History Headscratchers / DigimonFrontier

** It could also be that Dukemon wasn't classified as part of the Royal Knights until Anime/DigimonXEvolution. This series initiated the Royal Knights as a [[Characters/DigimonSpecialGroups Special Group]], but the movie that came after expanded on it.

** It could also be that Dukemon wasn't classified as part of the Royal Knights until Anime/DigimonXEvolution. This series initiated the Royal Knights as a [[Characters/DigimonMegaDigimonSpecialGroups Special Group]], but the movie that came after expanded on it.

* Why the hell is it that the dubbed voice for Icedevimon sounds like Christopher Walken with a Brooklyn accent?
** I don't know, but it's not the first time the dub has 'embellished' a character's voice in ways you couldn't predict from watching the source material alone (think Etemon from season one). I thought the accent gave him an eerie character, as if he was ObliviouslyEvil and therefore [[ForTheEvulz he killed things for little more than 'fun']].
** It's too bad, because Michael Reisz's rendition of the character in Tamers was ''so freaking awesome'' with that smooth voice combined with the things he got to say. The Frontier version got the same kind of epic lines, so I wish we'd gotten to hear them in the old "please, take me here and now" voice instead of a silly one that totally de-badass-ified the character. Especially with their normal use of homage casting - I mean, doesn't every MonsterOfTheWeek Meramon ''ever'' get the same VA?
* Speaking of which, Kenta. ''Tamers'' Kenta's VA ''plays a major character'' in Frontier so it's not like they couldn't get the actor back. But ''Kenta'' gets a totally different-sounding VA for his one line here. This after letting Gallantmon speak with the combined voice of Takato and Guilmon and refer to himself as "we," ''really'' planting cross-dimensional EpilepticTrees.

* Ok I might be alone on this but why are Koji and Kouichi’s voices so different (I know they were played by different actors) but they are 12 year old identical twins, shouldn’t their voices sound similar. I may be alone but Kouichi voice just sounded to deep if they wanted to show the boys were different why not ask Koji’s voice actor to make his Koji voice slightly different for Kouichi, and well give the show some time to show that the boys are different.
** Real life twins don't always sound identical.

* Ok I might be alone on this but why are Koji and Kouichi’s voices so different (I know they were played by different actors) but they are 12 year old identical twins, shouldn’t their voices sound similar. I may be alone but Kouichi voice just sounded to deep if they wanted to show the boys were different why not ask Koji’s voice actor to make his Koji voice slightly different for Kouichi, and well give the show some time to show that the boys are different.

** The Spirits need hosts, and those four stopped having them after they were defeated. Takuya and co. summoning them is simply impossible according to those rules.

** Same Troper as above - here's an old [[https://withthewill.net/threads/frontier-in-the-uk.4181/ With The Will forum thread]] that talks about Frontier seemingly coming to the Jetix channel in the UK, after some supposed teasing in 2001. To summarise, it seems that the teasers I remember seeing might have been showing around 2007, so my memory of the channel still being Fox Kids was wrong but at least I've finally found some confirmation that I didn't just imagine the buffers.

** Same Troper as above - here's an old [[ https://withthewill.net/threads/frontier-in-the-uk.4181/ With The Will forum thread]] that talks about Frontier seemingly coming to the channel. To summarise, it seems that the teasers I remember seeing might have been showing around 2007, so my memory of the channel still being Fox Kids was wrong but at least I've finally found some confirmation that I didn't just imagine the buffers.

* Why didn't the DigiDestined try different tactics against the Royal Knights other than "Takuya and Koji do everything and get their asses kicked"? Like, why didn't they summon Mercurymon, have him evolve into Sukkakumon, and use him against the Royal Knights? Better yet, summon Mercurymon and the other three formerly evil warriors, have them use their beast spirits(with the DigiDestined beast spirit evolving too), and take on each of the Royal Knights five-to-one? It's really cliche when a certain faction is evil, they're hella powerful, but when that faction becomes good, they don't use any of the strength or resources they had when they were evil.

