History Headscratchers / DominicDeegan

* Siggy. He beats the crap out of the corrupt knights in that one arc, delivers a speech about how justice applies equally to everyone and not FIVE PANELS LATER lets a necromantic golem made by a guy who crucified him to a wall go because the Deegans vouch for him. WTF.
** But Quilt hadn't done anything. What justice is there in persecuting someone for what their "parent" did. What should really bug you is that Siggy himself murdered an innocent family of Orcs and is delivering a speech about justice.
** For the sake of argument, it's not comparable to persecuting someone for what their parent did so much as it is to say, investigating a robot built by a known murderer. Quilt was a construction of Jacob, not his son.
** Hypocrisy is pretty much Siggy's defining character trait. The only way in which that was out of character was that it ''helped'' the Deegans for a change.
*** Really, though, other than racism and violence hypocrisy, he's a pretty nice guy. (Barring recent events.) It doesn't make the least bit of sense that he would take the advice of the (admittedly estranged)family of a guy who stuck him to a wall about one of said guy's creations. And even so, I think investigating anything jacob did would be wiser than assuming it's harmless because he abandoned it.
**** ''Wiser''? Siggy? ''Seriously?'' Siggy's NOT WISE. He's impulsive, self-righteous, and makes snap judgements. He let Quilt go because he ''just felt like letting Quilt go''.
***** Was I the only one who thought the characters' consternation and shock to discover that Sigfried went to Hell was bizarre? Look, folks, the guy was an asshole, full stop.

* What's with the myriad inappropriate ass shots?
** {{Main/Fan Disservice}}.
* Why doesn't Spark's basic biology resemble a real cat?
** The cat talks.
** Better question: Why doesn't anybody's basic biology resemble a real person?
*** Because it's a ''comic strip''. You might as well ask why [[Main/PennyArcade Gabe]] is more pear-shaped than human-shaped.
*** Penny Arcade is heavily stylized, and is purposely cartoony. Things like in Dominic Deegan come off as more of a failing attempt at animesque and is rather awkward.

* Did Mookie really think no one would notice that he stole the [[http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2007-12-21 scene]] where [[spoiler: Dominic proposes to Luna]] from Scrubs?
** Dude, have you never heard of the terms "shout out" or "homage"? Does it have to be that he "stole" it?
*** In that case, why did Mookie allow such an important, plot-centric scene to be so completely taken over by a "shout out"?
*** Shout-outs and homages should be recognized as such, but I don't recall seeing any such claim in the author comments the day that strip came out.
**** What? I'd bet that well over half of the examples on the Shout-outs page were never confirmed as such by anyone.
**** Point, but I guess these things range from "too obviously a shout out to be considered anything but" to "plagiarism" and for many people, this is falling too close to the latter, since the extent of it is basically a single line ripped from Scrubs (with none of the hallmarks of a shout-out, such as an otherwise out of context reference- i.e. if Dominic or Luna had made some comment about doctors or something- or a humorous situation.)
*** There ''are'' no "hallmarks of a shout-out". The shout-out ''is'' the reference, and the vast majority of {{Shout Out}}s aren't followed by something else just to [[DontExplainTheJoke make sure you get it]].
*** This troper was pretty sure it was ripping off scrubs too. He gives no indication whatsoever that this was supposed to be a reference to anything. Maybe someone's just trying to be a little too generous for Mookie so they're trying to let his lack of creativity for that vastly important moment in the story slide?
* SuperGreg. Just... fuckin' SuperGreg.
** That just ''bugs'' you? Not easily riled, are you?
** What's wrong with SuperGreg?
** Jesus, what's right with SuperGreg?
** Possibly nothing. But what's wrong with SuperGreg?
** SuperGreg is hilariously lame. It's a ball of pure, undiluted awesome that would be unpleasantly MartyStu-ish (once he learned to [[spoiler: quit leaving the white fire on all the time]], anyway) if it wasn't wrapped in such a goofy... wrapper. On the other hand, [[{{Stripperiffic}} SuperDom]]- ...*{{facepalm}}* [[LateToThePunchline Never mind]].

