History Headscratchers / ElGoonishShive

1st Jun '16 7:22:59 PM Vilui
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** Two of the chapter titles have "T Minus" in their names.
9th Feb '16 10:13:20 PM Servbot52
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[[folder:“Before you dated my brother?”]]
*After learning about how Nanase use to date a lot of guys Ellen asks [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=1298 “Before you dated my brother?”]] I read this as asking “did you cheat on Eliot when dating him.” Nanase didn’t actually answer the question. Her reaction to the question could be interpreted as meaning yes she did. Why is this not treated as a big deal? Is this ever brought up again?

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29th Jan '16 10:25:52 PM Tyranidsrock
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* in [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=1059 this comic]] Amanda reads a question about a countdown, which is revealed to be from Dan, and he states it will make sense after the next story arc. What countdown, where, and how? The closest thing I've seen to a countdown reading that is the number 4 being on screen along with some footage of a loony paranormal investigator.

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30th Aug '15 2:40:23 PM Discar
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*** And then gone again. However, reason was given in the commentary -- basically, what happened was that Dan eventually stopped doing color pages because he felt it took up too much time for the gain, then by Squirrel Prophet had figured out new techniques that cut down on that so he felt comfortable doing color pages again, and then after a while he realized that while the actual implementation was now fairly painless, he spent way too much time deciding on colors for things without set colors.

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*** ** And then gone again. However, reason was given in the commentary -- basically, what happened was that Dan eventually stopped doing color pages because he felt it took up too much time for the gain, then by Squirrel Prophet had figured out new techniques that cut down on that so he felt comfortable doing color pages again, and then after a while he realized that while the actual implementation was now fairly painless, he spent way too much time deciding on colors for things without set colors.
30th Aug '15 3:30:48 AM LordInsane
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*** And then gone again. However, reason was given in the commentary -- basically, what happened was that Dan eventually stopped doing color pages because he felt it took up too much time for the gain, then by Squirrel Prophet had figured out new techniques that cut down on that so he felt comfortable doing color pages again, and then after a while he realized that while the actual implementation was now fairly painless, he spent way too much time deciding on colors for things without set colors.
31st Jul '15 9:41:52 PM kelly24601
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** Ellen is the physical manifestation of Elliott's curse. The curse was femininity. It only makes sense that her gender identity is female, since her very being is defined as a physical manifestation of femininity.
15th Apr '15 1:21:29 PM Discar
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*** We've now seen several background characters with blue, purple and green hair around Moperville South HS, more than one would expect as just a fashion statement.

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*** ** We've now seen several background characters with blue, purple and green hair around Moperville South HS, more than one would expect as just a fashion statement.



*** So dark everyone thinks she's a brunette. And Susan can find large amounts of almost anything -- she lives in "the Snoot Creek subdivision" and all that.
*** Susan dyes her hair black, not blue.
*** [[http://elgoonishshive.com/Filler/d/20070223.html Wrong]].

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*** ** So dark everyone thinks she's a brunette. And Susan can find large amounts of almost anything -- she lives in "the Snoot Creek subdivision" and all that.
*** ** Susan dyes her hair black, not blue.
*** ** [[http://elgoonishshive.com/Filler/d/20070223.html Wrong]].



*** [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2010-02-04 Something like that anyway.]]

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*** ** [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2010-02-04 Something like that anyway.]]



*** Ellen and Nanase, in addition to being two of the stronger fighters, each stronger than Justin, had their own magic tricks, flight/illusion for Nanase, beams for Ellen. Justin hadn't awakened his 'flaming kicks' yet- nowadays he might be strong enough.

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*** ** Ellen and Nanase, in addition to being two of the stronger fighters, each stronger than Justin, had their own magic tricks, flight/illusion for Nanase, beams for Ellen. Justin hadn't awakened his 'flaming kicks' yet- nowadays he might be strong enough.



*** See "[[http://www.egscomics.com/sketchbook/?date=2002-07-04 All your yarn are belong to us]]" fact sheet.

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*** ** See "[[http://www.egscomics.com/sketchbook/?date=2002-07-04 All your yarn are belong to us]]" fact sheet.



*** Agreed. Hedge does mention that they were all about to be allowed back into normal society at the time of Grace's birthday, and they had jobs offered to them. We'll probably see them again at some point, but only as a cameo. They've had a happy ending already; they probably won't be playing a very big part in the comic again.

