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** The knife was stuck in the cook's body the entire movie. Even when Col. Mustard tried to pull it out, he couldn't. Stuck good. No good reason for the candle stick. As for the rest of it, yes other stuff in the house can be lethal, but it's easier to kill someone with a gun than a pool cue. Just saying.
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*** "Now Molly quit yer crying and tell the police how he died!"
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*** Has less to do with the FBI and more to do with the makers of the film.
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** The FBI under Hoover wasn't exactly known for it's acceptance of homosexuals. So sadly no.
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* So, uh. Mr. Green couldn't be a kick-ass FBI agent and gay at the same time? Ahem.
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** If I'm not mistaken, [[spoiler:Mr. Boddy takes a shot at Mr. Green, or at least has the gun on him. If Mr. Boddy knew that Green was with the FBI, he almost certainly would have shot him, and Green was revealing himself anyway.]]
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* In the third ending, [[spoiler:Mr. Green shoots Mr. Boddy dead]]. Is this truly acceptable, considering that in the other two endings, the murderer is simply arrested? In all three situations, the murderer has the gun and makes it clear that no one else will get shot if they can simply leave. In fact, [[spoiler:Boddy killed considerably fewer people than Ms. Peacock did in her ending]]. It shouldn't have been because of the blackmail threat; if it was, [[spoiler:Prof. Plum should have gotten off for the murder he committed]].
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** They're all suspects so they might know better than to turn the body over and examine it for fear of leaving fingerprints or DNA.
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*** That doesn't explain why you repeatedly sabotage any possibility of pinning the crime on one of the others.
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*** They didn't want to pin down the gender of the anonymous voice, so they made it inconsistent.
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** This film is a rare example of plot holes not only being intentional but fully [[JustifiedTrope justified]]. If all the clues added up to one ending then there would be no point in there being two more as well. The film, if you scrutizine it carefully from start to finish, is a deliberate dead end of contradictory evidence, because only then can three different endings equally fit.

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** I was always bothered by the cop's presence myself. The only answer I can come up with (and it's rather lame) is that [[spoiler:Wadsworth, Miss Scarlet, or Mr. Boddy]] somehow arranged for him to be transferred temporarily from the Washington police force to one in New England so that he could be out driving that night to discover the motorist's car. [[spoiler:Wadsworth/Mr. Boddy]] is TheChessmaster and so could have pulled that off, but it still seems incredibly contrived and unbelievable. But then this is after all [[BellisariosMaxim just a zany]] [[MST3KMantra screwball comedy]]. On point two, the "they" would likely be Colonel Mustard and whichever woman she wasn't talking to depending on the ending, since they both knew her (Miss Scarlet quite well), and she was expecting to meet Miss Scarlet. [[spoiler:In the ending where Miss Scarlet did it, she obviously wasn't expecting her employer to kill her.]] Admittedly this makes more sense if she was talking to Mrs. White, since it would hardly seem the case (were she talking to Miss Scarlet) that Mrs. White would know every inch of her body. (Unless she'd caught Yvette with her husband and got an eyeful?) Third question is easiest to answer: [[spoiler:he wanted them to kill the informants so that he could keep blackmailing them while his own hands stayed clean. As he himself said "Now there is no evidence against me."]]

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** I was always bothered by the cop's presence myself. The only answer I can come up with (and it's rather lame) is that [[spoiler:Wadsworth, Miss Scarlet, or Mr. Boddy]] somehow arranged for him to be transferred temporarily from the Washington police force to one in New England so that he could be out driving that night to discover the motorist's car. [[spoiler:Wadsworth/Mr. Boddy]] is TheChessmaster and so could have pulled that off, but it still seems incredibly contrived and unbelievable. But then this is after all [[BellisariosMaxim just a zany]] [[MST3KMantra screwball comedy]]. On point two, the "they" would likely be Colonel Mustard and whichever woman she wasn't talking to depending on the ending, since they both knew her (Miss Scarlet quite well), and she was expecting to meet Miss Scarlet. [[spoiler:In the ending where Miss Scarlet did it, she obviously wasn't expecting her employer to kill her.]] Admittedly this makes more sense if she was talking to Mrs. White, since it would hardly seem the case (were she talking to Miss Scarlet) that Mrs. White would know every inch of her body. (Unless she'd caught Yvette with her husband and got an eyeful?) Third question is easiest to answer: [[spoiler:he wanted them to kill the informants so that he could keep blackmailing them while his own hands stayed clean. As he himself said "Now there is no evidence against me."]] "]]
** 1. The cop ''was'' invited. Wadsworth said that everyone had been invited there. He wore his uniform perhaps because he was uncertain what would happen and a uniform is really a cop's best (psychological) weapon. Really, who's to say? 2. "They" was the people who had seen the photo of Yvette as a prostitute, ''in flagrante delecto'' with Col. Mustard. 3. Whether there is a "real" ending depends on what version you watch, but in that ''particular'' ending Wadsworth obviously found it to his advantage not to be the actual killer of anyone, in case there was legal trouble.
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** [[CaptainObvious You know, the great thing about having three alternate endings is that, if you don't like one of them, you still have two others to choose from.]]
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*** Thank you for clearing up something else for me. I never knew what the layout was in terms of 3-D space. The staircase is at the center of the board: does that mean everything above it is the upper floor? But of course, as you've said, it must mean that we're seeing only ''one'' floor, and for some odd reason the murder couldn't have occurred above. Maybe there was a door locked from the other side at the top of the stairs or something.

