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** For that matter, One could have sneaked into the repair bay a few times before, with luggage and supplies for their upcoming journey, prior to his bringing Susan there.
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** The key thing about it is that they know for a fact it's true, she accidentally confirmed it to them. If she'd said no and accused them of being liars, that would have wrecked her relationship with them and they would never have trusted her again. Seeing as she's their nanny for a living and cares about them a lot, she probably wouldn't even consider battling them like that. Plus, they're immature kids - there's no telling how many people they would have told and there are ways of confirming that photos are real. She needed to keep them sweet as they probably wouldn't have stopped at their dad.
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*** If the Doctor's capable of erasing all information about himself on any given database, then he's probably capable of writing a virus or bot or something that is able to detect if someone tries to re-upload it on any given database and then delete it again.
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*** This raises another question: nobody's going to put that information back into the database? It's the Doctor; I find it hard to imagine people who know about him wouldn't have backups of information like that well hidden. Even if he destroyed all of the information in the database, people would still remember enough to point out 'this man exists and is important; keep an eye on him'.
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**He can't. It's already established that he wasn't there. Going back and being there would change Clara's need to find him, thus creating a paradox.
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** Due to only one season of footage of Nine, they probably couldn't find a good enough scene where he was alone to use. Otherwise, maybe it had something to do with Eccleson's animosity with the show.
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** Amy has never been all that rational. Given the amount of trauma she's gone through, the idea probably made sense to her, especially since the only reason Rory became a companion in the first place is because of her.
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* You have a time machine! Just go to the shop at the time and place where Clara got the number and see who she got it from! ''Easy-peasy!''
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**** Remember the one lie too big for the psychic paper to tell? "I am widely recognized as a mature and responsible adult."

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** It's possible that this will be explained in a later episode, but most likely, it was River; it does fit her MO, so it's hardly a great leap to suppose it was her.

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** It's possible that this will be explained in a later episode, but most likely, it was River; it does fit her MO, so it's hardly a great leap to suppose it was her. her.
*** The Doctor brings this up in the series eight premiere, looks like it's going to become a larger plot point. [[spoiler: It seems at this point is was Missy, the creepy woman in "Paradise" in series eight who calls the Doctor her boyfriend.]]
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** Just to point out, this is set after the Doctor's last meeting with River from his perspective, she's gone off to the Library to meet Ten. He's in mourning in this episode over the loss of all three Ponds, not just Amy and Rory. Technically that makes him a widower. [[spoiler: Also series 8 implies that Eleven considered himself/wanted to be her boyfriend.]]
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*** You. You I like.
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*** 1. Lactation doesnt work that way. 2. I'm almost certain that wouldnt actually work for making a soufle.

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*** 1. Lactation doesnt doesn't work that way. 2. I'm almost certain that wouldnt actually work for making a soufle.souffle.



** Only pure Daleks ares sent to the Asylum, and even then only when it isnt inconvenient.

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** Only pure Daleks ares are sent to the Asylum, and even then only when it isnt inconvenient.



*** I assume that the Prime Minister is basically an extension of the Emperor, or possibly something like the Classic Series' Dalek High Council. The Emperor can't dictate everything that happens in the Dalek Empire and needs a Dalek to basically be his voice. The Prime Minister would be his representative-just being a mutant in a fancy tube could signify that the Dalek Prime Minister has no real power. Being called a "Dalek Prime Minister" was [[EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor both a joke]] and nod to their involvment with Winston Churchill.

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*** I assume that the Prime Minister is basically an extension of the Emperor, or possibly something like the Classic Series' Dalek High Council. The Emperor can't dictate everything that happens in the Dalek Empire and needs a Dalek to basically be his voice. The Prime Minister would be his representative-just being a mutant in a fancy tube could signify that the Dalek Prime Minister has no real power. Being called a "Dalek Prime Minister" was [[EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor both a joke]] and nod to their involvment involvement with Winston Churchill.



** It's not exactly uncommon for couples who have seemingly strong relationships to break down after discovering that one of the partners is infertile, and remember that Amy is going through a lot of grief and insecurity about this; it might not be strictly logical of her to think in this way, but then love, grief and insecurity very rarely operate according to strictly logical terms. River is is not exactly a conventional example of having a child, since they've missed out on several fundamental parts of the process of rearing their child (such as the whole 'childhood' thing for one).