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*** ** Agreed. Hedge does mention that they were all about to be allowed back into normal society at the time of Grace's birthday, and they had jobs offered to them. We'll probably see them again at some point, but only as a cameo. They've had a happy ending already; they probably won't be playing a very big part in the comic again.



*** Rebuttal: Even in irregular combat situations, close-quarters fighting still isn't very useful, mostly because if the enemy is that close to you, then you probably screwed up somehow. Plus, armies already have perfectly adequate close-quarters fighting techniques and weapons (like combat knifes and bayonets), and such fights are more often decided by skill then physiology (look at the fight between Grace and Damien). Also, there is no real indication that they are far stronger then normal, and their Main/ShapeSifting abilities would make it difficult to wear body. Furthermore, it doesn't look like Vlad and Guineas could wield modern weapons effectively, if at all. Finally, you can't seem to make a whole lot of [[Main/SuperSoldier Super Soldiers]] this way, rendering their impact on anything other then ''very'' small battles extremely low.
**** As stated below, they weren't really super-soldiers, just super-assasins. Being able to transform into a harmless-looking animal would certainly be helpful for a stealth-killer. The halfway form may not have even been intentional, it could've just happened--after all, Grace gets the halfway form automatically whenever they give her a new animal form with the transformation gun without having to also program in a halfway form. A bit more work was thrown into Grace, but that was specifically tailoring her to fight one person, and proved successful (mostly because they made her immune to his main weapon).
***** While super-assassins make more sense then super-soldier, Grace and her brothers wouldn't make very effective assassins. While being able to turn into a small, harmless animal is useful for stealth reasons, there's more to being a good assassin being stealthy, especially for one in the employ of a large nation-state. The assassin would also have to be able to kill silently, so they can get away for another mission, and kill the target in such a way that it isn't apparent that the target has been assassinated. Otherwise people are going to get suspicious when the nation-states enemies start dieing mysteriously, even if they can't figure out how that nation is killing them, which would defeat the whole propose of killing them stealthily. Furthermore, the smart enemies would increase their security after a few successful hits, making it harder to kill the people the nation would most want to kill.
***** Also, creating an assassin like Grace to fight one person is a massive investment of resources and time for one goal, especially considering that: Damien was only a rumor, so tailoring someone to fight him would be extremely difficult at best; there would be a very long lag time between the creation of the fighter and the time when that person would be able to fight Damien; and there was never any indication that he couldn't be killed by anything else, sure he had healing powers, but I'd imagine that a bullet to the head would still be lethal to anyone that isn't explicitly immortal.
****** It seems to me that the real threat of Damien is his regeneration. The only thing unique about Grace is that she has Lespuko poison claws, which allows her to get around that problem. Even if Damien was just a rumor, I imagine the scientists would want to preempt any regenerating combatant.
******* Well, that and being fireproof.
***** Why hand someone a gun when you can make him invulnerable and on fire? Let’s not forget that, for all intents and purposes, the whole project was a spectacular failure anyway.

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*** ** Rebuttal: Even in irregular combat situations, close-quarters fighting still isn't very useful, mostly because if the enemy is that close to you, then you probably screwed up somehow. Plus, armies already have perfectly adequate close-quarters fighting techniques and weapons (like combat knifes and bayonets), and such fights are more often decided by skill then physiology (look at the fight between Grace and Damien). Also, there is no real indication that they are far stronger then normal, and their Main/ShapeSifting abilities would make it difficult to wear body. Furthermore, it doesn't look like Vlad and Guineas could wield modern weapons effectively, if at all. Finally, you can't seem to make a whole lot of [[Main/SuperSoldier Super Soldiers]] this way, rendering their impact on anything other then ''very'' small battles extremely low.
**** ** As stated below, they weren't really super-soldiers, just super-assasins. Being able to transform into a harmless-looking animal would certainly be helpful for a stealth-killer. The halfway form may not have even been intentional, it could've just happened--after all, Grace gets the halfway form automatically whenever they give her a new animal form with the transformation gun without having to also program in a halfway form. A bit more work was thrown into Grace, but that was specifically tailoring her to fight one person, and proved successful (mostly because they made her immune to his main weapon).
***** ** While super-assassins make more sense then super-soldier, Grace and her brothers wouldn't make very effective assassins. While being able to turn into a small, harmless animal is useful for stealth reasons, there's more to being a good assassin being stealthy, especially for one in the employ of a large nation-state. The assassin would also have to be able to kill silently, so they can get away for another mission, and kill the target in such a way that it isn't apparent that the target has been assassinated. Otherwise people are going to get suspicious when the nation-states enemies start dieing mysteriously, even if they can't figure out how that nation is killing them, which would defeat the whole propose of killing them stealthily. Furthermore, the smart enemies would increase their security after a few successful hits, making it harder to kill the people the nation would most want to kill.
***** ** Also, creating an assassin like Grace to fight one person is a massive investment of resources and time for one goal, especially considering that: Damien was only a rumor, so tailoring someone to fight him would be extremely difficult at best; there would be a very long lag time between the creation of the fighter and the time when that person would be able to fight Damien; and there was never any indication that he couldn't be killed by anything else, sure he had healing powers, but I'd imagine that a bullet to the head would still be lethal to anyone that isn't explicitly immortal.
****** ** It seems to me that the real threat of Damien is his regeneration. The only thing unique about Grace is that she has Lespuko poison claws, which allows her to get around that problem. Even if Damien was just a rumor, I imagine the scientists would want to preempt any regenerating combatant.
******* ** Well, that and being fireproof.
***** ** Why hand someone a gun when you can make him invulnerable and on fire? Let’s Let's not forget that, for all intents and purposes, the whole project was a spectacular failure anyway.



