History Headscratchers / DragonBallGT

30th Jan '16 2:57:54 AM darksoul4242
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** If getting killed was Dolltaki's intension then why did he seem so scared of dying.
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** If getting killed was Dolltaki's intension intention then why did he seem so scared of dying.

** I can't think of that many examples of a Character reporting back to their Insane Boss(who not only said he'll kill him but tried too already) for reasons that were never given or that completely conflicts their character in fiction. and even this does happen from time to time it's bad writing plan and simple. Characters can changes and grow overtime but they do not (or should not) suddenly act out of character just of the sake of plot convenience , And a good writer should try to explain character's motives or at least make it apparent. Here they failed, If what you are saying is true and that getting killed was truly Dolltaki's intension ( as conflicting to his character as that maybe) then the writers did a terrible job of establishing it. They gave absolutely zero indication that was his intention. That aside, the show give no logically or sensible reason and that probably because there is none. Facing certain death head on is not something a dirty coward would do especially in this case. I mean Myuu already has a lot on his plate, he trying to collect the Black star dragon balls, he's also tracking the sayain and finding a way to kill them, and trying to revive baby. you think he'll really waste his time and his effort sending a group of killers to hunter down and kill a single minion that he no longer has any use for throughout the entire universe. That could take years, and Myuu has way bigger fish fry.
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** I can't think of that many examples of a Character reporting back to their Insane Boss(who not only said he'll kill him but tried too to already) for reasons that were never given or that completely conflicts their character in fiction. and even this does happen from time to time it's bad writing plan and simple. Characters can changes change and grow overtime over time, but they do not (or should not) suddenly act out of character just of the sake of plot convenience , And and a good writer should try to explain character's motives or at least make it apparent. Here they failed, If what you are saying is true and that getting killed was truly Dolltaki's intension ( as conflicting to his character as that maybe) then the writers did a terrible job of establishing it. They gave absolutely zero indication that was his intention. That aside, the show give no logically or sensible reason and that probably because there is none. Facing certain death head on is not something a dirty coward would do especially in this case. I mean Myuu already has a lot on his plate, he trying to collect the Black star dragon balls, he's also tracking the sayain and finding a way to kill them, and trying to revive baby. you think he'll really waste his time and his effort sending a group of killers to hunter down and kill a single minion that he no longer has any use for throughout the entire universe. That could take years, and Myuu has way bigger fish fry.

* In episode 3 where Goku's IT fails and the z fighters end up falling from an insane height why didn't they just fly?I mean this happen twice you think the second time this happen they would at least remember they can fly.
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* In episode 3 where Goku's IT fails and the z fighters end up falling from an insane height why didn't they just fly?I fly? I mean this happen twice you happened twice, so you'd think the second time this happen happens, they would at least remember they can fly.