* The whole “Human/Beast Digimon” divide never made sense. To start with, the distinction makes no sense given how radically Digimon morphology varies. I mean, where do you draw the line when anthropomorphic animal-people are some of the most common types around? Just looking at the main cast: a walking snow teddy bear is Human while a winged lingerie model with weird hands and feet is apparently a Beast. The distinction is completely arbitrary. We’re not even getting into things like machine and object Digimon or the numerous indistinct blobs that would not fit either category. Not that it would really matter given how radically a Digimon’s forms shift through their digivolutions, meaning that most of them have shifted between both groups. Now, I could understand if the plan was to use these logic holes to show why the prejudice was nonsensical as an allegory to racism, but it just doesn’t work here because series didn’t build the setting to make it seem like an actual part of the culture since there really isn’t any sort of Digital World culture outside of random villages. It wasn’t even really used outside of the single movie. Why bother putting it in the series at all if it added so little and has so many logical holes that don’t fit the franchise?

*** [[BerserkButton "Not a bad person?"]] I've only see the dub so if the Japanese version makes him more sympathetic than I'm missing something but seriously not telling your kid "YOUR MOTHER IS ALIVE ALONG WITH YOUR TWIN BROTHER" is very fucked up. Lying to Koji left him an emotional traumatized to the point he had trouble connecting with people; not just his mother but friends also. Also he denied Koji the opportunity to know his maternal grandmother. Takuya and Tommy's parents went out of their way to either spoil or nurture their children correctly; they made sure they were happy and good people. Spoiling Tommy might not have been a good choice because it made him a soft and co-dependant child but it's clear they still love him. And both Koji's parents are to blame for bad parenting; the choices they made traumatized both their sons, especially Koichi, who WAS LEFT SO EMOTIONALLY VALNURABLE he let darkness consume him! Koji's birth mother is weak but puts on a brave face. Dad? Koji's father tried to comfort his son about his biological mother and stepmother issues but Koji wouldn't hear it. His response: Can you at least be nice to her for my sake?" WTF, he could have pointed out how nice his new stepmother is or something but it sounds like he's more concerned for himself. Maybe he's not a bad person but he's in the run for "worst dad" of the Digimon franchise.

*** What bugs me about it is, how the ''hell'' did Koji not know Koichi ''existed?'' It's not like they were split at birth, the divorce happened far more recently.

*** [[BerserkButton "Not a bad person?"]] I've only see the dub so if the Japanese version makes him more sympathetic than I'm missing something but seriously not telling your kid "YOUR MOTHER IS ALIVE ALONG WITH YOUR TWIN BROTHER" is very fucked up. Lying to Koji left him an emotional tramautized to the point he had trouble connecting with people; not just his mother but friends also. Also he denied Koji the oppertunity to know his maternal grandmother. Takuya and Tommy's parents went out of their way to either spoil or nurture their children correctly; they made sure they were happy and good people. Spoiling Tommy might not have been a good choice because it made him a soft and co-dependant child but it's clear they still love him. And both Koji's parents are to blame for bad parenting; the choices they made tramautized both their sons, especially Koichi, who WAS LEFT SO EMOTIONALLY VALNURABLE he let darkness consume him! Koji's birth mother is weak but puts on a brave face. Dad? Koji's father tried to comfort his son about his biological mother and stepmother issues but Koji wouldn't hear it. His response: Can you at least be nice to her for my sake?" WTF, he could have pointed out how nice his new stepmother is or something but it sounds like he's more concerned for himself. Maybe he's not a bad person but he's in the run for "worst dad" of the Digimon franchise.

*** Oddly enough, though, Fire and Ice's beast spirits are two of the anthropomorphic ones, and Light's is one of the actually beasty ones.

* The beast spirits of light, darkness, and wood look like beasts, [[CaptainObvious as one would expect.]] The others, however, are anthropomorphic animals at best and humans with animal features at worst. The beast spirit of metal ''isn't even based on an animal.'' What gives?

* If all of the 10 Warriors have a level where they combine both Spirits, as shown in the cards, why do only two of the cast get to use it? It’s not like the remaining four couldn’t stand getting a power-up to remain relevant. Especially Tokomi and Izumi who seem near incapable of winning at all without back-up. Don’t [[SpotlightStealingSquad Takuya and Koji]] get enough of the limelight when they use everyone else’s powers to reach their final levels without the forms that they only use two or three times?