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** It's not exactly uncommon for couples who have seemingly strong relationships to break down after discovering that one of the partners is infertile, and remember that Amy is going through a lot of grief and insecurity about this; it might not be strictly logical of her to think in this way, but then love, grief and insecurity very rarely operate according to strictly logical terms. River is is not exactly a conventional example of having a child, since they've missed out on several fundamental parts of the process of rearing their child (such as the whole 'childhood' thing for one).



** Remember the afterword, too. Amy was apparently a lot older when she wrote it, and it confirmed that they never saw eachother again (alright, so he ''could'' go back to a time after she wrote it... but somehow I think meeting her again as a very old woman not far from death would probably upset both of them more).

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** Remember the afterword, too. Amy was apparently a lot older when she wrote it, and it confirmed that they never saw eachother each other again (alright, so he ''could'' go back to a time after she wrote it... but somehow I think meeting her again as a very old woman not far from death would probably upset both of them more).



** The farm ''doesn't make any sense.'' The angels feed by zapping people into the past and soaking up the potential energy their removal from the time stream generates. They also can apparently physically teleport people without sending them back in time, too. And they take over a hotel in New York and use it as a location that they can keep zapping people back to to feed younger versions of themselves. ''That'' part, I get. However, New York has only been around since about 1624, and chances are high that part of it's going to be underwater within the next century. It's one of the worst places you could possibly build such a farm. Plus, they ''can't'' be zapping prey much further back than the 1930's era we see in the episode, because otherwise there would have been no Old Rory to die in front of Young Rory's eyes. So they're getting, what, maybe three or four meals per victim out of it? And then they're keeping those victims imprisoned in the hotel, fed and cared for, even after they've fed. And when the victims try to escape, they (or the Statue of Liberty) zap them back to their room. But if the angels need to eat, then they clearly require energy to live, and they must be ''expending'' energy to return their prisoners to their cells. So unless Rory only ever tried to escape ''once'' before giving up--which I think we can all agree is unlikely--then the angels must have needed to keep expending energy to imprison him again. Not to mention the other resource drains that would come with maintaining the hotel for centuries. Yes, sure, Ten called them "thoughtful psychopaths," but if they're unable to handle basic resource management, they're not thoughtful, they're stupid.

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** The farm ''doesn't make any sense.'' The angels feed by zapping people into the past and soaking up the potential energy their removal from the time stream generates. They also can apparently physically teleport people without sending them back in time, too. And they take over a hotel in New York and use it as a location that they can keep zapping people back to to feed younger versions of themselves. ''That'' part, I get. However, New York has only been around since about 1624, and chances are high that part of it's going to be underwater within the next century. It's one of the worst places you could possibly build such a farm. Plus, they ''can't'' be zapping prey much further back than the 1930's era we see in the episode, because otherwise there would have been no Old Rory to die in front of Young Rory's eyes. So they're getting, what, maybe three or four meals per victim out of it? And then they're keeping those victims imprisoned in the hotel, fed and cared for, even after they've fed. And when the victims try to escape, they (or the Statue of Liberty) zap them back to their room. But if the angels need to eat, then they clearly require energy to live, and they must be ''expending'' energy to return their prisoners to their cells. So unless Rory only ever tried to escape ''once'' before giving up--which I think we can all agree is unlikely--then the angels must have needed to keep expending energy to imprison him again. Not to mention the other resource drains that would come with maintaining the hotel for centuries. Yes, sure, Ten called them "thoughtful psychopaths," but if they're unable to handle basic resource management, they're not thoughtful, they're stupid.



** I'm pretty sure the only way to escape is not to click on the Wi-Fi connection in the first place, or at least that's what the opening scene implied to me (apart from the blatant Apple MacBook Air placements all over the scene, which imply that that scene was just an Apple advert instead). Once you've clicked, it's over, I presume.

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** I'm pretty sure the only way to escape is not to click on the Wi-Fi connection in the first place, or at least that's what the opening scene implied to me (apart from the blatant Apple MacBook {{Mac}}Book Air placements all over the scene, which imply that that scene was just an Apple advert instead). Once you've clicked, it's over, I presume.



