History Headscratchers / DragonBallGT

16th Apr '18 5:04:23 PM twingle93
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** He didn't know about the Black Star Dragon Balls. He just showed up at the Look Out looking for the regular Dragon Balls and assumed the Black Star ones were the real ones.
11th Apr '18 7:45:12 PM darksoul4242
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** It was power based. He wasn't strong enough as a child to do it properly. He actually does IT at one point and it works.....but craps out after a few yards. His child body just couldn't properly manage the techniques he used as an adult. Same reason SS3 gave out after a few seconds. SS4 gave him his adult body back, and let him regulate his power properly.

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** It was power based. He wasn't strong enough as a child to do it properly. He actually does IT at one point and it works.....but craps out after a few yards. His child body just couldn't properly manage the techniques he used as an adult. Same reason SS3 [=SS3=] gave out after a few seconds. SS4 [=SS4=] gave him his adult body back, and let him regulate his power properly.
27th Mar '18 6:19:21 PM twingle93
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**** Maybe Baby implanted the odd command "And if you ever encounter a Dragon Ball, surgically implant it in your head and erase your memory of it."



** The Black Star Dragon Balls are the most powerful. It would suit Baby's ego to use only the most powerful ones to make his wish upon. Or he believed that Earth dragon balls weren't powerful enough to restore a distant planet that was destroyed decades ago. He may have been right, there could be a time limit on destroyed planets for all we know.

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** The Black Star Dragon Balls are the most powerful. It would suit Baby's ego to use only the most powerful ones to make his wish upon. Or he believed that Earth dragon balls weren't powerful enough to restore a distant planet that was destroyed decades ago. He may have been right, there could be a time limit on destroyed planets for all we know. Also if Baby made a wish using the Earth Dragon Balls, the shadow dragons would arrive a season early, and the heroes and Baby would both have to deal with them.



*** Baby's tripping on power throughout his entire saga. He probably figured that by the time the Earth explodes, he'd be well on his way to move out into the larger galaxy to conquer it. He'd either move his planet, or have ships constructed to escape the aftereffects of Earth's destruction. For all we know Baby would call the Earth Dragon Balls 'trash', and only the more powerful Black Star ones are worthy of him making wishes upon.

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*** Baby's tripping on power throughout his entire saga. He probably figured that by the time the Earth explodes, he'd be well on his way to move out into the larger galaxy to conquer it. He'd either move his planet, or have ships constructed to escape the aftereffects of Earth's destruction. For all we know Baby would call the Earth Dragon Balls 'trash', and only the more powerful Black Star ones are worthy of him making wishes upon. Of course, if he did make a wish using the Earth Dragon Balls, it would summmon the Shadow Dragons early and Baby would have to ally himself with the heroes to stop them.



** Dende used the original dragon as a template instead of starting from scratch. In doing so he essentially just took the old Dragon Balls and made improvements to them. They are the same set, just under new management.

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** Dende used the original dragon as a template instead of starting from scratch. In doing so he essentially just took the old Dragon Balls and made improvements to them. They are the same set, just under new management.management.
* Why wasn't Vegeta going with them on the hunt for the Black Star Dragon Balls? He's the second most powerful being on Earth, and he's also the most knowledgeable about space travel. I imagine that if he went along, things would be concluded a lot quicker due to Vegeta's willingness to kill opponents: Zoonama, the giant, Don Kee, Ledgic, the Parapara Brothers, Cardinal Mutchie Mutchie, Dolltaki would all meet their ends by getting kai blasted by Vegeta. Baby waking up to encounter Vegeta would have been interesting to see, as well as Vegeta lecturing Pan on her Sayian heritage and telling her stories about it. There was a missed opportunity for storytelling there.
27th Mar '18 12:46:16 PM twingle93
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** Maybe King Kai meant that the 10x Earth's gravity existed on the Sayian's original home-world, not the Planet Vegeta that they came to inhabit, which just has normal gravity. That makes sense, because the Tuffles in flashbacks appear to be similar to normal humans.