* This is a minor gripe, but when they Spirit Evolve [[OutOfClothesExperience their clothes come off]], right? If that's the case, why the heck does Koji's ponytail stay intact when he does it? Whatever's holding it up has got to be less sturdy than his clothes. Were the animators just too lazy to animate his hair coming undone?

* This troper cannot fathom why everyone but Koji and Takuya simply spirit evolved against Icedevimon. He's eaten the data of all the Digimon Cherubimon collected and was so dangerous even the Celestial Digimon couldn't beat him, so why don't they at least Beast Spirit evolve?

* The events leading up to Susanoomon's appearance. [[spoiler: So apparently the key to defeating Lucemon is "Combining light and darkness"... which they've already been doing for the past 12 episodes. (Both sets of Spirits being required to form [=MagnaGarurumon=].) Then they go and challenge Lucemon, and everyone except Kouichi are severely injured by his ''Dead or Alive'' attack, and Bokomon comments that if they get hit again, they'll die. Then ''Kouichi'' gets hit by the attack and [[DisneyDeath supposedly dies]] despite the anime having previously shown Löwemon and [=KaiserLeomon=] to be by far the strongest of the Ten Warriors. Though before he disappears he gives his Spirits over to Kouji, which... for some reason almost kills him? He's been regularly handing his Spirits over to Kouji through the entire last arc! And then Takuya and Kouji combine to become Susanoomon. Okay, so... ''why'' was any of the stuff that led up to that evolution at all necessary?]]
** Well, if you think about it, villains tend to use their most powerful attack to finish off the opponent, probably to make sure they don't come back alive. Why would [[spoiler: Lucemon]] be any different? So he was using more power than usual for his last attack so as to completely obliterate them and make them suffer in agony, which was why [[spoiler: Kouichi dies at the first hit, and also why he could do all that 'take my spirit' talk and stuff before being absorbed as data]]. As for Kouji, well, this is the first time he's handling another spirit which didn't choose him while in human form. It's very possible that his spirit was the control for the others during unity evolution. So he'd obviously have a extremely hard time controlling a spirit which wasn't chosen for him. Also, it's the opposite of his attribute, which is light. So they'd obviously be conflicting, and it might have been too hard for a human body/spirit/whatever to bear. And another thing: I'm pretty sure that they'd only started to act up after his [[spoiler: death]]. So maybe all the time he was holding the spirits while in human form, [[spoiler: Kouichi]] might have been holding back his spirits' power.

** As for the combo of [[spoiler: Takuya and Kouji]], I think they needed a mental boost for it. It wasn't really personal for them till [[spoiler: Kouichi's death, where he basically tells them to save the world as his dying wish]]. That would pretty much make them have righteous anger as well as grief, allowing them a personal reason for beating the crap outta him. Anyway, they were pretty emotional. This made them try harder than before to beat [[spoiler: Lucemon]], which was exactly what was needed for going to the next level. Obviously, [[spoiler: it worked]].

** I was always under the impression that, given we see the remains of trying to bond the Dark spirits to Digimon hosts, that the Spirits of Earth, Wood, Water and Metal actually ''were'' bonded to Digimon hosts - only it worked a little differently to when a Spirit was bound to a human host. They way I think it works is that Digimon would make easier hosts as they're technically the same creatures as the Spirits (i.e. they're all Digimon technically), but the host's data would be consumed and reformatted to be a part of the new 'Spirit Digimon' - which is why they left nothing behind upon their defeat. The Dark spirits were corrupted far worse than the other four, which is presumably why Cherubimon had such trouble with finding a host for them. It likely that the failed hosts were turned by the darkness and corruption, not so much the Spirit's power. For humans though, while the bonding would be a lot more difficult because humans aren't Digimon, this fact would also mean that humans ''aren't'' consumed by the Spirit entirely and so can be separated from them without being lost entirely. And this could also answer why Ophanimon never animated the Spirits herself or tried to bind them to Digimon hosts - animating the Spirits isn't possible without a host and she wouldn't want to sacrifice other Digimon just to get her warriors on the table.

* Why was it that after Takuya defeated Grumblemon, all he ended up taking away was the guy's Beast Spirit? Had Takuya also taken Grumblemon's Human Spirit while he was out of commission, he would have been defeated right then and there, and Tommy and Zoe's stolen Spirits would then be home free to return to them. Instead, Takuya goes for his friends' Spirits first before finishing off Grumblemon, but is only able to get Tommy's Spirit back, because Grumblemon is able to reestablish himself, and escape. It just ends up feeling like a retarded choice was made just to prolong the fight against Grumblemon for another episode.