* When Clara is traveling through The Doctor's time-stream, how come we never see her saving the Ninth Doctor? I know theirs a clip of her helping Ten at the Library (even though it was cut for some reason), but no Nine, why is that?

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* When Clara is traveling through The Doctor's time-stream, how come we never see her saving the Ninth Doctor? I know theirs there's a clip of her helping Ten at the Library (even though it was cut for some reason), but no Nine, why is that?

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** Mr Clever and the Doctor were at a stalemate and the most expedient way to resolve it was to agree to a chess match. As far as Mr Clever was concerned the Doctor was only delaying the inevitable, and he's enough of an asshole to allow the Doctor one last bit of hope before snuffing it out. The Doctor meanwhile, realizes that's what Mr Clever is doing and sticks with the chess thing to keep him distracted long enough to come up with a real plan.



** The doctor had to turn the power up on it and he might have been afraid it might hurt the kids.

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** The doctor Doctor had to turn the power up on it and he might have been afraid it might hurt the kids.
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** Though in all fairness, the Great Intelligence is a black-hearted monstrous villain himself.

* When Clara is traveling through The Doctor's time-stream, how come we never see her saving the Ninth Doctor? I know theirs a clip of her helping Ten at the Library (even though it was cut for some reason), but no Nine, why is that?
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*** He ''didn't'' kill them all last time, [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E03VictoryOfTheDaleks they won.]] It makes sense they'd have gotten more powerful.

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*** He ''didn't'' kill them all last time, [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E03VictoryOfTheDaleks [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E3VictoryOfTheDaleks they won.]] It makes sense they'd have gotten more powerful.



*** Given the events of ''The Stolen Earth'' and ''Journey's End'' got eaten by time-cracks, he might never have even made it out of the Time War. Unless they got brought back in Big Bang 2, but then everyone should know about aliens.
** Even if he survived thanks to JokerImmunity, genetically pure Daleks tend to hate him and only seek his help when they have no other choice (against the Movellans in Destiny of the Daleks, Caan when he's the last left).

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*** Given the events of ''The "The Stolen Earth'' Earth" and ''Journey's End'' "Journey's End" got eaten by time-cracks, he might never have even made it out of the Time War. Unless they got brought back in Big Bang 2, but then everyone should know about aliens.
** Even if he survived thanks to JokerImmunity, genetically pure Daleks tend to hate him and only seek his help when they have no other choice (against the Movellans in Destiny "Destiny of the Daleks, Daleks", Caan when he's the last left).



** Perhaps Daleks have a means of teleportation built into the casings (like the Emergency Temporal Shift.)

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** Perhaps Daleks have a means of teleportation built into the casings (like the Emergency Temporal Shift.)Shift).



* The Dalek from ''Dalek'' had been put in chains by humans who didn't know its strength. And it worked because it was so heavily damaged. Seeing it break free of those after repairing itself was a nice effect. But why are there so many shattered links in ''Asylum of the Daleks''? Who thought it would restrain anyone? Or were the Doctor, Amy and Rory leaving time energy everywhere?

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* The Dalek from ''Dalek'' "Dalek" had been put in chains by humans who didn't know its strength. And it worked because it was so heavily damaged. Seeing it break free of those after repairing itself was a nice effect. But why are there so many shattered links in ''Asylum "Asylum of the Daleks''? Daleks"? Who thought it would restrain anyone? Or were the Doctor, Amy and Rory leaving time energy everywhere?



** The final answer from ''The Name of the Doctor'': [[spoiler:Oswin and Clara are both the same person, a girl named Clara who becomes the Doctor's Companion and ends up jumping into his Time Stream to save his life. This action spreads her across his lifetime, causing her to appear in numerous times and places to help him]].