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** If you don't know where or how it was done, claiming to know who did it would ring kind of hollow.

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** If you don't know where or how it was done, claiming to know who did it would ring kind of hollow.hollow.
** Yeah, knowing the particulars can help to nail the killer. You need evidence, and the more you know about the details of the murder, the likelier you are to find it.
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*** [[Main/AceAttorney Objection!]] How can you prove the pipe wasn't cleaned after the murder?
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*** It's revealed in the second and third endings that [[spoiler: the cook used to work for Mrs. Peacock]], so it's possible that the cook told Mrs. Peacock about the kitchen/study passage.
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** Another thing: Who was the person who told Yvette to "shut the door" minutes before she was killed? The voice that asks, "Did anyone recognize you?" is obviously female (which would mean that that particular voice belongs to [[spoiler: either Miss Scarlet, Mrs. Peacock, or Mrs. White]], depending on the ending), but the voice that says, "Shut the door," sounds male.
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* This may sound stupid, but in the beginning, why don't the guests know what [[Main/NastyParty the dinner party]] is all about? There are at least three instances where one of them (either Mrs. Peacock or Colonel Mustard) asks about what's going on, but it seems rather unnecessary since Wadsworth had written letters to them explaining why they had to come. Are the guests just playing dumb, is it for the audience's sake, or what? Also, why would Wadsworth give a letter to Mr. Boddy when they live in the same house?
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*** It's definitely naivete, which is even lampshaded by Boddy describing himself as a "big-hearted, thick-headed fellow". One story had him banning weapons from the mansion, and when one of the guests asks him how he's going to enforce it, he says that he's going to make them promise, scout's honor. The guests get around the ban by displaying the weapons in plain sight while giving ridiculous excuses for them (Miss Scarlet wears the Rope as a necklace, Colonel Mustard uses the Wrench to hold his monocle in place, etc.) Suffice it to say that Reginald Q. Boddy is TooDumbToLive.
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** It seems to be a combination of Mr. Boddy's childish naivity when it comes to his friends (one story has him thrilled to have the company of several of his friends, and then some time later wonders why they broke in through the window in the middle of the night) and them having just enough PetTheDog moments to be likable.
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**** That's what I always considered to be the answer too. However, there is one other point to consider, which could either support or undermine your case: [[spoiler:the scene in the study where all the guests are revealing their secrets. When the time comes for Mr. Green to be unmasked, he pre-empts TheReveal from Wadsworth and states his homosexuality. After this, we see a scene of Wadsworth staring bug-eyed at the letter from Mr. Boddy and then, it appears, ''shifting the relevant page underneath the stack, unread''.]] While in the first two endings this makes sense, because Wadsworth may not have known all the secrets (being both a butler and an FBI agent) and Mr. Green really was gay in then, in the third ending [[spoiler:you would think Mr. Boddy would know better than to shift the page aside unread, ''especially'' if he didn't actually know all the secrets firsthand nor had met his victims face-to-face. Nor does he seem the type to be that appalled or startled by such a secret.]] So either [[spoiler:Mr. Boddy was feigning his shock in order to fool his victims, knew about the secret, but had been fooled himself into believing Green was the genuine article]], or [[spoiler:he hadn't yet been told what the secret was by Green's informant (the Jehovah's Witness, since as Green's boss he would know him and Wadsworth didn't seem surprised by his appearance in any of the endings?), and the information was so shocking he moved the page aside unread, thus being fooled because he didn't bother to check the credentials.]] The latter hardly seems in character, unless he's just that arrogant, so it must have been the former...