*** Agreed. They were shapeshifters created because the company needed a gimmick to stand out in the assassin market, and people are looking for effectiveness?

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*** ** Agreed. They were shapeshifters created because the company needed a gimmick to stand out in the assassin market, and people are looking for effectiveness?




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*** Been a while since my archive binge, but if I remember right, Guineas was basically a test of the process – a literal guinea pig, if you will.
**** As was Vlad. Actually, the whole project was pretty much still in beta when it collapsed.
***** And Dan Shive admitted that Guineas was a bit of a throwaway in the supplements after "Painted Black" ended – apparently he was stuck for what animal to use, and a friend of his who owned a guinea pig suggested that.
****** Er... Maybe because it's silly? This is supposed to be a dramedy, after all. Besides, compared to some of the ''actual'' stuff dreamed up by the real US Department of Defense (incendiary bats, pigeon guided missiles), maybe squirrel and guinea pig based assassins aren't that far-fetched after all. Dr. Sciuridae as much as admits that the whole animal-based assassins thing was just a marketing gimmmick anyway.
***** Shive also admitted that hedgehogs were his favorite animal, hence Hedge. He said that was also why Hedge had such a cool design.

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*** ** Been a while since my archive binge, but if I remember right, Guineas was basically a test of the process – a literal guinea pig, if you will.
**** ** As was Vlad. Actually, the whole project was pretty much still in beta when it collapsed.
***** ** And Dan Shive admitted that Guineas was a bit of a throwaway in the supplements after "Painted Black" ended – apparently he was stuck for what animal to use, and a friend of his who owned a guinea pig suggested that.
****** ** Er... Maybe because it's silly? This is supposed to be a dramedy, after all. Besides, compared to some of the ''actual'' stuff dreamed up by the real US Department of Defense (incendiary bats, pigeon guided missiles), maybe squirrel and guinea pig based assassins aren't that far-fetched after all. Dr. Sciuridae as much as admits that the whole animal-based assassins thing was just a marketing gimmmick anyway.
***** ** Shive also admitted that hedgehogs were his favorite animal, hence Hedge. He said that was also why Hedge had such a cool design.



*** Or ''Justin'' is.
**** I can think of zillions of possibilities offhand Maybe Justin is just trying to set Tedd at ease and doesn't want to go through all of the possible ramifications. Or maybe they're both just naive kids who have yet to figure out all of the nuances inherent in their own sexuality. Or maybe they simply aren't omniscient or even sophisticated, Or, maybe it might even be possible that ''the author was just trying to set up the joke in the next panel!'' Sheesh.

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*** ** Or ''Justin'' is.
**** ** I can think of zillions of possibilities offhand Maybe Justin is just trying to set Tedd at ease and doesn't want to go through all of the possible ramifications. Or maybe they're both just naive kids who have yet to figure out all of the nuances inherent in their own sexuality. Or maybe they simply aren't omniscient or even sophisticated, Or, maybe it might even be possible that ''the author was just trying to set up the joke in the next panel!'' Sheesh.



*** If I recall correctly, Tedd ''is'' insecure about his gender identity, leading to his freakout at the birthday party when he (as a girl) makes out with Grace (as a guy).
**** Exactly, being insecure in his sexual identity is a huge part of his character, it's almost the first thing you'd say about him after "mad scientist" and "prettier than most of the girls" ...which probably didn't help his confidence.
***** And this is the guy with the gender changing gun? That's a setup for tragedy and a potential Lord Tedd backstory.
****** You might say they're ...NotSoDifferent.