*** SSJ3 Gotenks would have been their best shot particularly after both Vegeta and Goku are completely defeated. He would have lasted at least a minute or two, if only as Omega's punching bag, buying them enough time to put a plan together. For fans that hate Gotenks and his antics it would have been satisfying to watch Omega beat the stuffing out of him. A better explanation is that the animators didn't want to animate another character that late in the saga.



*** Vegeta's a hypocrite. He probably derided the fusion in public, but secretly acquired mastery of it, maybe from Trunks, just in case he would need its power in the future. Vegeta has always desired power and is capable of occasionally swallowing his ego to acquire it.



*** Baby's tripping on power throughout his entire saga. He probably figured that by the time the Earth explodes, he'd be well on his way to move out into the larger galaxy to conquer it. He'd either move his planet, or have ships constructed to escape the aftereffects of Earth's destruction. For all we know Baby would call the Earth Dragon Balls 'trash', and only the more powerful Black Star ones are worthy of his wishes.

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*** Baby's tripping on power throughout his entire saga. He probably figured that by the time the Earth explodes, he'd be well on his way to move out into the larger galaxy to conquer it. He'd either move his planet, or have ships constructed to escape the aftereffects of Earth's destruction. For all we know Baby would call the Earth Dragon Balls 'trash', and only the more powerful Black Star ones are worthy of his wishes.him making wishes upon.
27th Mar '18 12:31:34 PM twingle93
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** The Black Star Dragon Balls are the most powerful. It would suit Baby's ego to use only the most powerful ones to make his wish upon. Or he believed that Earth dragon balls weren't powerful enough to restore a distant planet that was destroyed decades ago. He may have been right, there could be a time limit on destroyed planets for all we know.



*** Baby's tripping on power throughout his entire saga. He probably figured that by the time the Earth explodes, he'd be well on his way to move out into the larger galaxy to conquer it. He'd either move his planet, or have ships constructed to escape the aftereffects of Earth's destruction. For all we know Baby would call the Earth Dragon Balls 'trash', and only the more powerful Black Star ones are worthy of his wishes.



** They were probably just looking for Dragon Balls period. They just happened to find Black Star ones, when they were probably looking for Namekian ones, but luckily didn't find it.



* How is it that Baby vegeta and regular vegeta were able to transform when they are exposed to Blutz Wave when Vegeta don't have tails. This is necessary for a transformation at least according to Dragon ball, and Dragon ball Z. So what was the point of even pulling out Goku's tail when Saiyains can apparently transform to great apes and [=SSJ4=] even without them.

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* How is it that Baby vegeta and regular vegeta Vegeta were able to transform when they are exposed to Blutz Wave when Vegeta don't have tails. This is necessary for a transformation at least according to Dragon ball, and Dragon ball Z. So what was the point of even pulling out Goku's tail when Saiyains can apparently transform to great apes and [=SSJ4=] even without them.



*** Maybe the Black Star Dragon balls were projected into the past when they scattered?



** Presumably it has replaced Earth's moon.



** No. He's completely bent on revenge against the sayians and would resurrect the Tuffle race simply to build an empire upon their backs. He might have been programmed to enact justice for the destruction of the Tuffles and restore them, but it's clear that his evil has corrupted these understandable goals, and now Baby sees himself as a king and would essentially become another intergalactic villain with the same mindset as King Vegeta and Freeza.



** Red seems to the standard color for Super Sayian 4s.



** Being rewarded for all his good deeds?



* The original Shenron died when Kami and Piccolo fused, and Dende created a new one. So why do the wishes made to the original Shenron count? Don't tell me they were made off-screen, because they explicitly mention the previous instances where they were used!