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**** That's what I always considered to be the answer too. However, there is one other point to consider, which could either support or undermine your case: [[spoiler:the scene in the study where all the guests are revealing their secrets. When the time comes for Mr. Green to be unmasked, he pre-empts TheReveal from Wadsworth and states his homosexuality. After this, we see a scene of Wadsworth staring bug-eyed at the letter from Mr. Boddy and then, it appears, ''shifting the relevant page underneath the stack, unread''.]] While in the first two endings this makes sense, because Wadsworth may not have known all the secrets (being both a butler and an FBI agent) and Mr. Green really was gay in then, them, in the third ending [[spoiler:you would think Mr. Boddy would know better than to shift the page aside unread, ''especially'' if he didn't actually know all the secrets firsthand nor had met his victims face-to-face. Nor does he seem the type to be that appalled or startled by such a secret.]] So either [[spoiler:Mr. Boddy was feigning his shock in order to fool his victims, knew about the secret, but had been fooled himself into believing Green was the genuine article]], or [[spoiler:he hadn't yet been told what the secret was by Green's informant (the Jehovah's Witness, since as Green's boss he would know him and Wadsworth didn't seem surprised by his appearance in any of the endings?), and the information was so shocking he moved the page aside unread, thus being fooled because he didn't bother to check the credentials.]] The latter hardly seems in character, unless he's just that arrogant, so it must have been the former...
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** This also applies to Mrs. Peacock in the second and third endings--how did she know of the passage from the study so she could kill the cook? It is implied that Yvette knew the house and all the passages in it to inform Miss Scarlet (and she in turn learned it from [[spoiler:Wadsworth/Mr. Boddy]], no matter which ending), so she could have told Colonel Mustard. But Mrs. Peacock had no connection to the maid...

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** This also applies to Mrs. Peacock in the second and third endings--how did she know of the passage from the study so she could kill the cook? It is implied stated that Yvette knew the house and all the passages in it to inform Miss Scarlet (and she in turn learned it from [[spoiler:Wadsworth/Mr. Boddy]], no matter which ending), so she could have told Colonel Mustard.Mustard, considering their...[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean close history]]. But Mrs. Peacock had no connection to the maid...
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** This also applies to Mrs. Peacock in the second and third endings--how did she know of the passage from the study so she could kill the cook? It is implied that Yvette knew the house and all the passages in it to inform Miss Scarlet (and she in turn learned it from [[spoiler:Wadsworth/Mr. Boddy, no matter which ending), so she could have told Colonel Mustard. But Mrs. Peacock had no connection to the maid...

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** This also applies to Mrs. Peacock in the second and third endings--how did she know of the passage from the study so she could kill the cook? It is implied that Yvette knew the house and all the passages in it to inform Miss Scarlet (and she in turn learned it from [[spoiler:Wadsworth/Mr. Boddy, Boddy]], no matter which ending), so she could have told Colonel Mustard. But Mrs. Peacock had no connection to the maid...

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** I was always bothered by the cop's presence myself. The only answer I can come up with (and it's rather lame) is that [[spoiler:Wadsworth, Miss Scarlet, or Mr. Boddy]] somehow arranged for him to be transferred temporarily from the Washington police force to one in New England so that he could be out driving that night to discover the motorist's car. [[spoiler:Wadsworth/Mr. Boddy]] is TheChessmaster and so could have pulled that off, but it still seems incredibly contrived and unbelievable. But then this is after all [[BellisariosMaxim just a zany]] [[MST3KMantra screwball comedy]]. On point two, the "they" would likely be Colonel Mustard and whichever woman she wasn't talking to depending on the ending, since they both knew her (Miss Scarlet quite well), and she was expecting to meet Miss Scarlet. [[spoiler:In the ending where Miss Scarlet did it, she obviously wasn't expecting her employer to kill her.]] Admittedly this makes more sense if she was talking to Mrs. White, since it would hardly seem the case (were she talking to Miss Scarlet) that Mrs. White would know every inch of her body. (Unless she'd caught Yvette with her husband and got an eyeful?) Third question is easiest to answer: [[spoiler:he wanted them to kill the informants so that he could keep blackmailing them while his own hands stayed clean. As he himself said "Now there is no evidence against me."]]



** This also applies to Mrs. Peacock in the second and third endings--how did she know of the passage from the study so she could kill the cook? It is implied that Yvette knew the house and all the passages in it to inform Miss Scarlet (and she in turn learned it from [[spoiler:Wadsworth/Mr. Boddy, no matter which ending), so she could have told Colonel Mustard. But Mrs. Peacock had no connection to the maid...



***** Also, in all cases the murder of the cop makes no sense. When Wadsworth uses his key to lock the Cop in the library for the second time, he puts the key back in his pocket. However, later on in the film, the door to the Library is unlocked from the outside and the Cop is shortly after killed by either Miss Scarlet or Mrs. Peacock, depending on who the murderer was in the different endings. However, nobody stole Wadsworth's key before the guests split up into pairs to search Hill House again, Wadsworth never mentions that the key was stolen from his pocket to unlock the Library door when he takes the guests through the events of the evening step by step, and it is never said that Yvette had a key to unlock the rooms of the house. It would be impossible for the murderer to unlock and open the door to enter the Library.]]

