History Headscratchers / FinalFantasyX2

!! Why were Logos and Ormi counting the bodies in the Den of Woe? Furthering that, how many soldiers were involved in the operation in the first place?

*** Probably an effect of being Unsent for so long, he managed to keep his humanity by clinging to the purpose of gathering knowledge but eventually forgot all else that wasn't conducive to that purpose. Mika likely did not have that problem because he was relatively "young" compared to Maechen while Yunalesca, being a Summoner, knew how to maintain her identity after death...or did she?

!! Why does Shuyin still want to use Vegnagun on Bevelle (and presumably the rest of Spira once it starts up)? He seems aware that time has passed.
* For revenge. Duh.

!! Why does Shuyin still want to use Vegnagun on Bevelle (and presumably the rest of Spira once it starts up)? He seems aware that time has passed.
* For revenge. Duh.

** It was a control thing. During the days of sin, Yevon controlled nearly all of Spira. People prayed to Yevon hoping to "atone" for their past sins in the hope that Sin would go away. They attempt to destroy Sin with a huge machina, it's a lose-lose situation for them. Sin is destroyed, they lose control of the people. Sin isn't destroyed, they're exposed as hypocrites for betraying their own teachings.

** The side opposing a group that thought "giant indiscriminate fishmonster holding our dead in purgatory" was a good idea - its pretty clear both sides of the war were both extremely desperate and completely, stupidly insane at that point regarding weapons development. The difference is, the ones who built Vegnagun were smart enough to realize that maybe they shouldn't activate such a poorly designed overpowered WMD, while the other side ''did'' activate their fishmonster and the rest is history.

** Maechen mentions this in Chapter 5- the fact that Vegnagun can't detect friend from foe once activated made it too dangerous. Besides, even if they brought down the damn thing, as long as Yu Yevon escaped unharmed (which face it, is a pretty small target) he could eventually reform Sin.

** Senility?

** I always figured it was just a really good disguise Leblanc pulled off, and the Songstress dressphere allowed her to sing competently. In the international version, they didn't fix Fake!Yuna's face during the intro, making it look a bit like a mask. My two cents...

!! Alright Maechen, how did you manage to forget that you're dead and that you've been wandering Spira as an unsent for about a thousand years?

* So... what exactly was the point of the intro story-wise? Why exactly did Leblanc steal Yuna's garment grid? Why did she put on a friggen ''concert'' as Yuna? What was she trying to do? I don't care if the intro was to "set the mood" of the game, this is the introduction to the story of the ENTIRE game and it's not explained why it happened in the first place!

* Why does the Celsius even need a Barkeep? There are only six people regularly on the ship (plus the occasional hitchhiker); can't they pour their own drinks?

* Why are there Fiends in the Farplane? Isn't that the point of a Sending, so that these spirits can be put to rest and ''not'' become Fiends?

* If Vegnagun has been chilling under Bevelle since the Machina war and the Maesters knew about it then how come they never used it against Sin? It has the power to wreck the planet so why not aim it at Yu Yevon's space whale and permanently erase Zanarkand's memory?

* Shuyin thinks that he can end the Machina War by jacking Vegnagun and turning it on Bevelle. Thing is, he's absolutely right. Why did Lenne stop him? She's from Zanarkand too and as a summoner it's very likely that she's a part of Zanarkand's army so why does she care if her boyfriend annihilates them? Finish off Bevelle then fly back to Zanarkand and give Shuyin a Medal.

* Why does Tidus revive now? The fayth trolled him two years ago about how he is going to disintegrate regardless of what happens. Now, the fayth shows up at the last second explaining he can revive him... To make it more ridiculous it's up to Yuna to decide and it would be completely selfish to say no.

* Okay, in the opening FMV, it's Leblanc and not Yuna performing the concert, because she stole the Songstress Dressphere, right? So where in ''creepy stalker lesbian Hell'' did Leblanc get a dressphere to imitate Yuna's ''summoner'' outfit, let alone her actual full appearance...?

* Who thought it would be a good idea to create something like Vegnagun? Strong enough to destroy all of Spira in one go, artificially intelligent but not to the point where it's smart enough to tell friend from foe? Separately, why are its controls a piano?

* Why was Shuyin's spirit locked in the Den of Woe, with presumably no way out besides through possessing people? Theories come down to he was buried/killed there, but Vegnagun was clearly in Bevelle, and he and Lenne were shot right in front of it. Why would his body be buried in a random cave that's nearly the half the map of Spira away from Bevelle?
* Alright Maechen, how did you manage to forget that you're dead and that you've been wandering Spira as an unsent for about a thousand years?

** Think about what the human race did in the 20th century--we created weapons powerful enough to destroy most living things on the world. The Vegnagun situation on Spira is reminiscent of the Doomsday Device in the movie Dr. Strangelove. Can't help you regarding the question about why its control are a piano, though.

* Why was Shuyin's spirit locked in the Den of Woe, with presumably no way out besides through possessing people? Theories come down to he was buried/killed there, but Vegnagun was clearly in Bevelle, and he and Lenne were shot right in front of it. Why would his body be buried in a random cave that's nearly the half the map of Spira away from Bevelle?

** The side opposing a group that thought "giant indiscriminate fishmonster holding our dead in purgatory" was a good idea - its pretty clear both sides of the war were both extremely desperate and completely, stupidly insane at that point regarding weapons development. The difference is, the ones who built Vegnagun were smart enough to realize that maybe they shouldn't activate such a poorly designed overpowered WMD, while the other side ''did'' activate their fishmonster and the rest is history.

* Who thought it would be a good idea to create something like Vegnagun? Strong enough to destroy all of Spira in one go, artificially intelligent but not to the point where it's smart enough to tell friend from foe? Separately, why are its controls a piano?

* Who thought it would be a good idea to create something like Vegnagun? Strong enough to destroy all of Spira in one go, artificially intelligent but not to the point where it's smart enough to tell friend from foe? Separately, why are its control a piano?

** She stole the whole Garment Grid. That's why she's able to impersonate Yuna. Presumably the Songstress Dressphere was the only one she had. Yuna was wearing her Summoner outfit when she first acquired the Grid (as the "Eternal Calm" prologue confirms). So when Leblanc put on the Grid with no Dressphere in it, that was the default outfit. She was spherechanging into the Songstress for the first time. I know the "Bare" Dresspheres would contradict this but that's only in the International and Last Mission editions.

** She stole the whole Garment Grid. That's why she's able to impersonate Yuna. Presumably the Songstress Dressphere was the only one she had. Yuna was wearing her Summoner outfit when she first acquired the Grid (as the "Eternal Calm" prologue confirms). So when Leblanc put on the Grid with no Dressphere in it, that was the default outfit. She was spherechanging into the Songstress for the first time. I know the "Bare" Dresspheres would contradict this but that's only in the International and Last Mission editions.
* "Hey, let's design a machina that can destroy all of Spira, is borderline artificially intelligent, and can't tell friend from foe. BEST IDEA EVER!" What wackadoodle can be attributed this quote?

** She stole the whole Garment Grid. That's why she's able to impersonate Yuna. Presumably the Songstress Dressphere was the only one she had. Yuna was wearing her Summoner outfit when she first acquired the Grid (as the "Eternal Calm" prologue confirms). So when Leblanc put on the Grid with no Dressphere in it, that was the default outfit. She was spherechanging into the Songstress for the first time. I know the "Bare" Dresspheres would contradict this but that's only in the International and Last Mission editions.