* Why do people confuse this page with the WMG page?
** It's more fun that way! Besides, when dealing with something so [[Main/DadaComics lacking in basic cause and effect]] as DominicDeegan, WildMassGuessing isn't necessarily less accurate than straight, ordinary answers.
* {{Two words}}: Oracle, hunter.
* When is this page going to be more than people [[Main/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike Griping about a webcomic they apparently don't like]]?
** If the people who created this didn't want people to talk about things that bug them, they shouldn't have called it JustBugsMe.
*** [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks Because we used to like it.]]
** If they really ''didn't'' like the comic, they just wouldn't read it. All the detailed knowledge of plotlines and characters displayed on this page says they do.
*** Seriously, I have not seen a single other JustBugsMe page that has had this level of vitriol lobbed at the subject. Could you at least try to maintain even a veneer of civility?
**** Really? I've barely glanced at the other JBM pages and seen plenty on a similar or worse level.
**** Why...? Its more fun snarking it to pieces!
**** The JustifyingEdit to the earlier remark about Illusion Magic was rather mean-spirited, and not just to Dominic/Mookie. It does still amaze me the level of [[{{Hatedom}} Vitriol]] directed at DominicDeegan. It's a {{Webcomic}}, it's not like you're [[{{Deconstruction}} Deconstructing]] Shakespeare.
*** The haters enjoy their hate.
** Because some people just like to bitch. If this comic ceased to exist, they'd find something else to hate and complain about.
*** We'd try but fail actually, few things are more fun to bitch about than Dominic Deegan.
** Because SnarkBait is the best hobby.
** Because it falls on a strange three-way fault between {{SoBadItsGood}}, {{SoBadItsHorrible}} and {{BileFascination}}. This Troper found out about it from [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife this wiki]] and began an unrepentant {{ArchiveBinge}}. The first strips were good: main character with superpowers actually uses them to make a living, something that doesn't show up much in generic fantasy. Given how much he hated his customers, the strip could've turned into {{OfficeSpace}} by way of [[DungeonsAndDragons D&D.]] Then {{CerebusSyndrome}} set in, and the next thing you know it's all [[StrawmanPolitical strawmen political]] and [[BigDamnHeroes saving the world]], accomplished through some of [[PowerCreepPowerSeep the most]] [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands unconvincing methods]] [[StrongAsTheyNeedToBe I've ever seen.]] The worst part is, it stopped being funny. {{AnsemRetort}} proved that yes, you CAN make beating a cripple with his own walking stick funny, but it doesn't mesh well [[SeriousBusiness with]] [[WriterOnBoard soapboxing.]]
*** Pretty much this.