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** The final answer from ''The "The Name of the Doctor'': Doctor": [[spoiler:Oswin and Clara are both the same person, a girl named Clara who becomes the Doctor's Companion and ends up jumping into his Time Stream to save his life. This action spreads her across his lifetime, causing her to appear in numerous times and places to help him]].
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** Marriage doesn't immediately and completely remove the possibility of UST with someone who is not the marriage partner; hence why people have affairs.
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** In "The Day of the Doctor", there's a scene where the War Doctor ''does'' take the TARDIS into battle. It's likely that the ''non''-War Doctor has sworn off doing so as part of his rejection of everything that [[spoiler: he thinks]] the War Doctor was.
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*** Or, given how "The Day of the Doctor" wrapped up, [[spoiler: the Curator could have restored the records, or intercepted Eleven when he came to erase U.N.I.T.'s files and told him not to.]]
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** As for the one from "Dalek" being the LastOfHisKind, even if it had known that the Asylum was still around after the Time War, it probably wouldn't have considered a bunch of raving lunatics "real" Daleks, any more than it could consider itself one after it realized how Rose's DNA had changed it.
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** It's one thing to manipulate a race into ordering their own destruction or to dump them in some barely-comprehensible timey-wimey thing or to gather a team of allies to rescue a close friend. It's quite another to start pointing guns in people's faces and threatening to shoot them. Since the Doctor doesn't do the latter that often, it's a pretty big clue that he's acting irrationally (for him). The Doctor kills, yes, but he rarely pulls the trigger directly.
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* When the Great Intelligence is pointing about the Doctor's darker nature by pointing out people he's killed "The Sycorax Leader, Solomon the Trader, Daleks and Cyberman." Um, Mr G.I? Those aren't very good examples-the Daleks [[OmnicidalManiac routinely, unrepentantly and are programmed to try to kill everyone]] [[AbsoluteXenophobe but them]], and the Doctor only killed the Sycorax Leader out of self-defence. Not to mention the Cybermen [[FateWorseThanDeath would probably be better off dead.]] Except for Solomon, these aren't good examples of the Doctor's darker nature.
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* Why does Amy ask "when as killing been an option"?She knows the Doctor has killed and is willing to kill threats,heck he dumped the Weeping Angels in a time fissure that made them never exist,arranged it so the Silence would order there own death and launched an assault on Demon's run when Amy was taken (at least two of those things occurred while she was watching).

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* Why does Amy ask "when as killing been an option"?She option"? She knows the Doctor has killed and is willing to kill threats,heck threats, after all he dumped the Weeping Angels in a time fissure that made them never exist,arranged exist, arranged it so the Silence would order there own death and launched an assault on Demon's run when Amy was taken (at least two of those things occurred while she was watching).
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*Why does Amy ask "when as killing been an option"?She knows the Doctor has killed and is willing to kill threats,heck he dumped the Weeping Angels in a time fissure that made them never exist,arranged it so the Silence would order there own death and launched an assault on Demon's run when Amy was taken (at least two of those things occurred while she was watching).
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** She didn't want him to have to face the choice between the Great Intelligence killing his friends or being forced to open the tomb, and so made the choice for him presuming that he would be able to pull a rabbit out of a hat and defeat whatever the Intelligence was up to -- something that would also be much easier if his friends were still alive to help him.
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** Who's to say there wasn't both? The Silurians detect a massive asteroid on collision course with the planet and start preparing emergency procedures like the ark, but before the asteroid collides the freighter pops up out of nowhere and crashes, causing the extinction event. Then, once everything's dead, the asteroid slams into the planet not long after, but there's (almost) nothing left to kill. That way, the freighter is the actual cause of the event, but as far as future researchers are concerned it was an asteroid.
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* The premise of this episode is that Silurians, living at the end of the Cretaceous, built the vessel to save a variety of animal species from being wiped out by the oncoming K-T asteroid impact. However, it was established in "Earthshock" that the Whoniverse dinosaurs died out because the Cybermen sent a space freighter crashing towards future Earth, and Adric's attempts to stop it caused the vessel to shift back in time. How could the Silurians have anticipated the mass extinction in time to launch such an ark, if it happened because an explosive-laden space freighter popped up from the distant future on an imminent collision course?
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** Basically, The Doctor wanted River to escape without breaking her wrist to prove that they could change established events and that it's not a hopeless affair because he's afraid of the chapter title "Amelia's Last Farewell". Not wanting to disappoint him, River lied about breaking her wrist and he got upset because she lied and because it implies it's not going to be possible to change that title.
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*** The wardrobe is a Chronicles of Narnia reference referring to how the present is a portal to another world.

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*** The wardrobe is a Chronicles of Narnia reference referring to how the present is a portal to another world.

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