* In episode 5 Goku,Pan, and Trunks are being hunted down by Don Kee's soldiers, and a good portion of the episode is made up of the z fighters running and hiding from them.This unnecessary since mostly all the guards can't use ki or even fly and are just armed with guns that do nothing to them. Goku, Trunks, and Pan could have easily defeated Don Kee's entire army (Goku could done this all by himself honestly) ,kick Don Kee out of power, and freed those financial slaves. Granted they finally do this 3 episode into the story but they could done all this from the beginning. * Why does Goku, Pan, and Trunks tried to evade Don Kee's soldiers by jumping from building to building opposed to just flying?
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* In episode 5 Goku,Pan, Goku, Pan, and Trunks are being hunted down by Don Kee's soldiers, and a good portion of the episode is made up of the z Z fighters running and hiding from them.them. This unnecessary since mostly all the guards can't use ki or even fly and are just armed with guns that do nothing to them. Goku, Trunks, and Pan could have easily defeated Don Kee's entire army (Goku could done this all by himself honestly) ,kick honestly), kick Don Kee out of power, and freed those financial slaves. Granted they finally do this 3 episode episodes into the story but they could done all this from the beginning. * Why does do Goku, Pan, and Trunks tried try to evade Don Kee's soldiers by jumping from building to building opposed to just flying?
30th Jan '16 2:54:38 AM darksoul4242
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* Isn't there any way to destroy the dragonballs without killing their creator? Can't Piccolo just deactivate the black star Dragonballs, or at the very least modify them? How come he just forgot about them like that? In that case, the whole plot in DBZ of getting Dende to be Earth's guardian would be totally unnecessary, wouldn't it?
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* Isn't there any way to destroy the dragonballs Dragonballs without killing their creator? Can't Piccolo just deactivate the black star Black Star Dragonballs, or at the very least modify them? How come he just forgot about them like that? In that case, the whole plot in DBZ of getting Dende to be Earth's guardian would be totally unnecessary, wouldn't it?
30th Jan '16 2:53:07 AM darksoul4242
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** Yes it was demonstrated and flat out stated in the Grand Kai filler that the dead can't die again. The only problem with your point is that is filler! which pretty much negates your whole defense.[[AdaptationInducedPlotHole Fillers in general have a tendency to created plot holes with the main story.]]Which is why they're usually disregarded by fans and the author. You're suggesting that we should total disregard a rule established '''in canon''' (granted we never saw it in action) for a rule shown only in filler and nowhere else( which basically means it never happen). I mean GT was suppose to be canon right?
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** Yes it was demonstrated and flat out stated in the Grand Kai filler that the dead can't die again. The only problem with your point is that is filler! which pretty much negates your whole defense. [[AdaptationInducedPlotHole Fillers in general have a tendency to created plot holes with the main story.]]Which is why they're usually disregarded by fans and the author. You're suggesting that we should total disregard a rule established '''in canon''' (granted we never saw it in action) for a rule shown only in filler and nowhere else( which basically means it never happen). I mean GT was suppose to be canon right?
30th Jan '16 2:52:00 AM darksoul4242
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** Because Pilaf and his gang aren't evil, the fact that they are also alive in the Battle of Gods film prove that. The only villains that wouldn't be revive were those who were pure evil and the Pilaf gang don't fall in that group.The Pilaf. Hell, the Dragon revived guys like Spike, the Devilman and Giran. Really, the only villain that was still alive when Buu killed everyone on earth and likely wasn't revived would be Mercenary Tao, because he never changed.
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** Because Pilaf and his gang aren't evil, the fact that they are also alive in the Battle of Gods film prove that. The only villains that wouldn't be revive revived were those who were pure evil and the Pilaf gang don't fall in that group.The Pilaf. Hell, the Dragon revived guys like Spike, the Devilman and Giran. Really, the only villain that was still alive when Buu killed everyone on earth and likely wasn't revived would be Mercenary Tao, because he never changed.

*** Plus, GT explicity states that the dragonballs had been used 7 times. Pilaf's gang using them makes it at least 8 and Goku summoning Shenlong to learn about the Super Saiyan God is one more. With Frieza's revival, it's now 10.
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*** Plus, GT explicity states that the dragonballs Dragonballs had been used 7 times. Pilaf's gang using them makes it at least 8 and Goku summoning Shenlong to learn about the Super Saiyan God is one more. With Frieza's revival, it's now 10.