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*** ** If I recall correctly, Tedd ''is'' insecure about his gender identity, leading to his freakout at the birthday party when he (as a girl) makes out with Grace (as a guy).
**** ** Exactly, being insecure in his sexual identity is a huge part of his character, it's almost the first thing you'd say about him after "mad scientist" and "prettier than most of the girls" ...which probably didn't help his confidence.
***** ** And this is the guy with the gender changing gun? That's a setup for tragedy and a potential Lord Tedd backstory.
****** ** You might say they're ...NotSoDifferent.



*** Well, yeah, but I think every major character (with the possible exception of Elliot) has broken down into tears at some point, as well as several minor characters. True, it's sometimes justifiable, but it gets kind of old.
*** It's a character-based series that's been running since January 2002. You're gonna get waterworks.
*** People cry a lot more in real life than you might think. EGS is quite realistic sentimentally wise and with a strong social aspect, so it is only natural to witness those situations.
*** Also, the core cast are teenagers. Hormones flow aplenty during adolescence, and that tends to influence one's emotional responses. There's also the life-and-death situations the cast often find themselves in. A close brush with death, one's own or that of a friend, relative, or significant other, will bring tears unless one is super-stoic.

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*** ** Well, yeah, but I think every major character (with the possible exception of Elliot) has broken down into tears at some point, as well as several minor characters. True, it's sometimes justifiable, but it gets kind of old.
*** ** It's a character-based series that's been running since January 2002. You're gonna get waterworks.
*** ** People cry a lot more in real life than you might think. EGS is quite realistic sentimentally wise and with a strong social aspect, so it is only natural to witness those situations.
*** ** Also, the core cast are teenagers. Hormones flow aplenty during adolescence, and that tends to influence one's emotional responses. There's also the life-and-death situations the cast often find themselves in. A close brush with death, one's own or that of a friend, relative, or significant other, will bring tears unless one is super-stoic.



*** [[ObfuscatingStupidity She says she thinks it's a phase...]]
*** More accurately she thinks it's a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_S_(genre) 'Class S' relationship]], which is an understandable reaction given Mrs. Kitsune's conservative bent.

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*** ** [[ObfuscatingStupidity She says she thinks it's a phase...]]
*** ** More accurately she thinks it's a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_S_(genre) 'Class S' relationship]], which is an understandable reaction given Mrs. Kitsune's conservative bent.



*** Aww man, I always confuse those two, sorry. The point is, that looking younger than what she is is implied to be part of her hybrid nature, with Mr. Verres explicitly saying that it's remarkable that she is 18 and looks 16... it would be remarkable if she was in her 20's, but looking 2 years younger than her actual age is really nothing out of the ordinary.

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*** ** Aww man, I always confuse those two, sorry. The point is, that looking younger than what she is is implied to be part of her hybrid nature, with Mr. Verres explicitly saying that it's remarkable that she is 18 and looks 16... it would be remarkable if she was in her 20's, but looking 2 years younger than her actual age is really nothing out of the ordinary.