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**** That's what I always considered to be the answer too. However, there is one other point to consider, which could either support or undermine your case: [[spoiler:the scene in the study where all the guests are revealing their secrets. When the time comes for Mr. Green to be unmasked, he pre-empts TheReveal from Wadsworth and states his homosexuality. After this, we see a scene of Wadsworth staring bug-eyed at the letter from Mr. Boddy and then, it appears, ''shifting the relevant page underneath the stack, unread''.]] While in the first two endings this makes sense, because Wadsworth may not have known all the secrets (being both a butler and an FBI agent) and Mr. Green really was gay in then, in the third ending [[spoiler:you would think Mr. Boddy would know better than to shift the page aside unread, ''especially'' if he didn't actually know all the secrets firsthand nor had met his victims face-to-face. Nor does he seem the type to be that appalled or startled by such a secret.]] So either [[spoiler:Mr. Boddy was feigning his shock in order to fool his victims, knew about the secret, but had been fooled himself into believing Green was the genuine article]], or [[spoiler:he hadn't yet been told what the secret was by Green's informant (the Jehovah's Witness, since as Green's boss he would know him and Wadsworth didn't seem surprised by his appearance in any of the endings?), and the information was so shocking he moved the page aside unread, thus being fooled because he didn't bother to check the credentials.]] The latter hardly seems in character, unless he's just that arrogant, so it must have been the former...
***** Also, in all cases the murder of the cop makes no sense. When [[spoiler:When Wadsworth uses his key to lock the Cop in the library for the second time, he puts the key back in his pocket. However, later on in the film, the door to the Library is unlocked from the outside and the Cop is shortly after killed by either Miss Scarlet or Mrs. Peacock, depending on who the murderer was in the different endings. However, nobody stole Wadsworth's key before the guests split up into pairs to search Hill House again, Wadsworth never mentions that the key was stolen from his pocket to unlock the Library door when he takes the guests through the events of the evening step by step, and it is never said that Yvette had a key to unlock the rooms of the house. It would be impossible for the murderer to unlock and open the door to enter the Library.]]
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** Because they always carefully explain to him how it was all a series of innocent misunderstandings and fluke accidents.
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!!The Books:
* Why the heck does Boddy keep inviting all these crazy folks back to his place when they're alternately trying to rob him blind, off each other, scheme with each other to off someone else, or scheme to kill Boddy ''and'' rob him blind? There's been 18 books in the first run of the series; that's enough for each of them to have done in Boddy an average of three times each!
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*** The answer to all of these pot holes: [[MemeticMutation/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi small bombs.]] In all seriousness, though, {{Unreliable Narrator}} might fit a bit better for some of them.

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Board game section finally created.


** [[Main/IWannaBeTheGuy Maybe he explodes when something touches him]]

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** [[Main/IWannaBeTheGuy Maybe he explodes when something touches him]]him.]]



** You'd allow a kindergartner to do that? :O

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** You'd allow a kindergartner to do that? :Othat?



**** Bingo. The original was a classic. This modern version is tacky now and is going to be much tackier later. Even if they did a modern version, it could have been done much better.

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**** Bingo. The original was a classic. This modern version is tacky now and is going to be much tackier later. Even if they did a modern version, it could have been done much better.



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** But we've no proof that Wadsworth would have let them leave after revealing himself -- well, at leat not Mr. Green. Remember, the FBI call in the third ending was for Green, but ''Wadsworth'' took the call. Even if the caller was careful in what he said, Wadsworth was obviously keen to Green's cover ('''Green:''' 'I was going to expose you." '''Wadsworth:''' "I know.") and could have shot Green on his way out, or more likely staged some other accident.

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** But we've no proof that Wadsworth would have let them leave after revealing himself -- well, at leat least not Mr. Green. Remember, the FBI call in the third ending was for Green, but ''Wadsworth'' took the call. Even if the caller was careful in what he said, Wadsworth was obviously keen to Green's cover ('''Green:''' 'I was going to expose you." '''Wadsworth:''' "I know.") and could have shot Green on his way out, or more likely staged some other accident.



* It bugs me that the article is on the movie and not the board game. Not that I don't mind that one is made, but I have no idea what tropes are in the board game version and yet I want the board game version made. :(
** Maybe you can make a request on the forum somewhere?
** The page was made before we started chronicling board games. C'est la vie.
** Maybe someone could split the page into 3 sections: the movie, the board game, and the VHS games.

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