** He also couldn't fly, turn Super Saiyan, shoot out ki blasts, and sense energy as a child but yet he kept those abilities. it actually pretty inconsistent,and it's clearly just for the sake of plot convenience to justifying the "Grand Tour" they couldn't have Goku simply teleporting to each planet with the dragonballs and gathering them all up with in a week or so. If they did there would be no "Grand Tour" and the series would be over in less than 10 episode. Admittedly it is bad writing. ** It was power based. He wasn't strong enough as a child to do it properly. He actually does IT at one point and it works.....but craps out after a few yards. His child body just couldn't properly manage the techniques he used as an adult. Same reason SS3 gave out after a few seconds. SS4 gave him his adult body back, and let him regular his power properly. ** There absolutely nothing before GT the even suggest that IT requires anymore power than turning super sayain, flying, sensing ki and firing powerful ki blasts, all those ability he also didn't has as a child too and yet all those powers where left (for the most part )well intact. Granted IT requires more concentration since the move require a person to be good at sensing ki. but according what fans say Goku ki sensing ability has improve greatly (even as a child) to the point where he can now sense robot's energy which before was impossible before. so that's really no excuse.
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** He also couldn't fly, turn Super Saiyan, shoot out ki blasts, and sense energy as a child but yet he kept those abilities. it It's actually pretty inconsistent,and inconsistent, and it's clearly just for the sake of plot convenience to justifying convenience. To justify the "Grand Tour" Tour", they couldn't have Goku simply teleporting to each planet with the dragonballs Dragonballs and gathering them all up with in a week or so. If they did there would be no "Grand Tour" and the series would be over in less than 10 episode. Admittedly it is bad writing. ** It was power based. He wasn't strong enough as a child to do it properly. He actually does IT at one point and it works.....but craps out after a few yards. His child body just couldn't properly manage the techniques he used as an adult. Same reason SS3 gave out after a few seconds. SS4 gave him his adult body back, and let him regular regulate his power properly. ** There absolutely nothing before GT the even suggest that IT requires anymore power than turning super sayain, Super Saiyan, flying, sensing ki and firing powerful ki blasts, all those ability abilities he also didn't has have as a child too either, and yet all those powers where left (for the most part )well part) well intact. Granted IT requires more concentration since the move require requires a person to be good at sensing ki. but But according what fans say Goku say, Goku's ki sensing ability has improve improved greatly (even as a child) to the point where he can now sense robot's energy which before was impossible before. so that's really no excuse.
28th Jan '16 8:19:12 AM qwertyman
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*** But don't just raises the question why wasn't Baby in hell?
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*** But don't that just raises the question why wasn't Baby in hell?
28th Jan '16 8:13:49 AM qwertyman
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** Was it ever confirmed that machines don't have souls? I thought Android 16 stayed dead because they couldn't wish back someone who was never alive, not that he was souless.
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** Was it ever confirmed that machines don't have souls? I thought Android 16 stayed dead because they couldn't wish back someone who was never alive, not that he was souless.soulless. ***But don't just raises the question why wasn't Baby in hell?
14th Jan '16 4:35:48 PM Ramona122003
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*** Goku lied twice in the same saga about his power. He tells everyone that he couldn't beat Buu because he was only even with Vegeta. After revealing Super Saiyan 3, Piccolo asked him point-blank could he had beating Buu if he went all out. Goku tells me no. He didn't say he could beat Fat Buu until the very end of the saga, just before he fought Kid Buu. When Goku was saying he couldn't beat Super Buu, everyone, audience included, was still under the impression that Fat Buu was beyond him. At best, Goku's word is suspect in the Buu Saga.
14th Jan '16 4:34:29 PM Ramona122003
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*** Goku lied twice in the same saga about his power. He tells everyone that he couldn't beat Buu because he was only even with Vegeta. After revealing Super Saiyan 3, Piccolo asked him point-blank could he had beating Buu if he went all out. Goku tells me no. He didn't say he could beat Fat Buu until the very end of the saga, just before he fought Kid Buu. When Goku was saying he couldn't beat Super Buu, everyone, audience included, was still under the impression that Fat Buu was beyond him. At best, Goku's word is suspect in the Buu Saga.
14th Jan '16 4:25:29 PM Ramona122003
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** They wanted to show Goku's overall growth and that he's ludicrously powerful even without Super Saiyan. This isn't silly since Toriyama did the same thing in ''Resurration 'F''' where base form Goku is ''way'' stronger than he ever was even as a Super Saiyan 3. If anything, it makes ''GT'' base form Goku look mild in comparison.
1st Jan '16 10:55:57 PM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
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** [[ButtMonkey He's Yamcha.]]

** Maybe they pulled [[Anime/{{ResurrectionOfF}} a Golden Freeza]] and trained their ass off so that something like Freeza or Buu doesn't happen again. The android villains do make more sense, considering how a mere human MadScientist was able to make the Androids and Cell.

** Was it ever confirmed that machines don't have souls? I thought Android 16 stayed dead because they couldn't wish back someone who was never alive, not that he was souless.

** I'm not sure about the REAL reasons Goku was turned back into a child by the script writers. Perhaps in an attempt to bring back fans of the original Dragon Ball series? The problem is, what Goku did at 14 years old and could be considered funny (such as punch 13 year-old Chichi when she gets romantic with him), is NOT funny when he is supposed to be a grandfather. MAJOR fail in my opinion. And yes, there were plenty of times when he could have asked for his adult size back.
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** I'm not sure about the REAL reasons Goku was turned back into a child by the script writers. Perhaps in an attempt to bring back fans of the original Dragon Ball series? The problem is, what Goku did at 14 years old and could be considered funny (such as punch 13 year-old Chichi when she gets romantic with him), is NOT funny when he is supposed to be a grandfather. MAJOR fail in my opinion. And yes, there were plenty of times when he could have asked for his adult size back.back. * Going meta, why did the creators of GT make Goku's base so stupidly powerful? It's as strong as Buu, making Goku a ludicrous 400x stronger in just 15 years. If they wanted to show how much of a Badass Goku got, they could've done the same effect with him being in his regular Super Saiyan form(which is a more realistic 8 times power increase). * Why doesn't Dr Gero interact with Cell in the slightest? Cell is his masterpiece and while not totally loyal, at least has respect for his maker. Wouldn't it make more sense for Gero to upgrade Cell, or at least acknowledge his existence?
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