History Headscratchers / DragonBallGT

13th May '17 7:19:15 PM RoarkTenjouin
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* In a series full of confusion and nonsense, perhaps the biggest question in GT is how Super Saiyan 4 managed to generate magic clothes. Forget aging Son Gokū back to adulthood, where did his original shirt go, how did the form generate completely new pants, shoes, armbands, and ''obi'', and how did he get his original clothing back when he reverted to his base state (when that crap should have been destroyed by his sudden size increase, never mind the fact that he should be naked, as he was a Giant Monkey only moments before his first transformation into the form). Vegeta isn't exempt, losing his shirt, and gaining new gloves again, despite the fact that he'd become a Giant Monkey just moments before, and thus lost his clothes. Just....how?

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* In a series full of confusion and nonsense, perhaps the biggest question in GT is how Super Saiyan 4 managed to generate magic clothes. Forget aging Son Gokū back to adulthood, where did his original shirt go, how did the form generate completely new pants, shoes, armbands, and ''obi'', and how did he get his original clothing back when he reverted to his base state (when that crap should have been destroyed by his sudden size increase, never mind the fact that he should be naked, as he was a Giant Monkey only moments before his first transformation into the form). Vegeta isn't exempt, losing his shirt, and gaining new gloves again, despite the fact that he'd become a Giant Monkey just moments before, and thus lost his clothes. Just....how?how?
* The original Shenron died when Kami and Piccolo fused, and Dende created a new one. So why do the wishes made to the original Shenron count? Don't tell me they were made off-screen, because they explicitly mention the previous instances where they were used!
20th Apr '17 1:53:12 PM FireBoss
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***That's still not vaild excuse, If plot hole arises in a story you can't just shrug and say it's not canon as a justification for it.
4th Apr '17 12:05:11 AM Alden2
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*** Considering that it wasn't made by the original creator, yeah, it's not canon.

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*** Considering that it wasn't made by the original creator, yeah, it's not canon.
canon and never was.
4th Apr '17 12:04:40 AM Alden2
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*** Considering that it wasn't made by the original creator, yeah, it's not canon.
17th Feb '17 6:59:15 AM FireBoss
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*** You're ignoring the fact that the Black Star Dragon Balls are completely scattered across the universe making any attempts to collect it without any knowledge of them or a radar virtually impossible( the fact that Baby, The luud cult, and Parapara brother knew about them is just a plot hole since it's never explained how they knew). There's also no reason given why they couldn't just destroy the Black Star Dragonballs if they felt he were too dangerous to exist.So this whole BS ball being used by evil again is pretty unlike if not virtually impossible so there was really no point of him dying to prevent it. All things consider it was a completely pointless sacrifice done for the sake of drama.

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*** You're ignoring the fact that the Black Star Dragon Balls are completely scattered across the universe making any attempts to collect it without any knowledge of them or a radar virtually impossible( the fact that Baby, The luud cult, and Parapara brother knew about them is just a plot hole since it's never explained how they knew). There's also no reason given why they couldn't just destroy the Black Star Dragonballs if they felt he were too dangerous to exist.exist like what Zamasu did with the Super dragon balls.So this whole BS ball being used by evil again is pretty unlike if not virtually impossible so there was really no point of him dying to prevent it. All things consider it was a completely pointless sacrifice done for the sake of drama.
16th Feb '17 6:50:25 AM FireBoss
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*** You're Ignoring the fact that the Black Star Dragon Balls are completely scattered across the universe making any attempts to collect it without any knowledge of them or a dragon radar virtually impossible( the fact that Baby, The luud cult, and Parapara brother knew about them is just a plot hole since it's never explained how they knew). There's also no reason given why they couldn't just destroy the Black Star Dragonballs if they felt he were too dangerous to exist.So this whole BS ball being used by evil again is pretty unlike if not virtually impossible SO there was no point of him dying to prevent it.All, thing consider it was a completely pointless sacrifice done for the sake of drama.