* The StrawmanPolitical example on the main page. [[Film/ThePrincessBride I do not think it means what they think it means]]. Granted I could see room for complaint about the flashback of Siggy lynching that Orc family as an AssPull to kick Siggy past the MoralEventHorizon, but to call it an example of a StrawmanPolitical is basically saying, "You know, people who think people of different races and cultures are a lesser grade of people ain't so bad."
** All right. People who think people of different races and cultures are a lesser grade of people ain't so bad. That doesn't make them any less ill-informed, racist, and dangerous, but it does mean that a good majority of them don't lynch children for fun. Thinking ''all racists'' are lets people who think that they're ''very'' progressive write idiocy like [[http://dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2009-02-13 this]]. Siggy can neither argue his side, even for the slightest approximation of effectiveness, and is placed at the far most extreme position on the matter possible.
*** Which makes it an AssPull or even CharacterDerailment, but not a StrawmanPolitical. For it to be a StrawmanPolitical the original position has to have some conceivable merit but is being [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] to make the position appear meritless. Calling the wannabe Chthulu eye-beast 'Snuggles McHuggingtion' is just silly, but making an argument that kinda-sorta back-door legitimizes the Ku Klux Klan and Nazism? [[DudeNotFunny Dude, not funny]].
**** Agreed with poster directly above me. Not to sound like a school special, but thinking that others are of lesser grade based on religion and race has been noted as a bad thing. You don't have to be a child lyncher to be a bad person. Nonetheless, the history of his prejudice shows one of small-minded bigotry. It's one thing if he has been wronged by orcs in the past (and would have made an interesting story), but the backstory of his racism is "orcs are lesser than me". That is a negative, and when your as violent and impulsive as he, it doesn't bode well on him. Being blindly prejudice is one thing. Being and out &out racist is something else, and, sorry to say, you won't find much sympathy for them. If you want to feel that rasists are decent people, then you must not be part of that hated race.
**** Re-reading the arguments calling this a StawmanPolitical, are you arguing that racism is at all "progressive"? Can anyone explain that? Care to share some examples of "progressive" racism? You are right that being a racist doesn't automatically make you a sociopath, and I will agree that it was handled clumsily this comic. But Progressive? The above (above) poster is right, it seems you are excusing KKK & Nazism to an extent. Racism is a negative, and while we all harbor our own little prejudices, it does not make it right to act upon them. So yes, a racist is bad. The president could do great things for this country, he won't be called into office (if he isn't impeached) if he is a racist, as he represents this ocuntry.
* The casual racism. Dressing up as a racial minority for Halloween isn't ''that'' bad -- people used to do cowboys and [[strike:Indians]] [[strike:Native Americans]] Indians for Halloween without meaning or presenting any monstrous intent from the cowboy or Indian perspective. "Orcs are not a subtle people", the creepy "claiming" ritual, and dozen other things.
** Not quite sure what you mean about a minority Halloween costume, but the other things? Acknowledging cultural particulars isn't racism. Donovan's not saying Orcs are too stupid for subtlety, he's saying they tend towards forthrightness.
*** Probably Luna gets away with it because her best friend is an Orc, and she has a little bit of the Deeganverse equivalent of NWordPrivileges; plus, hey, she's already got the tusks. If you think of it that way, it skips past MoralDissonance and right into RefugeInAudacity.
*** But there's a difference between acknowledging cultural particulars and making blanket assumptions about a group based on the group's race. Just because it's a favorable stereotype doesn't make it any less of one -- and, given what we've seen elsewhere, probably an inaccurate one. We don't consider it acceptable in the real world to say "Oh, he's African-American, so obviously he knows about basketball and rap." It's statistically true that Asian-Americans have lower odds of either committing or being the victim of violent crime, while African-Americans are more likely to be in either category, but saying so as a policy matter is racist and inaccurate when you can point out a rather more apt comparison in affluence.
**** The phenotypic differences between human races are extremely minor, and to make blanket statements about their behaviour is as such inaccurate. The phenotypic differences between the orcs and humans in the strip, although both are probably of the same species (Melna refers to the possibility of Luna having orc ancestry when they meet) are much greater. There's no reason to suppose that there aren't behavioural differences as well as physical ones; if there are, then such statements could be accurate observations.
