History Headscratchers / DragonBallGT

21st Mar '16 6:38:30 PM qwertyman
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* So Gogeta's goofiness was a part of a ploy to piss off Omega enough to give him the opportunity to get rid of all the negative karma enveloping the Earth. It just that his plan makes no sense. How does Gogeta know about the Karma ball? How he know that he can convert the karma it? You mean there is no other he can remove negative karma without Omega's karma ball? If Gogeta can turn the negative karma in the karma ball into positive just kicking it, then can't he just kill Omega and purify the planet himself? Was this all just to get Gogeta out of the fight?

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* So Gogeta's goofiness was a part of a ploy to piss off Omega enough to give him the opportunity to get rid of all the negative karma enveloping the Earth. It just that his plan makes no sense. How does Gogeta know about the Karma ball? How he know that he can convert the karma it? ball? You mean there is no other way he can remove negative karma without Omega's karma ball? If Gogeta can turn the negative karma in the karma ball into positive just by kicking it, then can't he just kill Omega and purify the planet himself? Was this all just to get Gogeta out of the fight?
21st Mar '16 12:43:31 PM qwertyman
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* Why doesn't Dr Gero interact with Cell in the slightest? Cell is his masterpiece and while not totally loyal, at least has respect for his maker. Wouldn't it make more sense for Gero to upgrade Cell, or at least acknowledge his existence?

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* Why doesn't Dr Gero interact with Cell in the slightest? Cell is his masterpiece and while not totally loyal, at least has respect for his maker. Wouldn't it make more sense for Gero to upgrade Cell, or at least acknowledge his existence?existence?
*So Gogeta's goofiness was a part of a ploy to piss off Omega enough to give him the opportunity to get rid of all the negative karma enveloping the Earth. It just that his plan makes no sense. How does Gogeta know about the Karma ball? How he know that he can convert the karma it? You mean there is no other he can remove negative karma without Omega's karma ball? If Gogeta can turn the negative karma in the karma ball into positive just kicking it, then can't he just kill Omega and purify the planet himself? Was this all just to get Gogeta out of the fight?
*Why does Gogeta have red hair?
12th Mar '16 12:05:36 AM Ramona122003
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*** Where on earth did you get the idea that GT was never canon to begin with? GT was only officially declared non-canon recently upon the release of Battle of the Gods back in 2013. Nearly a decade after GT was release in the U.S and over 15 year after it ended in japan . My point is if what you're saying is true and GT was never meant to be canon from the beginning then why didn't they stated that from the beginning and not wait over 15 years after the series was already over. Not to mention the fact that many people did considered and treated GT as if it was canon up until Battle of the Gods.

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*** Where on earth did you get the idea that GT was never canon to begin with? GT was only officially declared non-canon recently upon the release of Battle of the Gods back in 2013. Nearly a decade after GT was release in the U.S and over 15 year after it ended in japan .Japan . My point is if what you're saying is true and GT was never meant to be canon from the beginning then why didn't they stated that from the beginning and not wait over 15 years after the series was already over. Not to mention the fact that many people did considered and treated GT as if it was canon up until Battle of the Gods.


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*** Actually, Toriyama didn't design Super Saiyan 4. It was design by Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru. What Toriyama did design is kid Goku, Pan, Trunks, and Vegeta with his infamous mustache. He also designed the space ship and Giru, as well as did some concept arts. He even came up with the name Grand Tour. He had nothing to do with the overall story, however.
11th Mar '16 12:50:30 AM Feckpreston
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** To build on an earlier point, GT was practically noncanon from the start: it had no manga adaptation, and Toriyama's only influence was the creation of SSJ4, probably one of the few defendable parts of GT. So, an anime-exclusive continuation could definitely draw from anime filler. Hell, we could probably call GT itself filler at this rate. Joking, obviously, but still.
11th Mar '16 12:49:19 AM Feckpreston
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*** GT was never based on any story or manga made by Toriyama, unlike the rest of DBZ. The only thing from GT made by Toriyama is Super Saiyan 4. GT is practically a filler series, but I digress.
11th Mar '16 12:36:19 AM Feckpreston
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** That doesn't make any sense. Because they're stronger their battles are less intense? So why wasn't that the case when you compare ''Dragon Ball Z'' to dragon ball? By that logic the fight scenes in Dragon ball should be more intense the fights in ''Dragon Ball Z'' (which they are NOT). Seriously when [=SSJ3=] Goku fought Kid Buu the force they unleashed nearly destroy the planet. It caused earthquakes, fissures, massive craters, and it rocked the Kai's planet to its foundation, forcing them to evacuate. But in GT where [=SSJ4=] Goku and [=SSJ4=] Vegeta fought omega Shenron, they barely destroyed a city. Is that because they became stronger?

