belief is "I know this toaster will toast my bread in about two to five minutes because that is how toasters work, even though I'm no electrician."", e. g. those who do not understand tech '''treat''' it as magic. Knowing that Mark lives and works in the most religios and superstitous country of the First World, this is most propably what he meant.

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** Like the [[{{JustBugsMe/Ptitle32kl1nkj}} [[Headscratchers/{{Ptitle32kl1nkj}} Mage: The Ascension JBM]] put it, "Belief is "I know this toaster will toast my bread in about two to five minutes because that is how toasters work, even though I'm no electrician."", e. g. those who do not understand tech '''treat''' it as magic. Knowing that Mark lives and works in the most religios and superstitous country of the First World, this is most propably what he meant.
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Picayune, I know, but [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1300/fv01201.htm when I saw Sam complain that Terrans don't have any looting songs,]] I couldn't help but think, "[[WithCatlikeTread Yes, we do!]]"

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Picayune, I know, but [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1300/fv01201.htm when I saw Sam complain that Terrans don't have any looting songs,]] I couldn't help but think, "[[WithCatlikeTread Yes, we do!]]"do!]]"
* If his species is way more likely to loot, shouldn't they also be lighter sleepers? I suppose they'd probably wake up instantly if you tried to take away their skeleton, but still.

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--> '''Sam:''' The station spins, my inertia resists. I'm starting to pick up speed relative to the station because I'm starting to stand still.
****** How can that possibly refer to him skating?
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*** Sam doesn't have any bones, so even though he has close to human body mass, he can pull it into a much tighter space without trouble.

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<<|ItJustBugsMe|>>[[WMG: 'Not one good looting song'?]]
Picayune, I know, but [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1300/fv01201.htm when I saw Sam complain that Terrans don't have any looting songs,]] I couldn't help but think, "[[WithCatlikeTread Yes, we do!]]"
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* Why is it that uplifted chimps were described as sociopaths, when chimps do in fact have empathy and compassion? On the other hand, wolves do not feel empathy. Florence should be the sociopath, although a loyal one socially compatible with humans.

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* Why is it that uplifted chimps were described as sociopaths, when chimps do in fact have empathy and compassion? On the other hand, wolves do not feel empathy. Florence should be the sociopath, although a loyal one socially compatible with humans.
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** Like the [[{{JustBugsMe/Ptitle32kl1nkj}} Mage: The Ascension JBM}} put it, "Belief is "I know this toaster will toast my bread in about two to five minutes because that is how toasters work, even though I'm no electrician."", e. g. those who do not understand tech '''treat''' it as magic. Knowing that Mark lives and works in the most religios and superstitous country of the First World, this is most propably what he meant.

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** Like the [[{{JustBugsMe/Ptitle32kl1nkj}} Mage: The Ascension JBM}} JBM]] put it, "Belief is "I know this toaster will toast my bread in about two to five minutes because that is how toasters work, even though I'm no electrician."", e. g. those who do not understand tech '''treat''' it as magic. Knowing that Mark lives and works in the most religios and superstitous country of the First World, this is most propably what he meant.
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** Like the MageTheAscension JBM put it, "Belief is "I know this toaster will toast my bread in about two to five minutes because that is how toasters work, even though I'm no electrician."", e. g. those who do not understand tech '''treat''' it as magic. Knowing that Mark lives and works in the most religios and superstitous country of the First World, this is most propably what he meant.

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** Like the MageTheAscension JBM [[{{JustBugsMe/Ptitle32kl1nkj}} Mage: The Ascension JBM}} put it, "Belief is "I know this toaster will toast my bread in about two to five minutes because that is how toasters work, even though I'm no electrician."", e. g. those who do not understand tech '''treat''' it as magic. Knowing that Mark lives and works in the most religios and superstitous country of the First World, this is most propably what he meant.

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--->''"Surely," protested the Herald Tribune, "there is a fundamental difference. We are accustomed to Science. On your world there are doubtless many things which we might not understand -- but they wouldn't seem magic to us."''

--->''"Are you quite sure of that?" said Karellen, so softly that it was hard to hear his words. "Only a hundred years lies between the age of electricity and the age of steam, but what would a Victorian engineer have made of a television set or an electronic computer. And how long would he have lived if he started to investigate their workings? The gulf between two technologies can easily become so great that it is -- lethal."''

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--->''"Surely," protested the Herald Tribune, "there is a fundamental difference. We are accustomed to Science. On your world there are doubtless many things which we might not understand -- but they wouldn't seem magic to us."''

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''"Are
you quite sure of that?" said Karellen, so softly that it was hard to hear his words. "Only a hundred years lies between the age of electricity and the age of steam, but what would a Victorian engineer have made of a television set or an electronic computer. And how long would he have lived if he started to investigate their workings? The gulf between two technologies can easily become so great that it is -- lethal."''
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->''"Surely," protested the Herald Tribune, "there is a fundamental difference. We are accustomed to Science. On your world there are doubtless many things which we might not understand -- but they wouldn't seem magic to us."''

->''"Are you quite sure of that?" said Karellen, so softly that it was hard to hear his words. "Only a hundred years lies between the age of electricity and the age of steam, but what would a Victorian engineer have made of a television set or an electronic computer. And how long would he have lived if he started to investigate their workings? The gulf between two technologies can easily become so great that it is -- lethal."''

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->''"Surely," --->''"Surely," protested the Herald Tribune, "there is a fundamental difference. We are accustomed to Science. On your world there are doubtless many things which we might not understand -- but they wouldn't seem magic to us."''