*** His female form is naturally busty ''and he was concentrating on Sarah's face rather than her chest''. From what we've seen, there's no reason why he couldn't change any given aspect of his "default" female form if he tried hard enough, he's just not experienced enough with the spell to manage it with any consistency.
**** While the inexperience can be used to explain it (Two times had he failed in making a "perfect" copy, the first becoming ''taller'' than intended and the second in the bust area). But that's no what bugs me, but the fact that no one has acknowledged the existence of masculine girls, or flat chested girls.
***** Let me better explain it: he got that ability from touching the diamond while being in Female Variant #5 form, which modifies men to have normal female measurements for their age and changes height and such, so he can't make his bust size smaller as a girl, because that would violate the rules of [=FV5=]. If he were blasted by [=FV1=] or maybe even [=FV2=]-4, maybe that would be different. I am not Dan Shive, and he hasn't done a Q&A of this, but does that explain it better? (Granted, he can modify his form, but I think that becoming a masculine-looking female would go far out of bounds regarding [=FV5=], and [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2006-11-01 here]] [[http://www.egscomics.com/egsnp/?date=2009-12-15 are]] my sources.)
****** True that, but the diamond seriously ''screwed'' up the magicks. Remember that, Ellen is supposedly the "anthropomorphic representation" of V5, Yet she never had the pheromones... and her magic awakened as "clone-rays" (So far) Likewise, Elliot's magic isn't limited to "transform into a V5 version of yourself" but rather into any girl he wants. Like someone explained above, it seems like if he isn't paying attention while transforming, he will morph into Ellen. If he tries to copy someone he will transform in accordance to what he's thinking, even if he makes mistakes. (He didn't take into account the high heels, and the second time, he was focusing on the face)
****** She's not ''in'' FV5, she's in her default form ''based on'' Elliot in FV5 – that's why she can V5 herself once more (and maybe why in her case it looks rather exaggerated). That, and by the time Elliot touched DD [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2003-07-24 pheromones were normalized long ago]] anyway. Other than this, only basic "twisted curse" effects DD gave them are linked with FV5, they both got derived spells soon enough (because they ''had'' to discharge every day), and those aren't related to FV5.
***** Another thing is that Ellen is made out of magic, so that's why she was able to get a "clone beam" when Elliot is still turning into girls with the MostCommonSuperpower. Seriously, how many times before his awakening has he transformed without the gun? Now how many times before her awakening has Ellen fired her beam? Ellen's natural alignment with magic and her frequency in using her beam would explain that.
***** Ellen was created by magic, but every character that has had direct contact with her and expresses knowledge about the situation, has explicitly refer to her as a human being, and other than her zapping abilities (Which are kind of "normal" on this setting anyway) she doesn't seem to have any magical design. And the other stuff, Elliot can change into any girl she wants. Or doesn't) It's been explicitly shown that he will become Ellen if he just transforms, and he will became someone else(Or someone that doesn't even exists) if he thinks hard enough. either he can change ''everything'' about "her" appearance, or he can't change nothing. Granted, the simplest explanation could be that he hasn't ''thought' of that.
***** Or, you know, he could just be bothered by the fact that he has to ''turn into a girl multiple times per day,'' as opposed to his/her actual ''appearance'' as a girl...

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*** ** His female form is naturally busty ''and he was concentrating on Sarah's face rather than her chest''. From what we've seen, there's no reason why he couldn't change any given aspect of his "default" female form if he tried hard enough, he's just not experienced enough with the spell to manage it with any consistency.
**** ** While the inexperience can be used to explain it (Two times had he failed in making a "perfect" copy, the first becoming ''taller'' than intended and the second in the bust area). But that's no what bugs me, but the fact that no one has acknowledged the existence of masculine girls, or flat chested girls.
***** ** Let me better explain it: he got that ability from touching the diamond while being in Female Variant #5 form, which modifies men to have normal female measurements for their age and changes height and such, so he can't make his bust size smaller as a girl, because that would violate the rules of [=FV5=]. If he were blasted by [=FV1=] or maybe even [=FV2=]-4, maybe that would be different. I am not Dan Shive, and he hasn't done a Q&A of this, but does that explain it better? (Granted, he can modify his form, but I think that becoming a masculine-looking female would go far out of bounds regarding [=FV5=], and [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2006-11-01 here]] [[http://www.egscomics.com/egsnp/?date=2009-12-15 are]] my sources.)
****** ** True that, but the diamond seriously ''screwed'' up the magicks. Remember that, Ellen is supposedly the "anthropomorphic representation" of V5, Yet she never had the pheromones... and her magic awakened as "clone-rays" (So far) Likewise, Elliot's magic isn't limited to "transform into a V5 version of yourself" but rather into any girl he wants. Like someone explained above, it seems like if he isn't paying attention while transforming, he will morph into Ellen. If he tries to copy someone he will transform in accordance to what he's thinking, even if he makes mistakes. (He didn't take into account the high heels, and the second time, he was focusing on the face)
****** ** She's not ''in'' FV5, she's in her default form ''based on'' Elliot in FV5 – that's why she can V5 herself once more (and maybe why in her case it looks rather exaggerated). That, and by the time Elliot touched DD [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2003-07-24 pheromones were normalized long ago]] anyway. Other than this, only basic "twisted curse" effects DD gave them are linked with FV5, they both got derived spells soon enough (because they ''had'' to discharge every day), and those aren't related to FV5.
***** ** Another thing is that Ellen is made out of magic, so that's why she was able to get a "clone beam" when Elliot is still turning into girls with the MostCommonSuperpower. Seriously, how many times before his awakening has he transformed without the gun? Now how many times before her awakening has Ellen fired her beam? Ellen's natural alignment with magic and her frequency in using her beam would explain that.
***** ** Ellen was created by magic, but every character that has had direct contact with her and expresses knowledge about the situation, has explicitly refer to her as a human being, and other than her zapping abilities (Which are kind of "normal" on this setting anyway) she doesn't seem to have any magical design. And the other stuff, Elliot can change into any girl she wants. Or doesn't) It's been explicitly shown that he will become Ellen if he just transforms, and he will became someone else(Or someone that doesn't even exists) if he thinks hard enough. either he can change ''everything'' about "her" appearance, or he can't change nothing. Granted, the simplest explanation could be that he hasn't ''thought' of that.
***** ** Or, you know, he could just be bothered by the fact that he has to ''turn into a girl multiple times per day,'' as opposed to his/her actual ''appearance'' as a girl...