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*** You're Ignoring ignoring the fact that the Black Star Dragon Balls are completely scattered across the universe making any attempts to collect it without any knowledge of them or a dragon radar virtually impossible( the fact that Baby, The luud cult, and Parapara brother knew about them is just a plot hole since it's never explained how they knew). There's also no reason given why they couldn't just destroy the Black Star Dragonballs if they felt he were too dangerous to exist.So this whole BS ball being used by evil again is pretty unlike if not virtually impossible SO so there was really no point of him dying to prevent it.All, thing it. All things consider it was a completely pointless sacrifice done for the sake of drama.
16th Feb '17 6:48:18 AM FireBoss
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***You're Ignoring the fact that the Black Star Dragon Balls are completely scattered across the universe making any attempts to collect it without any knowledge of them or a dragon radar virtually impossible( the fact that Baby, The luud cult, and Parapara brother knew about them is just a plot hole since it's never explained how they knew). There's also no reason given why they couldn't just destroy the Black Star Dragonballs if they felt he were too dangerous to exist.So this whole BS ball being used by evil again is pretty unlike if not virtually impossible SO there was no point of him dying to prevent it.All, thing consider it was a completely pointless sacrifice done for the sake of drama.
19th Jan '17 4:05:10 AM Hatari05
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** It's very possible the heroes forgot this after all they did forget it with cell as well, either way this is pointing out another issue that Z literally had to remind the heroes of it's possible they forgot that detail after relying on the Dragon Balls for so long.



Whose to say he did lose it, it's very possible that he can access it while in Super Sayian form as well, old Kai did say he wouldn't need to transform not he couldn't. Gohan's mystic energy is likely still there and a part of his Super Sayian form, there's no reason

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Whose to say he did lose it, it's very possible that he can access it while in Super Sayian form as well, old Kai did say he wouldn't need to transform not he couldn't. Gohan's mystic energy is likely still there and a part of his Super Sayian form, there's no reason



You're amusing actually thinking this whole Goku thing didn't already happen in DBZ guess it's a testament to how stupid most of the DB fandom is. Gotenks was useless the whole build up of his character across a third of the arc amounted to him to being absorbed by Buu and then Goten and Trunks dying without a fight when Earth blew up. Gohan literally spent the whole Buu arc sitting around being powered up, after a cool display he was absorbed by Buu and died when Earth blew up he then did nothing relevant Gohan does nothing relevant for the whole Buu arc. Buu already did the whole only Goku matters you were just too blind to notice it.

The Sayian, Namek and Frieza saga did this as well just because they fought doesn't mean they weren't useless. What did Tien's sacrifice do nothing. What difference did Yamacha make in the Sayian battle nothing. What did Krillin, Gohan and Piccolo accomplish before Goku arrived nothing they were Nappa's punching bag. What did Gohan and Krillin do on Namek nothing, they hid from Vegeta and Frieza before being beaten into a pulp by the Ginyu force. Vegeta, Krilin and Gohan were Frieza's punching bag, Gohan's bursts of rage didn't mean anything. Piccolo's fusion amounted to him being target practice.

They never mattered Goku and Gohan were the only ones who actually mattered then Buu pushed Gohan aside. Vegeta was a punching bag in Z that was his purpose he goes through the exact same arc twice in the Android cell arc, the eighteen incident and the cell incident are the exact same scenario. His rage attack after Trunks was killed useless didn't accomplish anything except hindering Gohan, Vegeta's fight with 19 was the only one that made a difference in that arc. Trunks does nothing after he kills Frieza he gets beaten by the androids, ascends only for Cell to beat him, gets the beaten by Cell juniors then killed. Quit being hypocrites nothing in Z mattered by Buu Goku rendered everyone irrelevant and most of them never were to begin with, their fights were longer but they were still useless. Nothing changed Z and Super have the same problem as GT the fans are just too blind to notice it.



** AssPull people, that's the truth. They made Goku a kid because they thought DBZ was too much of serious fighting and they wanted to go back to the DB days. Then they realized it was a very bad idea, as even the audience began losing respect for Goku like Pan does, so they tried to go back to the DBZ ways. They didn't really think of any other way except to throw in Instant Age Settings and Instant Tailor for [=SSJ4=].
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** AssPull people, that's the truth. They made Goku a kid because they thought DBZ was too much of serious fighting and they wanted to go back to the DB days. Then they realized it was a very bad idea, as even the audience began losing respect for Goku like Pan does, so they tried to go back to the DBZ ways. They didn't really think of any other way except to throw in Instant Age Settings and Instant Tailor for [=SSJ4=].
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19th Jan '17 3:28:45 AM Hatari05
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** Uub is a human and even after merging with Buu still mostly remained human, he was kid Buu turned into a human.