* The recent reveal that Luna is apparently TheChosenOne of the Orc race, and that her tusks were apparently a mark of that, JustBugsMe. I wouldn't call myself a hater, but for some reason this development really irks me. Maybe it's because this gives Luna (who I've never really liked to be honest) another level of GodModeSue and CanonSue. Or maybe because it has some shades of MightyWhitey (the only one who can save the Orcs and still connect with their gods is a non-Orc). Or maybe because it's trying to turn one of the few "flaws" Luna has into a divine gift. ItJustBugsMe. Hopefully the vision quest she's about to go on will give a decent explanation, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
** So far, it's looking less like she's a ChosenOne and more like she just lucked out by not offing herself and eventually getting over the tusks (which aren't unique to her).
** Well, though Luna was the only one we saw with the tusks, I don't think it was ever meant to be that she was the ''only'' one with them. When Melna first meets her, she says she's got "a case of tusk-mouth," which to me implied that it was a documented condition, if a rare one.
*** Then again, it's heavily implied that that she's the only one with the tusks who's actually happy with her life - something that would've been impossible if she'd had them removed.
*** I always considered it a breaking-the-cycle sort of thing. Her tusks were a curse from the Shintula Chief, who was angry at the slaughter of the Tienchek tribe by Callan. In her helping the orcs, she refused to continue the cycle, and thus broke the demonic corruption. As usual in DD, a good baseline that just wasn't polished out well enough.
* Dominic's treatment of Reinholdt so far JustBugsMe. Yes, Reinholdt made a racist remark targeting Luna in a previous story arc. Dominic already got him back for that by insinuating that he would die old, lonely, and unloved. Not to mention that Reinholdt agreed to help them in Maltak for little or no pay in the first place. And that he hasn't said anything rude about the Orcs or Luna since. Yet Dominic treats him like he's the embodiment of everything wrong with Callan: racism, corruption, etc.; despite the fact that Reinholdt really doesn't have those traits. Of course, since Dominic is the MarySue of the comic, Reinholdt will probably end up having skeletons in his closet, such as raping Orc babies or something, to justify this dislike.
** Or Dominic will realize that he's being a complete ass and apologize about it later. Reinholdt has already had to smack him one for being a jackass.
** Reinholdt's already done something awful. He called Luna "piggart-lips" just as soon as they left with Dominic. Not even Siggy went that far in insulting Luna. He then had the balls to ask Dominic about his future, like he was entitled to it or something. Something like that is gonna linger, and Dominic does hold grudges, especially against people who are rude to Luna. Also, Dominic doesn't know what we know about his history. We saw him talking to Cassafinn, but I highly doubt she's tell Dominic or Luna something that was told in confidence, especially after how Dominic was so rude to him. Dominic doesn't really know that Reinholdt's changed that much, so he's not gonna suddenly be nice to him.
*** Agreement on all other points, but "not even Siggy went that far"? You do recall his utter rejection of her because of her tusks was that last straw that made her want to kill herself, right?
*** Yes, but he never used the P-word. He mentions her tusks, calls her ugly and says she looks like an orc, but he never used that word when referring to Luna.
*** Eh, it's not all about what words you use. Remember, when they first met, Siggy was a visiting lord and knight, and Luna was the daughter of a noblewoman, so that's probably the main reason why he didn't actually call her a piggart or some derivative; it's one thing to call her such, but to insult a member of a noble family so openly is another. Either way, he nearly drove her to suicide, which is probably a little worse than calling her a name.
*** Her mother nearly drove Luna to suicide. Siggy, while he had a significant role toward the end, was not responsible for it. He was a pawn, not a major player the way Croona or Brakkis were. He did nothing but get freaked out by a girl with tusks. Also, he wasn't in a polite circumstance when he came back thinking Dominic was some kind of tyrant. Yes, Jayden and Milov were there, but that was a mission, not a formal gathering. He beat up two unarmed people (Gregory couldn't use his staff because he needed it to walk) just for getting in the way, one of whom was crippled and not a real threat. If he was gonna use the p-word, he would've, and probably a few others. Siggy's an ass, but he apparently does have at least some standards.