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** That doesn't make any sense. Because they're stronger their battles are less intense? So why wasn't that the case when you compare ''Dragon Ball Z'' to dragon ball? By that logic the fight scenes in Dragon ball should be more intense the fights in ''Dragon Ball Z'' (which they are NOT). Seriously when [=SSJ3=] Goku fought Kid Buu the force they unleashed nearly destroy the planet. It caused earthquakes, fissures, massive craters, and it rocked the Kai's planet to its foundation, forcing them to evacuate. But in GT where [=SSJ4=] SSJ4 Goku and [=SSJ4=] SSJ4 Vegeta fought omega Shenron, they barely destroyed a city. Is that because they became stronger?



*** '''WOW,THAT COULD NOT BE ANYMORE WRONG'''!!! There so much wrong with what you just said that I almost don't even know where to start.First off when Dende change the earth dragon balls he kept that rule intact to save energy that's why Goku couldn't brought back after he died in the cell game. Second, Yamcha, and Tien were never revived using the earths Dragon Balls. They were revived with Porunga's set in the Frieza Saga (did you even watch DBZ or even TFS parody because even they got this right).So Yamcha and Tien can both '''STILL''' can be revived with earth ones . Third, the Z-figthers use Porunga's set to revive everyone at end of the Buu saga, not the Earth ones. They only used the Earth Dragon Balls to revive everyone Majin Vegeta killed, and to erase everyone's memory of Majin Buu. So yeah Krilin and 17 shouldn't have been brought back to life with Earth Dragon Balls.

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*** '''WOW,THAT COULD NOT BE ANYMORE WRONG'''!!! There so much wrong with what you just said that I almost don't even know where to start.First off when Dende change the earth dragon balls he kept that rule intact to save energy that's why Goku couldn't brought back after he died in the cell game. Second, Yamcha, and Tien were never revived using the earths Dragon Balls. They were revived with Porunga's set in the Frieza Saga (did you even watch DBZ or even TFS parody because even they got this right).So Yamcha and Tien can both '''STILL''' STILL can be revived with earth ones . Third, the Z-figthers use Porunga's set to revive everyone at end of the Buu saga, not the Earth ones. They only used the Earth Dragon Balls to revive everyone Majin Vegeta killed, and to erase everyone's memory of Majin Buu. So yeah Krilin and 17 shouldn't have been brought back to life with Earth Dragon Balls.


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** To build on an earlier point, GT was practically noncanon from the start: it had no manga adaptation, and Toriyama's only influence was the creation of SSJ4, probably one of the few defendable parts of GT. So, an anime-exclusive continuation could definitely draw from anime filler. Hell, we could probably call GT itself filler at this rate. Joking, obviously, but still.
9th Mar '16 5:38:27 PM PlatosAssistant
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** Well, would ''you'' want to be rude to a seven-foot tall, very muscular man with red fur, sickly-yellow eyes and large, spiky black hair that extends down to his waist?
30th Jan '16 2:57:54 AM darksoul4242
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** If getting killed was Dolltaki's intension then why did he seem so scared of dying.

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** If getting killed was Dolltaki's intension intention then why did he seem so scared of dying.



** I can't think of that many examples of a Character reporting back to their Insane Boss(who not only said he'll kill him but tried too already) for reasons that were never given or that completely conflicts their character in fiction. and even this does happen from time to time it's bad writing plan and simple. Characters can changes and grow overtime but they do not (or should not) suddenly act out of character just of the sake of plot convenience , And a good writer should try to explain character's motives or at least make it apparent. Here they failed, If what you are saying is true and that getting killed was truly Dolltaki's intension ( as conflicting to his character as that maybe) then the writers did a terrible job of establishing it. They gave absolutely zero indication that was his intention. That aside, the show give no logically or sensible reason and that probably because there is none. Facing certain death head on is not something a dirty coward would do especially in this case. I mean Myuu already has a lot on his plate, he trying to collect the Black star dragon balls, he's also tracking the sayain and finding a way to kill them, and trying to revive baby. you think he'll really waste his time and his effort sending a group of killers to hunter down and kill a single minion that he no longer has any use for throughout the entire universe. That could take years, and Myuu has way bigger fish fry.