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** This likely takes time to do he has to reach a certain point gather his strength, it's not likely something that happens instantly.


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** Not entirely if the Black Star Dragon Balls were on Earth than possibly but they aren't they're scattered across the universe who knows where and who knows who might find them in that time. As for deactivating them no guardian ever has deactivated the DB before. Guru didn't deactivate the namekian Dragon Balls despite Frieza being after them. There's nothing in any of the DB shows or movies that says or even supports their creator can deactivate them since it's never happened before. So Piccolo dying was the only way to ensure their end it wasn't a stupid sacrifice.


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** This problem can be placed more at the originals writers feet as it was reaching a point where the characters couldn't fight without leveling cities. Super Sayian 3 nearly tore the world apart by just transforming by this logic the next transformation should destroy the world. It was just getting too ridiculous Super has hit this problem hard Goku and Beerus nearly tore apart creation during their battle what's next? It just got too big Super Sayian 4 should've destroyed planet Vegeta by just powering up, Syn powering up should've torn the Earth in half. It's just ridiculous and you can't have anyone fight or power up without sinking a continent. Toning the scale down makes complete sense.


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** It's very possible the heroes forgot this after all they did forget it with cell as well, either way this is pointing out another issue that Z literally had to remind the heroes of it's possible they forgot that detail after relying on the Dragon Balls for so long.


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** Anyone who says GT logic should just be ignored they're clearly biased this exact same scenario happened in Cell, Gohan was weak and helpless Goku urges him and Gohan all of sudden has power again. Goku was battered to the point that he had one arm against King Piccolo and he still found the power for that last attack once he had an opening. Stop being a biased hypocrite.


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Whose to say he did lose it, it's very possible that he can access it while in Super Sayian form as well, old Kai did say he wouldn't need to transform not he couldn't. Gohan's mystic energy is likely still there and a part of his Super Sayian form, there's no reason


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You're amusing actually thinking this whole Goku thing didn't already happen in DBZ guess it's a testament to how stupid most of the DB fandom is. Gotenks was useless the whole build up of his character across a third of the arc amounted to him to being absorbed by Buu and then Goten and Trunks dying without a fight when Earth blew up. Gohan literally spent the whole Buu arc sitting around being powered up, after a cool display he was absorbed by Buu and died when Earth blew up he then did nothing relevant Gohan does nothing relevant for the whole Buu arc. Buu already did the whole only Goku matters you were just too blind to notice it.

The Sayian, Namek and Frieza saga did this as well just because they fought doesn't mean they weren't useless. What did Tien's sacrifice do nothing. What difference did Yamacha make in the Sayian battle nothing. What did Krillin, Gohan and Piccolo accomplish before Goku arrived nothing they were Nappa's punching bag. What did Gohan and Krillin do on Namek nothing, they hid from Vegeta and Frieza before being beaten into a pulp by the Ginyu force. Vegeta, Krilin and Gohan were Frieza's punching bag, Gohan's bursts of rage didn't mean anything. Piccolo's fusion amounted to him being target practice.

They never mattered Goku and Gohan were the only ones who actually mattered then Buu pushed Gohan aside. Vegeta was a punching bag in Z that was his purpose he goes through the exact same arc twice in the Android cell arc, the eighteen incident and the cell incident are the exact same scenario. His rage attack after Trunks was killed useless didn't accomplish anything except hindering Gohan, Vegeta's fight with 19 was the only one that made a difference in that arc. Trunks does nothing after he kills Frieza he gets beaten by the androids, ascends only for Cell to beat him, gets the beaten by Cell juniors then killed. Quit being hypocrites nothing in Z mattered by Buu Goku rendered everyone irrelevant and most of them never were to begin with, their fights were longer but they were still useless. Nothing changed Z and Super have the same problem as GT the fans are just too blind to notice it.


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18th Dec '16 3:34:01 PM Chardust
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** Goku and friends would still need a space ship to travel and collect the balls anyway. the Dragon balls have no power levels or ways to be tracked without a dragon ball radar and goku couldn't just keep teleporting between planets if he couldn't sense anybodies power levels their or has been their before
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