*** One would think ''30'' years would overpower that, but chalk it up to RuleOfDrama I guess.
*** The "second life" memories shouldn't be included in that total: That was an alternate universe version of Tedd, with his own personality. They may be similar, but "SL-Tedd was a good person who I knew for a decade" does not necessarily guarantee that "EGS-Tedd is a good person". Her memories from Elliot should still be valid, but she's essentially overcompensating for her "Piece that does not fit" issues by denying anything that involves acknowledging herself and Elliot as formerly the same person.
*** If I remember correctly, she said that once she got her own memories from Nioi, she still had Elliot's memories but instead of really feeling like hers, they felt more like something she read in a book rather than had experienced, since they were replaced by her real memories. Added to the fact that alternate!Tedd is different than real!Tedd, it's more like she knows all about him and knows that he's a good person, but she's really only known this Tedd for 3 months and is still detached because, as she put it, "the day we met was the worst day of my life".
*** Admittedly, that explanation falls flat when you consider she's only known Nanase and Grace for that long as well.
**** Ellen basically blamed Tedd for everything wrong with her life, particularly involving her creation, and she was upset that he never apologized for the mistakes he made leading up to it. This seems to be heading for resolution with Tedd telling her that if they were mistakes, they were the best mistakes he ever made. (Hm, accidental father anyone?)

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*** ** One would think ''30'' years would overpower that, but chalk it up to RuleOfDrama I guess.
*** ** The "second life" memories shouldn't be included in that total: That was an alternate universe version of Tedd, with his own personality. They may be similar, but "SL-Tedd was a good person who I knew for a decade" does not necessarily guarantee that "EGS-Tedd is a good person". Her memories from Elliot should still be valid, but she's essentially overcompensating for her "Piece that does not fit" issues by denying anything that involves acknowledging herself and Elliot as formerly the same person.
*** ** If I remember correctly, she said that once she got her own memories from Nioi, she still had Elliot's memories but instead of really feeling like hers, they felt more like something she read in a book rather than had experienced, since they were replaced by her real memories. Added to the fact that alternate!Tedd is different than real!Tedd, it's more like she knows all about him and knows that he's a good person, but she's really only known this Tedd for 3 months and is still detached because, as she put it, "the day we met was the worst day of my life".
*** ** Admittedly, that explanation falls flat when you consider she's only known Nanase and Grace for that long as well.
**** ** Ellen basically blamed Tedd for everything wrong with her life, particularly involving her creation, and she was upset that he never apologized for the mistakes he made leading up to it. This seems to be heading for resolution with Tedd telling her that if they were mistakes, they were the best mistakes he ever made. (Hm, accidental father anyone?)



*** Confirmed -- Grace's levitation is her using her telekinesis powers.

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*** ** Confirmed -- Grace's levitation is her using her telekinesis powers.
16th Mar '15 4:39:45 PM AliceMacher
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*** Also, the core cast are teenagers. Hormones flow aplenty during adolescence, and that tends to influence one's emotional responses. There's also the life-and-death situations the cast often find themselves in. A close brush with death, one's own or that of a friend, relative, or significant other, will bring tears unless one is super-stoic.
23rd Jan '15 2:54:45 AM Roo
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** The author really does seem to want to improve on this. In later strips there are several hints that George likes Justin (based on how grouchy he gets when Justin seems to have another romantic interest), and of course Luke and Justin spent a lot of strips (though not very much in-universe time) secretly pining over each other before Justin [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=2014 finally asks Luke out]].
** I'd say Susan has about the same level of romantic development as Justin, i.e. not very much. (And with Justin heading for a date he seems to have her beaten in the romance department.) There's been a couple of times where it seemed like a romance plot was forming for her, including a ShipTease between her and Elliot for a while, but nothing's come of any of it and she's pretty much decided she's not ready for romance anyway.

15th Dec '14 5:16:57 PM Wolfy098
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