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** Piccolo and a few other fighters we've seen on the show have a technique called Magic Materialization, which enables them to create objects from kai. Either Goku at some point, mastered the same technique, or Super Saiyan 4 is just so powerful that he's unconsciously using kai to create the clothes from nothing.
* The original Shenron died when Kami and Piccolo fused, and Dende created a new one. So why do the wishes made to the original Shenron count? Don't tell me they were made off-screen, because they explicitly mention the previous instances where they were used!used!
** Dende used the original dragon as a template instead of starting from scratch. In doing so he essentially just took the old Dragon Balls and made improvements to them. They are the same set, just under new management.
12th Feb '18 10:49:57 PM RoarkTenjouin
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**** Okay then, why not just have Goku teach 7 members of the gang Instant Transmission and then use Shenron to wish said seven to the locations of the Black Star Dragon Balls? ''That'' would surely be within Shenron's abilities, and it would take less than a month tops.



*** It should've also happened to Vegeta and Gohan, for that matter.



** There absolutely nothing before GT the even suggest that IT requires anymore power than turning Super Saiyan, flying, sensing ki and firing powerful ki blasts, all those abilities he also didn't have as a child either, and yet all those powers where left (for the most part) well intact. Granted IT requires more concentration since the move requires a person to be good at sensing ki. But according what fans say, Goku's ki sensing ability has improved greatly (even as a child) to the point where he can now sense robot's energy which before was impossible before. so that's really no excuse.

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** There There's absolutely nothing before GT the even suggest that IT requires anymore power than turning Super Saiyan, flying, sensing ki and firing powerful ki blasts, all those abilities he also didn't have as a child either, and yet all those powers where left (for the most part) well intact. Granted IT requires more concentration since the move requires a person to be good at sensing ki. But according what fans say, Goku's ki sensing ability has improved greatly (even as a child) to the point where he can now sense robot's energy which before was impossible before. so that's really no excuse.



** Goku and friends would still need a space ship to travel and collect the balls anyway. the Dragon balls have no power levels or ways to be tracked without a dragon ball radar and goku couldn't just keep teleporting between planets if he couldn't sense anybodies power levels their or has been their before

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** Goku and friends would still need a space ship to travel and collect the balls anyway. the The Dragon balls have no power levels or ways to be tracked without a dragon ball radar and goku Goku couldn't just keep teleporting between planets if he couldn't sense anybodies power levels their or has been their before
4th Dec '17 2:23:44 PM KBABZ
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*** Shenron is omnipotent because, for example, he know what Oolong means by "the Saiyans" (Vegeta and Nappa), and he later knows where Namek is and what constitutes a Namekian; he had no trouble reviving the populace millions of light years away back in Z. That said, a sufficient excuse for GT would be to say that even an individual Black Star Ball far exceeds his power to move, since that's an established limitation and the Black Star Balls are the normal Dragon Balls UpToEleven. Same of course would apply to Porunga.
4th Dec '17 1:57:00 PM RoarkTenjouin
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*** That doesn't explain why they didn't at least ''try''. While we can excuse them for not trying to use the regular Dragon Balls to wish the Namekian balls back (since in all circumstances where they needed the Namekian balls, they were able to gather them on their own), they still could've at least ''tried''. For that matter, why not ask the Namekians to try with the Namekian Dragon Balls?
17th Nov '17 1:16:40 PM RoarkTenjouin
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**** In fact, that's what happens in ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' - and it's ''because'' Android 17 got stronger that Goku went to recruit him when the team for Universe 7 needed more members instead of having Baba revive Frieza, [[spoiler: at least, until Buu fell asleep and they needed someone to replace him]].
20th Sep '17 5:13:34 PM PandaXclone2
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** Shenron isn't omnipotent when it comes to making wishes. In fact, a similar wish was asked of him in Super (Tell us the location of the Super Dragon Balls) and he promptly failed to grant it, exclaiming that "space is so very vast! I'm afraid my powers are not so almighty that I can pick but one object in its boundless expanse..."

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** Shenron isn't omnipotent when it comes to making wishes. In fact, a similar wish was asked of him in Super (Tell us the location of the Super Dragon Balls) and he promptly failed to grant it, exclaiming in the dub that "space is so very vast! I'm afraid my powers are not so almighty that I can pick but one object in its boundless expanse..."
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