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** I can't think of that many examples of a Character reporting back to their Insane Boss(who not only said he'll kill him but tried too to already) for reasons that were never given or that completely conflicts their character in fiction. and even this does happen from time to time it's bad writing plan and simple. Characters can changes change and grow overtime over time, but they do not (or should not) suddenly act out of character just of the sake of plot convenience , And and a good writer should try to explain character's motives or at least make it apparent. Here they failed, If what you are saying is true and that getting killed was truly Dolltaki's intension ( as conflicting to his character as that maybe) then the writers did a terrible job of establishing it. They gave absolutely zero indication that was his intention. That aside, the show give no logically or sensible reason and that probably because there is none. Facing certain death head on is not something a dirty coward would do especially in this case. I mean Myuu already has a lot on his plate, he trying to collect the Black star dragon balls, he's also tracking the sayain and finding a way to kill them, and trying to revive baby. you think he'll really waste his time and his effort sending a group of killers to hunter down and kill a single minion that he no longer has any use for throughout the entire universe. That could take years, and Myuu has way bigger fish fry.



* In episode 3 where Goku's IT fails and the z fighters end up falling from an insane height why didn't they just fly?I mean this happen twice you think the second time this happen they would at least remember they can fly.

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* In episode 3 where Goku's IT fails and the z fighters end up falling from an insane height why didn't they just fly?I fly? I mean this happen twice you happened twice, so you'd think the second time this happen happens, they would at least remember they can fly.



* In episode 5 Goku,Pan, and Trunks are being hunted down by Don Kee's soldiers, and a good portion of the episode is made up of the z fighters running and hiding from them.This unnecessary since mostly all the guards can't use ki or even fly and are just armed with guns that do nothing to them. Goku, Trunks, and Pan could have easily defeated Don Kee's entire army (Goku could done this all by himself honestly) ,kick Don Kee out of power, and freed those financial slaves. Granted they finally do this 3 episode into the story but they could done all this from the beginning.
* Why does Goku, Pan, and Trunks tried to evade Don Kee's soldiers by jumping from building to building opposed to just flying?

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* In episode 5 Goku,Pan, Goku, Pan, and Trunks are being hunted down by Don Kee's soldiers, and a good portion of the episode is made up of the z Z fighters running and hiding from them.them. This unnecessary since mostly all the guards can't use ki or even fly and are just armed with guns that do nothing to them. Goku, Trunks, and Pan could have easily defeated Don Kee's entire army (Goku could done this all by himself honestly) ,kick honestly), kick Don Kee out of power, and freed those financial slaves. Granted they finally do this 3 episode episodes into the story but they could done all this from the beginning.
* Why does do Goku, Pan, and Trunks tried try to evade Don Kee's soldiers by jumping from building to building opposed to just flying?
30th Jan '16 2:54:38 AM darksoul4242
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* Isn't there any way to destroy the dragonballs without killing their creator? Can't Piccolo just deactivate the black star Dragonballs, or at the very least modify them? How come he just forgot about them like that? In that case, the whole plot in DBZ of getting Dende to be Earth's guardian would be totally unnecessary, wouldn't it?

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* Isn't there any way to destroy the dragonballs Dragonballs without killing their creator? Can't Piccolo just deactivate the black star Black Star Dragonballs, or at the very least modify them? How come he just forgot about them like that? In that case, the whole plot in DBZ of getting Dende to be Earth's guardian would be totally unnecessary, wouldn't it?
30th Jan '16 2:53:07 AM darksoul4242
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** Yes it was demonstrated and flat out stated in the Grand Kai filler that the dead can't die again. The only problem with your point is that is filler! which pretty much negates your whole defense.[[AdaptationInducedPlotHole Fillers in general have a tendency to created plot holes with the main story.]]Which is why they're usually disregarded by fans and the author. You're suggesting that we should total disregard a rule established '''in canon''' (granted we never saw it in action) for a rule shown only in filler and nowhere else( which basically means it never happen). I mean GT was suppose to be canon right?

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** Yes it was demonstrated and flat out stated in the Grand Kai filler that the dead can't die again. The only problem with your point is that is filler! which pretty much negates your whole defense. [[AdaptationInducedPlotHole Fillers in general have a tendency to created plot holes with the main story.]]Which is why they're usually disregarded by fans and the author. You're suggesting that we should total disregard a rule established '''in canon''' (granted we never saw it in action) for a rule shown only in filler and nowhere else( which basically means it never happen). I mean GT was suppose to be canon right?
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