* This isn't really about DominicDeegan, but people's views upon it. Specifically, [[UnfortunateImplications people calling the Mongrelfolk and their personalities racist]]. It says on UnfortunateImplications that the Mongelfolk are basically another race of humans, when they're apparently closer to a mythical being, such as Bigfoot or the Loch Ness Monster (i.e. strange in appearance, rarely seen by humans, etc.). If the Mongrelfolk are rarely seen by humans, this obviously means that they can rarely speak to other people, and likely would enjoy the company, which can be seen as wanting people to be fascinated about them. This explains what he did to Stunt, as Stunt was basically saying "Shut up and work so we can get the hell out of here." Oh, and Stunt did call his garden "stupid", which is an insult.
** That's because, in this troper's opinion, the HateDom has reached a point where it doesn't ''matter'' what actually happens in the strip, or the author's intentions, or the explanations for what happens. Anything that happens in the strip can and ''will'' be seen in the most negative light possible, and the HateDom will assume any contrived implications are the result of either ignorance or outright malice on the part of the author.\\
I mean, really, it's like he just can't win. If he doesn't exhaustively research everything, he's called out for being stupid (look at the whole "glasswood" BS, for example), and even if what he says ''is'' backed up by research, people will still say he's wrong (the whole "aged beers" thing). If the characters win or do something right? They're all {{Mary Sue}}s and need to be taken down a peg. If the characters make a mistake? It's "Why is so-and-so so stupid?" Want to show that Orc culture (or any other culture, for that matter) is different? Then he's a racist! Because everyone everywhere should have the same values, and it's '''wrong''' to show that there's differences in how, say, Callanians and Orcs treat women.\\
[deep breath] Sorry, went on a bit of a rant there.
*** If I hadn't already given up completely, I would have given that rant myself.
*** You can say "my." "This troper" is less of a convention and more of a symptom. Anyway. Hopefully I can help: I've long been unable to enjoy the comic, but do enjoy the gags of the [=GiantITP=] snarkers. Their attitudes don't seem as bad as the mindless naysaying that you present. People who dislike a thing are more likely to highlight its flaws, through no fault of their own, right?\\
My guess is that Mookie's storytelling style makes high-flying arcs very unlikely to please dislikers, and their slowness means that this has been the case for a long time. Let's review. The last half a year started with Lynn's Brook DBZ, a battle which had far too much power to make sense of who was winning, reducing it to special effects. Special effects that show effort, but if you're going to impress us with art you [[http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2008-11-08 could give Dex his left leg.]] It ended with the return of Supergreg - hopefully I don't have to elaborate on that. Dex's death was the best thing the comic had had in months, until the author went directly against the story for the explicit reason that he couldn't bear to kill off the character who had just received a week-long death scene. The scrying on Snuggly and the start of the Maltak trip were more down-to-earth and more coherent: snarkers said that the comic was looking up, and even dared to hope that it was improving.\\
I find Maltak almost completely incomprehensible. It's a featureless desert that the're crossing bare-headed - it's not unreasonable to expect the authour to research that before dumping the characters into a desert for most of a year. Whatever Orc arrows are, Dominic [[AnnoyingArrows takes one to the arm]] and is none the worse for wear without a medic, magic, any apparent place for a fire, or consequences lasting more than 24 hours. People run into each other in incredibly contrived ways, even without the nakta, and [[http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2009-04-21 see ten meters away in an open plain]] without so much as a word of explanation. [[http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2009-04-21 How can the tradition of rapery we've seen be blamed on infernomancers, which it predates]]? Is the dragon's masterminding supposed to make sense? I can't tell! This is just the sort of thing that fans will let go, but which critics get stuck on. In fact a great many details will infuriate dislikers: using IJustKnew [[http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2009-02-26 three times in eight panels]], [[http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2009-03-24 changing the time unnecessarily]], making the ButtMonkey people [[http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2009-04-03 massacers of infants]], [[http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2009-04-28 throwing sentient elements into a supposedly well-established magic system]], [[http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2009-04-22 using complex sentences while being choked]], offending virtually everyone who's tired of Chosen Ones by giving Luna massive power with her own angst as the only drawback and declaring earning it to have happened retroactively, "[[http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2009-04-07 screw in a lamp post]]", etc.\\
I ramble. Hopefully this shows that the hatedom does have valid issues, and while it is unfair, it would be less negative if the strip was in the middle of a less ambitious, more coherent plot.
*** ...maybe one or two of those are valid issues (Siegfried, and ''maybe'' the choking). The rest is just incredible nitpicking (if that, where are the Infernomancers blamed for the rapings?)...which I guess was the point. They're the kinds of things the critics won't let slide. I mean, come on. The deliberately cheesy "screw in a lamppost" joke is a valid issue? Oh, and incidentally? The comic has had sentient elementals for [[http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2006-09-25 about three years now]]. Longer if you count Nielen.
**** Look at that link where the poison the land thing is. One of the frames is from the comic where Melna's dad is challenged to the test of taking by whathisname. The thing that people are bugged about screw in a lampost is that it just doesn't make any sense. It's like he wanted to use the lightbulb joke, tried to come up with a close medivel equivalent, and settled it there. And Rocky and Neilen were never the source of the magic inherent in themselves. The point is that the magic was well defined until Mookie changed it to suit the whims of the story.
**** Show me where Mookie established that there ''weren't'' sentient aspects of the elements, and maybe you've got a case. Having sentient elements isn't a contradiction, it's new information being revealed about the setting. It ''was'' established, when the Shintula clan first showed up, that the Orc Chandaks "ask" the elements to let them use magic, implying that, yes, there's something or someone available to "answer."
*** Also, it's kinda silly to say a plot doesn't make sense when it's still in the middle of happening. I mean, you wouldn't watch, say, half of a movie and then complain that it doesn't make sense, would you? You need to see the whole thing in order to cast any real judgment on a whole storyline, of course it isn't going to make total sense if you're still in the middle of it.
**** It's actually in the webcomic's favour that we do pass judgement on an arc mid-way, it certainly was for the Vacation- um I mean [[spoiler: "Just as Planned"]] arc. The thing is, it isn't so much the weight of Dominic Deegan's downfalls as much as it is the frequency and variety, sure most fictions make these sort of mistakes but few make this many so often across such a broad spectrum of different ways to fail, (and that is said with admiration of the writer, this isn't hatedom, a lot of us love it because it's terrible). But enough, let's not turn this into a debate hall, if you have a complaint to make, [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110535 I would post it here.]]
**** In defense of Luna's ability to talk while being choked--that's a triangle choke. It's a blood choke; unless you squeeze ''very'' hard it's not going to cut off your air. So she could talk fine--it's the time limit before she passes out that's the problem. Whether she passed that is fuzzy.
** Because not only is he writing Strawmen and Mary Sues, he's also making a living off it. To those who aspire to make a webcomic, this pretty much says "Hey, you don't need to be ''creative'' to make a webcomic. You just need puns and alliteration!" We, by snarking, hope to rekindle motivation in those who would make great things, but settle for less, due to Deegan.
*** That sounds foolish. "He makes a bad comic, and it ruins other comics". No, Dominic Deegan doesn't bring down other webartist. It doesn't discourage them, nor does it prevent "good" comics from flourishing. If they were that good, they'd be more popular. If you're gonna hate, then hate, but don't hand out some BS reason. He's creative enough to make a living. Those Strawmen Mary Sues must be good enough for the fandom. It wouldn't be nearly as bad if the Hatedom didn't leak all over the main page.