->''"Are --->''"Are you quite sure of that?" said Karellen, so softly that it was hard to hear his words. "Only a hundred years lies between the age of electricity and the age of steam, but what would a Victorian engineer have made of a television set or an electronic computer. And how long would he have lived if he started to investigate their workings? The gulf between two technologies can easily become so great that it is -- lethal."''
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->''"Surely," protested the Herald Tribune, "there is a fundamental difference. We are accustomed to Science. On your world there are doubtless many things which we might not understand -- but they wouldn't seem magic to us."''\\

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->''"Surely," protested the Herald Tribune, "there is a fundamental difference. We are accustomed to Science. On your world there are doubtless many things which we might not understand -- but they wouldn't seem magic to us."''\\"''
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*** Well Clarke himself wrote in '''Childhood's End''':
->''"Surely," protested the Herald Tribune, "there is a fundamental difference. We are accustomed to Science. On your world there are doubtless many things which we might not understand -- but they wouldn't seem magic to us."''\\
->''"Are you quite sure of that?" said Karellen, so softly that it was hard to hear his words. "Only a hundred years lies between the age of electricity and the age of steam, but what would a Victorian engineer have made of a television set or an electronic computer. And how long would he have lived if he started to investigate their workings? The gulf between two technologies can easily become so great that it is -- lethal."''
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*** Yeah, but theycouldn't build robots the normal way with the damage the factory had accrued.

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*** Yeah, but theycouldn't they couldn't build robots the normal way with the damage the factory had accrued.

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*** Yeah, but theycouldn't build robots the normal way with the damage the factory had accrued.



**** Not that this is an argument against the above explanations/discussion, but has anyone else considered RuleOfFunny?

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**** Not that this is an argument against the above explanations/discussion, but has anyone else considered RuleOfFunny? RuleOfFunny?
***** What, that the uplift failed, or the fact that they apparently make great CEOs?
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** Like the MageTheAscension JBM put it, "Belief is "I know this toaster will toast my bread in about two to five minutes because that is how toasters work, even though I'm no electrician."", e. g. those who do not understand tech '''treat''' it as magic. Knowing that Mark lives and works in the most religios and superstitous country of the First World, this is most propably what he meant.
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* As of [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1800/fc01782.htm this]] strip it sounds like the Chimps [[GoneHorriblyRight went horribly right]].
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** I saw that as 'take a deep breath'.. more concerned with the 'yank a part of your face off'. It's been implied several times that Sam the squidoid is not as large as the suit. Like when he was talking to the short 'Texan', he pulled the legs of the suit up into the torso, calling them 'armatures'. (I don't remember the strip exactly, unfortunately; it was when they were getting the contract to launch the satellites.) The suit seemed to me kind of like the old guy from the first Men in Black movie, a little alien in a big suit.

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** Evidence that wolves "do not feel empathy"? Been mindmelded to a wolf lately or something?


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** Evidence that wolves "do not feel empathy"? Been mindmelded to a wolf lately or something?
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*RuleOfFunny Get over it.
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** Which of course means that the robots brains are designed for ''colonists'', not ''workers''.
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* They were [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff800/fv00711.htm "proof of concept"]] models for an attempt to colonize [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff800/fv00710.htm Pfouts]] by uplifting a native species. Unfortunately the project was cut and the prototypes were sold as pets due to a "clerical error".
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[[WMG: Flo's Space Suit]]
Where did she get one that could fit her head?

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[[WMG: Flo's Space Suit]]
Where did she get one that could fit her head?
Why were the Bowman Wolves created?]]
It would be a lot cheaper, safer, easier, and less ethically gray to simply hire and train human workers than to genetically engineer an entirely new sentient race. Each Wolf must cost a fortune to make.
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[[WMG: Flo's Space Suit]]
Where did she get one that could fit her head?
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** It's not that strange - after all, a human can easily survive for short periods of time in a low-oxygen environment, so there's no reason why Sam would be any different. As long as he doesn't leave his faceplace off for more than a minute or two, he wouldn't feel much of any effect. As for the sleeves,they appear to be fairly tight around the shoulder, so there wouldn't be much air-leakage. On the other hand, if his suit springs a leak in a less-tight area, it could depressurize the whole thing in short order, which would be potentially fatal...
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** Oh, right, [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1300/fv01238.htm higher oxygen content]]. Still, I don't understand how is that suit supposed to work if Sam can just [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1500/fc01490.htm take it apart on the go]].

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[[WMG: Sam's enviromental suit]]
* It is established that Sam's species is native to a world with a mich higher air pressure than humans. Sam is unable to stay awake and conscious in Earth-level pressure, and thus needs his enviromental suit while he's staying on Jean. So it really bugs me that he can take off the faceplate and even a sleeve.

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** It's also possible that relativistic speeds are required.
[[WMG: Sam's enviromental environmental suit]]
* It is established that Sam's species is native to a world with a mich much higher air pressure than humans. Sam is unable to stay awake and conscious in Earth-level pressure, and thus needs his enviromental environmental suit while he's staying on Jean. So it really bugs me that he can take off the faceplate and even a sleeve.sleeve.
** Higher oxygen content, not necessarily higher pressure.
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***** Check the lifted foot in panel five. He isn't just standing there, he's skating against the spin. He just doesn't [[CaptainObvious say that]].
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* It is established that Sam's species is native to a world with a mich higher air pressure than humans. Sam is unable to stay awake and conscious in Earth-level pressure, and thus needs his enviromental suit while he's staying on Jean. So it really bugs me that he can take off the faceplate and even a sleeve.
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** Who says they can do it on that scale, and altering the density of space-time is said to be Dangerous And Very Expensive.

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