* Why was it that after Takuya defeated Grumblemon, all he ended up taking away was the guy's Beast Spirit? Had Takuya also taken Grumblemon's Human Spirit while he was out of commission, he would have been defeated right then and there, and Tommy and Zoe's stolen Spirits would then be home free to return to them. Instead, Takuya goes for his friends Spirits first before finishing off Grumblemon, but is only able to get Tommy's Spirit back, because Grumblemon is able to reestablish himself, and escape. It just ends up feeling like a retarded choice was made just to prolong the fight against Grumblemon for another episode.

** Well, if you think about it, villains tend to use their most powerful attack to finish off the opponent, probably to make sure they don't come back alive. Why would [[spoiler: Lucemon]] be any different? So he was using more power than usual for his last attack so as to completely obliterate them and make them suffer in agony, which was why [[spoiler: Kouichi dies at the first hit, and also why he could do all that 'take my spirit' talk and stuff before being absorbed as data]]. As for Kouji, well, this is the first time he's handling another spirit which didn't choose him while in human form. It's very possible that his spirit was the control for the others during unity evolution. So he'd obviously have a extremely hard time controlling a spirit which wasn't chosen for him. Also, it's the opposite of his attribute, which is light. So they'd obviously be conflicting, and it might have been too hard for a human body/spirit/whatever to bear. And another thing: I'm pretty sure that they'd only started to act up after his [[spoiler: death]]. So maybe all the time he was holding the spirits while in human form, [[spoiler: Kouichi]] might have been holding back his spirits power.

** Well, if you think about it, villains tend to use their most powerful attack to finish of the opponent, probably to make sure they don't come back alive. Why would [[spoiler: Lucemon]] be any different? So he was using more power than usual for his last attack so as to completely obliterate them and make them suffer in agony, which was why [[spoiler: Kouichi dies at the first hit, and also why he could do all that 'take my spirit' talk and stuff before being absorbed as data]]. As for Kouji, well, this is the first time he's handling another spirit which didn't choose him while in human form. It's very possible that his spirit was the control for the others during unity evolution. So he'd obviously have a extremely hard time controlling a spirit which wasn't chosen for him. Also, it's the opposite of his attribute, which is light. So they'd obviously be conflicting, and it might have been too hard for a human body/spirit/whatever to bear. And another thing: I'm pretty sure that they'd only started to act up after his [[spoiler: death]]. So maybe all the time he was holding the spirits while in human form, [[spoiler: Kouichi]] might have been holding back his spirits power.

** Not an excuse, but if you look at the armor forms, they start off as the digimon in armor, but as they go on they get further and futher away from the concept till you can't even see Veemon in Baromon. The series is good at losing concepts unfortunately.

** What bothers me about Kouji's father claiming that his ex-wife was dead is that it just seems like a plain bad idea. It may be easy to keep Kouji himself under the impression that his biological mother is dead, and it may seem easier to avoid all involvement with his ex-wife if it were a particularly rocky divorce (especially when he's remarried), but Kouji's father risks a lot by holding up the facade: all that has to happen is for someone (in this case, Kouichi's grandmother) to tell Kouichi that Kouji exists and it's not hard to believe Kouichi would try to find his brother, especially if he has a lot of information on his father's family. Kouji's father had no guarantee, in fact, that his ex-wife wouldn't someday try to instigate contact again or that Kouichi wouldn't somehow find them, and his decision to pretend his ex-wife is dead to Kouji just feels like taking a huge risk of eventually having to be involved with something from that side of the family anyway and running into an awkward situation in which he has to reveal to Kouji that he's been lying to him his entire life (and it's not like he can claim that his ex-wife isn't his ex-wife if Kouichi is present because it's hard to explain why Kouichi and Kouji have the same face). Kouji's father is very lucky that nobody revealed Kouji's existence to Kouichi earlier, that nobody from his ex-wife's family made no attempt to re-establish contact for whatever reason, and that the twins found out about what had been hidden from them when they were old enough to know how to handle their situations.