* The StrawmanPolitical example on the main page. [[ThePrincessBride I do not think it means what they think it means]]. Granted I could see room for complaint about the flashback of Siggy lynching that Orc family as an AssPull to kick Siggy past the MoralEventHorizon, but to call it an example of a StrawmanPolitical is basically saying, "You know, people who think people of different races and cultures are a lesser grade of people ain't so bad."

* How hasn't the artwork improved in almost ten years? Even CtrlAltDel has some ArtEvolution, come ''on'' man. It looks almost exactly the same, how do you remain so static for so long?

*** Because Mookie can't draw

** (See Above)

*** That analogy doesn't really fit Greg's situation. Gregory isn't some guy who's never been in a fight and doesn't have any sort of special powers...even before Super Greg, you ''already knew'' that Greg for all intents and purposes had superpowers via his White Magic, and was experienced in using them. He could fly, give himself super strength, make himself invincible, heal from just about any injury...honestly, he was a superhero in everything but costume and setting. And DominicDeegan has, from the start, basically been an analog to the modern world, only with magic taking the place of technology in a lot of places. So while I can see how it might be jarring and more than a little silly to go into a comic book homage/parody, I still don't see how it's a WallBanger. It's a kid with superpowers doing exactly what you'd expect a kid with superpowers to do.\\

I think we're just going to have to disagree on this one. The only way I can see it as a WallBanger, honestly, is if you're already going into it to pick it apart. I read it as it happened, and have gone back and read it, and I don't nearly see how it's as bad as everyone says, certainly not for it to be constantly referenced as "Super Greg, just...Super Greg," as if it was self-evident and clear to all creation that this is the worst thing anyone's ever done, ever, all the time.

**** In some [=RPGs=] NPCs do occasionally remark on your weirder party members. They usually don't though because of GameplayAndStorySegregation. DD is not a game. It does not to get to use that as an excuse. That said, it does make sense that Quilt is more or less accepted in Barthis. The people who brought him to live there and vouched for him are the town's local heroes after all. Plus, we only ever see him interacting with the members of the cast who have already accepted him and we never see him talking to other people by himself. It's entirely possible that some people in Barthis are still uncomfortable with Quilt and only tolerate him because the Deegans vouched for him. He'd probably invite more than a few uncomfortable stares if he ever left his comfort zone in Barthis, which is probably why he rarely ever seems to leave it.

**** This is really such a huge problem to you? I wonder if you sit and rage at, say, RPGs because every single NPC doesn't do the "WHOAMG A TALKING LION/FROG-PERSON/SUPERMUTANT/NAKED LADY!", or if this is exclusive whining about DD for the sake of whining about DD.
**** In some RPGs NPCs do occasionally remark on your weirder party members. They usually don't though because of GameplayAndStorySegregation. DD is not a game. It does not to get to use that as an excuse. That said, it does make sense that Quilt is more or less accepted in Barthis. The people who brought him to live there and vouched for him are the town's local heroes after all. Plus, we only ever see him interacting with the members of the cast who have already accepted him and we never see him talking to other people by himself. It's entirely possible that some people in Barthis are still uncomfortable with Quilt and only tolerate him because the Deegans vouched for him. He'd probably invite more than a few uncomfortable stares if he ever left his comfort zone in Barthis, which is probably why he rarely ever seems to leave it.

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** Judging by what Barnett said, Travoria women learning magic is just expected, so she'd have learned some as a matter of course. The elder Travoria might also have wanted Luna to have some use in case she for some reason didn't kill herself.

* Oh hey, Stunt and Bortella. Way to kill off all those strawmen. That might, in a way, be justified, if Stunt hadn't already killed someone in that arc, and if the strawmen did anything but stab that one chick. Stunt also has the honor of crossing the MoralEventHorizon at the end. Yay Wild Edge!